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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: MU82 on February 28, 2021, 05:15:57 PM
You compared Jordan and Wojo. I simply pointed out that, head-to-head, Wojo has killed Jordan.

If I misread the intent of your post, management regrets the error.

82,  I think that MU is a player matchup issue for Butler.  Jordon does seem to be a better coach against the rest of the league. 

Even though both coaches body of work is mediocre I have a hunch Jordan would do better than Wojo with our talent. 

MU82

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 01, 2021, 06:30:12 PM
82,  I think that MU is a player matchup issue for Butler.  Jordon does seem to be a better coach against the rest of the league. 

Even though both coaches body of work is mediocre I have a hunch Jordan would do better than Wojo with our talent.

I understand what you're saying, and your hunch might be right ... but I'll stick with the fact that I know: Wojo has dominated the matchup the last 3 years.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wisblue

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 28, 2021, 01:04:02 PM
Villanova's defense is pretty "meh".  Can see them getting bounced on the first weekend.

When I mentioned that Villanova doesn't look that strong and might be headed  for an early NCAA exit, Dodds reminded me that Sunday's clunker was a result of Butler celebrating Senior Day.

That aside, they have looked pretty mediocre in several other games. As you say, their defense is not great. And, as others have said, their offense is heavily dependent on 3's. They don't have much depth, and could be in big trouble against one of those several Big 10 or Big 12 teams with good athletes who can challenge the threes.

The Sultan

Quote from: wisblue on March 02, 2021, 06:17:21 AM
When I mentioned that Villanova doesn't look that strong and might be headed  for an early NCAA exit, Dodds reminded me that Sunday's clunker was a result of Butler celebrating Senior Day.


LOL, yet another stat that only exists in Dodds' head.  Just like 3 point shooting in the Bradley Center.

But neither of those are as good as Murph's "you can 100% prevent sprained ankles" mantra.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

panda

Quote from: wisblue on March 02, 2021, 06:17:21 AM
When I mentioned that Villanova doesn't look that strong and might be headed  for an early NCAA exit, Dodds reminded me that Sunday's clunker was a result of Butler celebrating Senior Day.

That aside, they have looked pretty mediocre in several other games. As you say, their defense is not great. And, as others have said, their offense is heavily dependent on 3's. They don't have much depth, and could be in big trouble against one of those several Big 10 or Big 12 teams with good athletes who can challenge the threes.

How did that guy ever become some type of respected authority on Marquette basketball? Seriously

wadesworld

Nova better hope they aren't playing in Hinkle the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament. They've been awful there the last few years.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wisblue on March 02, 2021, 06:17:21 AM
When I mentioned that Villanova doesn't look that strong and might be headed  for an early NCAA exit, Dodds reminded me that Sunday's clunker was a result of Butler celebrating Senior Day.

That aside, they have looked pretty mediocre in several other games. As you say, their defense is not great. And, as others have said, their offense is heavily dependent on 3's. They don't have much depth, and could be in big trouble against one of those several Big 10 or Big 12 teams with good athletes who can challenge the threes.

And I'm not taking shots at Villanova.  They're still good enough to make a deep run this month but this isn't a team that's as good as the '16-'18 teams.  It happens as Jay had to refit the roster following a bunch of early departures and missing on Quinerly.  I'd much rather have their "problems" at the moment
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 02, 2021, 06:21:40 AM

LOL, yet another stat that only exists in Dodds' head.  Just like 3 point shooting in the Bradley Center.

But neither of those are as good as Murph's "you can 100% prevent sprained ankles" mantra.

