Marquette to raise tuition to $41,290

[MU82]

Of course, every rising sophomore wants to get into Wild Hall, and they will blame the process if they don't get it.


This whole process has been a huge failure, but transferring is a terrible knee-jerk reaction.  Good luck to those students in finding decent housing at another school after all the current students have made their choices.

One night my sophomore year, the dorm food really sucked.

So I transferred to Snowflake U.

[mu_hilltopper]

MU resetting the process to ensure everyone getting a fair shake seems reasonable.

Frustrated, I get.  Annoyed, yeah.  Inconvenienced, sure.

Transferring or being "furious" over computer system failure(s)?    Don't let the door hit you in the ass.  MU doesn't need grads like that.

[Goose]

I find it very hard to believe that someone would transfer a system failure. If true, I hope they leave campus/town ASAP.

[MUBurrow]

Meh, I think we're being a little hard on the transfer talk. I doubt anyone would actually follow through with that - but it shows how along for the ride these kids feel. You're 18, just pulled the trigger on Marquette vs all of your other options, probably just filled out your FAFSA and are realizing how much debt you're taking on, and then once you're locked in, literally the first thing the school reaches out to you about gets totally screwed up? I'd be pissed and feel a little bait and switched too. Sure, don't transfer, but a bad look for Marquette to be sure.

[warriorchick]

Meh, I think we're being a little hard on the transfer talk. I doubt anyone would actually follow through with that - but it shows how along for the ride these kids feel. You're 18, just pulled the trigger on Marquette vs all of your other options, probably just filled out your FAFSA and are realizing how much debt you're taking on, and then once you're locked in, literally the first thing the school reaches out to you about gets totally screwed up? I'd be pissed and feel a little bait and switched too. Sure, don't transfer, but a bad look for Marquette to be sure.

No question that it was a major F-up on Marquette's side.

But threatening to transfer?  Those are the kids that 5 years from now are going to march into the HR department of their place of employment and threaten to quit because their 3% raise didn't come through on their check.  Mistakes happen.  If they get fixed and there's no serious permanent damage, it's all good.

[jutaw22mu]

Ehhh---it's a lottery.  It's not like it's based on anything legitimate.  They should just deal with it as is and move on to more important things.

[mu_hilltopper]

.. probably just filled out your FAFSA and are realizing how much debt you're taking on, and then once you're locked in, literally the first thing the school reaches out to you about gets totally screwed up?

The report said it was Freshmen and Sophs selecting for next year with a lottery .. unless that report wasn't accurate, it didn't say anything about incoming kids. 

(I didn't think new kids got any say on what dorm they were getting, beyond selecting their 1-2-3 preferences ..)

[warriorchick]

The report said it was Freshmen and Sophs selecting for next year with a lottery .. unless that report wasn't accurate, it didn't say anything about incoming kids. 

(I didn't think new kids got any say on what dorm they were getting, beyond selecting their 1-2-3 preferences ..)

That's exactly right.  The entire glow squad was at an accepted students' event a few weeks ago.  When the floor was opened up for questions, a mom's hand shot up.

"Can you tell me which side of the new dorm has the view of the lake?"

She was given the answer, but also reminded that freshman do not get to choose specific rooms.  I also had to practically nudge glow jr. and chick jr. to keep them from snickering.

[MUBurrow]

Oh okay, that's my mistake. Yeah, no matter how frustrating, the idea of threatening to transfer with a year already under your belt because you didn't get your dorm is pretty preposterous.

[Eldon]

If these kids want to transfer, they're in for a rude awakening.  Damn-near all schools have the same allocation mechanism and hence the same problem. 

[🏀]

Of course, every rising sophomore wants to get into Wild Hall, and they will blame the process if they don't get it.


This whole process has been a huge failure, but transferring is a terrible knee-jerk reaction.  Good luck to those students in finding decent housing at another school after all the current students have made their choices.

How are you defending the University?

[jsglow]

How are you defending the University?

Honestly, she's not.  Nobody thinks this is okay, including everyone I've talked with in the administration.  What's she's commenting on is individual over-reaction.

[#UnleashSean]

If these kids want to transfer, they're in for a rude awakening.  Damn-near all schools have the same allocation mechanism and hence the same problem.

Nope, the schools I went to do not have systems for 1999 for anything.

[forgetful]

I find it very hard to believe that someone would transfer a system failure. If true, I hope they leave campus/town ASAP.

The general response of students to any tiny inconvenience is to say "I'm transferring."  In general many think they should be catered to in every way imaginable, and when they are not catered to like royalty, think the "I'm transferring" line will gain them leverage.

It doesn't.  But there are little consequences to them regarding such a threat.

When they join the real world they will quickly find out that the "I'm quitting" threat, will be responded to with a don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. 

[🏀]

Honestly, she's not.  Nobody thinks this is okay, including everyone I've talked with in the administration.  What's she's commenting on is individual over-reaction.

'they will blame the process if they don't get it'

The process has failed three times. The process and university is to blame. Not anyone whining about it.

[warriorchick]

'they will blame the process if they don't get it'

The process has failed three times. The process and university is to blame. Not anyone whining about it.

Marquette effed up royally. Kids reacted inappropriately.  At least that is what WarriorDad claims.  I have not heard the threats of transferring from any other source.

