Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[MU82]

Maybe we should pump the brakes on who is going to be getting major minutes next year. I was repeatedly told that Sean Jones was going to be getting big minutes - might even start - by some here, and that Chase Ross could be a redshirt candidate. Instead it is looking like Ross is the one who is going to be making the largest impact as a freshman. Though admittedly there are MANY games left to play.

Yep Yep.

Yes, but we will potentially be returning our entire back court, plus our two guards off the bench, plus Ellis off a red-shirt.  To many unknowns right now that will get sorted in the next 10+ months before Norman plays his first game.

We'll see who returns, who doesn't, and who earns what playing time. Trust our coach -- he's been at it for 14 years, plus 6 years as an assistant. He just might know what he's doing!

[GoldenEagles03]

Yes, but we will potentially be returning our entire back court, plus our two guards off the bench, plus Ellis off a red-shirt.  To many unknowns right now that will get sorted in the next 10+ months before Norman plays his first game.

I agree with that.  That's why I'm so highly interested in how the minutes will be distributed.

There are 200 minutes per game available.  Right now Marquette's core 9 are averaging 200.8 (due to 3 OT periods).  All 9 can and may return.  Norman is going to get significant run so it is possible every players minutes will be down a couple next year.

Current Minutes Distribution
Kolek- 31.3
Kam- 30.8
Stevie- 22.8
OMax- 28.5
Oso- 30.7

Joplin- 19.3
Ross- 16.8
Jones- 12.9
Gold- 7.7

For now I'll just enjoy this year, but just putting it out there that next years team has the potential to be something serious.

[Its DJOver]

I agree with that.  That's why I'm so highly interested in how the minutes will be distributed.

There are 200 minutes per game available.  Right now Marquette's core 9 are averaging 200.8 (due to 3 OT periods).  All 9 can and may return. Norman is going to get significant run so it is possible every players minutes will be down a couple next year.

Current Minutes Distribution
Kolek- 31.3
Kam- 30.8
Stevie- 22.8
OMax- 28.5
Oso- 30.7

Joplin- 19.3
Ross- 16.8
Jones- 12.9
Gold- 7.7

For now I'll just enjoy this year, but just putting it out there that next years team has the potential to be something serious.

Nobody should get minutes just to get minutes, everything should be earned.  If Norman can earn them, great, put penciling him in for "significant run" right now seems extremely pre-mature.

[jfp61]

Don't get me wrong, I love Oso...

...but are NBA guys in the 2020s really interested in a 6'9" center who hasn't shown any sort of outside shot?

Does draymond green just not exist in peoples minds? He is 6'7" and cant shoot.

Every big shaka had at texas couldn't shoot. They Jarrett Allen, Mo Bamba, Jericho Sims, Jaxson Hayes, Kai Jones (the only one you could argue shot well). (Greg brown was a 4)

Until Oso stops being the best player on this team, Marquette's success is tied to his draft success. He is the best defensive player and second best offensive player.

He has one of the best assist to turnover ratios among all bigs, he might be the best dribble in college basketball over 6'8".The only two forwards who compare to him in college right now, in my eyes are Trace Jackson-Davis (though worse dribbler) and Jalen Wilson. Those two will both get drafted.

I don't know if he gets drafted. He probably declares for the draft no matter what. And i think he might have a degree at the end of the year.

[jfp61]

Oso's NLI money will be better then Europe low leagues, until he adds an outside shot, lets say a 15 footer, best to stay in school.

There is the factor this years back of the draft is likely a little weak so i am a little more nervous he might get picked, but i tend to agree with you.

I just isn't out of the question that Oso shoots it a tiny bit well in some work outs and then is a clear better prospect than Trayce Jackson-Davis,  Oscar Tshiebwe, Baylor Schiermann, and like DaRon Holmes.

[We R Final Four]

Oso's NLI money will be better then Europe low leagues, until he adds an outside shot, lets say a 15 footer, best to stay in school.

More likely in this offense that Oso adds a 3 to his repertoire than a 15' jumper.
Dunks and 3s........limit the 15' jumpers.

[The Sultan]

Sean Jones is a 5'9" point guard only, getting 13 minutes per game behind the best point guard in the conference.

Tre Norman is a 6'3" combo-guard that can play 1-3.

Sean Jones didn't shrink before the season began, and we knew Tyler was going to be here too.  My point is that making solid projections on such things months before they even make it to campus oftentimes look foolish when the season actually begins.

[The Sultan]

There are more professional leagues than just the NBA.  Oso will be in the mix for a 2 way contract or quality foreign league at the least.

Who leaves college early to go to the European leagues?

