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Herman Cain

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 26, 2018, 12:05:36 PM

Oregon has had a big summer on the recruiting trail?  Hmmm
Or did they sign their talented class the summer after their FF season.

Sorry WW that is a swing and a miss.  We are contending with big time schools with stacked rosters too.  Harder to recruit when schools coming off an NIT than an NCAA like most of the competition. Top 100 kids not really interested in NITs
Try not to get caught up in the rankings.  Remember at one point in his senior year Nick Noskowiak was ranked as high as 49. Sandy Cohen had some rankings in the 60s etc.  Look at who else is recruiting the kid and who we are realistically competing against.

If we continue to recruit each year the way we did with last years incoming freshman class ( 3 solid freshman contributors and one kid with a high ceiling ,all four had offers from high majors ) ,everything will work out. Transfers that balance a class are a big component of recruiting today and we are proven to be capable in that skill.

Our  coaching staff is setting their goals high and each year I have noticed they are going after more athletic and agile players, the type we need to compete in the Big East. It is a positive thing to be in the mix with the top players even if we don't sign them. The good word gets out among players and it helps when we are competing with other similarly situated schools and trying to close the deal with actual sign-able prospects.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

brewcity77

Instead of narrowing his list this week as expected, Nico Mannion added two schools to his list: North Carolina and Kentucky. Ooft.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: brewcity77 on July 26, 2018, 01:39:52 PM
Instead of narrowing his list this week as expected, Nico Mannion added two schools to his list: North Carolina and Kentucky. Ooft.

Coordinated release in consultation with Wojo I'm sure, this will only make it more impressive when he picks MU!

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: brewcity77 on July 26, 2018, 01:39:52 PM
Instead of narrowing his list this week as expected, Nico Mannion added two schools to his list: North Carolina and Kentucky. Ooft.

Yeah...my expectation of landing Mannion went from about 7% down to less than 1%.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 26, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
Yeah...my expectation of landing Mannion went from about 7% down to less than 1%.
The problem with these two schools entering the mix is that they will likely garner 2 of the 5 officials.  To land this young man we need to be on the official visit roster. 

https://www.azdesertswarm.com/basketball/2018/7/25/17615774/nico-mannion-kentucky-north-carolina-arizona-duke-2019-college-basketball-recruiting-offer-commit
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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TedBaxter

I think the writing is on the wall for Mannion. Move on and find someone willing to learn as a reserve guard who can be a starter down the road.
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Herman Cain

Quote from: TedBaxter on July 26, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
I think the writing is on the wall for Mannion. Move on and find someone willing to learn as a reserve guard who can be a starter down the road.
2019 PG Tre Mann has expanded his list also.  So it is not a foregone conclusion that Blue Bloods have Mannion locked up.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/bbmen-recruiting/2018/07/26/iowa-state-basketball-recruiting-tre-mann-sweepstakes-north-carolina-roy-williams/838192002/
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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TedBaxter

#13932
I got a little discouraged when Mannion named 3 schools he would visit, but then said it would be tough to pick the other 2 visits.  If Marquette doesn't stand out to officially visit.........
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on July 26, 2018, 09:14:46 AM
Buzz is down two assistant coaches.  He just lost Steve Roccaforte (associate HC) to ECU (as an assistant coach).  Jeff Reynolds, former DBO at MU, also left earlier this offseason to go to Texas A&M (where Isaac Chew currently is). 

Reading the VT boards, there is a lot of speculation that Buzz will leave after the season. He is supposed to have the most experienced and talented team yet in Blacksburg.  Where have we heard that before?  Someone even speculated that he is the favorite to go to A&M once Kennedy retires.

Ernest Eugene left too.  Buzz off his meds?

wadesworld

Quote from: TedBaxter on July 26, 2018, 07:32:46 PM
I got a little discouraged when Mannion named 3 schools he would visit, but then said it would be tough to pick the other 2 visits.  If Marquette doesn't stand out to officially visit.........

...

TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://www.prepcircuit.com/news_article/show/937354

Nico Mannion article. Says we are still talking to him every day.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TedBaxter

I'm sure they'll stay involved and hopefully I'm wrong about the chances.

