Recruiting as of 4/15/25

[wadesworld]

Wood bee shockin' if Woj didn't make da kut, aina?

Agreed. I'd bet we're in it.

[Uncle Rico]

Agreed. I'd bet we're in it.

Hope so.  That gives us a chance to get a blue weenie post

[Lennys Tap]

Hope so.  That gives us a chance to get a blue weenie post

Blue weenie? Dude!

[MU82]

Can't wait for one of these kids to list his top 40 schools.

Then he could do a countdown, every week eliminating a school until he announces his choice in February.

Oh, the drama!

[BCHoopster]

It is ridiculous that kids think they need to make a Top 10 list, really, I can see Top 3 or even 5 but 10. A list can change as soon as Coach K calls.

[marquette20]

Can't wait for one of these kids to list his top 40 schools.

Then he could do a countdown, every week eliminating a school until he announces his choice in February.

Oh, the drama!

Just saw some football player released a top 50 the other day.

[wadesworld]

The kids should do whatever they want.  They "aren't getting paid" to make the NCAA billions of dollars a year.  If they want to release a top 10 have at it.  Whether that's for bringing a bunch of attention to their social media accounts or because they're a top 20 player who is getting texts, calls, mail, emails, etc. from 300 schools every day and sometimes being contacted by multiple people from the same program and they want to cut 95% of that out of their lives and focus on the schools they'd realistically think about going to, good for them.

[DoctorV]

The kids should do whatever they want.  They "aren't getting paid" to make the NCAA billions of dollars a year.  If they want to release a top 10 have at it.  Whether that's for bringing a bunch of attention to their social media accounts or because they're a top 20 player who is getting texts, calls, mail, emails, etc. from 300 schools every day and sometimes being contacted by multiple people from the same program and they want to cut 95% of that out of their lives and focus on the schools they'd realistically think about going to, good for them.

Yea it didn't make much sense to me until I remembered that these kids literally get hammered with mail/texts/calls/social media messages. I was in high school with Alando Tucker (UW AA) and in home room he would be handed stacks of mail daily from Universities recruiting him. I remember Huggins was trying to land him real hard.

That was before the days of HS kids having cells phones with nonstop calls and texts and social media comments. I mean phone battery must be dead by 1pm for these kids, have to walk around with a charger all day.

In that sense, I can really see the value of a top 10 list to these kids really limiting a majority of these useless attempts, being able to concentrate on those that matter.

I think Perez put out a top 10 list and announced like less than a few weeks later he was coming to MU- that a bit goofy I suppose but it made him happy so whatever's clever.

MU will be on Kendall Browns top 10 list, and then again on his top 4/5 list. Hopefully the staff keeps after it and he becomes a gem of yet another class.
One great class is an eye opener, b2b is an elite program building trend

[MU82]

The kids should do whatever they want.  They "aren't getting paid" to make the NCAA billions of dollars a year.  If they want to release a top 10 have at it.  Whether that's for bringing a bunch of attention to their social media accounts or because they're a top 20 player who is getting texts, calls, mail, emails, etc. from 300 schools every day and sometimes being contacted by multiple people from the same program and they want to cut 95% of that out of their lives and focus on the schools they'd realistically think about going to, good for them.

I actually agree with you. Heck, I hope they can find a way to monetize their lists after they start getting paid for NIL.

[DoctorV]

I actually agree with you. Heck, I hope they can find a way to monetize their lists after they start getting paid for NIL.

I agree with many of the points you've made on "free" transfers and the athletes right to choose and the new era in sports, but I don't agree with the payment part.

I don't spent a lot of time looking into it because I don't care enough, but a full ride and the education/experience that comes with it seems substantial enough for college sports. I don't like one "star" athlete (Eg Markus) making a lot of money in college while all other teammates and peers don't, seems like an odd dichotomy. If a 17/18 yo wants to get paid for being amazing at a sport I agree it's his/her right, but they should just join the NBA, D League, Europe etc... There are plenty of options if the athlete is good enough, but not that many will be. Logic just tells me it's better to keep that "Individual" money out of ncaa sports.

I don't have a problem with 17/18 year olds getting paid, heck plenty of 13-15 year olds get paid in European soccer, I just think pro sports is the arena for that, not the NCAA.

[Johnny B]

It is ridiculous that kids think they need to make a Top 10 list, really, I can see Top 3 or even 5 but 10. A list can change as soon as Coach K calls.

