Recruiting as of 4/15/26

[jfp61]

I feel like you are stuck in 2010.

Am i stuck in 2010.

Or are you two just refusing to admit that, shoe culture, and relationships from it still exist and affect recruitment.

And are you doing so under some strange POV that local people want to go to college locally.
 
How many recruitments of Phenom players would our staff do again with 20/20 hindsight... Kinda just Kon. Thats kinda it.

[The Sultan]

Am i stuck in 2010.

Or are you two just refusing to admit that, shoe culture, and relationships from it still exist and affect recruitment.

And are you doing so under some strange POV that local people want to go to college locally.
 
How many recruitments of Phenom players would our staff do again with 20/20 hindsight... Kinda just Kon. Thats kinda it.

No I think that it makes perfect sense for Davis to go to ISU regardless of the shoes they use. They play a great style of basketball in a fun environment and TJO seems like a great guy to play for.

[jfp61]

By contrast, ISU regularly pulls top players out of Wisconsin and has built a better program.

I will say... that this is more of an Anti-Wojo post than anything else

[jfp61]

No I think that it makes perfect sense for Davis to go to ISU regardless of the shoes they use. They play a great style of basketball in a fun environment and TJO seems like a great guy to play for.

My inital point was you didn't need a crystal ball to know he was going to Iowa state.

But apparently I am saying that he is only going to a top 25 basketball program because of its shoes.

[WhiteTrash]

You really think Nike is telling kids playing on Nike AAU teams that they can't go to Jordan Brand schools?  The brand that is...well, part of Nike?

So they're telling Donovan Davis that he has to go to Iowa State over Marquette, but they're letting a MUCH higher profile recruit in Caleb Wilson play at Jordan Brand's flagship program, UNC?

Sure.  I'm buying it.

Facts and simple common sense have no place here. Step aside while agendas are be ranted about.

[wadesworld]

My inital point was you didn't need a crystal ball to know he was going to Iowa state.

But apparently I am saying that he is only going to a top 25 basketball program because of its shoes.

Yes, you have been saying that.  And it's an absurd take.  Nike couldn't lock up Cooper Flagg, who played for a Nike AAU team, went to Nike's flagship program, and yet he signed with New Balance.  Again, this isn't decades ago.  Players will go to whatever school will pay them, and the shoe brands aren't the ones making their payments anymore.

[jfp61]

Cooper Flagg, who played for a Nike AAU team, went to Nike's flagship program.

And this is an arguement againist anything I said?

Phenom primarily sends their guys to nike. They have good relationships with Iowa State.

Predicting Davis is going there is easy.

[wadesworld]

And this is an arguement againist anything I said?

Phenom primarily sends their guys to nike. They have good relationships with Iowa State.

Predicting Davis is going there is easy.

Yes.  The point of shoe companies paying high school players to go to schools within their brand was to get in on them early and sign them to shoe deals if/when they become stars in the NBA.  The shoe brand connection doesn't mean much at all anymore.  Schools themselves are paying players.

And again, Jordan is a NIKE BRAND!

You made a decade outdated argument.  It's all good.  Iowa State has had a great pipeline to high level Milwaukee area recruits.  It has nothing to do with Phenom sending kids to Iowa State because of Nike.

[MU82]

I wish we signed Wisconsin's very best players, even if they play in Chuck Taylors.

[jfp61]

It has nothing to do with Phenom sending kids to Iowa State because of Nike.

Top 50ish Phenom Recruits

Dooney Johnson- Gonzaga
Donovan Davis - Iowa State
Jamarion Batemon - Iowa State
Amari Allen- Alabama
Kon Knueppel- Duke
Milan Momcilovic - Iowa State
Seth Trimble- North Carolina (Jordan, but his older Brother went there)
Leon Bond - Virginia
Patrick Baldwin Jr.- UWM (Adidas, but his dad was the coach)
Tyrese Hunter- Iowa State
Jalen Johnson -Duke
Jaemyn Brakefield- Duke
Tyler Herro- Kentucky

Zero correlation. None.

[wadesworld]

Top 50ish Phenom Recruits

Dooney Johnson- Gonzaga
Donovan Davis - Iowa State
Jamarion Batemon - Iowa State
Amari Allen- Alabama
Kon Knueppel- Duke
Milan Momcilovic - Iowa State
Seth Trimble- North Carolina (Jordan, but his older Brother went there)
Leon Bond - Virginia
Patrick Baldwin Jr.- UWM (Adidas, but his dad was the coach)
Tyrese Hunter- Iowa State
Jalen Johnson -Duke
Jaemyn Brakefield- Duke
Tyler Herro- Kentucky

Zero correlation. None.

