Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wanted Young more than Gill personally. Sic em Wojo!

[muballbuster]

He's not tough enough to play in the Big East.

Last Big Ten NCAA Champion was Michigan State 2000 before that Michigan 1989

1975   UCLA   John Wooden   92–85   Kentucky   Joe B. Hall   
1976   Indiana    Bob Knight   86–68   Michigan   Johnny Orr   
1977   Marquette    Al McGuire   67–59   North Carolina   Dean Smith   
1978   Kentucky   Joe B. Hall   94–88   Duke   Bill Foster   
1979   Michigan State   Jud Heathcote   75–64   Indiana State   
1980   Louisville   Denny Crum   59–54   UCLA[a]   Larry Brown   Market Square Arena   Indianapolis, Indiana   [60]
1981   Indiana   Bob Knight   63–50   North Carolina   Dean Smith   Spectrum   Philadelphia, Pennsylvania   [61]
1982   North Carolina   Dean Smith   63–62   Georgetown   John Thompson   Louisiana Superdome   New Orleans, Louisiana   [62]
1983   North Carolina State   Jim Valvano   54–52   Houston   Guy Lewis   University Arena   Albuquerque, New Mexico   [63]
1984   Georgetown   John Thompson   84–75   Houston   Guy Lewis   Kingdome   Seattle, Washington   [64]
1985   Villanova   Rollie Massimino   66–64   Georgetown   John Thompson   Rupp Arena   Lexington, Kentucky   [65]
1986   Louisville   Denny Crum   72–69   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   Reunion Arena   Dallas, Texas   [66]
1987   Indiana   Bob Knight   74–73   Syracuse   Jim Boeheim   Louisiana Superdome   New Orleans, Louisiana   [67]
1988   Kansas   Larry Brown   83–79   Oklahoma   Billy Tubbs   Kemper Arena   Kansas City, Missouri   [68]
1989   Michigan   Steve Fisher   80–79*   Seton Hall   P. J. Carlesimo   Kingdome   Seattle, Washington   [69]
1990   UNLV   Jerry Tarkanian   103–73   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   McNichols Sports Arena   Denver, Colorado   [70]
1991   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   72–65   Kansas   Roy Williams   Hoosier Dome   Indianapolis, Indiana   [71]
1992   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   71–51   Michigan[a]   Steve Fisher   Metrodome   Minneapolis, Minnesota   [72]
1993   North Carolina   Dean Smith   77–71   Michigan[a]   Steve Fisher   Louisiana Superdome   New Orleans, Louisiana   [73]
1994   Arkansas   Nolan Richardson   76–72   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   Charlotte Coliseum   Charlotte, North Carolina   [74]
1995   UCLA   Jim Harrick   89–78   Arkansas   Nolan Richardson   Kingdome   Seattle, Washington   [75]
1996   Kentucky   Rick Pitino   76–67   Syracuse   Jim Boeheim   Continental Airlines Arena   East Rutherford, New Jersey   [76]
1997   Arizona   Lute Olson   84–79*   Kentucky   Rick Pitino   RCA Dome   Indianapolis, Indiana   [77]
1998   Kentucky   Tubby Smith   78–69   Utah   Rick Majerus   Alamodome   San Antonio, Texas   [78]
1999   Connecticut   Jim Calhoun   77–74   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   Tropicana Field   St. Petersburg, Florida   [79]
2000   Michigan State   Tom Izzo   89–76   Florida   Billy Donovan   RCA Dome   Indianapolis, Indiana   [80]
2001   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   82–72   Arizona   Lute Olson   Metrodome   Minneapolis, Minnesota   [81]
2002   Maryland   Gary Williams   64–52   Indiana   Mike Davis   Georgia Dome   Atlanta, Georgia   [82]
2003   Syracuse   Jim Boeheim   81–78   Kansas   Roy Williams   Louisiana Superdome   New Orleans, Louisiana   [83]
2004   Connecticut   Jim Calhoun   82–73   Georgia Tech   Paul Hewitt   Alamodome   San Antonio, Texas   [84]
2005   North Carolina   Roy Williams   75–70   Illinois   Bruce Weber   Edward Jones Dome   St. Louis, Missouri   [85]
2006   Florida   Billy Donovan   73–57   UCLA   Ben Howland   RCA Dome   Indianapolis, Indiana   [86]
2007   Florida   Billy Donovan   84–75   Ohio State   Thad Matta   Georgia Dome   Atlanta, Georgia   [87]
2008   Kansas   Bill Self   75–68*   Memphis[a]   John Calipari   Alamodome   San Antonio, Texas   [88]
2009   North Carolina   Roy Williams   89–72   Michigan State   Tom Izzo   Ford Field   Detroit, Michigan   [89]
2010   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   61–59   Butler   Brad Stevens   Lucas Oil Stadium   Indianapolis, Indiana   [90]
2011   Connecticut   Jim Calhoun   53–41   Butler   Brad Stevens   Reliant Stadium   Houston, Texas   [91]
2012   Kentucky   John Calipari   67–59   Kansas   Bill Self
2013   Louisville   Rick Pitino   82–76   Michigan   John Beilein   Georgia Dome   Atlanta, Georgia   [93]
2014   Connecticut   Kevin Ollie   60–54   Kentucky   John Calipari   AT&T Stadium   Arlington, Texas   [94]
2015   Duke   Mike Krzyzewski   68–63   Wisconsin   Bo Ryan   Lucas Oil Stadium   Indianapolis, Indiana   [95]
2016   Villanova   Jay Wright   77–74   North Carolina   Roy Williams   NRG Stadium   Houston, Texas   

