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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 01:33:36 PM
So you would take Skyy (who hasn't done anything in College) but not Zeb (who has had limited minutes in College)?

Zeb is bigger with a better jumper.  Seems like a perfect fit alongside the 2 distributing PGs and Kam.

Comparing a HS prospect to a college player is apples and oranges.  I'm more comfortable taking a gamble on the elite HS prospect.  If the HS player doesn't work out right away, you have more time to develop them.

Again, I really liked Zeb as a HS prospect.  I think he has a lot of potential.  I'm just hoping for a more proven player in this year's transfer market.




JWags85

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 12:52:29 PM
Never got a shot at Michigan.

He's was a Top 70 guy out of high school and now he's a few years older, and a few good pounds heavier.  Elite scoring ability.

Also worth noting Zeb was a Beilein guy who stayed committed.  So he was never one of Howard's guys, which could also contribute to his lack of a groove there.  He also missed some time with some mental health concerns, I believe.  Sometimes fit is just not right for a talented player at a program (see Carton, DJ)

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: JWags85 on March 08, 2022, 02:10:34 PM
Also worth noting Zeb was a Beilein guy who stayed committed.  So he was never one of Howard's guys, which could also contribute to his lack of a groove there.  He also missed some time with some mental health concerns, I believe.  Sometimes fit is just not right for a talented player at a program (see Carton, DJ)

Just watching film on both Skyy Clark and Zeb Jackson I think Jackson looks like a much better fit for a Shaka Smart team. Very similar profile to Kam Jones with a bit more bounce.
VIOLENCE!

GoldenEagles03

Zeb was also teammates with Cade Cunningham and Scottie Barnes, so he's always been an elite talent that kind of gets overshadowed by stars around him.

Same thing at Michigan with Dickinson etc.
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JTJ3

There are going to be much better transfers available than Zeb Jackson.  We're gonna need 1 impact transfer at either the wing or 4 spot and it would be disappointing if Zeb Jackson is who we get for that spot.

onepost

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 01:33:36 PM
So you would take Skyy (who hasn't done anything in College) but not Zeb (who has had limited minutes in College)?

Zeb is bigger with a better jumper.  Seems like a perfect fit alongside the 2 distributing PGs and Kam.

Are you Zeb Jackson himself?
Saying you'd rather have Jackson than Skyy Clark, all because Clark hasn't played in college while Jackson has been a complete zero in college....you kinda lose all credibility in this discussion.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: onepostames on March 08, 2022, 02:51:12 PM
Are you Zeb Jackson himself?
Saying you'd rather have Jackson than Skyy Clark, all because Clark hasn't played in college while Jackson has been a complete zero in college....you kinda lose all credibility in this discussion.

I never said any of those things. I am questioning them as someone elses reasoning.  Learn to read.

I also simply said Jackson looks like a better fit, not necessarily that he is better or that I want him more.

He's just everything that Shaka looks for.  An under the radar guy with size for his position, can shoot lights out, and has something to prove. Idk.
VIOLENCE!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 03:09:52 PM
I never said any of those things. I am questioning them as someone elses reasoning.  Learn to read.

I also simply said Jackson looks like a better fit, not necessarily that he is better or that I want him more.

He's just everything that Shaka looks for.  An under the radar guy with size for his position, can shoot lights out, and has something to prove. Idk.

I'd prefer an over the radar guy who wants to be a lottery pick
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brewcity77

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 02:20:53 PM
Zeb was also teammates with Cade Cunningham and Scottie Barnes, so he's always been an elite talent that kind of gets overshadowed by stars around him.

Same thing at Michigan with Dickinson etc.

Are we banking on talent acquisition by osmosis?


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Quote from: Freeway on March 08, 2022, 03:42:25 PM
https://twitter.com/lamarbigs/status/1500855168539054081?s=21

Wonderfully stated.

Rob Phinisee... probably not the best example. Lol. Crybaby crap from Matt pAINTer
The portal is NOT closed.

onepost

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 03:09:52 PM
I never said any of those things. I am questioning them as someone elses reasoning.  Learn to read.

I also simply said Jackson looks like a better fit, not necessarily that he is better or that I want him more.

He's just everything that Shaka looks for.  An under the radar guy with size for his position, can shoot lights out, and has something to prove. Idk.

I was being facetious to stress how odd it is to be hyping a guy who's shown absolutely nothing in 2 years of college hoops, when we can for sure do better in the transfer market.

unnatural carnal knowledge "under the radar".  We've dealt with dogshit play for a decade and now have a proven coach with national cache.  There's no reason we shouldn't be operating at-or-above the radar for guys going forward.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I certainly want Skyy Clark more than Zeb Jackson.

That being said, the only transfer that Shaka landed last season that wasn't "under the radar" was Darryl Morsell. O-Max did nothing at Clemson. Kur was a backup center at Oklahoma. Tyler was ROY in the A-10 but I don't think anyone envisioned him being the Big East assists leader in his first year. The staff has earned at least another year of faith from me when it comes to landing transfers that may not look sexy upon signing.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: onepostames on March 08, 2022, 05:04:08 PM
I was being facetious to stress how odd it is to be hyping a guy who's shown absolutely nothing in 2 years of college hoops, when we can for sure do better in the transfer market.

unnatural carnal knowledge "under the radar".  We've dealt with dogcrap play for a decade and now have a proven coach with national cache.  There's no reason we shouldn't be operating at-or-above the radar for guys going forward.

