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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26925 on: July 25, 2020, 06:59:29 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 25, 2020, 05:04:49 AM
Louisville continues to suffer dramatically from the weight of NCAA sanctions

What do you want?  They got rid of the coach who was the main problem and made a good coaching hire. Are they supposed to suffer for some length of time?
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26926 on: July 25, 2020, 08:31:58 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
Are they supposed to suffer for some length of time?

Louisville?  Yes.  Eternity would be my minimum sentence.  But I think a double eternity sentence would be fair.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26927 on: July 25, 2020, 08:53:54 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
What do you want?  They got rid of the coach who was the main problem and made a good coaching hire. Are they supposed to suffer for some length of time?
It did not hurt them when the coach got in trouble for having a dalliance in a restaurant. It did not hurt them when they got caught hiring hookers for visits. They just keep marching on no matter what they do.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26928 on: July 25, 2020, 10:34:32 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
What do you want?  They got rid of the coach who was the main problem and made a good coaching hire. Are they supposed to suffer for some length of time?
This is so ignorant.  They got caught paying a recruit $100k. They will be punished. They chose to be in the NCAA and know the rules.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26929 on: July 25, 2020, 11:14:33 AM »
Louisville, kansas n others deserve a 1 yr death penalty if the ncaa has any integrity n truly wants to clean up the ncaas
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26930 on: July 25, 2020, 11:47:37 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 25, 2020, 11:14:33 AM
Louisville, kansas n others deserve a 1 yr death penalty if the ncaa has any integrity n truly wants to clean up the ncaas

Yep
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26931 on: July 25, 2020, 11:57:53 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 06:59:29 AM
What do you want?  They got rid of the coach who was the main problem and made a good coaching hire. Are they supposed to suffer for some length of time?

I think that a length of time equivalent to the length of time they benefited would be fair.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26932 on: July 25, 2020, 11:58:18 AM »
Don't think the NCAA has the onions.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26933 on: July 25, 2020, 12:25:58 PM »
Any punishment that does not include a postseason ban doesn't really have teeth. I'm not advocating for overly harsh penalties, but scholarship reductions, recruiting limitations, those don't seem to have any real impact on programs. I guess it's their choice, but the simple reality is programs only tangibly suffer consequence when the postseason is on the line.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26934 on: July 25, 2020, 12:29:58 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 25, 2020, 12:25:58 PM
Any punishment that does not include a postseason ban doesn't really have teeth. I'm not advocating for overly harsh penalties, but scholarship reductions, recruiting limitations, those don't seem to have any real impact on programs. I guess it's their choice, but the simple reality is programs only tangibly suffer consequence when the postseason is on the line.

The one that always cracks me up is vacating wins. Like we all just forgot Derrick rose and Memphis were in the championship game
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26935 on: July 25, 2020, 12:31:03 PM »
There are a lot more middle of the road Power 6 teams (like MU) than there are elites (like Louisville). Their “votes” all count the same. If the middle of the roaders wanted schools like Louisville, Kansas, Arizona, etc., to get death penalty like punishments they would. Bottom line, it’s not good for business.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26936 on: July 25, 2020, 03:21:24 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 25, 2020, 10:34:32 AM
This is so ignorant.  They got caught paying a recruit $100k. They will be punished. They chose to be in the NCAA and know the rules.

It’s not ignorant. I just don’t think that schools should be punished that severely for something that in the grand scheme of things isn’t that big of a deal.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26937 on: July 25, 2020, 03:22:28 PM »
Quote from: bilsu on July 25, 2020, 08:53:54 AM
It did not hurt them when the coach got in trouble for having a dalliance in a restaurant.

Why should it?
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26938 on: July 25, 2020, 03:44:37 PM »
Anyone up for continuing this in the NCAA Thread rather than the Recruiting one?

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59933.msg1258798#msg1258798
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26939 on: July 25, 2020, 04:29:07 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 03:21:24 PM
It’s not ignorant. I just don’t think that schools should be punished that severely for something that in the grand scheme of things isn’t that big of a deal.
Not that big of deal!!! It's a major violation of NCAA rules.  Louisville is part of the organization that made the rules. They can leave the NCAA any time they want to. Should MU be able to play with 9 foot baskets? If every school is going to play by their own rules,  why not?
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26940 on: July 25, 2020, 04:47:36 PM »
Man just think of the dunks Ners could do on a 9’ hoop.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26941 on: July 25, 2020, 04:49:17 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 03:22:28 PM
Why should it?

Hey, I eat in that restaurant.  What if the table cloth didn't get a through wash!
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26942 on: July 25, 2020, 04:53:36 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 25, 2020, 04:29:07 PM
Not that big of deal!!! It's a major violation of NCAA rules. 

Oh my!!!
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26943 on: July 25, 2020, 05:49:04 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 04:53:36 PM
Oh my!!!
That is a well reasoned and logical response.  I stand corrected.

I think we are a little smarter after reading that.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26944 on: July 25, 2020, 06:00:28 PM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 25, 2020, 12:31:03 PM
There are a lot more middle of the road Power 6 teams (like MU) than there are elites (like Louisville). Their “votes” all count the same. If the middle of the roaders wanted schools like Louisville, Kansas, Arizona, etc., to get death penalty like punishments they would. Bottom line, it’s not good for business.
When it comes to this it is the power 5 teams. The big football conferences would be happy to start their own NCAA type tournament and leave the Big East out. It is the power five conferences threatening to go out on their own that is limiting NCAA's enforcement powers.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26945 on: July 25, 2020, 07:56:06 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 25, 2020, 05:49:04 PM
That is a well reasoned and logical response.  I stand corrected.

I think we are a little smarter after reading that.

Really I just don’t view it as a big deal that requires years long ramifications.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26946 on: July 25, 2020, 09:14:45 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 07:56:06 PM
Really I just don’t view it as a big deal that requires years long ramifications.
So what is the dollar limit becomes a big deal? It's a violation that Louisville signed up for. There's no requirement for Louisville to be in the NCAA.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26947 on: July 25, 2020, 09:23:15 PM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 25, 2020, 09:14:45 PM
So what is the dollar limit becomes a big deal? It's a violation that Louisville signed up for. There's no requirement for Louisville to be in the NCAA.

I mean the NCAA gave them the punishment. So what are you bitching about?
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26948 on: July 26, 2020, 12:02:33 AM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 25, 2020, 09:23:15 PM
I mean the NCAA gave them the punishment. So what are you bitching about?
No they have not yet.
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Re: Recruiting as of 6/15/20
« Reply #26949 on: July 26, 2020, 12:34:13 AM »
Nice recruiting thread we got going
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