Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[lawdog77]

Do you drink crude oil?

with salt

[Pakuni]

with salt

Do you mean tequila?
I imagine that other than color, there's not much difference between the two.

[4everwarriors]

Here's a spokesperson of note to emulate, aina?


https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/news/how-rashida-tlaib-became-the-biggest-jew-hater-in-congress/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

[Hards Alumni]

Here's a spokesperson of note to emulate, aina?


https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/news/how-rashida-tlaib-became-the-biggest-jew-hater-in-congress/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Ah yes, the New York Post a rag of note built for boomer brains!

[Pakuni]

Here's a spokesperson of note to emulate, aina?


https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/news/how-rashida-tlaib-became-the-biggest-jew-hater-in-congress/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

I mean, Tlaib is awful, but I don't see her ranting abiut Jewish space lasers and playing  footsie with Holocaust deniers.

[Hards Alumni]

I mean, Tlaib is awful, but I don't see her ranting abiut Jewish space lasers and playing  footsie with Holocaust deniers.

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.  If that were the litmus test then pretty much everyone in congress is guilty.

[MU82]

Introduced Putin to darkness, seize the vodka distilleries.

That's very funny.

[Heisenberg]

I mean, Tlaib is awful, but I don't see her ranting abiut Jewish space lasers and playing  footsie with Holocaust deniers.

She took money from Hamas ... which makes your moral equivalence a form of anti-Semitism.

https://canarymission.org/individual/Rashida_Tlaib

Canary Mission can confirm that Rashida Tlaib has extensive fundraising ties to Hamas supporters. She employed no less than three Hamas-linked activists to fundraise for her 2018 election campaign, one of whom spent 8 months in prison for his alleged connections to Hamas.

Tlaib additionally used a pro-terror Facebook page, PAC-USA, to raise funds for her 2018 Congressional campaign. Tlaib gave the founder of PAC-USA the position of Chairman of the Finance Committee for Rashida Tlaib for Congress. He used it to promote 12 fundraisers in 8 states, entirely with her support.

In 2015, Tlaib co-founded the Detroit-based, anti-American, anti-Israel and pro-terror hate group, Black4Palestine. A co-founder used the group to conduct activism with members of the Marxist-Leninist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), which is designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO).

And, on her first day in Congress, five seconds after she walked into her new office in DC, she did this

https://www.newarab.com/news/congresswoman-rashida-tlaib-puts-palestine-map-literally


This is literally a call to genocide the Jewish population in Isreal out of existence.

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You should apologize.

[Heisenberg]

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.  If that were the litmus test then pretty much everyone in congress is guilty.

Are you now going to revise this view?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Here's a spokesperson of note to emulate, aina?


https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/news/how-rashida-tlaib-became-the-biggest-jew-hater-in-congress/?utm_source=url_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

Cool. I gotta assume you feel the same way about your boy Tuckems, right? He of the Great Replacement Theory and attacking Soros and calling Zelenskyy rat-like...right? Right?

And Margie Jewish Space Lasers? And Gosar "yes, I love Nazi rallies"? And, and, and. Right?

[Hards Alumni]

She took money from Hamas ... which makes your moral equivalence a form of anti-Semitism.

https://canarymission.org/individual/Rashida_Tlaib

Canary Mission can confirm that Rashida Tlaib has extensive fundraising ties to Hamas supporters. She employed no less than three Hamas-linked activists to fundraise for her 2018 election campaign, one of whom spent 8 months in prison for his alleged connections to Hamas.

Tlaib additionally used a pro-terror Facebook page, PAC-USA, to raise funds for her 2018 Congressional campaign. Tlaib gave the founder of PAC-USA the position of Chairman of the Finance Committee for Rashida Tlaib for Congress. He used it to promote 12 fundraisers in 8 states, entirely with her support.

In 2015, Tlaib co-founded the Detroit-based, anti-American, anti-Israel and pro-terror hate group, Black4Palestine. A co-founder used the group to conduct activism with members of the Marxist-Leninist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), which is designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO).

