Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Uncle Rico]

Fifty-eight pages, and I am most vocal of maybe 2 or 3 people against the secular Western progressive view here. And yes, for that, I was banned for a week.

And if the mods want to make another intensely political decision and ban only my point of view, not some of the genuinely hateful views here ... it is their board.

Do you want to see my texts/DMs from lurkers and non-posters and how upset they are by the view on this board and in this thread? Are they legitimately afraid of speaking up out of fear of being Doxxed?

Do you think there are no Jewish fans of MU basketball who read what some posters say here and are not upset?

Keefe is the one that doxxes people.

Anyway, irony is dead

[Hards Alumni]

Ya tbink??

Yes.  If Hezbollah launches anything close to what it is capable of, the US carriers will pound them.

I have zero doubt.  Israel is an ally of the US, and the US isn't about to let a full scale assault happen from the North.

I also think that Hezbollah knows this, and won't get involved. 

[Hards Alumni]

Fifty-eight pages, and I am most vocal of maybe 2 or 3 people against the secular Western progressive view here. And yes, for that, I was banned for a week.

And if the mods want to make another intensely political decision and ban only my point of view, not some of the genuinely hateful views here ... it is their board.

Do you want to see my texts/DMs from lurkers and non-posters and how upset they are by the view on this board and in this thread? Are they legitimately afraid of speaking up out of fear of being Doxxed?

Do you think there are no Jewish fans of MU basketball who read what some posters say here and are not upset?

You weren't banned for espousing your views, but you know that.  You were banned (likely) for calling people who didn't agree with you, "Jew Haters". 

[Heisenberg]

You weren't banned for espousing your views, but you know that.  You were banned (likely) for calling people who didn't agree with you, "Jew Haters".

I wrote this

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65081.msg1575613#msg1575613

The conceit that most of the pro-Palestinian crowd here has (Galway, Hards. 21jump, Jockey, