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wadesworld

Well counting early NBA Draft entrants as a 0/0 is pretty silly. Those guys are huge successes and used all of their college eligibility at Texas with Shaka.

Newsdreams

Quote from: avid1010 on April 28, 2022, 05:28:08 PM
But you've said some ridiculous sh1t in the process...like pointing to the transfers from last summer...
He always has....
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

TAMU, Knower of Ball

We can officially cross off Justin Edwards, the only potential one and done Shaka has gone after since arriving at MU. Cut his list to seven.

https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/5-star-Justin-Edwards-cuts-list-to-six-Auburn-G-League-Kansas-Kentucky-Maryland-Tennessee-Villanova-186860358/
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Newsdreams

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 28, 2022, 10:19:04 PM
We can officially cross off Justin Edwards, the only potential one and done Shaka has gone after since arriving at MU. Cut his list to seven.

https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/5-star-Justin-Edwards-cuts-list-to-six-Auburn-G-League-Kansas-Kentucky-Maryland-Tennessee-Villanova-186860358/
One and done? We didn't want him anyway.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

WhiteTrash

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 28, 2022, 10:19:04 PM
We can officially cross off Justin Edwards, the only potential one and done Shaka has gone after since arriving at MU. Cut his list to seven.

https://247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/5-star-Justin-Edwards-cuts-list-to-six-Auburn-G-League-Kansas-Kentucky-Maryland-Tennessee-Villanova-186860358/
Looking at the list it is clear this will come down to 1. money 2. NIL and 3. $.
I'd play it the exact same way if I were him. 

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 29, 2022, 08:48:49 AM
Looking at the list it is clear this will come down to 1. money 2. NIL and 3. $.
I'd play it the exact same way if I were him.

I don't think Nova is that strong of a player in NIL though maybe the new coach will change that
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Johnny B

their board has said they are starting an nil program. there in on nil

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Johnny B on April 29, 2022, 10:48:23 AM
their board has said they are starting an nil program. there in on nil

Everyone is in on NIL. Not everyone is a strong player in it
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Johnny B

they will be "strong" player

BrewCity83

Despite the "just wait and you'll see" assurances from Broecker, it feels like Marquette has done almost nil on NIL.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

PointWarrior

yeah, just look at all of the Marquette players in the portal this year, MU must have nothing to offer them...

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 29, 2022, 01:36:06 PM
Despite the "just wait and you'll see" assurances from Broecker, it feels like Marquette has done almost nil on NIL.

BrewCity83

Quote from: PointWarrior on April 29, 2022, 02:46:54 PM
yeah, just look at all of the Marquette players in the portal this year, MU must have nothing to offer them...

Do you have any info on what anyone's getting?
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

jfp61

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 29, 2022, 03:04:16 PM
Do you have any info on what anyone's getting?

No, nor should anyone. Nor should that information ever get leaked. Unless you want our third best player to leave when it leaks how much we pay a new transfer in a year where Marquette is ready to contend.

Marquette alums won't pull a John Ruiz.

BrewCity83

Quote from: jfp61 on April 29, 2022, 03:25:25 PM
No, nor should anyone. Nor should that information ever get leaked. Unless you want our third best player to leave when it leaks how much we pay a new transfer in a year where Marquette is ready to contend.

Marquette alums won't pull a John Ruiz.

I'm cool with that.  After hearing about all of the NIL deals being thrown around all over the country, I was under the impression that these were public record. 
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: PointWarrior on April 29, 2022, 02:46:54 PM
yeah, just look at all of the Marquette players in the portal this year, MU must have nothing to offer them...

Our players, except for Justin, wouldn't create any kind of bidding war at this point either.

MU82

Quote from: jfp61 on April 29, 2022, 03:25:25 PM
No, nor should anyone. Nor should that information ever get leaked. Unless you want our third best player to leave when it leaks how much we pay a new transfer in a year where Marquette is ready to contend.

Marquette alums won't pull a John Ruiz.

The players and/or their NIL agents will make this stuff public. There will be few secrets.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on April 29, 2022, 09:44:00 PM
The players and/or their NIL agents will make this stuff public. There will be few secrets.

I don't think any of it is a secret, but I also don't think it will be put on blast by every school either.

