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Quote from: brewcity77 on June 30, 2024, 10:03:32 PM
I think in terms of being elite collegiate players that are seen as less prominent pro prospects, they are similar, but I'm curious about that comp. Brunson was a power guard, more athletic, was the prototype Villanova post up guard. Kolek has far better court vision, is a better passer, and his inside game is based on using every millimeter of length to create difficult to contest shooting angles.

I'd love to see Kolek have a similar career path, but I don't see his game as all the similar to Brunson.
Yep, quite different players. Both get results, but the path is far different.

MU82

I don't know about "far different."

Kolek pretty regularly posted up guards he could bully; Brunson was known as a hard worker; Kolek, like Brunson, became more effective when he became a more reliable scorer; each was the heart of his successful college team and extension of his coach on the floor.

And now, both were overlooked on draft day, relegated to the second round.

Of course they aren't exact copies. Kolek is the superior passer, while Brunson has become an all-star caliber scorer. Brunson appears to have more physical strength and athletic ability - I say "appears to" because Kolek hasn't shown what he can be as a pro yet. Looking forward to it!

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Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX BENCH PRESS
(REPETITIONS)

Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




OK, I made up Tylers bench

Galway Eagle

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 01, 2024, 07:00:18 AM
Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX BENCH PRESS
(REPETITIONS)

Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




OK, I made up Tylers bench

What is max bench press in inches? Did I used to bench press wrong? I thought you just lift from chest (if flexible enough) to just before locking arms?
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 01, 2024, 09:21:14 AM
What is max bench press in inches? Did I used to bench press wrong? I thought you just lift from chest (if flexible enough) to just before locking arms?


It's repetitions. The measurement follows the skill.
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Kolek reminds me of Jim Chones
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Quote from: lawdog77 on July 01, 2024, 07:00:18 AM
Their agility stats weren't too far off from each other:
PLAYER   POS   LANE AGILITY TIME
(SECONDS)   SHUTTLE RUN
(SECONDS)   THREE QUARTER SPRINT
(SECONDS)   STANDING VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX VERTICAL LEAP
(INCHES)   MAX BENCH PRESS
(REPETITIONS)

Jalen Brunson   PG   10.59   3.11   3.15   29.0   37.0   7
Tyler Kolek   PG   10.97   3.08   3.27   27.0   34.0    153




OK, I made up Tylers bench


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Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 01, 2024, 09:34:43 AM
Kolek reminds me of Jim Chones


Yeah me too. They both wore numbers on the back of their jerseys while at MU, hey?
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Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 03, 2024, 02:42:36 PM

Yeah me too. They both wore numbers on the back of their jerseys while at MU, hey?

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Kolek signs with the Knicks. The first three years of the deal are guaranteed. I hope he's ready for those fundraising calls from MU

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1808932943307346232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1808932943307346232%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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Quote from: Billy Hoyle on July 04, 2024, 02:04:50 PM
Kolek signs with the Knicks. The first three years of the deal are guaranteed. I hope he's ready for those fundraising calls from MU

https://x.com/FredKatz/status/1808932943307346232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1808932943307346232%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life
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Quote from: willie warrior on July 04, 2024, 02:22:20 PM
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life

I don't think the full $9M is guaranteed, but that's great news for him.

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Quote from: willie warrior on July 04, 2024, 02:22:20 PM
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life

Maybe he can explain why he wussed out of the Big East Tournament now
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Quote from: willie warrior on July 04, 2024, 02:22:20 PM
Good for Tyler. 9 million guaranteed will go a long way toward seeding his journey in life
That is not what it says.....
Congrats to Tyler!

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Even though he is #3 PG in depth chart, I bet he moves up quickly.

Spotcheck Billy

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/08/jalen-brunson-and-josh-hart-discuss-rumor-about-knicks-rookie-tyler-kolek-not-being-able-to-read/74327631007/


Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson, part of the strong contingent of ex-Villanova players on the Knicks, brought up the subject of can Kolek read on their "Roommates Show" podcast.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on July 08, 2024, 01:54:53 PM
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2024/07/08/jalen-brunson-and-josh-hart-discuss-rumor-about-knicks-rookie-tyler-kolek-not-being-able-to-read/74327631007/


Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson, part of the strong contingent of ex-Villanova players on the Knicks, brought up the subject of can Kolek read on their "Roommates Show" podcast.

the most surprising part of that article is Justin Lewis is playing for something called the Calgary Surge
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