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Kolek picked by Portland
« on: June 27, 2024, 03:38:17 PM »
Tyler was just picked by Portland with the 34th pick!

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2024, 03:38:43 PM »
Going to NY???  Yes!!!!!!

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2024, 03:38:51 PM »
Then instantly traded to the Knicks

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2024, 03:38:58 PM »
Sounds like to be traded to Knicks.

They didn't even show the pick!

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2024, 03:39:48 PM »
BAM!!!!!!  Perfect situation for TyKo!!!

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2024, 03:40:22 PM »
Great fit. Congrats to TK

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2024, 03:42:52 PM »
Good fit for him. Really happy for Tyler!
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2024, 03:43:15 PM »
Good PG to learn behind.
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2024, 03:44:10 PM »
The Knicks already have all of the Villanova players.  May as well add the owner, too.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2024, 03:48:36 PM »
They are talking about now on WFAN.

They radio hosts are very happy and they said this means the Knicks are trading Deuce Mcbride to free up cap space for I-Hart.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2024, 03:51:34 PM »
I like this pick for Kolek and the Knicks.  He slots right in as Brunson's backup, where he should thrive with lots of good pieces around him.

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2024, 03:54:06 PM »
I like this pick for Kolek and the Knicks.  He slots right in as Brunson's backup, where he should thrive with lots of good pieces around him.
totally. They were commenting last night about Brunson really being the only one that can generate plays for others. Kolek is option 2! Very happy for him

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2024, 03:54:17 PM »
And a UConn fan and also a Knicks fan just called very excited because Kolek tortured UConn for years and thought is a perfect fir the NYK.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2024, 03:54:52 PM »
This is probably better for him than almost any other situation. 
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2024, 03:56:28 PM »
BAM!!!!!!  Perfect situation for TyKo!!!

Perfect?, please explain why.  Yeah, AS OF RIGHT NOW, he will be backup behind McBride, Divencenzo, Hart, Burks, in the rotation with guards.  Brunson plays like 40 minutes a game and McBride picks up the rest as PG.

I am extremely happy he is with my beloved Knicks, but Tyler probably going to be a two way player and G League regular, pending no Knick injuries. Many other teams would have been a perfect situation.  If something changes, man, he would be a Madison Square Garden favorite. 

Congrats to Tyler. 

Just read about McBride trade rumors above, nice if that happens.  Changes everything. Hope it happens.  That why I said, as of now. 
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2024, 03:58:26 PM »
Perfect?, please explain why.  Yeah, AS OF RIGHT NOW, he will be backup behind McBride, Divencenzo, Hart, Burks, in the rotation with guards.  Brunson plays like 40 minutes a game and McBride picks up the rest as PG.

I am extremely happy he is with my beloved Knicks, but Tyler probably going to be a two way player and G League regular, pending no Knick injuries. Many other teams would have been a perfect situation.  If something changes, man, he would be a Madison Square Garden favorite. 

Congrats to Tyler.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2024, 04:00:29 PM »
Knicks are a great fit for Kolek. Perhaps the only contending team on which he has a clear path to playing time his rookie season.

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2024, 04:00:58 PM »
And a UConn fan and also a Knicks fan just called very excited because Kolek tortured UConn for years and thought is a perfect fir the NYK.

I need to know if UConn/Knicks fans having to cheer for Kolek playing on their NBA team makes the gap bigger or smaller.
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« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2024, 04:06:29 PM »
The Arizona kid is going back!

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2024, 04:14:53 PM »
Then instantly traded to the Knicks

Thank God! Got the notification on my phone that Kolek was headed to Portland and I groaned for a few reasons. But the Knicks, yes! They saw what TJ McConnell did against them and wanted their own version. Great fit for him!
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2024, 04:15:45 PM »
Congratulations, TKo
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2024, 04:15:50 PM »
Congrats to Tyler. Hope he uses his slogan on the doubters
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2024, 04:32:45 PM »
He’ll never play in the nba
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2024, 04:37:29 PM »
He’ll never play in the nba

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2024, 05:25:00 PM »
Congratulations, Tyler. Too bad it had to be the Knickercats (all the VU guys).
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2024, 05:25:29 PM »
I look forward to following the New York Koleks

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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2024, 05:56:54 PM »
Where’s Viper?

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2024, 05:59:38 PM »
Where’s Viper?

Obsessing about who was gonna draft Tyler Wahl.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2024, 06:13:44 PM »
He’ll never play in the nba

I can't believe that Ramsey wasn't drafted!
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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2024, 06:15:04 PM »
I can't believe that Ramsey wasn't drafted!

