Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I've seen and heard nothing that leads me to believe that Marquette is in trouble moving forward. Some football programs are going to be in a really tough spot. Mid and low majors are going to have a lot less opportunities in basketball and some may even be removed from D1 altogether. The top 8-10 leagues in basketball will be just fine.

[Uncle Rico]

I'm not sure it's up to their alumni. They would be left out because other, larger schools have determined they are leaving money on the table by including them.

No one is walking away from those schools

[Hards Alumni]

Because I doubt that they will be leaving to run their own tournaments. Financially they are doing fine where they are and can use the NCAA infrastructure for everything but football.

Why?  More money is always good to them.  Otherwise they wouldn't be blowing up the current conferences for football.

What would their motivation be to not seize it all?

[Uncle Rico]

Why?  More money is always good to them.  Otherwise they wouldn't be blowing up the current conferences for football.

What would their motivation be to not seize it all?

The tournament isn't the tournament if it's just giants.  Their TV partners will also agree with this

[LAZER]

No one is walking away from those schools

If football is calling the shots and they're looking to maximize revenue, why would they include those schools?

[Uncle Rico]

If football is calling the shots and they're looking to maximize revenue, why would they include those schools?

Because there hasn't been any indication those schools will get cut from anything.  The Big Ten isn't booting Northwestern all of a sudden.  They still need inventory.  Who is replacing them?  Cincinnati?  Iowa State?

I'll listen to Wake and Baylor being left behind but Northwestern, Duke and TCU are fine.  Is it possible Duke and TCU are in some Frankenstein league?  Absolutely.  But they aren't going to be battling for a spot in the Big East or AAC

[MU82]

No "concern" for you (or Sultan or Rico) because it's out of your control? Hilarious.  Thousands of posts on Scoop say otherwise.

Actually, in that same post, I specifically said I wasn't concerned. It was great that the Big East was reconstituted, and I am confident it will continue to be a viable league for years and years. I agree with this from TAMU:

I've seen and heard nothing that leads me to believe that Marquette is in trouble moving forward. Some football programs are going to be in a really tough spot. Mid and low majors are going to have a lot less opportunities in basketball and some may even be removed from D1 altogether. The top 8-10 leagues in basketball will be just fine.

Now Lenny, as far as me not expressing concern on something out of my control ...

This is sports. It is out of my control. There literally is nothing I can do, and I am not concerned anyway.

My concerns about something like preserving our democratic republic, that I can do something about. I can vote, I can campaign on behalf of people who I believe will work to preserve democracy, I can donate, I can volunteer at voting sites, I can drive voters to the polls, etc. And I have done all of those things.

I certainly hope that Baker Mayfield doesn't suck, but I'm not "concerned" about it because there ain't nuttin' I can do about it except stop watching the Panthers, and I'm a glutton for punishment. Same with Shaka's recruiting -- I trust he will do his job well and that if he doesn't he will be shown the door.

But sure, I'm certain that if you dig through Scoop's history you can find an instance or 3 where I expressed "concern" about something out of my control. Enjoy!

[LAZER]

Because there hasn't been any indication those schools will get cut from anything.  The Big Ten isn't booting Northwestern all of a sudden.  They still need inventory.  Who is replacing them?  Cincinnati?  Iowa State?

I'll listen to Wake and Baylor being left behind but Northwestern, Duke and TCU are fine.  Is it possible Duke and TCU are in some Frankenstein league?  Absolutely.  But they aren't going to be battling for a spot in the Big East or AAC

Yeah I agree that the B10 hasn't indicated anything like this and it's really just rampant speculation on my part. But I think 48 football schools breaking off and forming a pro-type league with 4 divisions seems plausible. And in this scenario, the smaller, lesser football schools won't have their tradition and conference affiliation to fall back on.

[🏀]

So recruiting. When's Norman announcing again?

[Uncle Rico]

So recruiting. When's Norman announcing again?

He's committing on September 6th.  With two crystal balls, the wiener is trending blue

[Jay Bee]

Dawson's waiver ok'd. He's immediately eligible.

See, we get 5*'s!!

[🏀]

He's committing on September 6th.  With two crystal balls, the wiener is trending blue

That's the problem, too many blue wieners around here.

[Uncle Rico]

Dawson's waiver ok'd. He's immediately eligible.

See, we get 5*'s!!

I hope Dawson finds happiness and success as a Gopher

[Newsdreams]

Dawson's waiver ok'd. He's immediately eligible.

See, we get 5*'s!!

Nothing on crystal ball?

