Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Pakuni]

  and there you have it-reuters have anything about hamas and israel celebrating thanksgiving together too?

You're embarrassing yourself.

Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-15/biden-adviser-says-sanctions-will-bring-down-iran-oil-exports

[Heisenberg]

You're embarrassing yourself.

Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-15/biden-adviser-says-sanctions-will-bring-down-iran-oil-exports

Or maybe he is not, and you are (yet again).



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-09/why-the-us-can-t-stop-iran-s-lucrative-oil-trade-with-china

But fresh measures and tougher enforcement will struggle to curtail the Islamic Republic's key source of income — thanks to China's appetite for discounted crude, and what traders, analysts and oil industry executives describe as expanded payment and transport networks that the US cannot reach.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/business/china-oil-saudi-arabia-iran.html

China has also started buying more oil from Iran, a longtime backer of Hamas, the group behind the attack. China has more than tripled its imports of Iranian oil in the past two years and bought 87 percent of Iran's oil exports last month, according to Kpler, which specializes in tracking Iran's oil exports.


China has reaped savings this year of nearly $10 billion through record purchases of oil from countries under Western sanctions, according to Reuters' calculations based on data from traders and shiptrackers.


https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/china-saves-billions-dollars-record-sanctioned-oil-imports-2023-10-11/

An unintended consequence of sanctions imposed by the United States and others on Russia, Iran and Venezuela has been to lower the oil import costs for refiners in top economic rival China, which often criticises such "unilateral" penalties.

[Pakuni]

Or maybe he is not, and you are (yet again)

In a stunning turn of events, Heisey posts off topic and misleading info, living up to his new name (yet again).

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You're embarrassing yourself.

I think he has proven this is impossible

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Apple quit advertising on X.  Good for them not doing business with an anti-semite.

Add The Mouse, Warner Bros., IBM...

Disney and other companies stop advertising on X as antisemitism crisis grows at Elon Musk's company
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/tech/lionsgate-suspends-advertising-x-musk?cid=ios_app

The decision by two of the world's most prominent film and television companies suggests an intensifying advertiser backlash to X after the social media platform's owner, Elon Musk, embraced an antisemitic conspiracy theory popular among White supremacists.

Disney and Warner Bros.' advertising pauses follow similar moves by Lionsgate and IBM.

IBM's ads were found appearing alongside pro-Nazi content on the platform. In a statement, IBM explicitly called out what it described as an "entirely unacceptable situation."

[JWags85]

Puma in talks to 10x their spend on X in support of recent anti-Semitic trends in honor of Rudolf Dessler's wishes

[lawdog77]

Bayer aspirin and Volkswagen are in talks to advertise more

[Lennys Tap]

Wow, some real false equivalency going on now.

Who is Biden's equivalent to Ms. Jewish Space Laser, Tucker, the Proud Boys and Putin? Tlaib? He repudiated her, and she criticized him.

One guy fomented a violent coup attempt against his own country; the other respects democracy and follows the Constitution.

They're practically twins!

"They're both awful" sure sounds like a convenient way to excuse the utterly repugnant words and deeds of the guy who's facing 91 felony charges - and, for the purposes of this thread, the guy who gladly accepts and solicits the support of raging anti-Semites. Not to mention the guy who mimicked Hitler's use of "vermin."

Mike
You're proving my point, sad to say (and I mean that). How do 91 felony charges, your opinion that he fomented a violent coup attempt, Tucker, Putin and the word vermin prove Trump is anti semitic? They're totally beside the point but you're so unhinged about the guy you can't see that.

Plenty of antisemites voted for Trump, plenty voted for Biden. How did college students vote in the last election? How about Muslims? It appears that there's more than a little antisemitism coming from those groups. And believe me, Joe was just as delighted to get his group's votes as Trump.

Tlaib (and others in her squad) have been antisemitic forever. They're Joe's allies and fellow party members. They supported him and worked hard for his election. He wasn't "repudiating" her/them then.

These are all political calculations made by guys trying to get elected. Nothing less, nothing more. Because of your hatred for Trump you can't see that.

[MU82]

How do 91 felony charges, your opinion that he fomented a violent coup attempt, Tucker, Putin and the word vermin prove Trump is anti semitic?

What I have said, repeatedly, is that he supports and solicits support from anti-Semites.

