Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[Its DJOver]

Take the L is probably the most annoying thing that gets said on the internet. If you disagree with me, just take the L

Disagreeing with opinions? Sure. Disagreeing with facts and statistics? That's an argument that you can objectively lose.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes

[TSmith34, Inc.]

So, he wanted to foul more, but couldn't because of his knee injury? And that was bad? Or, he was bad because he should've fouled more but didn't? Or, his lower foul rate his senior year was bad because it was different from his first three years?

Things we have learned:

* Whether your foul rate is good or bad is dependent on how many minutes you play
* Players that are more nimble foul more
* A 16% usage rate means the offense runs through you
* If the offense runs through you, your foul rate goes down

I always learn something from Scoop

[JakeBarnes]

Things I learned on Scoop:

Never let a recruiting thread be about recruiting

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Things I learned on Scoop:

Never let a recruiting any thread be about recruiting the title subject

[panda]

Things we have learned:

* Whether your foul rate is good or bad is dependent on how many minutes you play
* Players that are more nimble foul more
* A 16% usage rate means the offense runs through you
* If the offense runs through you, your foul rate goes down

I always learn something from Scoop

Just to clarify - It is my belief that the offense suffered while Theo was on and off the floor with foul trouble because he was a focus point of initiating half court sets. We didn't have another player like him last season so when he was constantly off the floor with foul trouble, our offensive sets in the half court changed and continuity in general suffered. Is that more clear or do you still plan on making things up?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Just to clarify - It is my belief that the offense suffered while Theo was on and off the floor with foul trouble because he was a focus point of initiating half court sets. We didn't have another player like him last season so when he was constantly off the floor with foul trouble, our offensive sets in the half court changed and continuity in general suffered. Is that more clear or do you still plan on making things up?

It has to be the first time in the history of history that someone tried to argue that MU struggled to score because Theo John wasn't on the floor...the latter part itself not being true as he played 26.2 mpg, or 27.1 if you want to take out the DePaul game as you brought up earlier.

It's Ok to admit that you didn't understand, or misunderstood, foul rate.

[Dawson Rental]

Better than Harry Froling?

Gotta consider who'll be coaching him, as well.

[panda]

It has to be the first time in the history of history that someone tried to argue that MU struggled to score because Theo John wasn't on the floor...the latter part itself not being true as he played 26.2 mpg, or 27.1 if you want to take out the DePaul game as you brought up earlier.

It's Ok to admit that you didn't understand, or misunderstood, foul rate.

I don't think it's inconceivable to believe offensive continuity suffered because a starter consistently played inconsistent minutes.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I don't think it's inconceivable to believe offensive continuity suffered because a starter consistently played inconsistent minutes.

I believe you said he was constantly off the floor due to foul trouble. How many minutes do you think a big should play? You believe Theo played limited minutes (26.2 or 27.1 using your DePaul exclusion) due to foul trouble? Here are the bigs for each team in the BE this year that have the most minutes per game:

      MPG
Prov   Watson   27.6
Uconn   Sonogo   27.3
Villanova   Dixon   26.9
Creigton   Kalkbrenner   26.9
Butler   Nze   26.8
Xavier   Freemantle   24.2
DePaul   Ongenda   22.6
Seton Hall   Obiagu   20.9
Marquette   Kuath   20.4
Georgetown   Ighoefe   19.3
St. Johns   Soriano   17.7
   AVG   23.7

So again, factually wrong even beyond the laughable argument that MU had trouble scoring when/because Theo was off the floor.

You know, rather than coming up with silly arguments like Theo would have fouled more except he had a bad knee, you can just admit you were wrong.

[tower912]

Start a different thread

[Ardmore Mug]

Start a different thread

PLEASE ! ! !  This is the Recruiting Thread ! ! !

[Lennys Tap]

This has nothing to do with recruiting for next season and beyond.

It's OK if you think it will be easy to replace Kur, Morsell and Lewis. I will respectfully disagree with you, but, as I said, I am hopeful because I have confidence in Shaka's recruiting ability.

It has everything to do with recruiting - past, present and future. Really good coaches who run successful programs replace guys every year that dopey fans think are almost irreplaceable. I assume you would agree that replacing Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal and Dom James was a wee bit more difficult than replacing Kur, Morsell and maybe Lewis. The program not only survived, it thrived. And when Al had to replace Earl Tatum and Lloyd Walton, all he did was win the National Championship.