It's almost like a majority of the top college basketball program are Nike schools.

Here's the hilarious thing you continue to ignore..

https://www.nike.com/jordan

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Everyone knows that nearly all kids want to play as close to home as possible.  That's why Nigel James chose St. John's, Adrien Stevens chose Maryland, and Royce Parham chose Pittsburgh.

[wadesworld]

Everyone knows that nearly all kids want to play as close to home as possible.  That's why Nigel James chose St. John's, Adrien Stevens chose Maryland, and Royce Parham chose Pittsburgh.

No, those guys all played for Jordan Brand AAU teams.

[TallTitan34]

This has to be a bit.  Do you really not know Jordan is a Nike Brand? 

[willie warrior]

He is going to Iowa State

Oh my. Shaka not getting the job done in recruiting in state kids? Keep trying to reel them in Shaka. Law of averages, aina?

[SchnitzelBoy]

I've never cared enough about the brand-alignment for recruits to look into them but I feel like NIL has likely put a dent in that consideration for recruits.

Geography is also highly subjective. Some kids want to play close to home and others might want to play in cities or where the weather is nice.

[Uncle Rico]

Oh my. Shaka not getting the job done in recruiting in state kids? Keep trying to reel them in Shaka. Law of averages, aina?

Willie dropping this nugget into a thread that is discussing shoes and brand loyalty is pretty awesome, imo

[The Sultan]

My inital point was you didn't need a crystal ball to know he was going to Iowa state.

But apparently I am saying that he is only going to a top 25 basketball program because of its shoes.

You literally said that.

Or you can use your brain and reasonably deduce that the top players at Phenom are likely headed to Nike schools.

[willie warrior]

Willie dropping this nugget into a thread that is discussing shoes and brand loyalty is pretty awesome, imo

Once again, Reeker places small foot into big mouth. This thread is about recruiting and my comment was about recruiting. Reekers comment was made because I live rent free in his mind. Take another sabattical, please.

[Zog from Margo]

Everyone knows that nearly all kids want to play as close to home as possible.  That's why Nigel James chose St. John's, Adrien Stevens chose Maryland, and Royce Parham chose Pittsburgh.

This also shows that MU's recruiting emphasis is primarily out of state. As long as MU wins, I don't really care if the players are from the state or not. I just think it's interesting that MU hasn't landed any of these players. MU has landed some good players from out of state but they've also landed a number that were not nearly as good as some in-state prospects.

[Uncle Rico]

Once again, Reeker places small foot into big mouth. This thread is about recruiting and my comment was about recruiting. Reekers comment was made because I live rent free in his mind. Take another sabattical, please.

Sabbatical

Curious if this is your day account and you have a night account like you're Scoop's Batman?  🤔

[BCHoopster]

Maybe Minessale will help change that situation!  At least MU outbid Iowa St for him!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Sabbatical

Curious if this is your day account and you have a night account like you're Scoop's Batman?  🤔

willie warrior = dopey
williewarrior = bitter

Could be a hoopaloop situation, or just sundowning

[SchnitzelBoy]

I wonder if MU being quiet in the portal is because they're waiting on signing Donovan Davis to reclass him. They're two different kinds of players but it's a roster spot?

If we sign Davis, that would rule. That said, we have such a logjam of 6'7" small forwards on the roster and I don't see Damarius or MPIII getting drafted. Not saying no to that sort of prospect, especially if he can give us real depth at PF

[Viper]

Top 50ish Phenom Recruits

Dooney Johnson- Gonzaga
Donovan Davis - Iowa State
Jamarion Batemon - Iowa State
Amari Allen- Alabama
Kon Knueppel- Duke
Milan Momcilovic - Iowa State
Seth Trimble- North Carolina (Jordan, but his older Brother went there)
Leon Bond - Virginia
Patrick Baldwin Jr.- UWM (Adidas, but his dad was the coach)
Tyrese Hunter- Iowa State
Jalen Johnson -Duke
Jaemyn Brakefield- Duke
Tyler Herro- Kentucky

Zero correlation. None.

one thing is for sure, the state of Wisconsin produces HS talent. Not Phenom guys...and not even a 4 or 5 star recruit by most rankings, but Tyrese Haliburton was damn good. Jordan McCabe another that had game.  I find it perplexing that MU didn't get even one from your list. (I do think we'll pick up one of Kon's brothers, however)