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warriors141

Quote from: wadesworld on May 02, 2026, 08:09:08 AMYeah that's why this year's NCAA Tournament set viewership records.

I see this a lot but one year is not a pattern. This could have been randomness, the fact that it was a historically talented freshman class, etc. we will see if this holds in the future

wadesworld

Quote from: warriors141 on May 02, 2026, 11:30:05 AMI see this a lot but one year is not a pattern. This could have been randomness, the fact that it was a historically talented freshman class, etc. we will see if this holds in the future

Let me know when viewership has a downward trend on college basketball and football. Then I'll consider it might be in trouble. The reality is the opposite is continuing.

Shooter McGavin

The only thing I can think of that would truly lower viewership IMO would be if it became a glorified conference tournament with only the power 4. 

I would watch that as often as I watch the Big Ten or SEC tournaments, which is very little. 

Part of the reason the NCAA tournament means so much to so many people is the thought that in the right year under the right circumstances "my team" could win it all or go to a sweet sixteen.  Or even simply make the tournament.  Whether it's reality or not is a different conversation.  It's perception that counts. 

Shrinking the tournament to 80 teams would make it interesting to only those team's fans. Instead of growing the game it would shrink it.

Hopefully that will never happen.  Would never want MU on the outside of that scenario. 
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MU82

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on May 02, 2026, 01:17:58 PMThe only thing I can think of that would truly lower viewership IMO would be if it became a glorified conference tournament with only the power 4. 

I would watch that as often as I watch the Big Ten or SEC tournaments, which is very little. 

Part of the reason the NCAA tournament means so much to so many people is the thought that in the right year under the right circumstances "my team" could win it all or go to a sweet sixteen.  Or even simply make the tournament.  Whether it's reality or not is a different conversation.  It's perception that counts. 

Shrinking the tournament to 80 teams would make it interesting to only those team's fans. Instead of growing the game it would shrink it.

Hopefully that will never happen.  Would never want MU on the outside of that scenario. 

Maybe. But that's pretty much exactly what the college football playoff system is ... and it is immensely popular. I have no rooting interest in any team (except for whoever is playing Notre Dame on a given day), yet I watch the CFP.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on May 02, 2026, 01:17:58 PMThe only thing I can think of that would truly lower viewership IMO would be if it became a glorified conference tournament with only the power 4.

They won't do that. More likely go to 64, include mostly P4 and Big East, then take a handful (10-15) conference champs and prominent mids like Gonzaga and others from the A10, P12, Mountain West, etc. A team like Miami Ohio probably would've gotten a shot. They'd want a patina of legitimacy without significantly diluting their earnings.

Jay Bee

Quote from: wadesworld on May 02, 2026, 08:09:08 AMYeah that's why this year's NCAA Tournament set viewership records.

It was only up because of high gas prices. People wanted to sit at home and watch TV vs. losing their entire life savings driving somewhere.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 02, 2026, 01:43:21 PMIt was only up because of high gas prices. People wanted to sit at home and watch TV vs. losing their entire life savings driving somewhere.

I don't even drive even more. When people asked, "How did you get here?" I say, "I ran."

WellsstreetWanderer

People adapt just like they did under the previous administration when gas was even higher and our strategic stockpile was sold off

tower912

In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
Matthew 25: 31-46

Jables1604

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 02, 2026, 02:46:54 PMPeople adapt just like they did under the previous administration when gas was even higher and our strategic stockpile was sold off
And I'm sure you gave the same deference to Sleepy Joe when the gas prices increased.

tower912

We need to recruit posters who leave politics in the Iran war thread.
In honor of Pope Leo XIV,
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 02, 2026, 02:46:54 PMPeople adapt just like they did under the previous administration when gas was even higher and our strategic stockpile was sold off

Promises made, promises kept
It's only a few pennies

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 02, 2026, 01:48:51 PMI don't even drive even more. When people asked, "How did you get here?" I say, "I ran."