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« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2024, 06:16:25 PM »
Vecenie and Hollinger on the Knicks picking Kolek:

Tyler Kolek had a phenomenal collegiate career, especially over the last two years. Few players across the country improved as much as he did. He struggled during his first year at Marquette and vaulted past that level by improving as a shooter and forcing teams to respect the threat of his offensive game. I love his vision as a passer and unselfish demeanor. I love his footwork and finishing ability. I love his strength and ability to playing through contact. But Kolek needs to prove that he can consistently make shots behind screens. Otherwise, NBA teams will dare him to fire from the perimeter. I think he’ll reach a solid level in that area because he’s such a good shooter off the catch; it’s hard to believe he couldn’t grow into one off the bounce, too. There will be some defensive worries with his lack of size, length and speed. However, I buy him at least carving out a role in the NBA as a backup point guard. If his shooting comes around off the dribble and his finishing translates, he could be far better than that. His strength, footwork, touch and deceleration are traits he shares with many of the breakout lead guards of the past five years. I feel confident projecting him to be an awesome backup with potential for more.

Hollinger’s analysis: This is a solid move for a win-now team, getting a reliable ballhandler for its bench when one of the real weaknesses of the Knicks’ roster was the lack of playmaking behind Jalen Brunson. Kolek profiles as a backup, at best, but the other angle here is that the Knicks will likely have him on a rookie minimum deal, helping them further their quest to limbo below the tax apron while completing their trade for Mikal Bridges.
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2024, 06:37:38 PM »
Excellent outcome for Tyler. On a quality team where he can take his time to learn what it takes to compete  at the next level. Also a big win for MU and The Big East .
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« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2024, 06:39:15 PM »
I was down last night after hearing Schierman's name called out for the last spot in the first round, leaving Tyler out. Today, I'm happy that Kolek was the 4th pick in the second round and is headed for NY, and Oso going home to Arizona is great.

Too many damn Frenchies this year, but our guys will be just fine.
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« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2024, 06:43:17 PM »
Nm
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« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2024, 07:15:05 PM »
Perfect?, please explain why.  Yeah, AS OF RIGHT NOW, he will be backup behind McBride, Divencenzo, Hart, Burks, in the rotation with guards.  Brunson plays like 40 minutes a game and McBride picks up the rest as PG.

I am extremely happy he is with my beloved Knicks, but Tyler probably going to be a two way player and G League regular, pending no Knick injuries. Many other teams would have been a perfect situation.  If something changes, man, he would be a Madison Square Garden favorite. 

Congrats to Tyler. 

Just read about McBride trade rumors above, nice if that happens.  Changes everything. Hope it happens.  That why I said, as of now.

I think playing behind Brunson, or even just watching him, will be beneficial.  I also think it's worth revisiting that most people thought Brunson could eventually be a solid back-up PG.   And I also think Thibs is the right coach for TyKo.   

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« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2024, 07:39:00 PM »
Only problem is Thibs doesn’t like to play rookies.
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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2024, 09:43:47 PM »
Congratulation to Tyler.

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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2024, 08:27:28 AM »
Only problem is Thibs doesn’t like to play rookies.

he'll have to this year so Brunson won't be completely worn out playing 48 mpg during the playoffs.

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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2024, 05:19:08 PM »
I think playing behind Brunson, or even just watching him, will be beneficial.  I also think it's worth revisiting that most people thought Brunson could eventually be a solid back-up PG.   And I also think Thibs is the right coach for TyKo.

I've watched Brunson a lot. My game didn't improve.

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« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2024, 05:28:15 PM »
I've watched Brunson a lot. My game didn't improve.

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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2024, 06:37:44 PM »
Cut the bshiiite Jockey.  You probably can't make a lay-up.

Maybe not, but he knows better than to post that Kolek's "just watching" Brunson might be beneficial.  ;D
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« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2024, 06:51:56 PM »
Tibs and TKO are a match made in heaven. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2024, 12:51:12 PM »
A good Knicks team full of Big East players is a good thing.

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« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2024, 05:02:23 PM »
Cut the bshiiite Jockey.  You probably can't make a lay-up.

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« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2024, 05:03:07 PM »
he'll have to this year so Brunson won't be completely worn out playing 48 mpg during the playoffs.

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« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2024, 07:40:12 PM »
Probably I'll get verbally flattened for saying this on here, but I think Brunson is a good Kolek comp.  Especially if you'd asked me the question 1-2 years ago.  Brunson has developed massively in the Knicks system and as a player himself and maybe his ceiling is higher than TKO, but as a rookie to rookie comp, I don't think there's much closer.

To me this means it's good for TKO to play in a system where the system doesn't change when he enters the game.  He might at this point be a poor mans Brunson, but what backup PG doesn't offer a few compromises?
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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2024, 08:14:08 PM »
The Brunson-Kolek comparison at similar points in their career is one I can support.  I hope Tyler can continue to develop.
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« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2024, 09:27:01 PM »
Probably I'll get verbally flattened for saying this on here, but I think Brunson is a good Kolek comp.  Especially if you'd asked me the question 1-2 years ago.  Brunson has developed massively in the Knicks system and as a player himself and maybe his ceiling is higher than TKO, but as a rookie to rookie comp, I don't think there's much closer.

