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TedBaxter

Quote from: Tha Hound on May 31, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
Seems like a Wrightsil-level move

Naveh just turned 18 years old a month ago and at least in some game videos, Naveh has shown the ability to shoot 3's.
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LAZER

Quote from: Tha Hound on May 31, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
Seems like a Wrightsil-level move
Seems like more of a Gold-level move

brewcity77

Quote from: Tha Hound on May 31, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
Seems like a Wrightsil-level move

Hard to say. Could be someone at a Gold level, who's ready to contribute a few minutes off the bench, or someone like O-Max who needs a year or two to adjust, or someone like Benn Mathurin who is a high-major starter from day one.

JTJ3

Looks like a good athlete at 6'7 with good form on his jumper based on the video on twitter.  Wouldnt be shocked if he could play a few minutes as a backup 3/4 so Gold can play more 5.

The Sultan

Shaka's so good he's even revived the Israeli pipeline that has worked so well for us in the past.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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jfp61

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 31, 2023, 12:10:23 PM
Hard to say. Could be someone at a Gold level, who's ready to contribute a few minutes off the bench, or someone like O-Max who needs a year or two to adjust, or someone like Benn Mathurin who is a high-major starter from day one.

He is very good off ball at cutting. He is a decent corner three shooter. He has the athletic ability to do the rest but it needs work.

I'm in, this makes way more sense than transfers for a backup 5 man. Look at the NBA.

In the finals are the Denver Nuggets, and the Miami Heat. Their backup 5s are DeAndre Jordan (playing 3mpg), and Cody Zeller (playing 9.2 mpg).

Just play small.

It might take him until his second year, but who cares. I typically takes two years for transfers, it defiantly takes two years for freshmen.

Jay Bee

Quote from: jfp61 on May 31, 2023, 02:00:35 PM
it defiantly takes two years for freshmen.

Why they gotta be so defiant tho?!?!
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4everwarriors

Naveh appears to be a perfect redshirt candidate, aina?
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PointWarrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 31, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
Naveh appears to be a perfect redshirt candidate, aina?

only if shaka adopts him to save a roster spot

MU82

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Quote from: brewcity77 on May 31, 2023, 12:10:23 PM
Hard to say. Could be someone at a Gold level, who's ready to contribute a few minutes off the bench, or someone like O-Max who needs a year or two to adjust, or someone like Benn Mathurin who is a high-major starter from day one.

I'm OK if he any of the above.

avid1010

Quote from: jfp61 on May 31, 2023, 02:00:35 PM
He is very good off ball at cutting. He is a decent corner three shooter. He has the athletic ability to do the rest but it needs work.
How do you know this?

jfp61

Quote from: avid1010 on May 31, 2023, 04:19:01 PM
How do you know this?
How did come to this assessment? A handful of minutes of highlights, and combined with watching a 1 full game at 1.5 speed, scanning for when he was on the court. It took a grand total of 20minutes. Was able to do it while eating lunch today. He played in the Adidas Next Generation Tournament. It is basically the "youth champions league" tournament that take place for 8 of the best U-18 European club programs. It was significantly easier to watch him play than it ever was to watch ben gold play.

Minutes of watching him combined with how well Wake Forest has been run as of late, and how well they did with identifying Bobi last year makes me optimistic about him, but he needs still needs work.

I could be wrong, but i made a 3 sentence assessment of him.

The Equalizer


Just saw that UNC might be the beneficiary of two of their 2024 recruits reclassifying to 2023:
https://tarheelswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/06/two-tar-heels-listed-as-reclassification-candidates/

Given the current and projected MU scholarship situation, it might be ideal to fill the current openings with reclassified 2024 recruits. Does anyone know if Owens or Parham are eligible as 2023 recruits?

jfp61

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 31, 2023, 05:46:40 PM
Just saw that UNC might be the beneficiary of two of their 2024 recruits reclassifying to 2023:
https://tarheelswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/06/two-tar-heels-listed-as-reclassification-candidates/

Given the current and projected MU scholarship situation, it might be ideal to fill the current openings with reclassified 2024 recruits. Does anyone know if Owens or Parham are eligible as 2023 recruits?

Parham is still 16 so.. i doubt it. Owens no idea. I personally don't like reclassifications.

Jay Bee

Quote from: jfp61 on May 31, 2023, 06:18:17 PM
Parham is still 16 so.. i doubt it. Owens no idea. I personally don't like reclassifications.

