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MU82

Wait ... we're not the Warriors any more?

Jeesh - miss a little, miss a lot.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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DavidBoone2inchesTaller

Quote from: Jockey on June 12, 2017, 11:37:18 PM
Wah, wah, wah.

It is about time MU fans man up on this subject.

I loved the Warrior nickname and still call them that ofttimes. But it ain't coming back, so quit whining.

And the answer is very simple to find if you'd stop crying long enough to do so.

The thing about Warriors, Jockey...they never quit.


DavidBoone2InchesTaller was a Senior Message Board Poster at MarquetteHoops.com for 17 yrs.. He made over 10,000 posts with an accuracy rate of 99.9%. Incredibly this means since 2006 he made less than 3 inaccurate statements, earning him the nickname "Top Gun Poster" among his peers.

mileskishnish72

Check the front of today's NYT magazine section. It shows an American Indian (Native American) HS team - across their chests in script is "Warriors." Are they sticking it to the tribe's elders by perpetuating a stereotype of warmongering savages? Think how offended they must be.
Or are they thumbing their noses as the PC European Americans that decide based on their own moral code what is best for everyone?

GoldenWarrior11

Holy Cross is now getting rid of the Crusaders imagery (not nickname).  Pretty crazy they were almost in the Big East back in the day.

GGGG

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 08, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Check the front of today's NYT magazine section. It shows an American Indian (Native American) HS team - across their chests in script is "Warriors." Are they sticking it to the tribe's elders by perpetuating a stereotype of warmongering savages? Think how offended they must be.
Or are they thumbing their noses as the PC European Americans that decide based on their own moral code what is best for everyone?


Or maybe they use respectful imagery that doesn't stereotype?

WarriorDad

Quote from: #bansultan on April 08, 2018, 12:31:15 PM

Or maybe they use respectful imagery that doesn't stereotype?

The imagery we used the last 20 years was respectful and designed by a Native American.

People can judge for themselves, here is the link to article with many pictures of the uniforms and warmups.  Scroll down a bit in the article to see variety. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/magazine/arlee-warriors-montana-basketball-flathead-indian-reservation.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmagazine
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— Plato

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 08, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Check the front of today's NYT magazine section. It shows an American Indian (Native American) HS team - across their chests in script is "Warriors." Are they sticking it to the tribe's elders by perpetuating a stereotype of warmongering savages? Think how offended they must be.
Or are they thumbing their noses as the PC European Americans that decide based on their own moral code what is best for everyone?

It's different when a school that serves primarily native students uses the mascot than when a school that serves primarily white students. That's why the NCAA granted waivers to certain schools like UNC Pembroke
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Pakuni

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 08, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Check the front of today's NYT magazine section. It shows an American Indian (Native American) HS team - across their chests in script is "Warriors." Are they sticking it to the tribe's elders by perpetuating a stereotype of warmongering savages? Think how offended they must be.
Or are they thumbing their noses as the PC European Americans that decide based on their own moral code what is best for everyone?

This argument has echoes of being mad that some hip-hop artists can use a certain word that you as a "European American" cannot.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 08, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Check the front of today's NYT magazine section. It shows an American Indian (Native American) HS team - across their chests in script is "Warriors." Are they sticking it to the tribe's elders by perpetuating a stereotype of warmongering savages? Think how offended they must be.
Or are they thumbing their noses as the PC European Americans that decide based on their own moral code what is best for everyone?

Maybe it's because they are actually Native Americans.

Had the tribes the Jesuits work with not raised the issue perhaps MU remains the Warriors.  The request came from actual Native Americans.

What is "PC run amok" for a certain segment of America: the inability to use racial, sexist and bigoted slurs in public anymore.
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brewcity77

Were people this pissed off for decades when we changed the nickname from Hilltoppers?

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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 08, 2018, 02:49:35 PM
Were people this pissed off for decades when we changed the nickname from Hilltoppers?

No they were too excited by the Native American theme sweeping through Milwaukee after the Braves came to town. 

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 08, 2018, 02:49:35 PM
Were people this pissed off for decades when we changed the nickname from Hilltoppers?

Hilltoppers was offensive to students from Illinois. An easy and popular decision to change the nickname.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 08, 2018, 03:01:27 PM
Hilltoppers was offensive to students from Illinois. An easy and popular decision to change the nickname.

I think Hilltoppers is a great nickname

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2018, 03:11:45 PM
I think Hilltoppers is a great nickname

It was a joke.  Some Wisconsinites refer to people from Illinois as "flat landers."

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on April 08, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
It was a joke.  Some Wisconsinites refer to people from Illinois as "flat landers."

I know it was a joke. I was just saying I like the nickname Hilltoppers in general. I can only think of one college who rocks the Hilltoppers nickname.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2018, 03:28:08 PM
I know it was a joke. I was just saying I like the nickname Hilltoppers in general. I can only think of one college who rocks the Hilltoppers nickname.

I like it too.  Would definitely support that nickname if MU went back to it.

GoldenWarrior11

The Cleveland Indians, under order from MLB, are currently removing Chief Wahoo from all uniforms and stadium signs by 2019.  The Braves got rid of Chief Noc-A-Homa in the 80's.  Illinois got rid of Illiniwek in 2007.  San Diego State have recently been in the news for an attempt to remove their Aztec imagery. 

No one wants to complain or argue against Central Michigan or Florida State since they were granted "exceptions" by the NCAA. 

Pakuni

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on April 08, 2018, 04:04:53 PM
No one wants to complain or argue against Central Michigan or Florida State since they were granted "exceptions" by the NCAA.

Both schools have explicit permission from the respective tribal leadership (Chippewa, Seminole) to use the nickname.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on April 08, 2018, 04:15:26 PM
Both schools have explicit permission from the respective tribal leadership (Chippewa, Seminole) to use the nickname.


Though Florida State only has permission from some of the Seminole nations, not all of them.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: WarriorDad on April 08, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
The imagery we used the last 20 years was respectful and designed by a Native American.

People can judge for themselves, here is the link to article with many pictures of the uniforms and warmups.  Scroll down a bit in the article to see variety. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/magazine/arlee-warriors-montana-basketball-flathead-indian-reservation.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmagazine

And you're still trying to pretend you aren't Chicos?

Hysterical how many of your accounts have posted in this thread.

4everwarriors

Interestin' how dis chit all hit da fan wit Sam as AD, aina?
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burger

I guess you guys were too young to remember the "defacto" rain dance and mascot we had back in the 70's and 80's.....

If the university for whatever reason had not gone there for whatever reason.....I think we could have kept the name....

When some dumbA$$ attached the Indian mascot to the name and did a jig at center court every game.....Hard to argue the ambiguity of the "name".....We were certainly at least politically incorrect.....

PS......Who gives a rat's A$$ about being politically correct.....

4everwarriors

Da first Warrior wuz 'bout as appropriate at a basketball game as fartin' in church, hey?
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