[Lennys Tap]

You watched '15-'16 Duquesne often?

Never. Nor (over the years) did I ever watch scores of high schoolers, Jucos or transfers who didn't come to Marquette about whom I could confidently say the same.

Gill is an experienced 4. I deduced that from the fact that he's 6'8", 235, plays the 4 and is a graduate transfer. He can also shoot, score and rebound. I figured that out by looking at the numbers. And I DID watch MU in 15-16 often. Every game in fact. So enough to know that right now we have a gaping hole at Gill's position. Even if he's worse than advertised it's a big loss for us.

[Herman Cain]

Never. Nor (over the years) did I ever watch scores of high schoolers, Jucos or transfers who didn't come to Marquette about whom I could confidently say the same.

Gill is an experienced 4. I deduced that from the fact that he's 6'8", 235, plays the 4 and is a graduate transfer. He can also shoot, score and rebound. I figured that out by looking at the numbers. And I DID watch MU in 15-16 often. Every game in fact. So enough to know that right now we have a gaping hole at Gill's position. Even if he's worse than advertised it's a big loss for us.

I agree with this analysis.

[jsglow]

Wanted Young more than Gill personally. Sic em Wojo!

That's also what BD reported Wojo wanted.  Not surprised Gill wouldn't wait.  Good luck to him.

[Marcus92]

Gill is an experienced 4. I deduced that from the fact that he's 6'8", 235, plays the 4 and is a graduate transfer. He can also shoot, score and rebound. I figured that out by looking at the numbers. And I DID watch MU in 15-16 often. Every game in fact. So enough to know that right now we have a gaping hole at Gill's position. Even if he's worse than advertised it's a big loss for us.

This is a very humorous and entertaining post. I deduced that from the fact that I laughed out loud when reading it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Not pretty. I stopped updating because there are only 3 guys who could make a significant impact at the high major level. There are another 11 who I think could be role players at the high major level.

In order:

Canyon Barry, SF from Charleston
Anthony Livingston, PF from Arkansas State
LG Gill, SF from Duquesne
Junior Lomomba, SG from Providence
Kelvin Amayo, SF from Iona
Shy McClelland, PG from South Dakota
LJ Rose, PG from Houston
Chad Rykhoek, C from Baylor
Christian Jones, PF from St. John's
Christian Kessee, PG from Coppin State
Uche Ofoegbu SF from San Francisco
Trevon Seymore, SG from Coppin State
Lew Evans, PF from Utah State
Norville Carey, SF from Southern Miss

The most interesting name on the list is Chad Rykhoek. He was a top 150 player from the class of 2012. Huge kid, 6"11 260. Hasn't played a second of college basketball due to multiple injuries. Supposedly is healthy now. No idea how good he is now.

If we missed on Gill, I doubt we would go after Livingston (punched a police officer). Christian Jones would be perfect but we can't touch him. Lew Evans has good size and rebounding but came off the bench for Utah State. Norville Carey also has size and rebounding but he started for a garbage southern miss team and is coming off a major injury.

