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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/1/2024?  (Read 1096304 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6325 on: February 25, 2024, 06:45:57 PM »
Iowa St and Arizona. We were almost 6 last week so although Iowa st lost to Houston it should be enough to pass them. Arizona lost a home game but they may still be ahead of us. We’ll see I guess.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6328 on: February 25, 2024, 10:58:10 PM »
I doubt we are jumping AZ.  6 is the right answer.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6329 on: February 25, 2024, 11:32:22 PM »
1. Houston
2. UConn
3. Purdue
4. Tennessee
5. Marquette
6. Arizona
7. Kansas
8. North Carolina
9. Iowa State
10. Duke
11. Auburn
12. Creighton
13. Saint Mary's
14. Alabama
15. Illinois
16. Kentucky
17. Baylor
18. South Carolina
19. Washington State
20. San Diego State
21. Dayton
22. Gonzaga
23. Wisconsin
24. Florida
25. Utah State
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6330 on: February 25, 2024, 11:50:53 PM »
1. Houston
2. UConn
3. Purdue
4. Tennessee
5. Marquette
6. Arizona
7. Kansas
8. North Carolina
9. Iowa State
10. Duke
11. Auburn
12. Creighton
13. Saint Mary's
14. Alabama
15. Illinois
16. Kentucky
17. Baylor
18. South Carolina
19. Washington State
20. San Diego State
21. Dayton
22. Gonzaga
23. Wisconsin
24. Florida
25. Utah State

I think USF will sneak into the T-25. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6331 on: February 25, 2024, 11:55:05 PM »
I think USF will sneak into the T-25.

I'm guessing they end up just missing the cut this time. I think Utah State knocking off San Diego State is a lot more impressive than beating UTSA and SMU
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6332 on: February 26, 2024, 01:37:54 AM »
Iowa St and Arizona. We were almost 6 last week so although Iowa st lost to Houston it should be enough to pass them. Arizona lost a home game but they may still be ahead of us. We’ll see I guess.

i agree completely. Obviously Arizona losing at home puts us past them. Iowa State losing at Houston but playing competitively wouldn't sink them along, but to then barely beat a pretty bad West Virginia team on their home core - I just don't see how the old eye test doesn't look at us dominating a much better (than WVU) Xavier team.

I think No. 5 is a pretty sure thing.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6333 on: February 26, 2024, 07:08:17 AM »
We will be 5 again because of the two teams ahead of us losing. That means we will be #5 going into Creighton on Saturday, win that and we will have another top 5 showdown with Uconn but at home this time. We have four games to win out to clinch the last 1 seed. IMO you will never convince me that if we win the final 4 games that N.Carolina/Tennesee/ Arizona have better resumes. I would also expect our net to jump to 6-7 range if we win out. Of course if Tennessee wins out they would be ahead of us but given their schedule I assume they go 2-2
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6334 on: February 26, 2024, 07:23:31 AM »
We will be 5 again because of the two teams ahead of us losing. That means we will be #5 going into Creighton on Saturday, win that and we will have another top 5 showdown with Uconn but at home this time. We have four games to win out to clinch the last 1 seed. IMO you will never convince me that if we win the final 4 games that N.Carolina/Tennesee/ Arizona have better resumes. I would also expect our net to jump to 6-7 range if we win out. Of course if Tennessee wins out they would be ahead of us but given their schedule I assume they go 2-2

Don’t overlook the Providence game. We need to win that one first.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6335 on: February 26, 2024, 09:01:09 AM »
We will be 5 again because of the two teams ahead of us losing. That means we will be #5 going into Creighton on Saturday, win that and we will have another top 5 showdown with Uconn but at home this time. We have four games to win out to clinch the last 1 seed. IMO you will never convince me that if we win the final 4 games that N.Carolina/Tennesee/ Arizona have better resumes. I would also expect our net to jump to 6-7 range if we win out. Of course if Tennessee wins out they would be ahead of us but given their schedule I assume they go 2-2

I like your optimism and agree with this take.

But I’m guessing Tennessee fans would say similar about their chances and would probably say,  “given Marquette’s schedule I assume they go 2-2.”
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6336 on: February 26, 2024, 09:24:58 AM »
Marquette, Tennessee, and Kansas all have tough finishes.  Any of these teams winning out probably get a 1 seed because odds are the others get a loss or two.

North Carolina has an easier finish.  At Duke is the only big hurdle, but that means any other stumble really hurts.  But if UNC wins out, chances are the other teams all picked up a loss or two.  Then UNC is the last one seed.

Arizona could win out.  If all of the other 1 seed contenders lose at least once, then Arizona gets a 1 seed.  But any loss would be very damaging.

If none of these teams win out, the last 1 seed will be wide open.  Conference tournament results will also be a factor.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6337 on: February 26, 2024, 09:37:20 AM »
Marquette, Tennessee, and Kansas all have tough finishes.  Any of these teams winning out probably get a 1 seed because odds are the others get a loss or two.