And, on her first day in Congress, five seconds after she walked into her new office in DC, she did this

https://www.newarab.com/news/congresswoman-rashida-tlaib-puts-palestine-map-literally


This is literally a call to genocide the Jewish population in Isreal out of existence.

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You should apologize.

I won't apologize for asking questions, you absolute lunatic.

[Hards Alumni]

Are you now going to revise this view?

[Heisenberg]

Violence will not end the cycle of violence.

There are two solutions to stemming the cycle of violence.

1. The UN needs to finally pass a formal binding resolution establishing a 2-state solution (that means no vetoes by the US.

2. People need to quit using charged language attacking each other, and instead maybe listen and try to understand each other.

As an example. If you and/or Muggsy will humor me.

Define what:

"From the River to the Sea" means.

Similarly, what does Zionism/Zionist and the related terms anti-Zionism mean.

This isn't even Palestinian talking points. It is Hamas's talking point.


1. the UN did offer a two-state solution. In 1948. The Arabs (not called Palestinians back then) rejected it, and the day after, the UN recognized Israel, five Arab countries attacked Israel. Israel prevailed after losing 1% of its population.

In fact, almost every Israeli Prime Minister since 1995 was committed to the Two-State Solution either all the time or at one point or another. Here is the list of Israeli Prime Ministers who officially supported the Two-State Solution:

Shimon Peres (1995–1996) - PM during the Oslo peace process, firm supporter for the Two-State Solution.
Ehud Barak (1999–2001) - held talks in 2000 and 2001
Ariel Sharon (2001–2006) - after the Second Intifada he withdrew from the Gaza Strip in order to revive the peace process
Ehud Olmert (2006–20009) - held talks in 2008
Benjamin Netanyahu (2009-present) - negotiations in 2010, 2013–14, and the Trump plan in 2020.

The Palestinians have rejected every single plan. Why? Because they don't want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution, the want to genocide the Jews out of existence.

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This gets me to #2; you claim we need to stop using "highly charged language." This is not a highly charged language; this is what the leadership of Gaza wane, Hamas. As said I posted yesterday.


What part of this don't you understand?

Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad's interview on Lebanese TV last week, as translated by Lebanese TV
https://www.memri.org/tv/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-seven-until-israel-annihilated-victims-everything-we-do-justified

"Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country, because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force.

"We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. The Al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.

"The occupation must come to an end."

News anchor: "Occupation where? In the Gaza Strip?"

Hamad: "No, I am talking about all the Palestinian lands."

"The existence of Israel is illogical. The existence of Israel is what causes all that pain, blood, and tears. It is Israel, not us. We are the victims of the occupation. Period. Therefore, nobody should blame us for the things we do. On October 7, October 10, October 1,000,000 – everything we do is justified."

[Heisenberg]

I won't apologize for asking questions, you absolute lunatic.

Would you like to revise any of this you wrote 15 minutes ago?

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.

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Lunatic = Someone who does not adhere to the Western Progressive Worldview, the only correct view.

[Uncle Rico]

Cool. I gotta assume you feel the same way about your boy Tuckems, right? He of the Great Replacement Theory and attacking Soros and calling Zelenskyy rat-like...right? Right?

And Margie Jewish Space Lasers? And Gosar "yes, I love Nazi rallies"? And, and, and. Right?

I think it's amusing that people that question the Jewish bona fides of George Soros chime in on anti-semitism

[Uncle Rico]

Would you like to revise any of this you wrote 15 minutes ago?

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.

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Lunatic = Someone who does not adhere to the Western Progressive Worldview, the only correct view.

What's the correct world view?

[Hards Alumni]

Would you like to revise any of this you wrote 15 minutes ago?

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.

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Lunatic = Someone who does not adhere to the Western Progressive Worldview, the only correct view.

No, that isn't what I said.  But I can see how you might make such an illogical jump to such a conclusion.

Considering you're an idiot.

[Heisenberg]

No, that isn't what I said.  But I can see how you might make such an illogical jump to such a conclusion.

Considering you're an idiot.

Then explain to me, like I'm an idiot, not a serious person, or a lunatic, while you still do not have a problem with Tlaib but do with MTG?