Picked a bad moment to update this. A flurry of grad transfer commitments.

#1 Canyon Barry to Florida
#3 LG Gill to Maryland
#4 Junior Lomomba to Western Kentucky
#13 Lew Evans to Tennessee

So that leaves 10 grad transfers who IMHO are good enough to play any sort of minutes for a high major team. For players who could potentially play the post its:

Anthony Livingston 6"8 230 lb PF from Arkansas State
(Punch a cop in the face)
Chad Rykhoek 6"11 230 lb C from Baylor
(Hasn't played a minute of college ball due to multiple injuries)
Christian Jones 6"7 230 lb PF from St. John's
(I believe the BEast doesn't allow for intra conference transfers)
Norville Carey 6"7 230 lb SF from Southern Miss
(coming of a major injury and played for a sup 300 KenPom team)

Pretty sure we are out of the grad transfer game at this point.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Can't, or won't? Aren't the normal rules for in-conference transfers out the window for grad transfers? I remember more than a couple in the Big 10 in recent years, and am pretty sure there were at least two (including Adam Smith) in the ACC last year. I thought grad transfers could enroll and become eligible at any school that fit the requirements due to having their degree.

It may not typically happen in the Big East, but I don't think it can be prevented.

I've asked this question before. Other conferences allow for it. Michigan alone has had a player grad transfer to another B1G school each of the last two years (Must realize that the grass is greener everywhere outside of Ann Arbor eh Keefe?)

We've been able to establish that before the split, the old Big East's rule were different from the ACC and B1G and definitively did NOT allow grad transfers to transfer intraconference. What no one has been able to answer is if the rules have since changed, since the only document we could find on the subject was dated 2005.

If there was a way to get Jones on our squad, I'd be all for it. Wouldn't give us much, but its another big body that can rebound.

[Golden Avalanche]

Never. Nor (over the years) did I ever watch scores of high schoolers, Jucos or transfers who didn't come to Marquette about whom I could confidently say the same.

Gill is an experienced 4. I deduced that from the fact that he's 6'8", 235, plays the 4 and is a graduate transfer. He can also shoot, score and rebound. I figured that out by looking at the numbers. And I DID watch MU in 15-16 often. Every game in fact. So enough to know that right now we have a gaping hole at Gill's position. Even if he's worse than advertised it's a big loss for us.

Wrong player, guy. Gill is a 6'6, 210 career 39% shooter (not that good at the FT line either) who you would remark "really isn't all that bigger or a better shooter then Anim" after his first few games if he committed to Marquette. 

Watch some video of the Dukes. You'll see.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Wrong player, guy. Gill is a 6'6, 210 career 39% shooter (not that good at the FT line either) who you would remark "really isn't all that bigger or a better shooter then Anim" after his first few games if he committed to Marquette. 

Watch some video of the Dukes. You'll see.

This I disagree with wholeheartedly. Gill would have been a contributor for us, no doubt.

[jsglow]

Let's not badmouth a young man because he made another choice.  Maryland is a good fit for him.  I hope he does well.  Sure he would have helped. 

[HoopsterBC]

Gill saw what I saw, a pretty bad team with lots of playing time if Trimble does not comeback.  Maryland offers a lot, it has been said they have one of the top fan
base and fan base experiences in the country.  Close to home, no brainer.   Also, you can not compare weather and campus.  Now talking about Providence, I can not
see how Young would not see that there is a great opportunity at MU, to play and play on a good team.  I do not expect Bentl or Dunn to be back, there going to have
issues next year at Providence.  MU can win with small ball if they play tougher.  Johnson, Reinhardt and Fisher are seniors,  Rowsey and Wilson juniors but will be in there 4th year at a major college, lot to be excited about with or without Young.  Gill was just going to be a Lockett type player, complimentary.  Maybe at Maryland he
will be more.

[Lennys Tap]

Wrong player, guy. Gill is a 6'6, 210 career 39% shooter (not that good at the FT line either) who you would remark "really isn't all that bigger or a better shooter then Anim" after his first few games if he committed to Marquette. 

Watch some video of the Dukes. You'll see.

I was wrong on his height. So were you. He's 6'7" according to ESPN. You're right about his weight.

