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Author Topic: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 11/1/2024?  (Read 1096368 times)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6350 on: February 26, 2024, 12:09:07 PM »
Last f#cking place as always!

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6351 on: February 26, 2024, 12:09:31 PM »
Number 5 I like it

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6352 on: February 26, 2024, 12:10:15 PM »
How duz ND rank, hey?
Same as Badgers. Nada.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6353 on: February 26, 2024, 12:22:51 PM »
#5 makes sense.

I thought it was interesting that, despite losing by double digits to St. John's, Creighton moved up 3 spots. Shows how powerful a win over a team as good as UConn can be. Also, Washington State moved up thanks to its win at AZ even though it then lost by 12 to Bobby Hurley's dreadful squad.

Madison's still well out of the rankings and Dayton dropped 5, so that's nice!
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6354 on: February 26, 2024, 12:30:14 PM »
Think it’s funny how most analysts 2 weeks ago were very boldly saying “It is UCONN and Purdue, then everyone else”. Last week it was “UCONN, then everyone else”. Now neither team is ranked number one after getting losing road games. It’s almost like none of that was the case to begin with. Lot of parity.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6355 on: February 26, 2024, 12:34:25 PM »
Think it’s funny how most analysts 2 weeks ago were very boldly saying “It is UCONN and Purdue, then everyone else”. Last week it was “UCONN, then everyone else”. Now neither team is ranked number one after getting losing road games. It’s almost like none of that was the case to begin with. Lot of parity.

I agree with the parity comment. The talking media heads get caught up with the shiny object of the week and need something to talk about. The truth is there are probably 8-10 teams that can win in March, and MU is one of those teams.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6356 on: February 26, 2024, 12:44:03 PM »
Think it’s funny how most analysts 2 weeks ago were very boldly saying “It is UCONN and Purdue, then everyone else”. Last week it was “UCONN, then everyone else”. Now neither team is ranked number one after getting losing road games. It’s almost like none of that was the case to begin with. Lot of parity.

They shouldn't have been excluding Houston...but there is a clear divide between Houston, UConn, and Purdue and the rest of the field. Doesn't mean they're unbeatable but they've separated themselves and will need to completely fall apart to not be the top 3 1 seeds come selection Sunday.

Each of them has three losses. No other P6 team has less than 6 losses. They are literally three wins ahead of every P6 team.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6358 on: February 26, 2024, 12:53:01 PM »
I get that the computers hate this team and they haven't had a tough schedule but they've lost one game since Dec 2nd.  They've won 19 of their last 20.  Winning isn't easy, even in the AAC.  That coach deserves a lot of credit.  I just think they'll finally be rewarded and get into the polls.

So we ended up being both right. Utah State got ranked above South Florida, but South Florida snuck in at #25. I was pleasantly surprised that the voters dropped Wisconsin from 88 votes last week to 42 this week. Their only game was beating Maryland by 4 which was a bad result, but I thought they would move up just because everyone else around them lost. Voters may be smarter than I give them credit for!

Then again....14-14 Arizona State somehow got 17 votes so maybe not that smart.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6359 on: February 26, 2024, 12:54:25 PM »
So we ended up being both right. Utah State got ranked above South Florida, but South Florida snuck in at #25. I was pleasantly surprised that the voters dropped Wisconsin from 88 votes last week to 42 this week. Their only game was beating Maryland by 4 which was a bad result, but I thought they would move up just because everyone else around them lost. Voters may be smarter than I give them credit for!

Then again....14-14 Arizona State somehow got 17 votes so maybe not that smart.
One voter probably mistook them for Arizona

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6360 on: February 26, 2024, 01:01:31 PM »
One voter probably mistook them for Arizona

I thought that too...but he has Arizona #6 and Arizona State #9. The only ranked teams not on his ballot are #21 Dayton, #22, Utah State, and #24 Florida. So unless he tried to rank Arizona twice and clicked wrong the second time....I have no idea how that happened.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6361 on: February 26, 2024, 01:07:52 PM »
So we ended up being both right. Utah State got ranked above South Florida, but South Florida snuck in at #25. I was pleasantly surprised that the voters dropped Wisconsin from 88 votes last week to 42 this week. Their only game was beating Maryland by 4 which was a bad result, but I thought they would move up just because everyone else around them lost. Voters may be smarter than I give them credit for!

Then again....14-14 Arizona State somehow got 17 votes so maybe not that smart.

BAM.  MU is #5.

I occasionally get something right and just had a gut feeling with USF.  :)


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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/19/2024?
« Reply #6362 on: February 26, 2024, 01:49:07 PM »
One voter probably mistook them for Arizona
Or thought they were voting for Danny Hurley?

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6363 on: February 26, 2024, 02:57:47 PM »
They shouldn't have been excluding Houston...but there is a clear divide between Houston, UConn, and Purdue and the rest of the field. Doesn't mean they're unbeatable but they've separated themselves and will need to completely fall apart to not be the top 3 1 seeds come selection Sunday.

