Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[WhiteTrash]

There is an academic side to things?

Probably not for much longer.

I think there is a very strong case to be made that academics are discriminatory.

Also the same case can be made for academics that was made for NIL. The NIL ruling formalizes what has been going on for years. Eliminating actual enrollment and academic requirements would simply formalize what has been going on for years.

I think NIL has set the table nicely for academics to go away.

I'd guess that if the courts don't decide, it will be settle during negotiations between the players and ownership. "We'll still go to class for 10% more of the revenue".

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yeah, that's not happening any time soon. I know you are invested in NIL being the death of college sports, but you will just have to deal with college sports going on strong in spite of (or maybe with help from) NIL.

[MU82]

There is an academic side to things? I thought going to school was just an illusion.

Said college sports fans in 1969 ... and 1979 and 1989 and 1999 and 2009 and 2019.

Xavier booker finally makes the top 100, all the way to 3.

Tre Norman is 91st.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings

You talkin' 'bout recruiting here? What the heck is wrong with you? This thread is for everybody to proclaim that the Big East is doomed and all of college sports will soon be owned by 4 schools.

[PBRme]

It has already happened at some schools Louisville, Memphis, North Carolina, etc

[WhiteTrash]

Yeah, that's not happening any time soon. I know you are invested in NIL being the death of college sports, but you will just have to deal with college sports going on strong in spite of (or maybe with help from) NIL.

I have been in support of NIL for about a year or more. It is logical and fair to the athlete. The way the colleges have refused to managed it has been terrible. NIL is the death of college sports as we've known it.

I don't understand how anyone in favor of NIL cannot see or be opposed to the logical conclusion that is most equitable to the players.

Why do you care if the Marquette Basketball team is an entity owned (wholly or partially) by Marquette University and not an inequitable school team of players who mostly care less about academics. Let the players decide if they want tuition or the money. Why do we have to force a college education on someone who does not want it?

The NIL backers (correctly) argued that the only realistic path to a pro-sports career was college sports and there was no other realistic option. This was the cornerstone argument against the opposition who said the players were not forced to accept the NCAA rules and could seek other avenues to make money.

If the college rout is the only viable option, why limit it to those with the ability or desire to attend college? Maybe us old dudes just know what's better for these young people? They need to shut up and play by our rules.

[Uncle Rico]

I have been in support of NIL for about a year or more. It is logical and fair to the athlete. The way the colleges have refused to managed it has been terrible. NIL is the death of college sports as we've known it.

I don't understand how anyone in favor of NIL cannot see or be opposed to the logical conclusion that is most equitable to the players.

Why do you care if the Marquette Basketball team is an entity owned (wholly or partially) by Marquette University and not an inequitable school team of players who mostly care less about academics. Let the players decide if they want tuition or the money. Why do we have to force a college education on someone who does not want it?

The NIL backers (correctly) argued that the only realistic path to a pro-sports career was college sports and there was no other realistic option. This was the cornerstone argument against the opposition who said the players were not forced to accept the NCAA rules and could seek other avenues to make money.

If the college rout is the only viable option, why limit it to those with the ability or desire to attend college? Maybe us old dudes just know what's better for these young people? They need to shut up and play by our rules.

Lol

[bilsu]

I have been in support of NIL for about a year or more. It is logical and fair to the athlete. The way the colleges have refused to managed it has been terrible. NIL is the death of college sports as we've known it.

I don't understand how anyone in favor of NIL cannot see or be opposed to the logical conclusion that is most equitable to the players.

Why do you care if the Marquette Basketball team is an entity owned (wholly or partially) by Marquette University and not an inequitable school team of players who mostly care less about academics. Let the players decide if they want tuition or the money. Why do we have to force a college education on someone who does not want it?

The NIL backers (correctly) argued that the only realistic path to a pro-sports career was college sports and there was no other realistic option. This was the cornerstone argument against the opposition who said the players were not forced to accept the NCAA rules and could seek other avenues to make money.

If the college rout is the only viable option, why limit it to those with the ability or desire to attend college? Maybe us old dudes just know what's better for these young people? They need to shut up and play by our rules.

They should not be on a college team, if they do not want to go to school. Today there are other options.

[WhiteTrash]

They should not be on a college team, if they do not want to go to school abide by the NCAA rules on NIL. Today there are other options.

What is the difference? Will the courts and lawmakers view a kid making money on TikTok as more deserving of justice than a highly skilled football who can't score better than 13 on the ACT? Maybe. I think, IMO, we will know sooner than later.

[avid1010]

What is the difference? Will the courts and lawmakers view a kid making money on TikTok as more deserving of justice than a highly skilled football who can't score better than 13 on the ACT? Maybe. I think, IMO, we will know sooner than later.