Dodds needs to come up with some new excuses such as Villanova had "tired arms" that caused them to miss so many of their shots.
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tower912

Quote from: panda on March 02, 2021, 06:31:22 AM
How did that guy ever become some type of respected authority on Marquette basketball? Seriously

By attending games in the 60's, camps and the university in the 70's.   By buying time to do a weekend radio show about nothing but MU basketball in the 80's.    Putting out a monthly newsletter mailed out in the early 90's.    By being at the forefront of message boards in the late 90's and early 00's.       So, by hanging around and always loving MU basketball.     And looking for ways to talk about it.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

I have no doubts to his dedication for the program, but the dude has some whacky thoughts.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

panda

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 07:51:33 AM
By attending games in the 60's, camps and the university in the 70's.   By buying time to do a weekend radio show about nothing but MU basketball in the 80's.    Putting out a monthly newsletter mailed out in the early 90's.    By being at the forefront of message boards in the late 90's and early 00's.       So, by hanging around and always loving MU basketball.     And looking for ways to talk about it.

Where does being a condescending a**hole to anyone who disagrees with him fit in?

The Sultan

Quote from: panda on March 02, 2021, 07:58:59 AM
Where does being a condescending a**hole to anyone who disagrees with him fit in?


If it continues to get us quality posters here, like Muggsy, then I'm all for it.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

This board is full of condescending a$$holes.   As he says, his name is on the board.    And he runs it the way he sees fit.  His board, his rules, just like here.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 08:02:32 AM
This board is full of condescending a$$holes.   As he says, his name is on the board.    And he runs it the way he sees fit.  His board, his rules, just like here.

No one is really disputing this.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

And many here have wacky ideas.   I like going there because I like getting my new from more than one source.   I like to hear more than one version of a discussion.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

There are some really good posters there. I especially like to read Silver Warriors comments. I skip over Dodds' though. Just my opinion but I find the guy is simply insufferable. Glad Muggsy came here. 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

tower912

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 02, 2021, 08:14:25 AM
There are some really good posters there. I especially like to read Silver Warriors comments. I skip over Dodds' though. Just my opinion but I find the guy is simply insufferable. Glad Muggsy came here.
Sometimes he is.   Not as insufferable as a couple of guys who have had Badger boards over the years.   But Dodds is very protective of whomever the current coach is and MU hoops in general.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

panda

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 08:02:32 AM
This board is full of condescending a$$holes.   As he says, his name is on the board.    And he runs it the way he sees fit.  His board, his rules, just like here.

Seems like a completely reasonable and mature way of handling a position power !

tower912

No different than here.  Scoop mods run this board by their guidelines, he runs his board by his.
If you moderated a board, you would do it by your rules.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 08:21:10 AM
No different than here. 

It's actually quite a bit different.  He is much more heavy handed deleting posts and shutting topics down, especially when they don't generally agree with his line of thinking.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: panda on March 02, 2021, 08:18:52 AM
Seems like a completely reasonable and mature way of handling a position power !

Lol.  You must not have lived in America for the last 4 years.

panda

Quote from: BLM on March 02, 2021, 08:27:00 AM
Lol.  You must not have lived in America for the last 4 years.

Ha!

tower912

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 02, 2021, 08:26:03 AM
It's actually quite a bit different.  He is much more heavy handed deleting posts and shutting topics down, especially when they don't generally agree with his line of thinking.
To borrow from you, thank you for making my point.   The mods here shut down threads consistent with their rules.   He shuts down threads consistent with his.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 08:59:14 AM
To borrow from you, thank you for making my point.   The mods here shut down threads consistent with their rules.   He shuts down threads consistent with his.

Threads here are usually only shut down if the discussion veers into politics or personal attacks.  Dodds will shut down a thread if someone suggests Wojo's glass of ice water looks too cloudy.

You're right, though.  His board, his rules.  But there's a reason his board has far less traffic than this one.

Herman Cain

Quote from: tower912 on March 02, 2021, 07:51:33 AM
By attending games in the 60's, camps and the university in the 70's.   By buying time to do a weekend radio show about nothing but MU basketball in the 80's.    Putting out a monthly newsletter mailed out in the early 90's.    By being at the forefront of message boards in the late 90's and early 00's.       So, by hanging around and always loving MU basketball.     And looking for ways to talk about it.
Everything you outlined above is why Mr. Dodds has access to the Coaches and Team. There is some value in that.
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