Sam Dekker Causes Bruhaha

[brewcity77]

seriously??  maybe this was supposed to be teal?  by apology, i meant for their unprovoked attack/bombing of pearl harbor.

another unnecessary attempt to troll your base-totally uncalled for sully.

Americans did not attack or bomb Pearl Harbor. The Americans in the camps had nothing to do with that. What possible justification can you have for putting American citizens in camps?

EDIT: Unless your assertion is that Pearl Harbor was a false flag attack carried out by Japanese Americans to make it look like Japan attacked us in order to bring the US into WWII, in which case...wow is that off the rails.

[🏀]

We're just going to let these guys watch the game for free? Kinda ridiculous.

[reinko]

We're just going to let these guys watch the game for free? Kinda ridiculous.

Stupid Cubs fans, obvi

[buckchuckler]

This twitter fight is the most memorable moment of Dekker's NBA career.

Oh, wait. No, it's not...

Why couldn't you all just let this thread die after this?  It was all that needed to be said. 

[GGGG]

seriously??  maybe this was supposed to be teal?  by apology, i meant for their unprovoked attack/bombing of pearl harbor.

another unnecessary attempt to troll your base-totally uncalled for sully.   

But why would you even bring it up?  It was completely irrelevant to the conversation.

And no offense, I don't have to "troll my base" when it comes to your posts.  You say enough to do the work for me.

[GGGG]

if the parent is falsely claiming 1)to be the parent, 2)is a threat to the child, 3)is put into criminal proceedings, usually when they enter the country illegally, the children are put into protective custody of the HHS in temporary and safe shelters.

      these are the same rules/laws that have been in effect for the past ? years.  in other words, they haven't changed in the past 1 1/2 years.  if the adult has no other aggravating factors, i.e. previous illegal entry or another crime, they usually plead guilty, get time served.  if they want to return back to their home country, their children are returned to them and they leave together as a family unit to go back to their home country

The rules may have been in place, but the way they have been implemented has changed by this administration.  In the past, they separated children when their parents were found to have violated a law, but did not treat the crossing of the border illegally as a law that could cause separation.  The difference is that this administration is treating the border violation as a violation of the law and separating the families regardless of other factors.

So yes while I guess people can sleep better at night knowing that the written policy hasn't changed, the way it has been implemented certainly has changed.  And if you are comfortable with that, well, I guess I don't know what to say.

[jsglow]

The rules may have been in place, but the way they have been implemented has changed by this administration.  In the past, they separated children when their parents were found to have violated a law, but did not treat the crossing of the border illegally as a law that could cause separation.  The difference is that this administration is treating the border violation as a violation of the law and separating the families regardless of other factors.

So yes while I guess people can sleep better at night knowing that the written policy hasn't changed, the way it has been implemented certainly has changed.  And if you are comfortable with that, well, I guess I don't know what to say.

All 100% true which is why this entire issue is ripe for a reasonable resolution.  Let's hope entrenched politicians on all sides can come to a solution.  Is that possible?  Not holding my breath.

[4everwarriors]

Sorry to burst your bubble but life doesn't work that way. I have suffered every indignity possible and asked for no special privilege because of the color of my skin. That is how I overcame the circumstance I was born into. I worked hard to be respected and dealt with in the business world on a basis of trust and what I brought to the table . I am sick and tired of white people who patronize the less historically blessed cultures and want to create a welfare culture with no accountability and no skills development. Forget the equal outcome routine and  demand more basic skills of people.  You will be surprised to see how much people can do when the expectations levels are raised.

Here, here, hey?

[GGGG]

Here, here, hey?

Least shocking endorsement ever.

[4everwarriors]

You really have a problem with what Herman, a man of color, said?

[GGGG]

Youl really have a problem with what Herman, a man of color, said?

First, I have no idea who Herman is.  I think much of this is an act but really have no idea.

Second, it's irrelevant to my reading of his statement if he is a "man of color."

Third, I do agree with a portion of what he says.

Fourth, I disagree with a substantial portion of what he says.  Especially the "welfare culture" nonsense.

[MU82]

Sorry Hermie, I think you are having a different conversation. We're talking about whether or not some black people saying they are proud to be black is good reason for some white people they are proud to be white. I'm not sure what that has to do with welfare states.

