Oso planning to go pro
It's not a strong QB year. Bryce Young ought to be a lock for #1 to Houston, but after that there are big questions about Stroud and even bigger questions about Levis. They'll both get drafted too high, but I don't see any team mortgaging the future to move up a few spots for them.
This is the NFL. I’ll be shocked if both Stroud and Levis aren’t top 5. I agree with you that they aren’t worthy, but that isn’t a factor when it comes to drafting QBs. A few years ago, no one could have seen a team mortgaging their future for Mitch.
Nobody in the NFL tries to lose.
Two 3rd round picks and a 4th is not mortgaging the future. Anyway the issue was selecting Mitch, not the trade.
Don’t forget to add the 1st rounder that they wasted on a stiff like Mitch. Which led to using more picks to make up for that debacle (Mack and Fields). Added together, that’s a pretty big mortgage.
For the record, I never said the Bears players or coaches are trying to lose. They are giving 100% effort to win. I'm sure they are disappointed in the record. Ownership and management are not prioritizing winning. I don't think they are upset at all with the record. My experience with fans I know is every one of them is hoping they Bears get the highest draft choice possible. They are A-OK with the record. I have not seen any press bashing the Bears for the plan in place. If anything I have heard praise for them going young, developing players like Fields, freeing up cap space and giving up on a season that was never going to amount to much anyway. I don't consume a lot of NFL press so maybe there is condemnation of the Bears plan, I just have not seen or heard it.
Higher draft picks give you the chance to take a highly rated QB, if you need it.So, ya, it would help in the long run.
Has any team in recent memory been unable to take a highly rated QB because they won a game?
It's not a strong QB year. Bryce Young ought to be a lock for #1 to Houston, but after that there are big questions about Stroud and even bigger questions about Levis. They'll both get drafted too high, but I don't see any team mortgaging the future to move up a few spots for them.As for the Bears, no, they're not trying to lose. Nobody in the NFL tries to lose. They'll accept losses as part of the rebuilding process, and are happy to deal older players and expiring contracts as part of that process, but that's not the same as trying to lose. If they were trying to lose, Fields would not have played yesterday.
I mean, there’s potentially 4 QBs in the top 10 vs last years first one taken at #20. YOY it’s far stronger
Not recent memory, but the ‘97 Bears started 1-10. They won 3 of their final 5 games that season and ended up with the fifth pick. Had they lost one more game, they’d have tied the Colts for worst record, and would have had the same strength of schedule as the Colts. Top pick that year was Peyton Manning. Bears took Curtis Enis (Charles Woodson went one pick before Enis).
Jets lost Trevor Lawrence by beating the Rams n 2020 in week 15.
For the record, I never said the Bears players or coaches are trying to lose. They are giving 100% effort to win. I'm sure they are disappointed in the record.
The losses are exactly what the ownership, management and fans expected and want.
I'd be surprised to see more than two QBs in the top 10, though I suppose there's a chance someone falls in love with Richardson's tools. Anyhow, my larger point is that none of these guys, outside Young, are likely to entice a QB-needy team like the Panthers or Colts give up multiple firsts-plus to move up into the top 5 for. They're more likely to wait and see who falls to them. Of course, crazier and dumber things have happened (see: 49ers giving 3 firsts for Trey Lance), but I just don't see these guys generating that hype.
Packers lost out on Troy Aikman because they won the last week in Phoenix. They picked Tony Mandarich #2 over Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders.
That's close to a great example, but the Cowboys had the lower strength of schedule that year, so they'd have won the tiebreaker and still gotten Aikman.