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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6375 on: February 27, 2024, 10:38:17 AM »
A long time ago I said we could tolerate only 1 more loss to get a 1 seed (that happened at UCONN).
we'll be a three seed if we lose to CR and UC and don't make the BET final.
Everything else is 2-seed... Providing all other games are wins of course.
Final thought, It does depend on how others play but I got to believe some other 6-loss will play well down the stretch.
I know that worst 1 vs best 2 is nominally important but it would be nice.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6376 on: February 27, 2024, 10:41:42 AM »
A long time ago I said we could tolerate only 1 more loss to get a 1 seed (that happened at UCONN).
we'll be a three seed if we lose to CR and UC and don't make the BET final.
Everything else is 2-seed... Providing all other games are wins of course.
Final thought, It does depend on how others play but I got to believe some other 6-loss will play well down the stretch.
I know that worst 1 vs best 2 is nominally important but it would be nice.

Bolded contradicts the rest of your post.  MU games don't occur in a vacuum.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6377 on: February 27, 2024, 12:13:33 PM »
we'll be a three seed if we lose to CR and UC and don't make the BET final.

No not necessarily.

Final thought, It does depend on how others play

This is correct.

At this point,  Iowa State is the only team I think could leapfrog us if we go 2-2 and make the BET semis. They stumble in their last four and we are probably sitting pretty,  not even accounting for the possibility of another 2 seed falling apart. Maybe Alabama could do it if they win out.  Maybe Duke too but I'm skyrocket they would. Just not enough opportunities for good wins
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6378 on: February 27, 2024, 12:34:34 PM »
I'm not sure how much what others do matter for the 1-seed if we win out. As it stands right now they'd get 6 more Q1 wins in @xavier,  UConn, @ Creighton, @ StJ (likely 7-10 team winner), neutral creighton and neutral UConn. They'd be sitting 12-5 in Q1 with a net in the top ten. Easier said than done, and i haven't crunched the numbers fully, but I don't think Zona or UNC would even have the opportunity for that many Q1. Gotta earn it on the court either way.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6379 on: February 27, 2024, 06:28:54 PM »
I'm not sure how much what others do matter for the 1-seed if we win out. As it stands right now they'd get 6 more Q1 wins in @xavier,  UConn, @ Creighton, @ StJ (likely 7-10 team winner), neutral creighton and neutral UConn. They'd be sitting 12-5 in Q1 with a net in the top ten. Easier said than done, and i haven't crunched the numbers fully, but I don't think Zona or UNC would even have the opportunity for that many Q1. Gotta earn it on the court either way.

If we win out, Arizona has no shot at a 1-seed. UNC or Tennessee would be in the mix with us if they also won out.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6380 on: February 28, 2024, 10:14:01 AM »
I'm not sure how much what others do matter for the 1-seed if we win out. As it stands right now they'd get 6 more Q1 wins in @xavier,  UConn, @ Creighton, @ StJ (likely 7-10 team winner), neutral creighton and neutral UConn. They'd be sitting 12-5 in Q1 with a net in the top ten. Easier said than done, and i haven't crunched the numbers fully, but I don't think Zona or UNC would even have the opportunity for that many Q1. Gotta earn it on the court either way.


We’re also very close to adding 2 more Q1 wins of Nova home and Texas.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6381 on: February 28, 2024, 10:35:27 AM »

We’re also very close to adding 2 more Q1 wins of Nova home and Texas.

The problem is that most of the teams near us are in similar situations.

Colorado and Wash St are close to Q1 for Zona (would add a Q1 win and take away a Q2 loss for them)

NC State is close to Q1 for UNC, and GT is close to Q2 (Would add a Q1 win and move their worst loss from Q3 to Q2)

Kansas has also beaten UT at home and WVU is close to Q2 (Would add a Q1 win and move their worst loss from Q3 to Q2)

Fine margins all around for sure.  ND has solidified themselves as a solid Q3 win (rather than Q4). UCLA is certainly leaving it late if they're actually going to make the jump up to Q2. St. Thomas has slid down to Q4 (man, the margin of victory in that one is really not looking great).

Just gotta let the chips fall where they may.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6382 on: February 28, 2024, 01:29:24 PM »
I just love it that we have a team and coach where we are concerned with our 2 seed and how to potentially get to a 1 vs being on the bubble and worrying about how we make the tourney!!