[DoctorV]

Maybe we should pump the brakes on who is going to be getting major minutes next year. I was repeatedly told that Sean Jones was going to be getting big minutes - might even start - by some here, and that Chase Ross could be a redshirt candidate. Instead it is looking like Ross is the one who is going to be making the largest impact as a freshman. Though admittedly there are MANY games left to play.

And the season before it was widely expected that Kam Jones was going to be the weakest of that class, and he's now one of Marquettes best players as a sophomore.
You just never know with these things until they step foot on campus and the coaches get ahold of em

[DoctorV]

Oso's NLI money will be better then Europe low leagues, until he adds an outside shot, lets say a 15 footer, best to stay in school.

This angle of Oso keeps popping up.

Problem is, this coaching staff hates 15 footers

[The Sultan]

For now I'll just enjoy this year, but just putting it out there that next years team has the potential to be something serious.

I'm sure you'll find a reason to revert to your Eeyore state-of-mind before the season begins though.

[The Sultan]

This angle of Oso keeps popping up.

Problem is, this coaching staff hates 15 footers

They are running one of the most efficient offenses in the country, and some people are suggesting that our big man needs to develop a mid-range game.

For a league that has little use for a mid-range game at all these days...

[Galway Eagle]

Who leaves college early to go to the European leagues?

I don't think Bailey was leaving to go to the NBA

Also Niv Berkowitz

[The Sultan]

I don't think Bailey was leaving to go to the NBA

Sure...I guess Bailey. Although I got the impression he was disgruntled.

[avid1010]

They are running one of the most efficient offenses in the country, and some people are suggesting that our big man needs to develop a mid-range game.

For a league that has little use for a mid-range game at all these days...

Yup.  From an MU defensive standpoint...we want other teams to take mid-range shots...

[Silkk the Shaka]

I don't think Bailey was leaving to go to the NBA

Also Niv Berkowitz

Hadn't thought about Brendan Bailey in forever, looks to be having some success in Europe although I have no idea what level this team or league is

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/178607/brendan-bailey

[SaveOD238]

They are running one of the most efficient offenses in the country, and some people are suggesting that our big man needs to develop a mid-range game.

For a league that has little use for a mid-range game at all these days...

For this MU season, I don't think Oso needs a midrange game or a 3 in his repertoire.

For his potential NBA future he does.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Who leaves college early to go to the European leagues?

I mean, I think very few go specifically to go to the European leagues, but I think there are plenty who go knowing that if they don't stick to an NBA team they will still make a good living in the European leagues (or other international leagues).

[GoldenEagles03]

I'm sure you'll find a reason to revert to your Eeyore state-of-mind before the season begins though.

That's the exact opposite of my viewpoint.  I choose to see the potential rather than settling for where we are.  Being critical and/or cautious, doesn't make me eeyore.  I just think there is so much talent in the room that they can be so much better than they've been at executing against good teams, but see it as you will.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That's the exact opposite of my viewpoint.  I choose to see the potential rather than settling for where we are.  Being critical and/or cautious, doesn't make me eeyore.

Predicting a loss to Georgia Tech and acting like anyone who didn't agree with you was being unreasonable is pretty Eeyore like.

I just think there is so much talent in the room that they can be so much better than they've been at executing against good teams, but see it as you will.

They're 12 points away from being undefeated and with the exception of Nova have blown out every team they've beaten. They are executing very well.

[PGsHeroes32]

That's the exact opposite of my viewpoint.  I choose to see the potential rather than settling for where we are.  Being critical and/or cautious, doesn't make me eeyore.  I just think there is so much talent in the room that they can be so much better than they've been at executing against good teams, but see it as you will.

As TAMU stated, you literally thought we were going to lose to GT.

thats a negligent level of basketball incompentence and irrational critic.

[avid1010]

For this MU season, I don't think Oso needs a midrange game or a 3 in his repertoire.

For his potential NBA future he does.

Midrange game in the nba is dead...

[panda]

That's the exact opposite of my viewpoint.  I choose to see the potential rather than settling for where we are.  Being critical and/or cautious, doesn't make me eeyore.  I just think there is so much talent in the room that they can be so much better than they've been at executing against good teams, but see it as you will.

Radford is a scary team though.

[jfp61]

For this MU season, I don't think Oso needs a midrange game or a 3 in his repertoire.

For his potential NBA future he does.

The "midrange" part of this just isn't true. 15-19 foot shots represent 5.8% of NBA made baskets, 5.2% of NBA baskets made by forwards and and 3.6% of made shots by NBA centers.

So no. No one takes them. No one wants to take them. When you can dribble and pass at a high level you never should take them.

[GoldenEagles03]

As TAMU stated, you literally thought we were going to lose to GT.

thats a negligent level of basketball incompentence and irrational critic.

It was the 6th game of the season when the team was 3-2.  Big deal. Predictions are guesses.