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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2024, 05:25:29 PM »
I look forward to following the New York Koleks

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2024, 05:56:54 PM »
Where’s Viper?

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2024, 05:59:38 PM »
Where’s Viper?

Obsessing about who was gonna draft Tyler Wahl.
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2024, 06:13:44 PM »
He’ll never play in the nba

I can't believe that Ramsey wasn't drafted!
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2024, 06:15:04 PM »
I can't believe that Ramsey wasn't drafted!

If Ramsey keeps no showing in the dance like Oso, he’ll never get drafted
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2024, 06:16:25 PM »
Vecenie and Hollinger on the Knicks picking Kolek:

Tyler Kolek had a phenomenal collegiate career, especially over the last two years. Few players across the country improved as much as he did. He struggled during his first year at Marquette and vaulted past that level by improving as a shooter and forcing teams to respect the threat of his offensive game. I love his vision as a passer and unselfish demeanor. I love his footwork and finishing ability. I love his strength and ability to playing through contact. But Kolek needs to prove that he can consistently make shots behind screens. Otherwise, NBA teams will dare him to fire from the perimeter. I think he’ll reach a solid level in that area because he’s such a good shooter off the catch; it’s hard to believe he couldn’t grow into one off the bounce, too. There will be some defensive worries with his lack of size, length and speed. However, I buy him at least carving out a role in the NBA as a backup point guard. If his shooting comes around off the dribble and his finishing translates, he could be far better than that. His strength, footwork, touch and deceleration are traits he shares with many of the breakout lead guards of the past five years. I feel confident projecting him to be an awesome backup with potential for more.

Hollinger’s analysis: This is a solid move for a win-now team, getting a reliable ballhandler for its bench when one of the real weaknesses of the Knicks’ roster was the lack of playmaking behind Jalen Brunson. Kolek profiles as a backup, at best, but the other angle here is that the Knicks will likely have him on a rookie minimum deal, helping them further their quest to limbo below the tax apron while completing their trade for Mikal Bridges.
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2024, 06:37:38 PM »
Excellent outcome for Tyler. On a quality team where he can take his time to learn what it takes to compete  at the next level. Also a big win for MU and The Big East .
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2024, 06:39:15 PM »
I was down last night after hearing Schierman's name called out for the last spot in the first round, leaving Tyler out. Today, I'm happy that Kolek was the 4th pick in the second round and is headed for NY, and Oso going home to Arizona is great.

Too many damn Frenchies this year, but our guys will be just fine.
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2024, 06:43:17 PM »
Nm
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2024, 07:15:05 PM »
Perfect?, please explain why.  Yeah, AS OF RIGHT NOW, he will be backup behind McBride, Divencenzo, Hart, Burks, in the rotation with guards.  Brunson plays like 40 minutes a game and McBride picks up the rest as PG.

I am extremely happy he is with my beloved Knicks, but Tyler probably going to be a two way player and G League regular, pending no Knick injuries. Many other teams would have been a perfect situation.  If something changes, man, he would be a Madison Square Garden favorite. 

Congrats to Tyler. 

Just read about McBride trade rumors above, nice if that happens.  Changes everything. Hope it happens.  That why I said, as of now.

I think playing behind Brunson, or even just watching him, will be beneficial.  I also think it's worth revisiting that most people thought Brunson could eventually be a solid back-up PG.   And I also think Thibs is the right coach for TyKo.   

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2024, 07:39:00 PM »
Only problem is Thibs doesn’t like to play rookies.
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2024, 09:43:47 PM »
Congratulation to Tyler.

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« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2024, 08:27:28 AM »
Only problem is Thibs doesn’t like to play rookies.

he'll have to this year so Brunson won't be completely worn out playing 48 mpg during the playoffs.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2024, 05:19:08 PM »
I think playing behind Brunson, or even just watching him, will be beneficial.  I also think it's worth revisiting that most people thought Brunson could eventually be a solid back-up PG.   And I also think Thibs is the right coach for TyKo.

I've watched Brunson a lot. My game didn't improve.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2024, 05:28:15 PM »
I've watched Brunson a lot. My game didn't improve.

Cut the bshiiite Jockey.  You probably can't make a lay-up. 

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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2024, 06:37:44 PM »
Cut the bshiiite Jockey.  You probably can't make a lay-up.

Maybe not, but he knows better than to post that Kolek's "just watching" Brunson might be beneficial.  ;D
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2024, 06:51:56 PM »
Tibs and TKO are a match made in heaven. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2024, 12:51:12 PM »
A good Knicks team full of Big East players is a good thing.

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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2024, 05:02:23 PM »
Cut the bshiiite Jockey.  You probably can't make a lay-up.

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« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2024, 05:03:07 PM »
he'll have to this year so Brunson won't be completely worn out playing 48 mpg during the playoffs.

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That of course implies Thibs learned any lessons from the past two decades on load management

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« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2024, 07:40:12 PM »
Probably I'll get verbally flattened for saying this on here, but I think Brunson is a good Kolek comp.  Especially if you'd asked me the question 1-2 years ago.  Brunson has developed massively in the Knicks system and as a player himself and maybe his ceiling is higher than TKO, but as a rookie to rookie comp, I don't think there's much closer.

To me this means it's good for TKO to play in a system where the system doesn't change when he enters the game.  He might at this point be a poor mans Brunson, but what backup PG doesn't offer a few compromises?
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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2024, 08:14:08 PM »
The Brunson-Kolek comparison at similar points in their career is one I can support.  I hope Tyler can continue to develop.
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« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2024, 09:27:01 PM »
Probably I'll get verbally flattened for saying this on here, but I think Brunson is a good Kolek comp.  Especially if you'd asked me the question 1-2 years ago.  Brunson has developed massively in the Knicks system and as a player himself and maybe his ceiling is higher than TKO, but as a rookie to rookie comp, I don't think there's much closer.

To me this means it's good for TKO to play in a system where the system doesn't change when he enters the game.  He might at this point be a poor mans Brunson, but what backup PG doesn't offer a few compromises?

You won't get flattened. That comparison is one of the more common ones that have been made on the board the last two seasons
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Re: Kolek picked by Portland
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2024, 10:03:32 PM »
I think in terms of being elite collegiate players that are seen as less prominent pro prospects, they are similar, but I'm curious about that comp. Brunson was a power guard, more athletic, was the prototype Villanova post up guard. Kolek has far better court vision, is a better passer, and his inside game is based on using every millimeter of length to create difficult to contest shooting angles.

I'd love to see Kolek have a similar career path, but I don't see his game as all the similar to Brunson.
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