To me this means it's good for TKO to play in a system where the system doesn't change when he enters the game.  He might at this point be a poor mans Brunson, but what backup PG doesn't offer a few compromises?

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« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2024, 10:03:32 PM »
I think in terms of being elite collegiate players that are seen as less prominent pro prospects, they are similar, but I'm curious about that comp. Brunson was a power guard, more athletic, was the prototype Villanova post up guard. Kolek has far better court vision, is a better passer, and his inside game is based on using every millimeter of length to create difficult to contest shooting angles.

I'd love to see Kolek have a similar career path, but I don't see his game as all the similar to Brunson.
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2024, 06:03:15 AM »
I think in terms of being elite collegiate players that are seen as less prominent pro prospects, they are similar, but I'm curious about that comp. Brunson was a power guard, more athletic, was the prototype Villanova post up guard. Kolek has far better court vision, is a better passer, and his inside game is based on using every millimeter of length to create difficult to contest shooting angles.

I'd love to see Kolek have a similar career path, but I don't see his game as all the similar to Brunson.
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2024, 06:13:01 AM »
I don't know about "far different."

Kolek pretty regularly posted up guards he could bully; Brunson was known as a hard worker; Kolek, like Brunson, became more effective when he became a more reliable scorer; each was the heart of his successful college team and extension of his coach on the floor.

And now, both were overlooked on draft day, relegated to the second round.

Of course they aren't exact copies. Kolek is the superior passer, while Brunson has become an all-star caliber scorer. Brunson appears to have more physical strength and athletic ability - I say "appears to" because Kolek hasn't shown what he can be as a pro yet. Looking forward to it!

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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2024, 07:00:18 AM »
Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
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Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2024, 09:21:14 AM »
Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
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Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




OK, I made up Tylers bench

What is max bench press in inches? Did I used to bench press wrong? I thought you just lift from chest (if flexible enough) to just before locking arms?
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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2024, 09:25:51 AM »
What is max bench press in inches? Did I used to bench press wrong? I thought you just lift from chest (if flexible enough) to just before locking arms?


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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2024, 09:34:43 AM »
Kolek reminds me of Jim Chones
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2024, 12:36:16 PM »
Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
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Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




OK, I made up Tylers bench


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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2024, 02:42:36 PM »
Kolek reminds me of Jim Chones


Yeah me too. They both wore numbers on the back of their jerseys while at MU, hey?
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2024, 02:50:55 PM »

Yeah me too. They both wore numbers on the back of their jerseys while at MU, hey?

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2024, 08:47:49 AM »
Learn ball
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2024, 02:04:50 PM »
Kolek signs with the Knicks. The first three years of the deal are guaranteed. I hope he's ready for those fundraising calls from MU

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1808932943307346232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1808932943307346232%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2024, 02:11:29 PM »
Kolek signs with the Knicks. The first three years of the deal are guaranteed. I hope he's ready for those fundraising calls from MU

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1808932943307346232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1808932943307346232%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2024, 02:22:20 PM »
Kolek signs with the Knicks. The first three years of the deal are guaranteed. I hope he's ready for those fundraising calls from MU

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1808932943307346232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1808932943307346232%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2024, 02:35:11 PM »
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life

I don't think the full $9M is guaranteed, but that's great news for him.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2024, 02:43:25 PM »
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life

Maybe he can explain why he wussed out of the Big East Tournament now
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2024, 02:57:35 PM »
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life
That is not what it says…..
Congrats to Tyler!

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2024, 03:01:58 PM »
He got the maximum 2nd round pick exception, the Knicks must like what they see

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/second-round-pick-exception-details-for-2024-25.html

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2024, 07:25:30 PM »
Even though he is #3 PG in depth chart, I bet he moves up quickly.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2024, 01:54:53 PM »
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/08/jalen-brunson-and-josh-hart-discuss-rumor-about-knicks-rookie-tyler-kolek-not-being-able-to-read/74327631007/


Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson, part of the strong contingent of ex-Villanova players on the Knicks, brought up the subject of can Kolek read on their "Roommates Show" podcast.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2024, 02:41:18 PM »
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/08/jalen-brunson-and-josh-hart-discuss-rumor-about-knicks-rookie-tyler-kolek-not-being-able-to-read/74327631007/


Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson, part of the strong contingent of ex-Villanova players on the Knicks, brought up the subject of can Kolek read on their "Roommates Show" podcast.

the most surprising part of that article is Justin Lewis is playing for something called the Calgary Surge
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