Yeah goofy

[MU82]

I agree with many of the points you've made on "free" transfers and the athletes right to choose and the new era in sports, but I don't agree with the payment part.

I don't spent a lot of time looking into it because I don't care enough, but a full ride and the education/experience that comes with it seems substantial enough for college sports. I don't like one "star" athlete (Eg Markus) making a lot of money in college while all other teammates and peers don't, seems like an odd dichotomy. If a 17/18 yo wants to get paid for being amazing at a sport I agree it's his/her right, but they should just join the NBA, D League, Europe etc... There are plenty of options if the athlete is good enough, but not that many will be. Logic just tells me it's better to keep that "Individual" money out of ncaa sports.

I don't have a problem with 17/18 year olds getting paid, heck plenty of 13-15 year olds get paid in European soccer, I just think pro sports is the arena for that, not the NCAA.

Fair enough. Well stated, even though we disagree.

[The Sultan]

It is ridiculous that kids think they need to make a Top 10 list, really, I can see Top 3 or even 5 but 10. A list can change as soon as Coach K calls.

It is ridiculous that adults complain about something so inconsequential. 

[dajudge]

Flurry of local offers tonight...

James Graham, 6'9, Nicolet 2021 picks up Florida State offer. Maryland & Wake Forest offered within week as well

Logan Landers, 6'10, Cedarburg 2021 picks up Texas A&M offer from Buzz

Be curious to see if MU jumps in with either local talent

Per JS Joplin viewing mu very favorably
"Great" relationship with wojo and staff
It would be like "a hometown dream"
MU and Butler pushing him the hardest
Wants to make a decision in next month
But we haven't formally offered yet

[brewcity77]

I don't spent a lot of time looking into it because I don't care enough, but a full ride and the education/experience that comes with it seems substantial enough for college sports. I don't like one "star" athlete (Eg Markus) making a lot of money in college while all other teammates and peers don't, seems like an odd dichotomy. If a 17/18 yo wants to get paid for being amazing at a sport I agree it's his/her right, but they should just join the NBA, D League, Europe etc... There are plenty of options if the athlete is good enough, but not that many will be. Logic just tells me it's better to keep that "Individual" money out of ncaa sports.

I just don't get this line of thinking. We want college to prepare students for the future, but don't want them to learn the lesson that those who excel will be treated differently than those that do not? The valedictorian will get different job offers than the C+ student, grades determine who gets into the more desired programs or grad schools, our entire education system, for better or worse, has been based on merit and yet we don't want merit to play a role here? That doesn't make sense to me.

[Lennys Tap]

I just don't get this line of thinking. We want college to prepare students for the future, but don't want them to learn the lesson that those who excel will be treated differently than those that do not? The valedictorian will get different job offers than the C+ student, grades determine who gets into the more desired programs or grad schools, our entire education system, for better or worse, has been based on merit and yet we don't want merit to play a role here? That doesn't make sense to me.

The valedictorian gets different job offers than the C+ student AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. A superior student will get into more desired programs or grad schools AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. And as it stands right now, the superior basketball player is rewarded with a better job AFTER he graduates or decides to leave school.

I don't have a problem with players getting paid but I don't see the logic in your argument.

[MU82]

The valedictorian gets different job offers than the C+ student AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. A superior student will get into more desired programs or grad schools AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. And as it stands right now, the superior basketball player is rewarded with a better job AFTER he graduates or decides to leave school.

Not necessarily, Lenny.

The best and the brightest in many fields get top-notch paid internships WHILE they are in college. I know when I was at the MU Journalism school, it was huge to get a paid summer internship. They are very, very competitive. I got two but also didn't get one that I wanted. And one of my roommates, an engineering major, got a very nice paid internship with ComEd between his junior and senior years. Neither he nor I were guaranteed to graduate any more than Markus was.

Internships, and there are a lot of them, are an example of the best at their "positions" getting "paid to play," and thousands of students around the country get them every year. Why shouldn't the same be true for the best athletes?

[TedBaxter]

Internships, and there are a lot of them, are an example of the best at their "positions" getting "paid to play," and thousands of students around the country get them every year. Why shouldn't the same be true for the best athletes?

I'm not trying to get into an argument and just asking the question.

Do any of these students who are getting internships go to school on full scholarships (tuition, room and board) and a $500 or so monthly stipend like the basketball student athletes?

[Hards Alumni]

I'm not trying to get into an argument and just asking the question.