You might say, "That doesn't necessarily make him an anti-Semite," and we can choose to agree to disagree on that bit of semantics.

Or you can say that it's not true that he supports and solicits support from anti-Semites, and you'd be wrong. Because he obviously does.

Either way, he is part of the problem and not the solution.

But you're right ... him being a criminal defendant facing 91 felony charges, and him fomenting a violent coup attempt against America have nothing to do with him dining with neo-Nazis, kissing up to Putin and lauding Ms. Jewish Space Laser. They're just part of what makes him special.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I won't even dignify you and your slanderous and feeble attempt at humor.

Snowflake much? Smh

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Puma in talks to 10x their spend on X in support of recent anti-Semitic trends in honor of Rudolf Dessler's wishes

I hear IBM has offered to keep their books

[4everwarriors]

Snowflake much? Smh

Just gettin' in from a night of bar hoppin', hey?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

All dumbass jokes aside, this is a pretty powerful message from someone in Gaza criticizing Hamas, Israel, and others enabling this violence alike. Would be good for those cheering on the bombings and violence to read.

https://x.com/alexjrowell/status/1725493490929250462?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Just gettin' in from a night of bar hoppin', hey?

Nah I'm actually in Europe but I appreciate your hope that I am having a good time. Just finishing up a night of cruising Newsmax? It's late Doc!

[4everwarriors]

 Nah, its normal. Just heading out for my usual 10 miler at this time. Tanks for axin', hey?

[Heisenberg]

All dumbass jokes aside, this is a pretty powerful message from someone in Gaza criticizing Hamas, Israel, and others enabling this violence alike. Would be good for those cheering on the bombings and violence to read.

https://x.com/alexjrowell/status/1725493490929250462?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

This argues for proportionality in the response.

I've posted about this idea before, and it is the worst possible way to fight. Yet that is what we want, especially those wanting a ceasefire. That is a call for endless war leading to maximum death and pain.

The moral outcome is one side prevails. And to do that one side had to bring such an overwhelming force, such an unrelenting force, that the other side succumbs quickly.

This is why the Allies fire bombed Dresden and nuked Japanese citizens twice. It was the Allies saying stop Now, give up. And after these instances, and their horror, surrender was a few weeks later.

—

Sun Tzu, in this book "The Art of War," written in 500 BCE, argues when you go to war you have the bring overwhelming force to conquer the entire country as quickly as possible. And yes that means no proportionality.

——


When Has War Even Been 'Proportional?'

Israel's conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas

https://amgreatness.com/2023/11/16/when-has-war-even-been-proportional/

Proportionality in war is a synonym for lethal stalemate, if not defeat.

When two sides go at it with roughly equal forces, weapons, and strategies, the result is often a horrific deadlock—like the four years of toxic trench warfare on the Western Front of World War I that resulted in 12 million fatalities.

The purpose of war is to defeat the enemy as quickly as possible with the least number of causalities—and thereby achieve political ends.
—
[Hamas'] unapologetic aim was to kill thousands of Israelis at random and disproportionately.

In fact, in just the last few four weeks, Hamas has launched more than twice as many rockets into Israel as Nazi Germany managed to launch V-2s into Britain in five months.
—

Hamas strives for a more disproportionate terrorist agenda to prolong the war. And Israel strives for a more disproportionate retaliation to end it.

The anger arises at Israel mostly because it is Jewish, and thus far its conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas.

[Uncle Rico]

Elon champions free speech and blames big corporations as the biggest threats to free speech.  No comment on if this applies to campuses.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-calls-advertisers-oppressors-050350791.html

[21Jumpstreet]

Snowflake much? Smh

I don't know, it made me cringe, too. Doctors and drugs is a serious "joke" and it broke my soul when my cousin shot himself while on K at only 18. Some things are better left unsaid, and some things really hit a person deep. Doesn't mean someone is a snowflake.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I don't know, it made me cringe, too. Doctors and drugs is a serious "joke" and it broke my soul when my cousin shot himself while on K at only 18. Some things are better left unsaid, and some things really hit a person deep. Doesn't mean someone is a snowflake.

The joke is that ketamine is used in dental procedures (and other conscious sedation procedures).

but I edited it to remove the reference to any specific profession or person. I apologize it was read like that and hope for nothing more like that to happen to you or your family.