[JakeBarnes]

That's the problem, too many blue wieners around here.

#wienerparty

[We R Final Four]

I hope Dawson finds happiness and success as a Gopher

Especially against the Vadgers.

[brewcity77]

If football is calling the shots and they're looking to maximize revenue, why would they include those schools?

Because someone has to lose games. Get rid of them, and what's next? Getting rid of the new bottom feeders? And then just keep removing the bottom until it's just Ohio State and Alabama playing each other and going .500?

Teams like Northwestern and Vanderbilt losing are just as important to those leagues as the big boys winning. They need the weak teams to prop their records up.

[MU82]

The Globetrotters need the Generals, eh brew?

[WhiteTrash]

I know this thread needs to get back to recruiting, but the previous posts just highlight the question:

Is there any sport league in America that operates like this bazaar Division 1 college football and basketball?

Un-capped salaries
No shared national TV revenue
No commissioner or league office
No player union/association
Complete freedom of player movement

I am serious, is there anything else like this?

[Newsdreams]

I know this thread needs to get back to recruiting, but the previous posts just highlight the question:

Is there any sport league in America that operates like this bazaar Division 1 college football and basketball?

Un-capped salaries
No shared national TV revenue
No commissioner or league office
No player union/association
Complete freedom of player movement

I am serious, is there anything else like this?

You worry too much. Nothing you can control.

[jfp61]

I know this thread needs to get back to recruiting, but the previous posts just highlight the question:

Is there any sport league in America that operates like this bazaar Division 1 college football and basketball?

Un-capped salaries
No shared national TV revenue
No commissioner or league office
No player union/association
Complete freedom of player movement

I am serious, is there anything else like this?

Futbol

[Shooter McGavin]

I know this thread needs to get back to recruiting, but the previous posts just highlight the question:

Is there any sport league in America that operates like this bazaar Division 1 college football and basketball?

Un-capped salaries
No shared national TV revenue
No commissioner or league office
No player union/association
Complete freedom of player movement

I am serious, is there anything else like this?

Valid points despite Newsy and UR's Pollyanna takes and sarcasm (and I love their sarcasm).  Hopefully it (football breaks away BUT keeps the top 200 teams for basketball) plays out in our favor eventually.

[LAZER]

Because someone has to lose games. Get rid of them, and what's next? Getting rid of the new bottom feeders? And then just keep removing the bottom until it's just Ohio State and Alabama playing each other and going .500?

Teams like Northwestern and Vanderbilt losing are just as important to those leagues as the big boys winning. They need the weak teams to prop their records up.

Conferences won't matter. It'll be the biggest football schools combining for the maximum amount of dollars. Traditions, conferences, and rivalries won't matter. B10 schools won't be interested in including Vandy, SEC schools won't be interested in including Northwestern, Texas schools won't be interested in Duke/Wake, and so on. Kind of like the European Super League.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I know this thread needs to get back to recruiting, but the previous posts just highlight the question:

Is there any sport league in America that operates like this bazaar Division 1 college football and basketball?

Un-capped salaries
No shared national TV revenue
No commissioner or league office
No player union/association
Complete freedom of player movement

I am serious, is there anything else like this?

There are capped salaries. A school can't provide more than tuition and associated costs. NIL is not salary, it comes from outside the university. There's no cap on professional NIL money either.

There is a commissioner and league office. It's different from a professional one but it does exist.

It's not compete freedom of player movement. Players can only play for one team per season and they only get one free transfer. But yes, it's essentially like every player is on a one year contact until their first transfer.

[Shooter McGavin]

There are capped salaries. A school can't provide more than tuition and associated costs. NIL is not salary, it comes from outside the university. There's no cap on professional NIL money either.

There is a commissioner and league office. It's different from a professional one but it does exist.

It's not compete freedom of player movement. Players can only play for one team per season and they only get one free transfer. But yes, it's essentially like every player is on a one year contact until their first transfer.

TAMU,

Love your posts and knowledge but NIL supported by the university (despite not  being directly paid by the university) is just like a salary and used as an enticement to come to school. University alumni and friends of the University are paying the additional costs now but Universities are smartly directing it.  This is for nothing but attendance. The kids have zero marketability, especially prior to playing games and likely none afterwards as well.

You can rationalize it all you want. These teenagers have zero effect on a business enterprise.   Its an uncapped salary situation and will only get more salary like as the years go on.  I'm glad MU is paying these kids a salary through NIL (yeah, yeah it's a not for profit).  Hopefully they will continue to raise their salaries and we will continue to have a viable basketball program.