Do any of these students who are getting internships go to school on full scholarships (tuition, room and board) and a $500 or so monthly stipend like the basketball student athletes?

[brewcity77]

The valedictorian gets different job offers than the C+ student AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. A superior student will get into more desired programs or grad schools AFTER he or she graduates based on performance. And as it stands right now, the superior basketball player is rewarded with a better job AFTER he graduates or decides to leave school.

I don't have a problem with players getting paid but I don't see the logic in your argument.

Yeah, but classroom performance gets grades which separate winners from losers. High school performance earned scholarships or even admission to the schools. Let's be honest, all these kids know thanks to recruiting services that tracked them since they were in middle school that they are valued differently. Where you got your scholarship, whether for Big Blue, in the Big East, or the Big South tells these kids the way they are valued.

The idea that sheltering them from this concept is realistic or that there should be massive equality when they have already seen that doesn't exist is incredibly dishonest. Unless we're advocating for full on communism all the way up in society as a way to protect these poor, innocent college athletes.

[Lennys Tap]

Not necessarily, Lenny.

The best and the brightest in many fields get top-notch paid internships WHILE they are in college. I know when I was at the MU Journalism school, it was huge to get a paid summer internship. They are very, very competitive. I got two but also didn't get one that I wanted. And one of my roommates, an engineering major, got a very nice paid internship with ComEd between his junior and senior years. Neither he nor I were guaranteed to graduate any more than Markus was.

Internships, and there are a lot of them, are an example of the best at their "positions" getting "paid to play," and thousands of students around the country get them every year. Why shouldn't the same be true for the best athletes?

Mike

As stated, I'm not against paying the players, especially for their likeness. If it produces revenue, they (IMO) deserve a piece of it. I just don't see what students being rewarded with better jobs after graduation because of good grades or students getting summer jobs in their future professions (instead of a summer job in construction or as a lifeguard, say) has to do with it.

[MU82]

I'm not trying to get into an argument and just asking the question.

Do any of these students who are getting internships go to school on full scholarships (tuition, room and board) and a $500 or so monthly stipend like the basketball student athletes?

Well, I know for a fact that the editor of the Marquette Tribune gets a full-tuition scholarship. I doubt she or he gets room and board, etc. And I can't speak for others.

I appreciate the tone of your post, but to me it's beside the fact. Here in America, the top people in their field usually get the spoils. We're all capitalists, and nobody seems to mind that ... except those who mind it for college athletes. Not saying you and Lenny BTW.

[brewcity77]

Mike

As stated, I'm not against paying the players, especially for their likeness. If it produces revenue, they (IMO) deserve a piece of it. I just don't see what students being rewarded with better jobs after graduation because of good grades or students getting summer jobs in their future professions (instead of a summer job in construction or as a lifeguard, say) has to do with it.

It's simply the reality that we live in a merit based society and there's no reason that lesson shouldn't be taught to student athletes since every other aspect of student life since grade school has taught that lesson.

[MU82]

Mike

As stated, I'm not against paying the players, especially for their likeness. If it produces revenue, they (IMO) deserve a piece of it. I just don't see what students being rewarded with better jobs after graduation because of good grades or students getting summer jobs in their future professions (instead of a summer job in construction or as a lifeguard, say) has to do with it.

Lenny

It directly addresses the contention that the top students only get the goods AFTER graduation. All I said was that isn't true.

The best quite often get rewarded, even while they are still students ... unless they are college athletes, in which case the leading scorer in school history doesn't get a penny more than the 13th-best player on the basketball team, and the All-American QB doesn't get a penny more than the second-string offensive guard.

That's about to change, and I think it's A-OK.

[Lennys Tap]

Yeah, but classroom performance gets grades which separate winners from losers. High school performance earned scholarships or even admission to the schools. Let's be honest, all these kids know thanks to recruiting services that tracked them since they were in middle school that they are valued differently. Where you got your scholarship, whether for Big Blue, in the Big East, or the Big South tells these kids the way they are valued.

The idea that sheltering them from this concept is realistic or that there should be massive equality when they have already seen that doesn't exist is incredibly dishonest. Unless we're advocating for full on communism all the way up in society as a way to protect these poor, innocent college athletes.

So, if they were really good in high school they got a scholarship to Davidson. And if they were really, really good they got one to Kentucky. AFTER high school. And if they were really good in college, they were paid to play in Europe. And if they were really, really good they were paid more to play in the NBA. AFTER they were finished with their very valuable scholarship. What this has to do with communism escapes me totally.