North Carolina has an easier finish.  At Duke is the only big hurdle, but that means any other stumble really hurts.  But if UNC wins out, chances are the other teams all picked up a loss or two.  Then UNC is the last one seed.

Arizona could win out.  If all of the other 1 seed contenders lose at least once, then Arizona gets a 1 seed.  But any loss would be very damaging.

If none of these teams win out, the last 1 seed will be wide open.  Conference tournament results will also be a factor.

Conference tournament results often don’t matter based on history.  Brew had a piece about a few years ago.  Maybe it matters this year, but I wouldn’t factor it in too heavily
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6338 on: February 26, 2024, 09:40:50 AM »
Conference tournament results often don’t matter based on history.  Brew had a piece about a few years ago.  Maybe it matters this year, but I wouldn’t factor it in too heavily

That's were I am at is well so I choose not to factor that in. For the most part seeds are already determined prior to conference tournaments. If a team performs well and wins it that was supposed to then yes it will move lines from lower seeds ie maybe 9 seed to 6-7. Probably wont move the needle from 2-1 or 3-2. I look at Uconn from 2011 who was probably a 6-7 seed and went to a 3 because it took down  3 top 5 teams in that conference tournament.  If Marquette wins out and then wins its first game in the BET it probably would not matter if they lost the next to a creighton or Uconn.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6339 on: February 26, 2024, 09:44:01 AM »
I doubt we are jumping AZ.  6 is the right answer.

They jumped us after losing our 1st game in 10 tries (on the road at #1 UConn nontheless), I think we should jump them back after a home loss.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6340 on: February 26, 2024, 09:46:58 AM »
Conference tournament results often don’t matter based on history.  Brew had a piece about a few years ago.  Maybe it matters this year, but I wouldn’t factor it in too heavily

I would, especially this year.

Re: brew, I think he’s GENERALLY right, but more recently.. 3/11/23, MU is in the finals and brew again went to this well.. saying while MU fans hope that winning gets to them to the 2, he’s pessimistic ( already voted on, re-scrubbing unlikely, etc.). So, kept them on the 3.

However, MU was a 2 seed.

It mattered.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6341 on: February 26, 2024, 09:54:46 AM »
Brew on selection Sunday last year:

Gonzaga and Marquette remain on the 3-line behind Baylor. While I do feel Baylor might not be as deserving of that spot, the Selection Committee voted the top two lines on Wednesday and historically they don't make changes on Saturday night regardless of results. I would be happy to be wrong and see Marquette (or even the Zags) land on the 2-line, but if I'm making a projection based on their history, I don't think it will change.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6342 on: February 26, 2024, 09:58:37 AM »
I would, especially this year.

Re: brew, I think he’s GENERALLY right, but more recently.. 3/11/23, MU is in the finals and brew again went to this well.. saying while MU fans hope that winning gets to them to the 2, he’s pessimistic ( already voted on, re-scrubbing unlikely, etc.). So, kept them on the 3.

However, MU was a 2 seed.

It mattered.


I think Brew has amended his thinking based on last year and this year's top 16 reveal. It seems the committee does take stock in championships.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6343 on: February 26, 2024, 10:07:42 AM »
Conference tournament results often don’t matter based on history.  Brew had a piece about a few years ago.  Maybe it matters this year, but I wouldn’t factor it in too heavily

On the bubble, it doesn't. But I do think Marquette's placement last year and UNC's spot in the reveal this year show they are using those to differentiate on the top seed lines. They say conference standings don't matter, but I'm becoming convinced conference championships (or tourney championships) do.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6344 on: February 26, 2024, 10:08:54 AM »
On the bubble, it doesn't. But I do think Marquette's placement last year and UNC's spot in the reveal this year show they are using those to differentiate on the top seed lines. They say conference standings don't matter, but I'm becoming convinced conference championships (or tourney championships) do.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6345 on: February 26, 2024, 10:24:47 AM »
I'm guessing they end up just missing the cut this time. I think Utah State knocking off San Diego State is a lot more impressive than beating UTSA and SMU

I get that the computers hate this team and they haven't had a tough schedule but they've lost one game since Dec 2nd.  They've won 19 of their last 20.  Winning isn't easy, even in the AAC.  That coach deserves a lot of credit.  I just think they'll finally be rewarded and get into the polls. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6346 on: February 26, 2024, 10:30:29 AM »
I get that the computers hate this team and they haven't had a tough schedule but they've lost one game since Dec 2nd.  They've won 19 of their last 20.  Winning isn't easy, even in the AAC.  That coach deserves a lot of credit.  I just think they'll finally be rewarded and get into the polls.
FWIW, on the radio this morning they discussed USF and they all really like the team but agreed they are out unless they win the AAC tourney.

If memory serve me right, I think UNLV was Top 25 one year and missed the NCAA.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6348 on: February 26, 2024, 12:02:02 PM »
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6349 on: February 26, 2024, 12:07:27 PM »
How duz ND rank, hey?
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