Your other stats are Chiconian. Factually true but misleading and meaningless as a projection for next year.. Let's look at his last (3rd) year, a more likely precursor to year #4. 10.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 43.9% fg%, 34.4% 3pt fg%, 73.7 ft%. Saying that I would remark he "he really isn't all that bigger or a better shooter than Anim" after his first few games at MU isn't even a clever cheap shot - just a stupid one, guy.

[martyconlonontherun]

Gill saw what I saw, a pretty bad team with lots of playing time if Trimble does not comeback.  Maryland offers a lot, it has been said they have one of the top fan
base and fan base experiences in the country.  Close to home, no brainer.   Also, you can not compare weather and campus.  Now talking about Providence, I can not
see how Young would not see that there is a great opportunity at MU, to play and play on a good team.  I do not expect Bentl or Dunn to be back, there going to have
issues next year at Providence.  MU can win with small ball if they play tougher.  Johnson, Reinhardt and Fisher are seniors,  Rowsey and Wilson juniors but will be in there 4th year at a major college, lot to be excited about with or without Young.  Gill was just going to be a Lockett type player, complimentary.  Maybe at Maryland he
will be more.

I get Providence not being great but I don't see how MU would be clearly a better team. We have sucked the last few years and lose our best player. I don't think we can put MU ahead of Providence quite yet.

[HoopsterBC]

I get Providence not being great but I don't see how MU would be clearly a better team. We have sucked the last few years and lose our best player. I don't think we can put MU ahead of Providence quite yet.

Take Bentl and Dunn off there team and what do they have back?  I am not saying MU will be that much better, but on paper it looks better.  Yes, you lose Henry, but
pick up a bunch of shooters, plus have some experience. 

[Golden Avalanche]

I was wrong on his height. So were you. He's 6'7" according to ESPN. You're right about his weight.

Your other stats are Chiconian. Factually true but misleading and meaningless as a projection for next year.. Let's look at his last (3rd) year, a more likely precursor to year #4. 10.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 43.9% fg%, 34.4% 3pt fg%, 73.7 ft%. Saying that I would remark he "he really isn't all that bigger or a better shooter than Anim" after his first few games at MU isn't even a clever cheap shot - just a stupid one, guy.

Same tape measure that had Dominic James at 6'0'' and Jae Crowder at 6'7'' and Davante Gardner at 6'8''. Watch Duquesne video, you'll see Gill at 6'6'' since I know you've been watching the game most of your 70 years.

It wasn't intended as a clever cheap shot. It was intended to show that people on this board who don't ever see these players play at their previous schools are most often surprised when they resemble that which is already on the roster.

[martyconlonontherun]

Take Bentl and Dunn off there team and what do they have back?  I am not saying MU will be that much better, but on paper it looks better.  Yes, you lose Henry, but
pick up a bunch of shooters, plus have some experience.

You seemed a little extreme where you say MU is a "great opportunity" and how Young doesn't see it. Your quote below makes it sound like you wouldn't even consider Providence over MU because we are going to be better next year. Yeah, MU maaaayyyyy be a little better on paper, but Providence has been more relevant lately. Also, it's not like MU is an elite 8 team. They are a fridge tourney team at this point and that isn't enough to sway other factors.

I'm being nitpicky but it seems like we are second guessing a recruits options through blue and gold glasses.

Now talking about Providence, I can not see how Young would not see that there is a great opportunity at MU, to play and play on a good team.  I do not expect Bentl or Dunn to be back, there going to have issues next year at Providence.  MU can win with small ball if they play tougher.  Johnson, Reinhardt and Fisher are seniors,  Rowsey and Wilson juniors but will be in there 4th year at a major college, lot to be excited about with or without Young.

[Golden Avalanche]

Let's not badmouth a young man because he made another choice.  Maryland is a good fit for him.  I hope he does well.  Sure he would have helped.

Directed at me, you couldn't be wider of the mark. Would have been a fine addition. However, I've laughed the last six weeks as people here on Scoop somehow have the vision of Gill as a Rico Gathers-type coming in as a 6'8'' hard body filling up the 4 spot banging for double digit rebounds when he's nowhere near that player.

Putting Gill's game into the correct context (height, weight, stats) is nowhere near badmouthing him. And it's silly to suggest that.