I've had personal connections to those things as well, as have many of us.

That being said, compassion is a two way street aina?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

This argues for proportionality in the response.

I've posted about this idea before, and it is the worst possible way to fight. Yet that is what we want, especially those wanting a ceasefire. That is a call for endless war leading to maximum death and pain.

The moral outcome is one side prevails. And to do that one side had to bring such an overwhelming force, such an unrelenting force, that the other side succumbs quickly.

This is why the Allies fire bombed Dresden and nuked Japanese citizens twice. It was the Allies saying stop Now, give up. And after these instances, and their horror, surrender was a few weeks later.

—

Sun Tzu, in this book "The Art of War," written in 500 BCE, argues when you go to war you have the bring overwhelming force to conquer the entire country as quickly as possible. And yes that means no proportionality.

——


When Has War Even Been 'Proportional?'

Israel's conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas

https://amgreatness.com/2023/11/16/when-has-war-even-been-proportional/

Proportionality in war is a synonym for lethal stalemate, if not defeat.

When two sides go at it with roughly equal forces, weapons, and strategies, the result is often a horrific deadlock—like the four years of toxic trench warfare on the Western Front of World War I that resulted in 12 million fatalities.

The purpose of war is to defeat the enemy as quickly as possible with the least number of causalities—and thereby achieve political ends.
—
[Hamas'] unapologetic aim was to kill thousands of Israelis at random and disproportionately.

In fact, in just the last few four weeks, Hamas has launched more than twice as many rockets into Israel as Nazi Germany managed to launch V-2s into Britain in five months.
—

Hamas strives for a more disproportionate terrorist agenda to prolong the war. And Israel strives for a more disproportionate retaliation to end it.

The anger arises at Israel mostly because it is Jewish, and thus far its conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas.

I didn't read anything you said after the first sentence but I know it doesn't say that.

[MuggsyB]

This argues for proportionality in the response.

I've posted about this idea before, and it is the worst possible way to fight. Yet that is what we want, especially those wanting a ceasefire. That is a call for endless war leading to maximum death and pain.

The moral outcome is one side prevails. And to do that one side had to bring such an overwhelming force, such an unrelenting force, that the other side succumbs quickly.

This is why the Allies fire bombed Dresden and nuked Japanese citizens twice. It was the Allies saying stop Now, give up. And after these instances, and their horror, surrender was a few weeks later.

—

Sun Tzu, in this book "The Art of War," written in 500 BCE, argues when you go to war you have the bring overwhelming force to conquer the entire country as quickly as possible. And yes that means no proportionality.

——


When Has War Even Been 'Proportional?'

Israel's conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas

https://amgreatness.com/2023/11/16/when-has-war-even-been-proportional/

Proportionality in war is a synonym for lethal stalemate, if not defeat.

When two sides go at it with roughly equal forces, weapons, and strategies, the result is often a horrific deadlock—like the four years of toxic trench warfare on the Western Front of World War I that resulted in 12 million fatalities.

The purpose of war is to defeat the enemy as quickly as possible with the least number of causalities—and thereby achieve political ends.
—
[Hamas'] unapologetic aim was to kill thousands of Israelis at random and disproportionately.

In fact, in just the last few four weeks, Hamas has launched more than twice as many rockets into Israel as Nazi Germany managed to launch V-2s into Britain in five months.
—

Hamas strives for a more disproportionate terrorist agenda to prolong the war. And Israel strives for a more disproportionate retaliation to end it.

The anger arises at Israel mostly because it is Jewish, and thus far its conventional disproportionality is proving more effective than the terrorist disproportionality of Hamas.

As I've said from Day 1 "proportiality" is utter fking nonsense.  It's about disproportionality for all the reasons you listed above. 

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

As I've said from Day 1 "proportiality" is utter fking nonsense.  It's about disproportionality for all the reasons you listed above.

Well that proves my point, thank you

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Elon champions free speech and blames big corporations as the biggest threats to free speech.  No comment on if this applies to campuses.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-calls-advertisers-oppressors-050350791.html

Yes, corporations choosing where to spend their ad dollars definitely suppresses other peoples' free speech. Yes, indeed.

[tower912]

That's what Ted Cruz says.

[Heisenberg]

Well that proves my point, thank you

Proud to stay ignorant?