The goal of every program is to have good players. The better they are, the sooner they leave. The good coaches already have a plan in place or make one on the fly. The bad ones talk about how young they'll be next year and talk patience and "rebuilding".

When we had a bad one, people were always worrying about who we might lose. We don't have that problem anymore. Don't worry, be happy.

[MU82]

It has everything to do with recruiting - past, present and future. Really good coaches who run successful programs replace guys every year that dopey fans think are almost irreplaceable. I assume you would agree that replacing Wesley Matthews, Jerel McNeal and Dom James was a wee bit more difficult than replacing Kur, Morsell and maybe Lewis. The program not only survived, it thrived. And when Al had to replace Earl Tatum and Lloyd Walton, all he did was win the National Championship.

The goal of every program is to have good players. The better they are, the sooner they leave. The good coaches already have a plan in place or make one on the fly. The bad ones talk about how young they'll be next year and talk patience and "rebuilding".

When we had a bad one, people were always worrying about who we might lose. We don't have that problem anymore. Don't worry, be happy.

I'm always happy, Tony!

And sure, it probably was tougher to replace Wes, Jerel and Dom.

As it turns out, it was tougher still to replace Vander and Junior ... went from the Elite 8 to outside looking in!

We Are Marquette!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

https://twitter.com/jestrella_13/status/1487576668877246464?t=qOkC_nIMikFT0z_8wxT4Vg&s=19

New 2023 offer

[THRILLHO]

https://twitter.com/jestrella_13/status/1487576668877246464?t=qOkC_nIMikFT0z_8wxT4Vg&s=19

New 2023 offer

From his Twitter:
Joseph "JP" Estrella (2023)
Height: 6'10
HS: South Portland
Grassroots: Middlesex Magic
Position: Power Forward
Calling Card: Double-Double
Current Offers: Xavier, Boston College, Iowa, Providence, Tennessee, Harvard, Syracuse https://t.co/yytTvwJHDF

[Newsdreams]

https://twitter.com/jestrella_13/status/1487576668877246464?t=qOkC_nIMikFT0z_8wxT4Vg&s=19

New 2023 offer

Why you derailing thread? This is about Theo here...

[JakeBarnes]

From his Twitter:
Joseph "JP" Estrella (2023)
Height: 6'10
HS: South Portland
Grassroots: Middlesex Magic
Position: Power Forward
Calling Card: Double-Double
Current Offers: Xavier, Boston College, Iowa, Providence, Tennessee, Harvard, Syracuse https://t.co/yytTvwJHDF

Plays on TKo's old team

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Plays on TKo's old team

And who can forget the Red Hot Chili Peppers hit album Blood, Sugar, Middlesex Magic.

[nyg]

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/four-star-g-darrin-ames-eyes-return-trip-to-marquette

I presume he is 6foot, but summary paragraph has him at 6ft 3. Listed in other services as 6ft.

With Sean Jones also at 6ft, Shaka seems to be headed for ball handling skills.  But Ames is almost a Top 50 recruit. 

[JakeBarnes]

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/four-star-g-darrin-ames-eyes-return-trip-to-marquette

I presume he is 6foot, but summary paragraph has him at 6ft 3. Listed in other services as 6ft.

With Sean Jones also at 6ft, Shaka seems to be headed for ball handling skills.  But Ames is almost a Top 50 recruit.

He was at the Xavier game. Dai Dai would be a great addition.

[LAZER]

https://twitter.com/jestrella_13/status/1487576668877246464?t=qOkC_nIMikFT0z_8wxT4Vg&s=19

New 2023 offer

Looks like a star

[JTJ3]

Dont care how many PGs we have on the roster already, if Ames wants to commit he's a guaranteed take.  There's a reason he's a top 50 guy.  And our other PGs recruits have not been.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Dont care how many PGs we have on the roster already, if Ames wants to commit he's a guaranteed take.  There's a reason he's a top 50 guy.  And our other PGs recruits have not been.

Previous coach recruited combo guards who can shoot. Shaka is recruiting PGs who go.

[rocky_warrior]

Previous coach recruited combo guards who can shoot. Shaka is recruiting PGs who go.

We just hope they can flush too!