I've been driving more.  EV snob w/solar on my roof.

MU82

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on May 02, 2026, 02:46:54 PMPeople adapt just like they did under the previous administration when gas was even higher and our strategic stockpile was sold off

That spike in gas prices was due to the Russia-Ukraine war. You know, the one some lying twat boasted 5,339 times that he'd end on "Day 1."
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:12:59 PMThat spike in gas prices was due to the Russia-Ukraine war. You know, the one some lying twat boasted 5,339 times that he'd end on "Day 1."

I'm in total agreement with the exception of your arithmetic.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:12:59 PMThat spike in gas prices was due to the Russia-Ukraine war. You know, the one some lying twat boasted 5,339 times that he'd end on "Day 1."

I'm pretty sure that war would have been ended if Zelensky had dressed up when visiting the Oval Office
It's only a few pennies

Jay Bee

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:12:59 PMThat spike in gas prices was due to the Russia-Ukraine war. You know, the one some lying twat boasted 5,339 times that he'd end on "Day 1."

^ban

Just disturbing. No wonder we have so many trans resorting to violence.
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muwarrior69

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:47:54 AMI remember when freshman eligibility was going to ruin college basketball. And then the 3-point line and shot clock were going to ruin college basketball. And then expanding the tournament to 64 teams was going to ruin college basketball.

It sure has been ruined a lot!
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The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 07:39:15 AMI think teams/University should be allowed to trade players. The trading deadline in-season would be February 1 and of course in the off season. If they do it in the pros why not college?

Cool.
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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:10:11 AMCool.

I'm in as long as we can also trade bball forum members.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 10:12:59 PMThat spike in gas prices was due to the Russia-Ukraine war. You know, the one some lying twat boasted 5,339 times that he'd end on "Day 1."

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on May 02, 2026, 10:15:48 PMI'm in total agreement with the exception of your arithmetic.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 06:14:40 AMI'm pretty sure that war would have been ended if Zelensky had dressed up when visiting the Oval Office

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 06:27:12 AMJust disturbing. No wonder we have so many trans resorting to violence.

Keep this crap off this thread.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: MU82 on May 02, 2026, 01:22:14 PMMaybe. But that's pretty much exactly what the college football playoff system is ... and it is immensely popular. I have no rooting interest in any team (except for whoever is playing Notre Dame on a given day), yet I watch the CFP.

But we knew that we had no football team going to MU as students.  Much easier to be a fan of the current state of football from that perspective.  Even students from schools with football teams from lower conferences were rarely if ever in the hunt for a NC.

Not the case for 100 years of basketball.  Non football and non football powerhouse schools win the title, go to the final four and have experienced success in other ways in the tournament.  Again just making it is good enough for some of these fan bases. 

Taking that away would have an impact for many fans.  I know the NCAA would thrive in a different way.  Some of the meaning would go away however.  I don't fill out brackets for the Big Ten tournament and would likely not for a glorified conference NC either.
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Shooter McGavin

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 02, 2026, 01:31:26 PMThey won't do that. More likely go to 64, include mostly P4 and Big East, then take a handful (10-15) conference champs and prominent mids like Gonzaga and others from the A10, P12, Mountain West, etc. A team like Miami Ohio probably would've gotten a shot. They'd want a patina of legitimacy without significantly diluting their earnings.


Hope you are right that the Big East would be included.
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romey

I used to be a die hard NBA fan.  Not so much anymore.  And I can tell you it's because how much the game has changed.  Some would argue the game is better.  I would not.  Unfortunately, the changes NIL and the transfer portal bring to college hoops, makes the game more like the NBA.  Just my personal opinion and I know a lot of people that would tend to agree.  Even if many scoopers do not.

brewcity77

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 11:38:24 AMHope you are right that the Big East would be included.

Would depend on the next president, but Val did a good job getting us a seat at the table and you can't really leave out the conference that won 4 of the last 10 titles. Not sure we'd be treated as an equal, but we'd have a seat at the table.

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