Couldn't find anything on Marquette recruiting on Twitter today.  Wojo back in Milwaukee coaching the team in a scrimmage versus the alumni team.

Marquette could sign 2 players, 1 players or 0 players this fall and nothing would surprise me.  Hard for me to judge where they stand with anyone right now.
If You Aren't All In For Marquette Basketball, Move On

Loose Cannon

Quote from: TedBaxter on July 27, 2018, 01:35:54 AM


Marquette could sign 2 players, 1 players or 0 players this fall and nothing would surprise me.  Hard for me to judge where they stand with anyone right now.

Yeah, one of the difficult downsize to having a roster with great depth.
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Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 20, 2018, 02:19:50 PM
Got something to share or just assuming we can't beat out the others in the top 9? I'm certainly not expecting to land Mannion, but I've heard nothing so far to suggest that we've already been eliminated.

No.  I just don't see a top tier PG from AZ who will have his wish list of blue bloods all offer coming to MU.  It ain't gonna happen, so I'm not getting my hopes up. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/07/27/rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid

As someone pointed out earlier, Rocket Watts took down his tweet that list his top 8 almost right away. Since then he has come out and said that was an unofficial list and he is still open to anyone. Not in this article but another one he actually said that he found out that some of his top 8 were no longer recruiting him so he had to rethink his list.

All that being said, I doubt Marquette still has a chance.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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IrwinFletcher

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 27, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/07/27/rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid

As someone pointed out earlier, Rocket Watts took down his tweet that list his top 8 almost right away. Since then he has come out and said that was an unofficial list and he is still open to anyone. Not in this article but another one he actually said that he found out that some of his top 8 were no longer recruiting him so he had to rethink his list.

All that being said, I doubt Marquette still has a chance.

Sounds like someone we want no part of.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on July 27, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
Sounds like someone we want no part of.

Why?  Because a 17 year old changed his mind?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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79Warrior

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 26, 2018, 12:05:36 PM

Oregon has had a big summer on the recruiting trail?  Hmmm
Or did they sign their talented class the summer after their FF season.

Sorry WW that is a swing and a miss.  We are contending with big time schools with stacked rosters too.  Harder to recruit when schools coming off an NIT than an NCAA like most of the competition. Top 100 kids not really interested in NITs

We get it. Move on.

Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 27, 2018, 01:47:28 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/07/27/rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rocket-watts-says-list-remains-fluid

As someone pointed out earlier, Rocket Watts took down his tweet that list his top 8 almost right away. Since then he has come out and said that was an unofficial list and he is still open to anyone. Not in this article but another one he actually said that he found out that some of his top 8 were no longer recruiting him so he had to rethink his list.

All that being said, I doubt Marquette still has a chance.
This really brings up again the topic of what constitutes an offer. I know we had this discussion a few years ago.  While there is a finite amount of resources to spend on any prospect, there is value in hanging around certain prospects as their specific circumstances change based on recruiting market conditions.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Herman Cain on July 27, 2018, 06:56:15 PM
This really brings up again the topic of what constitutes an offer. I know we had this discussion a few years ago.

Yep. Some Scoopers insisted JFB had an offer from Kentucky but signed with us without even setting foot on campus (ours or UK's). Buzz is the best salesman at MU since Al, but he wasn't that good.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 27, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
Yep. Some Scoopers insisted JFB had an offer from Kentucky but signed with us without even setting foot on campus (ours or UK's). Buzz is the best salesman at MU since Al, but he wasn't that good.

JFB did have an offer from Kentucky. This is well documented. As Hermie is pointing out, an offer does not mean what many think it does. That doesn't mean that JFB didn't have an offer from Kentucky.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 27, 2018, 07:53:20 PM
JFB did have an offer from Kentucky. This is well documented. As Hermie is pointing out, an offer does not mean what many think it does. That doesn't mean that JFB didn't have an offer from Kentucky.

So an offer that didn't guarantee a scholarship. I don't consider that an offer.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Lennys Tap on July 27, 2018, 08:00:11 PM
So an offer that didn't guarantee a scholarship. I don't consider that an offer.

Then you don't consider any offer an offer. There is no such thing as a guaranteed scholarship until the NLI is signed.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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