Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Heisenberg]

H20

You mention that we have to pick sides. I realize I might be stepping in it here and perhaps be labeled a simpleton, but I'm going to ask anyway.

What are the sides? How do you define the sides?

Does this help?

I did not say both sides had to eliminate each other. I said the way to get peace, as it has been throughout human history, is for one side to win an unconditional surrender over the other.

What is happening now, the status quo, is both sides eliminating each other.

Why did we nuke Japan twice and instantly kill over 100,000 innocent Japanese civilians? Was that a war crime? I do not recall seeing Truman in the Hague being prosecuted.

It was done because it was a message to tell the Japanese to stop. They did, and unconditional surrender was signed on the Missouri a month later.

So why were over 100,000 civilians killed to get the Japanese to stop? The estimates were between one and two million would have been killed attacking the Japanese Mainland. So, this was the least bad option.

Similarly, CNN is reporting the ground war is imminent. The fight has broken out on the Isreal-Lebanon border. It is about to get ugly real fast.

I see what is about to happen as the least bad option. So does President Biden and the European leaders that green-lighted Israel's right to defend itself. 

These world leaders knew what was about to happen. Question: Are all of you who say Israel has the right to defend itself that what is about to happen okay?

[21Jumpstreet]

Does this help?

Not particularly. What are the sides you're specifically talking about and asking people to choose between?

[tower912]

Not at all.  You just created a narrative.
Heisy has a right to share his views.  It's that simple.

Muggsy, a few posts ago you made a post that can be interpreted as a call for the president of the UN to be killed.    You're not well.

[Heisenberg]

You especially don't have to pick a side between the two Heisey Douchey is offering as the only options.

Hey, hey, hey .. douchey implies I might be a douche.

I'm the whole f-ing Canoe!

And don't you ever forget it!!

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy, a few posts ago you made a post that can be interpreted as a call for the president of the UN to be killed.    You're not well.

I said he should be dismissed from his post and he absolutely should be.

[tower912]

You said terminated.  There is a substantive difference.   

[MuggsyB]

You said terminated.  There is a substantive difference.

I meant from his job.

[tower912]

Then go back and change it like I suggested.    Because that wording in the wrong context to the wrong audience could ultimately cause you stress.

[MuggsyB]

Then go back and change it like I suggested.    Because that wording in the wrong context to the wrong audience could ultimately cause you stress.

Terminated doesn't mean darkness Tower in that context.  Calm down. 

[tower912]

Based on all your other posts in this thread?    An easy mistake to make.

[MuggsyB]

Based on all your other posts in this thread?    An easy mistake to make.

Fine.  I will change it if it makes you happy.  Do you think what he said was worthy of being fired? 

[tower912]

No.   Calling for a ceasefire is not a fireable offense.  From a UN perspective, it is an obligation.

The question you need to ask before you lose your mind is whether I agree with him.   And my answer to that is no.   Not yet.   

[Heisenberg]

After this thread I'm not hiring any more MU grads.

Many soon-to-be Harvard grads who signed a letter a few weeks ago are looking for employment opportunities.

https://themessenger.com/news/white-shoe-law-firm-pulls-job-offers-for-3-ivy-leaguers-over-israel-letters

[MU82]

After this thread I'm not hiring any more MU grads.

You almost made me do a spit take with my iced tea. Nice!

[Uncle Rico]

Many soon-to-be Harvard grads who signed a letter a few weeks ago are looking for employment opportunities.

https://themessenger.com/news/white-shoe-law-firm-pulls-job-offers-for-3-ivy-leaguers-over-israel-letters

They can get jobs with Elon or Tucker.  They'll be fine

[lawdog77]

You almost made me do a spit take with my iced tea. Nice!

Yeah, this.thread is devolving pretty quickly. 

[Jockey]

Hey, hey, hey .. douchey implies I might be a douche.

I'm the whole f-ing Canoe!

And don't you ever forget it!!

We have all known it for a very long time. Just a dumber version of chicos.

[MuggsyB]

No.   Calling for a ceasefire is not a fireable offense.  From a UN perspective, it is an obligation.

The question you need to ask before you lose your mind is whether I agree with him.   And my answer to that is no.   Not yet.

I vehemently disagree with you and most of tbe echo chamber here.  Remember this was a ignominious attack on civilians that proportionally would be like 37K Americans slaughtered.  In their homes Tower and at a concert.   Hamas is the absolute scum of the earth, and stating there was even an infinitesimal justification for what they did is ridiculous and  embarrassing.  The UN is a joke and have condemned Israel more than the entire terrorist world combined.  Inexcusable. 

[Uncle Rico]

I vehemently disagree with you and most of tbe echo chamber here.  Remember this was a ignominious attack on civilians that proportionally would be like 37K Americans slaughtered.  In their homes Tower and at a concert.   Hamas is the absolute scum of the earth, and stating there was even an infinitesimal justification for what they did is ridiculous and  embarrassing.  The UN is a joke and have condemned Israel more than the entire terrorist world combined.  Inexcusable.

Why can't Tower have an opinion?  Heisy can yet you immediately attack Tower for not agreeing with you and the "echo chamber"

[tower912]

I worry when Muggsy agrees with me.    I am amused and relieved he is trying and failing to bully me.  And irony and nuance have long been lost on him

[MuggsyB]

Why can't Tower have an opinion?  Heisy can yet you immediately attack Tower for not agreeing with you and the "echo chamber"

You sound absurd Reeko.  Of course Tower can have an opinion.  Stop conjuring things out of thin air and pretending like you're a contemporary Oscar Wilde.  You're not. 

[Uncle Rico]

You sound absurd Reeko.  Of course Tower can have an opinion.  Stop conjuring things out of thin air and pretending like you're a contemporary Oscar Wilde.  You're not.

You said Heisy has a right to share his opinion and not to bully yet you get furious at anyone that doesn't agree with you, whether here or elsewhere. 

[MuggsyB]

You said Heisy has a right to share his opinion and not to bully yet you get furious at anyone that doesn't agree with you, whether here or elsewhere.

Getting "furious" is totally irrelevant.  Never have I suggested that people shouldn't share their opinions. 

[MUBurrow]

Remember this was a ignominious attack on civilians that proportionally would be like 37K Americans slaughtered.

This isn't how human lives work.

[Uncle Rico]

Getting "furious" is totally irrelevant.  Never have I suggested that people shouldn't share their opinions.

Then why do you care what the "echo chamber" says?  None of the "echo chamber" or what happens on college campuses is changing what Israel will do in the coming days