Love this team and heading up to Milwaukee to watch them throttle Providence tonight.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6383 on: February 28, 2024, 01:54:37 PM »
I just love it that we have a team and coach where we are concerned with our 2 seed and how to potentially get to a 1 vs being on the bubble and worrying about how we make the tourney!!

Amen. Three years ago today MU was fresh off a loss to UConn the previous day and 2-7 in the preceding nine Big East games (including a home loss to DePaul). MU would avenge that loss to DePaul and beat Xavier in Senior Day before bowing out to Georgetown in the first round of the Big East tournament to end the season.

And now we've got fans -- including myself -- who are a little disappointed by the thought of a 2 seed (for a second consecutive year) and a little disappointed with a #5 national ranking. Faced with success that was damn near unimaginable just three years ago, expectations are so high that there is a low-key feeling that this team is under achieving. Holy sh*t, times have changed.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6384 on: February 28, 2024, 01:54:46 PM »
I just love it that we have a team and coach where we are concerned with our 2 seed and how to potentially get to a 1 vs being on the bubble and worrying about how we make the tourney!!

Love this team and heading up to Milwaukee to watch them throttle Providence tonight.

Amen!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6385 on: February 28, 2024, 02:02:40 PM »
I just love it that we have a team and coach where we are concerned with our 2 seed and how to potentially get to a 1 vs being on the bubble and worrying about how we make the tourney!!

Love this team and heading up to Milwaukee to watch them throttle Providence tonight.

This is so true !

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6386 on: February 28, 2024, 04:15:16 PM »
Amen. Three years ago today MU was fresh off a loss to UConn the previous day and 2-7 in the preceding nine Big East games (including a home loss to DePaul). MU would avenge that loss to DePaul and beat Xavier in Senior Day before bowing out to Georgetown in the first round of the Big East tournament to end the season.

And now we've got fans -- including myself -- who are a little disappointed by the thought of a 2 seed (for a second consecutive year) and a little disappointed with a #5 national ranking. Faced with success that was damn near unimaginable just three years ago, expectations are so high that there is a low-key feeling that this team is under achieving. Holy sh*t, times have changed.

Exactly!  Call me a member of COLE, but I'm pretty satisfied at the moment, even if we get a 2 seed.  Where we've come and our new expectations are insane (to our 3 year ago selves)!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6387 on: March 02, 2024, 03:54:13 PM »
I don't see a big move with CR loss. seed same ranking TBA but with KU loss , AZ win , and others holding serve, maybe 8.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6388 on: March 02, 2024, 04:01:56 PM »
I don't see a big move with CR loss. seed same ranking TBA but with KU loss , AZ win , and others holding serve, maybe 8.

I am hoping that most of the voters will know that our two best players were out and that we held Creighton to basically even for 36 minutes, and take that into consideration when they vote.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6389 on: March 02, 2024, 04:59:33 PM »
I am hoping that most of the voters will know that our two best players were out and that we held Creighton to basically even for 36 minutes, and take that into consideration when they vote.

I doubt that they will do that, but "I am hoping" also. I think the voters will mostly look at the final score and knock us down. Considering other factors (beyond road/home win/loss) is probably not something they do.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6390 on: March 02, 2024, 04:59:55 PM »
I am hoping that most of the voters will know that our two best players were out and that we held Creighton to basically even for 36 minutes, and take that into consideration when they vote.

Not likely that very many pay attention to that or care.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6392 on: March 02, 2024, 05:40:34 PM »
I doubt that they will do that, but "I am hoping" also. I think the voters will mostly look at the final score and knock us down. Considering other factors (beyond road/home win/loss) is probably not something they do.

Maybe. But we have gotten a ton of respect from voters all season. I guess this will be a good test of that.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6393 on: March 02, 2024, 05:42:00 PM »
You will be able to tell who watched the game and who just saw the final.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6394 on: March 02, 2024, 05:49:58 PM »
Some of the voters just follow closely enough to know what the personnel situation waw.

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« Reply #6397 on: March 02, 2024, 06:23:41 PM »
You will be able to tell who watched the game and who just saw the final.

Or who played golf instead of watching the game today, like some lowlife golfers here.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 3/4/2024?
« Reply #6398 on: March 02, 2024, 06:39:35 PM »
Probably only drop one spot.

Main ranking that matters at this point is staying ahead of Illinois and Creighton on the S Curve to hold on to Indy, which is no cakewalk.

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