[WarriorDad]

To clarify a few things.

Existing students, not incoming.

What has irked so many of them is the start, stop, start, stop, start, stop over a multi-week period.  Kids have to make sure they are ready to log in immediately so they don't lose their spot if they have a good lottery number. 

Where MU comes off looking bad is this should not be this hard.  These kids are used to Uber, picking an airline seat, picking a movie seat, it is the same concept.  There is an inventory of rooms in various Residence Halls. You claim your room, and the room is no longer available to anyone else.  Select your meal plan, done.   MU can't get this right, and for tech savvy kids they are asking what the hell is going on. I don't blame them.  MU isn't cheap.  One time, ok.  Two times, frustrating.  Three times, beyond acceptable.  Whether we care to admit it or not, perception is important and MU is supposed to be a leading university.  This cannot keep happening.  What else will IT department screw up for these kids?  They may be privileged or entitled, fill in the answer, but in their world you hit an app and a movie is on immediately.  MU has got to do better.

Whether kids transfer or not I cannot answer, I am only relaying what the frustrations are. Keep in mind some kids have to skip even classes to make sure they can log in at their appropriate time slot.

By the way, at least in my offspring's case, they want no part of Wild Hall.  They don't want to be with the Freshmen dominated dorm and are concerned that with too many amenities people might become introverted in their own rooms constantly.  They are shooting for Humphrey, Schroeder and others, but not Wild.

[dgies9156]

One night my sophomore year, the dorm food really sucked.

So I transferred to Snowflake U.

Every night my sophomore  year, the food sucked. But I stuck it out.

Maybe that's why I'm an ornery boomer with bad attitude.

I have to blame it on someone! Or something! Saga is as good as any!

[warriorchick]

Every night my sophomore  year, the food sucked. But I stuck it out.

Maybe that's why I'm an ornery boomer with bad attitude.

I have to blame it on someone! Or something! Saga is as good as any!

No 24-hour food service back then. 

[warriorchick]

And the cluster continues.......

https://www.thegoldenseagull.com/single-post/2018/04/10/Housing-website-accidentally-assigns-900-sophomores-to-live-in-Valley-Fields-dome

[ZiggysFryBoy]

And the cluster continues.......

https://www.thegoldenseagull.com/single-post/2018/04/10/Housing-website-accidentally-assigns-900-sophomores-to-live-in-Valley-Fields-dome

Living in the dome would be cool....until game day.

[spartan3186]

Back on Day 1 Jaybee asked what tuition was dating back a number of years. This is what tuition looks like per the Common Data Set dating back to 2001-2002.

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2001-2002 $18,400
2002-2003 ??
2003-2004 $20,350
2004-2005 $21,550 5.9%
2005-2006 $22,950 6.5%
2006-2007 $24,670 7.5%
2007-2008 $26,270 6.5%
2008-2009 $27,720 5.5%
2009-2010 $28,680 3.5%
2010-2011 $30,040 4.7%
2011-2012 $31,400 4.5%
2012-2013 $32,810 4.5%
2013-2014 $34,200 4.2%
2014-2015 $35,480 3.7%
2015-2016 $36,720 3.5%
2016-2017 $38,000 3.5%
2017-2018 $39,300 3.4%
2018-2019 $41,290 5.1%


[GGGG]

Back on Day 1 Jaybee asked what tuition was dating back a number of years. This is what tuition looks like per the Common Data Set dating back to 2001-2002.

Code: [Select]

2001-2002 $18,400
2002-2003 ??
2003-2004 $20,350
2004-2005 $21,550 5.9%
2005-2006 $22,950 6.5%
2006-2007 $24,670 7.5%
2007-2008 $26,270 6.5%
2008-2009 $27,720 5.5%
2009-2010 $28,680 3.5%
2010-2011 $30,040 4.7%
2011-2012 $31,400 4.5%
2012-2013 $32,810 4.5%
2013-2014 $34,200 4.2%
2014-2015 $35,480 3.7%
2015-2016 $36,720 3.5%
2016-2017 $38,000 3.5%
2017-2018 $39,300 3.4%
2018-2019 $41,290 5.1%


What's more important is what the average student actually pays out of pocket.  There's a ton of discounting going on, not just at MU, but at almost every private schools (and many publics too.)

[Coleman]

I remember picking housing for my freshman year (Fall of 2004), and you were asked to rank your top 4 choices. MU screwed that up so tons of people (myself included) ended up with a choice that they didn't even include in their top 4. It was pretty infuriating at the time, but it all worked out. I had a great year.

MU does need to get their ducks in a row for the amount they charge, but students need to learn to roll with it. It is housing for 9 months. It really isn't that big of a deal.

[🏀]

I remember picking housing for my freshman year (Fall of 2004), and you were asked to rank your top 4 choices. MU screwed that up so tons of people (myself included) ended up with a choice that they didn't even include in their top 4. It was pretty infuriating at the time, but it all worked out. I had a great year.

MU does need to get their ducks in a row for the amount they charge, but students need to learn to roll with it. It is housing for 9 months. It really isn't that big of a deal.

Exact same timeframe, got put in a spot I didn't list. Worked out though.