[HoopsterBC]

You seemed a little extreme where you say MU is a "great opportunity" and how Young doesn't see it. Your quote below makes it sound like you wouldn't even consider Providence over MU because we are going to be better next year. Yeah, MU maaaayyyyy be a little better on paper, but Providence has been more relevant lately. Also, it's not like MU is an elite 8 team. They are a fridge tourney team at this point and that isn't enough to sway other factors.

I'm being nitpicky but it seems like we are second guessing a recruits options through blue and gold glasses.

OK, there is a great opportunity at Providence as well.  Since he is taking another trip there, his second, I would not be surprised he goes there. 

[TedBaxter]

Wasn't Young's unofficial visit to PC mainly because he was playing in the Providence area for Orangeville?

[Lennys Tap]

Same tape measure that had Dominic James at 6'0'' and Jae Crowder at 6'7'' and Davante Gardner at 6'8''. Watch Duquesne video, you'll see Gill at 6'6'' since I know you've been watching the game most of your 70 years.

It wasn't intended as a clever cheap shot. It was intended to show that people on this board who don't ever see these players play at their previous schools are most often surprised when they resemble that which is already on the roster.

Same tape measure that has Anim at 6'5", 190. So whatever their true heights/weights Gill is 2" taller and 20 lbs heavier. He also averaged 10 more points per game and 6.1 more rebounds per game than Anim.

I never said he would have been a savior, but as of now we don't have a 4 for next year. A 5th year senior who shoots 3s at the same % as Duane, rebounds like Luke, is a double digit scorer and makes 73,7% of his free throws would be IMO an important addition. If he resembles but is a better version of Sacar or Sandy I'd be OK with that. Any upgrade at that position would be welcomed - by me, anyway.

[NotAnAlum]

OK, there is a great opportunity at Providence as well.  Since he is taking another trip there, his second, I would not be surprised he goes there.

I'm honestly getting a bad feeling about this.  The Dad seems more involved in Kalif's recruitment.  Its telling that only Mom accompanied him here.  I think the Dad gets committed to supporting a Black head coach who admittedly has a lot to offer and Young signs with the Friars.
Should this occur while you certainly can't fault Wojo's recruiting in general I think this episode including the departure of Wally leaving us desperate next season for some height at the 4 seems to be to indicate some recruiting arrogance on Wojo's part.  In that way its similar to the recruiting of the top Grad Transfers last year.  The "I should be able to get anybody I set my sights on" arrogance.  This may have its foundation in Wojo's time at Duke where they did get just about anybody they made a priority.  While its good to be confident there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance.  I hope that fine line doesn't relegate MU to another season with no post season.

[muhoops1]

I'm honestly getting a bad feeling about this.  The Dad seems more involved in Kalif's recruitment.  Its telling that only Mom accompanied him here.  I think the Dad gets committed to supporting a Black head coach who admittedly has a lot to offer and Young signs with the Friars.
Should this occur while you certainly can't fault Wojo's recruiting in general I think this episode including the departure of Wally leaving us desperate next season for some height at the 4 seems to be to indicate some recruiting arrogance on Wojo's part.  In that way its similar to the recruiting of the top Grad Transfers last year.  The "I should be able to get anybody I set my sights on" arrogance.  This may have its foundation in Wojo's time at Duke where they did get just about anybody they made a priority.  While its good to be confident there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance.  I hope that fine line doesn't relegate MU to another season with no post season.

Or there is simply more to the Wally/Ellenson Family situation.  If Wojo created a spot for someone else and didn't fill it, that would appear to be a 'fail'.  If he simply parted ways with a player for other reasons, well then that is a managerial decision.

[bilsu]

It is basically going to come down to is whether he likes Wojo or Cooly better. Same conference, both private Catholic schools and I cannot imagine there is much difference in weather.

[MerrittsMustache]

Or there is simply more to the Wally/Ellenson Family situation.  If Wojo created a spot for someone else and didn't fill it, that would appear to be a 'fail'.  If he simply parted ways with a player for other reasons, well then that is a managerial decision.

Wally was splitting time between basketball and track and he was going to be buried on the bench while eating up a scholarship. From a coaching perspective, it was a no-brainer to dump him for someone who could help the team this season, in the future or, ideally, both.