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MU82

Quote from: Viper on August 24, 2022, 10:32:43 PM
you still buyin' that beer?

I'm sure I'll buy beer. I like beer (he said, sounding like a SCOTUS justice). Did I also promise to buy you a beer?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Newsdreams on August 24, 2022, 08:55:46 PM
Sounds very COLE

Ha!  Just the opposite.  I want to win an NCAA title ASAP. No COLE here.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on August 24, 2022, 10:45:41 PM
Ha!  Just the opposite.  I want to win an NCAA title ASAP. No COLE here.
Culture!!! We need 5 yrs
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

avid1010

Quote from: Viper on August 24, 2022, 04:14:46 PM
I implied neither. But, what has MU done in the last 10 or so years? Other than the national spotlight on Markus Howard, a few nice individual wins, it's been lean. I'm hoping for better days. Looking forward to 82 buying me a beer in Ft Myers. I'll wear a MU shirt for easy ID.
Oh...it seemed like you were complaining about Shaka's recruits.

NolongerWarriors

I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.

avid1010

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on August 25, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.
There's my guy!

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on August 25, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.

Nolonger Warriors is still a complete turd.

Ardmore Mug

+1,000,000  That's why I still have him on IGNORE  ! ! !  But then have to see his inane posts when people "Quote"/ box his
remarks ! ! !  Mr BadgerFan can F-O ! ! !   8-)

bilsu

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on August 25, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.
My contrarian nature is showing up.  I have seen a lot of high-ranking recruits come to MU who did not amount to much at MU. I think this class has a lot of potential to develop into very good players. This assumes they do not transfer out. I think the biggest downside of this class is that it does not fill an immediate need. We needed big men and the 6-9 forward at 185 is likely to not be strong enough to contribute as a freshman.

Classes are not complete yet, but the only Big East team that is having a really good class is Uconn. The other Big East schools are not outing recruiting us. However, I think as a whole the Big East recruiting is bad. It may depend on which site you are looking at, but I see only 6 top 100 recruits committed to play for the Big East. This worries me more than MU's recruiting. I am not sure what the Big East becomes, if Villanova falls off.

4everwarriors

Billy Packer wuz write, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Newsdreams

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on August 25, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.
True, MU is not leaving Milwaukee
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 25, 2022, 10:55:12 AM
Billy Packer wuz write, hey?

No.  Given the right coach, any program can be the next Villanova.  It takes a lot of luck and patience. 
Guster is for Lovers

Vander Blue Man Group

In regards to Shaka's recruiting, it's also a pretty small sample size so far.  It does look like he has success targeting guys that are ascending and, that while not necessarily ranked highly, appear to have high ceilings. 

We'll see how it evolves over the coming seasons as the program hopefully finds more success.  I would not be surprised if he continues to target the same kind of players while being able to pull in a few more top 50 - 75 guys (and hopefully better) that fit what he wants for the program. 

And that's where development and everyone's favorite word, culture, come into play.  If he's able to develop these guys while retaining most of them due to his obvious strength of building relationships we could see some special teams. 

I have no idea what to expect this season - the potential range of outcomes is pretty wide.  I think we'll learn a lot from how much the returnees improve this season. 

Nukem2

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on August 25, 2022, 11:57:50 AM
In regards to Shaka's recruiting, it's also a pretty small sample size so far.  It does look like he has success targeting guys that are ascending and, that while not necessarily ranked highly, appear to have high ceilings. 

We'll see how it evolves over the coming seasons as the program hopefully finds more success.  I would not be surprised if he continues to target the same kind of players while being able to pull in a few more top 50 - 75 guys (and hopefully better) that fit what he wants for the program. 

And that's where development and everyone's favorite word, culture, come into play.  If he's able to develop these guys while retaining most of them due to his obvious strength of building relationships we could see some special teams. 

I have no idea what to expect this season - the potential range of outcomes is pretty wide.  I think we'll learn a lot from how much the returnees improve this season.
Agree. It's where things are at.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

There is an obvious correlation between how highly ranked a recruit is and the likelihood that they are a productive college player. But there's a big drop off in accuracy after the top 20 or so and another big drop off after the top 45 or so. Once you get into players ranked in the 45-200 range, there's not much difference in the likelihood of the #45 player being a stud and the #200 player being  a stud.

I don't really give a rat's butt about what a recruit is ranked, I care if Shaka can win with them or not.

Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Goose

TAMU

I agree completely. I said a couple of weeks ago that after the top 20 or so guys, it really comes down to guys fitting into a program. Until proven otherwise I have 100% confidence that Shaka has a plan in place and knows how to execute. Have said many times, Shaka being able to recruit is not a concern of mine. His best recruiting may be keeping guys to stay 2-3 years and play together vs. hitting the transfer portal.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Goose on August 25, 2022, 01:03:09 PM
TAMU

I agree completely. I said a couple of weeks ago that after the top 20 or so guys, it really comes down to guys fitting into a program. Until proven otherwise I have 100% confidence that Shaka has a plan in place and knows how to execute. Have said many times, Shaka being able to recruit is not a concern of mine. His best recruiting may be keeping guys to stay 2-3 years and play together vs. hitting the transfer portal.

In this new era, I am Team Retention and Team Build
Guster is for Lovers

TedBaxter

Quote from: NolongerWarriors on August 25, 2022, 07:21:00 AM
I love people trying to defend and justify this obvious dud of a recruiting class.

It might get better, but MU is going nowhere with what Shaka is bringing in.

Anytime people start discussing recruiting classes before they even start at Marquette, I remind myself that Marquette had 6 Parade All-American's (top 40 recruits) in the 1980, 81 and 82 recruiting classes.  Glenn Rivers, Dwayne Johnson, Mandy Johnson, Walter Downing, Kerry Trotter and Lloyd Moore.  They had moderate success at best. 

The moral of the story is that you wait 4-5 years to evaluate a recruiting class.
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

swoopem

Quote from: TedBaxter on August 25, 2022, 01:20:09 PM

The moral of the story is that you wait 4-5 years to evaluate a recruiting class.

You wait till they graduate? I think it's fair to start evaluating them once they start playing
Bring back FFP!!!

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Uncle Rico on August 25, 2022, 11:55:58 AM
No.  Given the right coach, any program can be the next Villanova.  It takes a lot of luck and patience.

You have to add the right amount of NIL money in addition to the right coach now but your point is mostly correct. 

wadesworld

I see a lot of role players on the roster.  I don't see a lot of First Team All Conference level talent.  I do think Sean Jones is hugely underrated, so maybe Ben Gold and Chase Ross were as well.  But talent usually wins, and I think we need a lot more of it.

4everwarriors

Note only 1 BE playa was drafted by the Association last June. Talent sucks major ass in this mid-major conference, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 25, 2022, 02:20:42 PM
Note only 1 BE playa was drafted by the Association last June. Talent sucks major ass in this mid-major conference, aina?

That's a big win for you!
Guster is for Lovers

We R Final Four

Memphis had two.......so we would be fortunate to even be considered a mid major conference!

TedBaxter

Quote from: swoopem on August 25, 2022, 01:29:48 PM
You wait till they graduate? I think it's fair to start evaluating them once they start playing

I wait until after the graduate to evaluate a whole class, but that's me.   
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

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