Yep, classic goalpost-shifting.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

because i was not there, didn't live in that time, did not experience the emotions going on, etc etc i am not in any way form or fashion justifying or endorsing or supporting anything with regard to the internment of the japanese-americans.  i may be guilty of simplifying the reasons i believe that our governments/FDR issued executive order 9066-"safety" and what was "best for our country" at that time. this was a time of great panic.  it wasn't until much later that we did admit to our wrongs and between jimmy carter and ronald reagan, we tried to atone for that atrocity and paid reparations to any living camp survivor.   if you read my statement, leaving out my political leanings, you should be able to see that i was trying NOT to make any judgement of that point in time in our history.  i am not going to be baited in to this one tamu.  i think the actions of our government on the internment of the japanese-americans speaks for itself.   it is debatable if the japanese ever apologized for their atrocity upon us though, eyn'a?

So you don't know if it is wrong to incarcerate people solely based on their heritage, but you're pretty sure Japan needs to apologize to the U.S.?

JFC.

[naginiF]

All 100% true which is why this entire issue is ripe for a reasonable resolution.  Let's hope entrenched politicians on all sides can come to a solution.  Is that possible?  Not holding my breath.

99% of the time the bolded is true.  This is clearly part of the 1% - this situation was caused and is continued to happen because of no more than 5 people - DJT, Sessions, Kelly, Miller and i'm sure i've forgotten one.  They caused it, they can fix it.

[Jockey]

99% of the time the bolded is true.  This is clearly part of the 1% - this situation was caused and is continued to happen because of no more than 5 people - DJT, Sessions, Kelly, Miller and i'm sure i've forgotten one.  They caused it, they can fix it.

They would have to want to fix it. The only person on Scoop whose opinion matters to them is Brain Surgeon. They have calculated that this is worth votes.

[brewcity77]

99% of the time the bolded is true.  This is clearly part of the 1% - this situation was caused and is continued to happen because of no more than 5 people - DJT, Sessions, Kelly, Miller and i'm sure i've forgotten one.  They caused it, they can fix it.

Not only that, but 48/49 Democratic senators have signed on to Dianne Feinstein's bill opposing this. 0/51 Republicans have joined their support.

[Jay Bee]

Here, here, hey?

Amen. Herman speaking uncomfortable (for the nutzos) truth

[ZiggysFryBoy]

can we go back to making fun of DeKKKer, please?

[Babybluejeans]

Amen. Herman speaking uncomfortable (for the nutzos) truth

Ha. This is comically untrue. No one really disagrees with what Herman said. It's just what Herman said made no sense within the context of the dialogue.

This shows perfectly why conversations can't be had at all with some folks. You'll project a false narrative onto one point of view and then respond to that false narrative - usually only to shoehorn well-worn talking points into a conversation where they're irrelevant. That's not how dialogue (or even skilled sophistry) works, except for some people in America in 2018. Also, it's boring.

[Jockey]

Ha. This is comically untrue. No one really disagrees with what Herman said. It's just what Herman said made no sense within the context of the dialogue.

This shows perfectly why conversations can't be had at all with some folks. You'll project a false narrative onto one point of view and then respond to that false narrative - usually only to shoehorn well-worn talking points into a conversation where they're irrelevant. That's not how dialogue (or even skilled sophistry) works, except for some people in America in 2018. Also, it's boring.

Love this post.

Great rant - very concise.

[MU82]

Ha. This is comically untrue. No one really disagrees with what Herman said. It's just what Herman said made no sense within the context of the dialogue.

This shows perfectly why conversations can't be had at all with some folks. You'll project a false narrative onto one point of view and then respond to that false narrative - usually only to shoehorn well-worn talking points into a conversation where they're irrelevant. That's not how dialogue (or even skilled sophistry) works, except for some people in America in 2018. Also, it's boring.

Oh yeah?

Well, Leon's is the best frozen custard in Milwaukee.

Take that!

[Shaka Shart]

can we go back to making fun of DeKKKer, please?

I just love this nickname so much.

[MU82]

I just love this nickname so much.

Yessir, DeKKKer is the best nickname for any hated opponent (or former opponent) in a long, long time.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Yessir, DeKKKer is the best nickname for any hated opponent (or former opponent) in a long, long time.

Or best since The Grinch...

[MU82]

Or best since The Grinch...

Green pride?