Recruiting as of 5/15/25

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So, I'm sorta with Brother Hoopster here....sorta.

The assertion that Mannion will not be a star at Arizona, Duke, MU, or Nova because he is white is dumb. No other way to say it. Every one of those schools had star players who are a white within the last season!

I do think there is a perception amongst NBA GMs and coaches (and fans) that white players can't be as good as black players that might cause white players to go lower in the draft. In fact, I think Brother Hoopster's post is kind of evidence of this!

[GGGG]

So, I'm sorta with Brother Hoopster here....sorta.

The assertion that Mannion will not be a star at Arizona, Duke, MU, or Nova because he is white is dumb. No other way to say it. Every one of those schools had star players who are a white within the last season!

I do think there is a perception amongst NBA GMs and coaches (and fans) that white players can't be as good as black players that might cause white players to go lower in the draft. In fact, I think Brother Hoopster's post is kind of evidence of this!

So how many white NBA players should have been drafted higher?  As a percentage, is that any different than black players that should have been drafted higher?

[rocky_warrior]

This is a moderating conundrum...do a remove a post because it is racist? Do I leave it along because he admits to being racist? But most importantly, does the post exhibit hate speech?

To the latter, I think no. And you guys can reprimand him for being racist...

[TSmith34, Inc.]

To the latter, I think no. And you guys can reprimand him for being racist...

Forget racist, it should definitely remain as a monument for being dumbist.  It's a veritable shining beacon of Dumbism.

[MomofMUltiples]

C'mon guys, please don't get the recruiting thread locked. Take your racism over to the Superbar.

[GB Warrior]

Forget racist, it should definitely remain as a monument for being dumbist.  It's a veritable shining beacon of Dumbism.

If we're going to start moderating this on scoop, it's gonna get real quiet around here

[Its DJOver]

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Quote from: MU82 on August 13, 2018, 09:06:14 AM
Again, I think it's fun that folks on both sides of this argument are claiming to know what's going on in the heads of 16-year-old basketball players.

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:44:02 PM
But to a 17-year-old kid who has been the star of every team he's played on since Biddy Ball?

Starting definitely, absolutely, 100% matta.

That's pretty funny, DJO. No excuses or alibis ... I plead guilty!

But at least I didn't say that Nico was only gonna be a bench player because he apparently is the wrong color to start.

Hey, at least you owned up to it.  That's a lot more than I can say about a lot of folks here, potentially myself included.  And props for not being racist, you're definently one of the better ones out there.

[brewcity77]

I do think there is a perception amongst NBA GMs and coaches (and fans) that white players can't be as good as black players that might cause white players to go lower in the draft. In fact, I think Brother Hoopster's post is kind of evidence of this!

The #3 pick in the 2018 draft was white. Did he fall because of that?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

If we're going to start moderating this on scoop, it's gonna get real quiet around here

Is this an opinion?  Can someone get on this so we know for sure?

[LoudMouth]

Did anyone else think that Nico was Sam at first glance here??

[Herman Cain]

If Alex ends up the same size as Giannis....
https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1030025286320971776

[We R Final Four]

Herman saves the day!  unreal.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

If Alex ends up the same size as Giannis....
https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1030025286320971776

No mention of his neck.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So how many white NBA players should have been drafted higher?  As a percentage, is that any different than black players that should have been drafted higher?

The #3 pick in the 2018 draft was white. Did he fall because of that?

I have no idea. But I have heard thought processes about white players not being good enough athletes to make the NBA repeatedly for years. I have never heard the same about black players.

[Lennys Tap]

I have no idea. But I have heard thought processes about white players not being good enough athletes to make the NBA repeatedly for years. I have never heard the same about black players.

When you say you've heard "thought processes" my question would be from whom?

[MU82]

Is this an opinion?  Can someone get on this so we know for sure?

You tickle my funny bone. Fact. My funny bone actually laughed.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

When you say you've heard "thought processes" my question would be from whom?

Well brother hoopster is an example. Pro athletes and talking heads will talk about it occasionally. I remember Jordy Nelson saying in an interview that he is consistently underestimated because of his race.

[Herman Cain]

No mention of his neck.

Feel free to refer back to this link for entire  Antetokounmpo family neck sizes.
https://twitter.com/Ballislife/status/1023206428553748480

[brewcity77]

Well brother hoopster is an example. Pro athletes and talking heads will talk about it occasionally. I remember Jordy Nelson saying in an interview that he is consistently underestimated because of his race.

As Hoopster acknowledged, it's racist. No other qualifier needed. Especially when there's no questioning the athleticism of white Europeans. I really think this doesn't need any further justifications or endorsements.

[4everwarriors]

So, its racist if white athletes are thought to be athletically inferior to black athletes?

[Herman Cain]

An interesting video has some good Michael Foster, 2021 prospect , highlights. Also has some nice footage of Deontay Long , will be interesting to see what happens to him when he gets out of incarceration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb0qzuj6N-c

[forgetful]

If Alex ends up the same size as Giannis....
https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1030025286320971776

Well if we want to analyze his shot, it needs work. 

He is too stiff.  One of the biggest key's to consistency in shooting is to make sure your shoulders stay relaxed...he is stiff as a board, which will lead to inconsistency.

[GGGG]

So, its racist if white athletes are thought to be athletically inferior to black athletes?

Yes.  Anytime you classify people by race, versus their individual ability, it is an example of racism.

[MuMark]

If Mannion isn't athletic he has done a good job of hiding it from the scouts and coaches.

From 247

The newest member of the 2019 five-star crop, Mannion reclassified from the 2020 class and immediately hopped into the top 20 of his new classification as the No. 2 point guard and No. 17 overall player in the 247Sports Composite. Scouts and college coaches alike have become big fans of Mannion's versatility at the point guard position, and his understanding of when to take over. "Mannion is a true point guard who continues to get better," Gershon said. "He has good size, plus athleticism and is highly skilled, as he can handle, shoot, pass and create. Mannion does a good job mixing shooting and creating and is a player who has consistently improved over the last few years."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqIRO58LJPo

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

As Hoopster acknowledged, it's racist. No other qualifier needed. Especially when there's no questioning the athleticism of white Europeans. I really think this doesn't need any further justifications or endorsements.

My argument was never about whether it was racist or not. My argument was that the stereotype exists.