I think schools are taking two different approaches. One approach is to get a baseline NIL package that every player gets. Others are getting the biggest packages for the best players and smaller or no packages for the lesser players. Some will do both, have a baseline that every player gets while also throwing more money at the top players. I think we will hear a lot about the big packages and very little about the baseline packages.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 29, 2022, 10:29:58 PM
I don't think any of it is a secret, but I also don't think it will be put on blast by every school either.

I think schools are taking two different approaches. One approach is to get a baseline NIL package that every player gets. Others are getting the biggest packages for the best players and smaller or no packages for the lesser players. Some will do both, have a baseline that every player gets while also throwing more money at the top players. I think we will hear a lot about the big packages and very little about the baseline packages.

I agree the schools won't put NIL terms "on blast." I said players will talk and, especially, their agents will.

Agents want everyone to know what they got their clients because it helps them get more clients. If you read an article and a "source" has revealed an athlete's contract terms, 99% of the time the source is the agent.

As for the rest of your post, that makes sense.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

THRILLHO

Quote from: jfp61 on April 29, 2022, 03:25:25 PM
No, nor should anyone. Nor should that information ever get leaked. Unless you want our third best player to leave when it leaks how much we pay a new transfer in a year where Marquette is ready to contend.

Marquette alums won't pull a John Ruiz.

It's simpler if you all just repeat "I want people to make less money then they would make on an open market so that the college I like is better at sports."
The arguments are really not more complicated than that.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: THRILLHO on April 30, 2022, 12:53:40 AM
It's simpler if you all just repeat "I want people to make less money then they would make on an open market so that the college I like is better at sports."
The arguments are really not more complicated than that.
This can be said for every pro sport, public company, private company, non-profit and government enterprise. You can be talking about basketball or your local streets or the lunch you had yesterday. This is economics 101.

MUDPT


mug644

Quote from: MU82 on April 29, 2022, 09:44:00 PM
The players and/or their NIL agents will make this stuff public. There will be few secrets.

Perhaps the term 'NIL agent' is new and different, but it is still against NCAA rules for student-athletes to have agents, right? Justin can have an NCAA-sanctioned agent to help him decide whether to enter the draft, but players can't have agents while they are definitively still in school, right?

That said, whether it is allowed or not, if schools don't organize NIL for their athletes themselves, then those athletes will look elsewhere for guidance and support. There will be a huge cohort of "agents" willing to help players maximize their potential. How/Will the NCAA oversee that?

MU82

Quote from: mug644 on April 30, 2022, 09:44:30 PM
Perhaps the term 'NIL agent' is new and different, but it is still against NCAA rules for student-athletes to have agents, right? Justin can have an NCAA-sanctioned agent to help him decide whether to enter the draft, but players can't have agents while they are definitively still in school, right?

That said, whether it is allowed or not, if schools don't organize NIL for their athletes themselves, then those athletes will look elsewhere for guidance and support. There will be a huge cohort of "agents" willing to help players maximize their potential. How/Will the NCAA oversee that?

I just googled agents for NIL athletes and was given the choice of numerous links to click on. Here's one, with a "list of agents who have signed college athletes for NIL opportunities."

So apparently it's legal and prevalent. I think I've also read or heard that an NIL agent's cut is considerably higher (by pct) than a regular sports agent's cut is -- something like 15-20% compared to 4%, but I could be misremembering.

https://nilcollegeathletes.com/agencies
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on April 30, 2022, 10:40:14 PM
I just googled agents for NIL athletes and was given the choice of numerous links to click on. Here's one, with a "list of agents who have signed college athletes for NIL opportunities."

So apparently it's legal and prevalent. I think I've also read or heard that an NIL agent's cut is considerably higher (by pct) than a regular sports agent's cut is -- something like 15-20% compared to 4%, but I could be misremembering.

https://nilcollegeathletes.com/agencies
The NIL agent still needs to be registered, and schools are notified of all NIL deals. The % is no different than a "regular" agent. Contracts through teams are pretty set (rookie scale, max contracts etc), so that percentage is low .The money for agents come in the contracts outside of that (commercials, merch deals, etc)

MU82

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 01, 2022, 06:04:25 AM
The NIL agent still needs to be registered, and schools are notified of all NIL deals. The % is no different than a "regular" agent. Contracts through teams are pretty set (rookie scale, max contracts etc), so that percentage is low .The money for agents come in the contracts outside of that (commercials, merch deals, etc)

Thanks for that info, lawdog.
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