That's one dumb football...

[Lennys Tap]

That's one dumb football...

...but highly skilled.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I have been in support of NIL for about a year or more. It is logical and fair to the athlete. The way the colleges have refused to managed it has been terrible. NIL is the death of college sports as we've known it.

What you're describing is the death of college sports. College is in the name. If you divorce the sport from the college it's minor league sports, not college sports. And we've been over this, no significant population of people is paying to see the Ann Arbor Wolverines. College sports are successful because of their connections to schools.

I don't understand how anyone in favor of NIL cannot see or be opposed to the logical conclusion that is most equitable to the players.

It's not equitable. Most universities can't afford to pay players in cash the value that currently receive. It would either lead to programs closing en masse or players making significantly less than they were before, a lose lose situation.

Why do you care if the Marquette Basketball team is an entity owned (wholly or partially) by Marquette University and not an inequitable school team of players who mostly care less about academics. Let the players decide if they want tuition or the money. Why do we have to force a college education on someone who does not want it?

I think you are engaging in gross stereotypes. The vast majority of college athletes, including basketball and football players want a college education.

The NIL backers (correctly) argued that the only realistic path to a pro-sports career was college sports and there was no other realistic option. This was the cornerstone argument against the opposition who said the players were not forced to accept the NCAA rules and could seek other avenues to make money.

If the college rout is the only viable option, why limit it to those with the ability or desire to attend college? Maybe us old dudes just know what's better for these young people? They need to shut up and play by our rules.

Denying NIL was universities arbitrarily limiting the income of their players. That is categorical different from arguing that universities should alter the compensation that they offer.

What is the difference? Will the courts and lawmakers view a kid making money on TikTok as more deserving of justice than a highly skilled football who can't score better than 13 on the ACT? Maybe. I think, IMO, we will know sooner than later.

As someone who works in civil rights and higher education law, I can tell you that there has never been a successful discrimination lawsuit against a school for having admission standards (there have been ones for specific admission standards but not for just having admission standards). I also think you overestimate the number of potential players who can't qualify at any NCAA institutions. They can also go to an NJCAA school and qualify in a year or two. Lawmakers aren't destroying college sports so a small population of people don't have to go to juco for a year or two.

Again, we're two years into insta-transfers and a year into NIL. College sports has yet to diminish in any meaningful way. Despite doom and glooming for years on this topic, things aren't falling apart.

Now, the whole conference realignment thing is another story. That has potential to mess things up. But that was happening no matter what happened with NIL and insta-transfers

[Lennys Tap]

Now, the whole conference realignment thing is another story. That has potential to mess things up. But that was happening no matter what happened with NIL and insta-transfers

TAMU

Do you think it's possible that the uncertainties surrounding fallout from NIL and insta-transfers encouraged the big boys to consolidate and firm up the landscape that was already tilting in their direction?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU

Do you think it's possible that the uncertainties surrounding fallout from NIL and insta-transfers encouraged the big boys to consolidate and firm up the landscape that was already tilting in their direction?

No even a little bit

[GoFastAndWin]

If the college rout is the only viable option, why limit it to those with the ability or desire to attend college?

I thought we were all in agreement that margin of victory is mainly a football thing 🤣

[MUDPT]

I know MU has been out for awhile, but Estrella is announcing on Friday between Iowa, Syracuse and Tennessee

https://twitter.com/AdamFinkelstein/status/1565090525056729088

[Uncle Rico]

I know MU has been out for awhile, but Estrella is announcing on Friday between Iowa, Syracuse and Tennessee

https://twitter.com/AdamFinkelstein/status/1565090525056729088

4 crystal balls. 

#DoneDeal

[Newsdreams]

4 crystal balls. 

#DoneDeal

Never been wrong

[JWags85]

I know MU has been out for awhile, but Estrella is announcing on Friday between Iowa, Syracuse and Tennessee

https://twitter.com/AdamFinkelstein/status/1565090525056729088

Maine misses out on ANOTHER top tier recruit.  Sad!

[Royale]

Any anxiety over Tre Norman's Rutgers visit this weekend, just days ahead of his scheduled Sept. 6 commitment?

[brewcity77]

Any anxiety over Tre Norman's Rutgers visit this weekend, just days ahead of his scheduled Sept. 6 commitment?

None whatsoever.

[Shooter McGavin]

None whatsoever.

Because it's not worth getting anxious over or you think it's a given he picks MU?

[Spotcheck Billy]

Because it's not worth getting anxious over or you think it's a given he picks MU?

exactly

[Uncle Rico]

exactly

I'll be concerned if the crystal balls start to change

[tower912]

exactly

What he said.

[jfp61]

#donedeal