Worked for Markus, aina
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jfp61

#34342
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 31, 2023, 06:20:59 PM
Worked for Markus, aina

It did. Could have been better for MU's defense is there was one less year of Howard and Rowsey overlap. It didn't work for Symir.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-basketball-assessing-recent-history-of-reclassification--189815813/

Quick list using this 247 list.

Worked for
Markus Howard , Jalen Duran, Kira Lewis, Jonathan Kuminga (who went to the G League), Shaedon Sharpe (who didn't play),  Josh Primo (until he literally exposed himself)

Didn't Work for
GG Jackson, Emoni Bates, N'Faly Dante, Khristian Lander, Enoch Boakye, Jonathan Aku, Addison Patterson, Meechie Johnson, Joey Baker, Devin Askew, Justice Williams, Chris Smith, Carter Whitt, A.J. Lawson  and Ashton Hagans.




The Sultan

I think the fact that Symir isn't a high level player is more of a problem than his reclassification was.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: jfp61 on May 31, 2023, 06:33:22 PM
It did. Could have been better for MU's defense is there was one less year of Howard and Rowsey overlap. It didn't work for Symir.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-basketball-assessing-recent-history-of-reclassification--189815813/

Quick list using this 247 list.

Worked for
Markus Howard , Jalen Duran, Kira Lewis, Jonathan Kuminga (who went to the G League), Shaedon Sharpe (who didn't play),  Josh Primo (until he literally exposed himself)

Didn't Work for
GG Jackson, Emoni Bates, N'Faly Dante, Khristian Lander, Enoch Boakye, Jonathan Aku, Addison Patterson, Meechie Johnson, Joey Baker, Devin Askew, Justice Williams, Chris Smith, Carter Whitt, A.J. Lawson  and Ashton Hagans.

Joey Hauser?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 31, 2023, 08:49:15 PM
Joey Hauser?
Who?


Seriously, I believe he started 1 semester early to rehab. Actual playing career started on time, not early.

The Equalizer

Quote from: jfp61 link=topic=48207.msg1554343#msg1554343 date=
It did. Could have been better for MU's defense is there was one less year of Howard and Rowsey overlap. It didn't work for Symir.

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/college-basketball-assessing-recent-history-of-reclassification--189815813/

Quick list using this 247 list.

Worked for
Markus Howard , Jalen Duran, Kira Lewis, Jonathan Kuminga (who went to the G League), Shaedon Sharpe (who didn't play),  Josh Primo (until he literally exposed himself)

Didn't Work for
GG Jackson, Emoni Bates, N'Faly Dante, Khristian Lander, Enoch Boakye, Jonathan Aku, Addison Patterson, Meechie Johnson, Joey Baker, Devin Askew, Justice Williams, Chris Smith, Carter Whitt, A.J. Lawson  and Ashton Hagans.

I think the motivations of many of those on your "didn't work" list are questionable--how many were guys only intended on spending a year in college anyway and thought they could get away with earning a paycheck a year earlier. I don't think that's the case for either of MU's 2024 recruits.

Plus, the situation might be ideal at Marquette.

The roster is already loaded, so you could even afford to redshirt. Get access to MU's weight room, learn the playbook, learn MU's system in practice, get used to academic life, recruit NIL partners, etc. Got to be better than spending another year in HS. 

And if it turns out MU isn't able to use those scholarships, at least they aren't going to waste.

jfp61

Quote from: The Equalizer on May 31, 2023, 09:13:56 PM
I think the motivations of many of those on your "didn't work" list are questionable--how many were guys only intended on spending a year in college anyway and thought they could get away with earning a paycheck a year earlier. I don't think that's the case for either of MU's 2024 recruits.

Plus, the situation might be ideal at Marquette.

The roster is already loaded, so you could even afford to redshirt. Get access to MU's weight room, learn the playbook, learn MU's system in practice, get used to academic life, recruit NIL partners, etc. Got to be better than spending another year in HS. 

And if it turns out MU isn't able to use those scholarships, at least they aren't going to waste.

All of the recruits on that list are of a similar top 40ish tier in their initial classes. Additionally those success were 5 stars and Markus.

A Marquette assistant could make 1 phone call to a nice prep school with 90% of the resource Marquette has in at any moment in time. That way our recruits would actually get to play basketball. Let the recruits have live reps. Development isn't linear.

They'll likely use at least one of the scholarships anyways. Give the other one to a walkon for a semester. It really doesn't aid their prep as much as people think it does.

jfp61


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