I guess my point was, it's not like he is some nobody.  He was a Top 70 guy who didn't play major minutes because he was playing for a team that was a 1 seed last year with an older group.  Not uncommon.

Just watching him play it is pretty clear he is an exceptional scorer.  He was a Beilein guy so it makes sense that Howard didn't feel the need to play him. 🤷‍♂️
VIOLENCE!

jfp61

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 05:25:16 PM
I guess my point was, it's not like he is some nobody.  He was a Top 70 guy who didn't play major minutes because he was playing for a team that was a 1 seed last year with an older group.  Not uncommon.

Just watching him play it is pretty clear he is an exceptional scorer.  He was a Beilein guy so it makes sense that Howard didn't feel the need to play him. 🤷‍♂️

Jackson won't go to MU. If he goes anywhere in the big east i would guess butler. Zero relationship to the current staff.

jfp61


GoldenEagles03

Quote from: jfp61 on March 08, 2022, 05:35:43 PM
Jackson won't go to MU. If he goes anywhere in the big east i would guess butler. Zero relationship to the current staff.

He follows

Sean Jones
Oso Ighodaro
Greg Elliott
DJ Carton
Markus Howard
Coach Haynes

on Instagram. There has to be some type of connection including the fact that he liked Marquette enough to have them in his top 7.
VIOLENCE!

onepost

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2022, 05:14:44 PM
I certainly want Skyy Clark more than Zeb Jackson.

That being said, the only transfer that Shaka landed last season that wasn't "under the radar" was Darryl Morsell. O-Max did nothing at Clemson. Kur was a backup center at Oklahoma. Tyler was ROY in the A-10 but I don't think anyone envisioned him being the Big East assists leader in his first year. The staff has earned at least another year of faith from me when it comes to landing transfers that may not look sexy upon signing.

And that's really my point.  Shaka has shown in just one season, at a brand new school he hasn't yet established his culture, that he can land one of the most highly coveted transfers in the market and turn him into a better all-around player than anyone imagined.

Of course you need under-the-radar guys.  To say "unnatural carnal knowledge" that was excessive of me.  I'm just saying we're not some pesky upstart who should rely on under-the-radar talent like Zeb Jackson going forward.  We have a damn good coach, top-10 resources, and should strive to be a destination for some of the top guys most cycles.

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DoctorV

How many times you think someone has told him the skyys the limit?

It seems like Shaka is sniffing around a lot of PGs, I hope that doesn't mean that the ship has sailed for the top 50 pg from Illinois that's visited a few times, his recruitment was looking solid a month or two ago

PGsHeroes32

Anyone who wouldnt want Clark is nuts.

That said, quite the long shot.

My hunch right now is pro
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 08, 2022, 07:01:50 PM
Anyone who wouldnt want Clark is nuts.

That said, quite the long shot.

My hunch right now is pro

Quote from: jfp61 on March 08, 2022, 05:36:21 PM
https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1501339936817139712?s=20&t=NHvj1XdcVAMkwsdRJi26yQ

Skyy Clark said he'd go to college. So that is something i guess

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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2022, 05:14:44 PM
I certainly want Skyy Clark more than Zeb Jackson.

That being said, the only transfer that Shaka landed last season that wasn't "under the radar" was Darryl Morsell. O-Max did nothing at Clemson. Kur was a backup center at Oklahoma. Tyler was ROY in the A-10 but I don't think anyone envisioned him being the Big East assists leader in his first year. The staff has earned at least another year of faith from me when it comes to landing transfers that may not look sexy upon signing.

Kur averaged 17 minutes per game for a Big 12 tourney team.  O-Max played 10 minutes per game for an ACC tourney team.   Not saying they were stars, but they at least had some experience.

Zeb Jackson is a different case.  As I researched his situation a bit more, I see he was injured at the beginning of the year.  After playing in 4 games, he left the team for personal reasons.

And I forgot about the covid rules momentarily, which means he should have 3 years of eligibility, not 2 like I orginally thought.  So he might be worth a flyer, but I'd still wait to see who else enters the portal.

Looks like Jackson visited Butler recently.  I couldn't find any other info about his recruitment.

jfp61

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 08, 2022, 05:44:08 PM
He follows

Sean Jones
Oso Ighodaro
Greg Elliott
DJ Carton
Markus Howard
Coach Haynes

on Instagram. There has to be some type of connection including the fact that he liked Marquette enough to have them in his top 7.

Trust me.... if its a big east school it is butler. One, he visited one school, Butler. Two, Butler has the same staff that recruited him initially. Three, and using your logic, his most recent follows on instagram are the entire Butler team including Butler's strength coach, a manager, and multiple players.

If you are going to look at former recruits.. look at former recruits of Shaka Smart not Marquette University

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