Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[Strokin 3s]

Wow this thread sucks now, last 7 pages and I think less than 5 posts about recruits

[TVDirector]

Welcome to MU Scoop!
Where everything's off topic!

[Newsdreams]

Wow this thread sucks now, last 7 pages and I think less than 5 posts about recruits

You must not read a lot of threads here

[jfp61]

Also zero recruiting is going on right now. 2023 recruiting is presumably done. And 2024 recruiting doesn't pick up for a few weeks.

[Herman Cain]

This just isnt true for most schools. Exceptions exist for like Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech, but you won't see any players enroll in engineering or nursing for a reason. It just isn't feasible. They don't "innately" restrict students, they just tell them that the time allotted for that major won't work with our team.

Also if you have D1 athletes in your family, just ask them. Theyll tell you.

They agree with this analysis

[Dr. Blackheart]

Wow this thread sucks now, last 7 pages and I think less than 5 posts about recruits

Check back Sept. 6

[Uncle Rico]

Wow this thread sucks now, last 7 pages and I think less than 5 posts about recruits

Marquette quit recruiting.  They're moving to DIII

[We R Final Four]

Also zero recruiting is going on right now. 2023 recruiting is presumably done. And 2024 recruiting doesn't pick up for a few weeks.

Tre Norman is not a zero.

[rocket surgeon]

No D1 college basketball player is going to college for the college education, unless they are wicked smart ahead of time. You can't have a "great" major as a college basketball player without high amounts of incoming credits. Coaches wont allow it.

Its amazing how many fans don't know this.

Dr Larry hatchet begs to differ.  Knew him a little back in the day.  Took some of the same classes. He was an all round great guy. 

https://psnmo.net/member-providers/dr-lawrence-hatchett-urology/

[jfp61]

Tre Norman is not a zero.

Not a zero. Tre Norman is a #donedeal.

[Newsdreams]

Not a zero. Tre Norman is a #donedeal.

So he gowne?

[muwarrior69]

Dr Larry hatchet begs to differ.  Knew him a little back in the day.  Took some of the same classes. He was an all round great guy. 

https://psnmo.net/member-providers/dr-lawrence-hatchett-urology/

Ulice Payne also differs:
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/ulice_payne

....and these guys played basketball at the highest level, not like most low and mid major players at D1 schools.

[The Sultan]

Dr Larry hatchet begs to differ.  Knew him a little back in the day.  Took some of the same classes. He was an all round great guy. 

https://psnmo.net/member-providers/dr-lawrence-hatchett-urology/

Ulice Payne also differs:
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/ulice_payne

....and these guys played basketball at the highest level, not like most low and mid major players at D1 schools.

The fact you have to go back at least 40 years says something.

[Shooter McGavin]

Not trying to be a jag here, but the reality is, this isn't different than before.  It's just above board now. 

Keep shoe companies in mind here as well.  For basketball, they'll still nudge kids to schools they're affiliated with and probably NIL them in doing so.  Elite talent is still going to end up at the Dukes of the world. 

There has always been a gap.

I don't think you are being a jag at all.  The discussion is good.

I do know that it happened before and it's above board now.  But it wasn't as universal as it is now.  Was this truly happening at MU for instance in the last thirty years?  Or was it only happening at the blue bloods?

It would be interesting to ask a Travis Dener or Steve Novak how much money they got if we could get and honest answer.

If they got nothing or very little, then you really can't say it's always been this way it's just above board now. 

Now we are competing with every school that wants to be competitive and a higher salary/bag drop/enticement is a huge part of the equation for schools like MU.

[Uncle Rico]

I don't think you are being a jag at all.  The discussion is good.

I do know that it happened before and it's above board now.  But it wasn't as universal as it is now.  Was this truly happening at MU for instance in the last thirty years?  Or was it only happening at the blue bloods?

It would be interesting to ask a Travis Dener or Steve Novak how much money they got if we could get and honest answer.

If they got nothing or very little, then you really can't say it's always been this way it's just above board now. 

Now we are competing with every school that wants to be competitive and a higher salary/bag drop/enticement is a huge part of the equation for schools like MU.

I think we're overestimating how much money is being thrown around at most recruits.  The elite kids will still get elite bag.

[MU82]

Yeah, let's find a very few cases -- Hatchett, Payne, Marotta, maybe 1 or 2 others -- from the last half-century of Marquette basketball and pretend it "proves" that high-major, scholarship basketball players don't go to college expressly to play basketball.

Those examples certainly didn't disprove the point made by jfp61, who said: "No D1 college basketball player is going to college for the college education, unless they are wicked smart ahead of time."

I think one could argue pretty easily that Hatchett, Payne and Marotta were intelligent, focused kids before they ever stepped foot on the Marquette campus.

And even jfp61's use of "No" was just for emphasis. I'm sure a few kids who weren't considered "wicked smart" before they got to campus have gone on to discover they loved learning and have parlayed it into academic success that led to great non-basketball-related careers. Very few. So few that "no" isn't really even hyperbole.

[Shooter McGavin]

I think we're overestimating how much money is being thrown around at most recruits.  The elite kids will still get elite bag.

That's fair, the money still might not be that much where it makes a difference for us/MU.

[Newsdreams]

The bidding of NIL bag for the elite talents will be done by the usual suspects who were doing it before.

[dgies9156]

Ulice Payne also differs:
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/ulice_payne

....and these guys played basketball at the highest level, not like most low and mid major players at D1 schools.

So would Tony Smith, who I believe majored in Engineering.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

So would Tony Smith, who I believe majored in Engineering.

Yep, had him in several of my classes.

[The Sultan]

So would Tony Smith, who I believe majored in Engineering.

Just mechanical though

[withoutbias]

This just isnt true for most schools. Exceptions exist for like Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech, but you won't see any players enroll in engineering or nursing for a reason. It just isn't feasible. They don't "innately" restrict students, they just tell them that the time allotted for that major won't work with our team.

Also if you have D1 athletes in your family, just ask them. Theyll tell you.

Yeah, I guarantee you a HUGE majority of D1 college basketball coaches have never had a discussion with a player about what majors they can't declare. Every program has a staff in place to handle the academic side of things.

[TedBaxter]

nm

[jfp61]

Xavier booker finally makes the top 100, all the way to 3.

Tre Norman is 91st.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings

[muwarrior69]

Yeah, I guarantee you a HUGE majority of D1 college basketball coaches have never had a discussion with a player about what majors they can't declare. Every program has a staff in place to handle the academic side of things.

There is an academic side to things? I thought going to school was just an illusion.