Each of them has three losses. No other P6 team has less than 6 losses. They are literally three wins ahead of every P6 team.

It's really obvious when you look just at straight-up records.  The gap between those three and the rest of the field is WIDE.

24-3 (Houston)
25-3 (Uconn)
25-3 (Purdue)
21-6 (literally every team from 4 to 11)
20-8 (Creighton)

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6364 on: February 26, 2024, 03:00:55 PM »
It's really obvious when you look just at straight-up records.  The gap between those three and the rest of the field is WIDE.

24-3 (Houston)
25-3 (Uconn)
25-3 (Purdue)
21-6 (literally every team from 4 to 11)
20-8 (Creighton)

Any normal year 6 losses would never have you in contention for a 1 seed unless you played in the top ranked conferecnce similar to the 2011 Big East. But yes there is quite a dropp off. Doesn't mean those 3 are safe tho come tournament time.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6365 on: February 26, 2024, 03:51:34 PM »
At the end of the day, if we win out in the regular season we will be the fourth 1 seed, which is really all you can ask for if you're a Marquette fan at the end of February.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6366 on: February 26, 2024, 05:39:13 PM »
At the end of the day, if we win out in the regular season we will be the fourth 1 seed, which is really all you can ask for if you're a Marquette fan at the end of February.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6367 on: February 26, 2024, 06:40:40 PM »
At the end of the day, if we win out in the regular season we will be the fourth 1 seed, which is really all you can ask for if you're a Marquette fan at the end of February.

What if Tennessee also wins out the regular season? Same question for Kansas.

We don't control our own destiny for a 1 seed. We will need others to lose.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6368 on: February 26, 2024, 07:28:28 PM »
Realistically getting a #1 will be quite difficult.  But I've gotta tell you when I look at the potential 3 or 4 seeds, I see very little that distinguishes these teams.  I think the weakest of the lot is Duke. 

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6369 on: February 27, 2024, 12:51:15 AM »
The 8 Teams ranked between #4 and #11 all have the same 21-6 records

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6370 on: February 27, 2024, 04:44:04 AM »
Just win out. Quality wins against Creighton and UConn will speak volumes.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6371 on: February 27, 2024, 05:24:11 AM »
Just win out. Quality wins against Creighton and UConn will speak volumes.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6372 on: February 27, 2024, 06:24:22 AM »
Any normal year 6 losses would never have you in contention for a 1 seed unless you played in the top ranked conferecnce similar to the 2011 Big East. But yes there is quite a dropp off. Doesn't mean those 3 are safe tho come tournament time.
False.
Since 2012, only 1 year did not have a 1-seed with 6+ losses.
Since 2016, every year has had at least one 1-seed with 6- losses.

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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6373 on: February 27, 2024, 08:19:45 AM »
False.
Since 2012, only 1 year did not have a 1-seed with 6+ losses.
Since 2016, every year has had at least one 1-seed with 6- losses.

At the end of the season, yes. With two weeks plus conference tournaments? No. Looking back, on the morning of February 27...

  • 2012: Michigan State had 5 losses
  • 2013: Indiana had 4 losses
  • 2014: Virginia had 5 losses
  • 2015: No 1-seed had 6+ losses
  • 2016: UVA and Oregon did both have 6 losses at this point
  • 2017: UNC had 5 losses
  • 2018: Kansas had 6 losses
  • 2019: UNC had 5 losses
  • 2020: No Tournament, but no projected 1-seed would've had 6 losses
  • 2021: Illinois had 6 losses
  • 2022: Baylor had 5 losses
  • 2023: Kansas had 5 losses
It's more common of late, but generally speaking, in the past 12 seasons, only 4 eventual 1-seeds (8.3%) in 3 seasons (25%) had 6 losses at this point of the season. It's not common to have this many teams with 6 losses in play for a 1-seed at this point of the season.
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Re: So....What are we ranked on Monday - 2/26/2024?
« Reply #6374 on: February 27, 2024, 09:50:38 AM »
At the end of the season, yes. With two weeks plus conference tournaments? No. Looking back, on the morning of February 27...

  • 2012: Michigan State had 5 losses
  • 2013: Indiana had 4 losses
  • 2014: Virginia had 5 losses
  • 2015: No 1-seed had 6+ losses
  • 2016: UVA and Oregon did both have 6 losses at this point
  • 2017: UNC had 5 losses
  • 2018: Kansas had 6 losses
  • 2019: UNC had 5 losses
  • 2020: No Tournament, but no projected 1-seed would've had 6 losses
  • 2021: Illinois had 6 losses
  • 2022: Baylor had 5 losses
  • 2023: Kansas had 5 losses
It's more common of late, but generally speaking, in the past 12 seasons, only 4 eventual 1-seeds (8.3%) in 3 seasons (25%) had 6 losses at this point of the season. It's not common to have this many teams with 6 losses in play for a 1-seed at this point of the season.
Fair. But it looks like you agree that "any normal year" and "never" are gross overstatements, especially when he said "in contention" which would not necessitate actually receiving a 1-seed.

 

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