[Heisenberg]

What's the correct world view?

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65076.msg1581242#msg1581242

This was addressed to the leader of Muslims on this board ....

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What you cannot accept is they (Hamas and many Palestinians) have a completely different worldview. One of death, violence, and oppression. One that wants to genocide 8 million Jews in Israel.

No, this has to be wrong. No one rationally thinks this way. They had to have been driven to this by evil perpetrated upon them, right? So, Israel bears responsibility. Then you find something Israel did wrong (hint: everyone does wrong things) and then say it is Israel's fault.

This is the crux of the issue. Hamad is telling you it. You just cannot, and will not, hear it!

So you use sophisticated words like "complicated," "nuisance," and now "realpolitik." You then dissemble until you make yourself and mini-me above feel better that Hamas and Palestinians are really friendly, gentle people who agree with your worldview. It is all about Isreal.

[Pakuni]

I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.  If that were the litmus test then pretty much everyone in congress is guilty.

If you think I'm taking my cues from a NY Post story (which I didn't read), you would be mistaken.
How is she awful? How much time we got?

- doubling down on blaming Israel for the hospital blast when U.S. intelligence says otherwise and providing no evidence to the contrary.
- calling for the elimination of federal prisons
- calling for the elimination of ICE
- arguing that one can't be progressive if they support thet support Israel
- saying there should be "no more policing or incarceration."

That's a start, anyhow.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65076.msg1581242#msg1581242

This was addressed to the leader of Muslims on this board ....

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What you cannot accept is they (Hamas and many Palestinians) have a completely different worldview. One of death, violence, and oppression. One that wants to genocide 8 million Jews in Israel.

No, this has to be wrong. No one rationally thinks this way. They had to have been driven to this by evil perpetrated upon them, right? So, Israel bears responsibility. Then you find something Israel did wrong (hint: everyone does wrong things) and then say it is Israel's fault.

This is the crux of the issue. Hamad is telling you it. You just cannot, and will not, hear it!

So you use sophisticated words like "complicated," "nuisance," and now "realpolitik." You then dissemble until you make yourself and mini-me above feel better that Hamas and Palestinians are really friendly, gentle people who agree with your worldview. It is all about Isreal.

Huh

[Heisenberg]

Huh

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What are you struggling with?

[Hards Alumni]

Then explain to me, like I'm an idiot, not a serious person, or a lunatic, while you still do not have a problem with Tlaib but do with MTG?

I can't.  You're too stupid to understand anything outside of your closed minded warped view.

It's okay to 'have a problem' with some things someone says without saying they're 'awful'.  If what you said about Tlaib is all factual (this is where you have a very bad track record) then I have a problem with some things she has said.  But please understand, I'm not taking your word for it.  I never will.  You play fast and loose with the truth constantly.  This is why no one here takes you seriously.  You say incorrect things as if they were factual and then get caught and then never address the lies.  That's why you're not a serious person.  That's why I called you a lunatic.  That's why you're an idiot.

I know the world is black and white for you, which I'm quite sure it also makes it very lonely... but you need to understand nuance.  Perhaps some introspection is in order. 

[Uncle Rico]

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What are you struggling with?

Nothing.  I've said Israel is well within their right to respond any way they see fit, including sending troops.

I'm not the one turning it into a culture war.

[Hards Alumni]

If you think I'm taking my cues from a NY Post story (which I didn't read), you would be mistaken.
How is she awful? How much time we got?

- doubling down on blaming Israel for the hospital blast when U.S. intelligence says otherwise and providing no evidence to the contrary.
- calling for the elimination of federal prisons
- calling for the elimination of ICE
- arguing that one can't be progressive if they support thet support Israel
- saying there should be "no more policing or incarceration."

That's a start, anyhow.

I don't.  I doubt you even bothered to read it, since it is laced with dog crap.  You likely gave it the time it deserved.  Zero.    Unfortunately, I'm kind of dumb and read it, instead.

None of those things make Tlaib awful, in my opinion, but we can disagree on that.  I also sincerely doubt that her entire view of those positions can be explained so glibly.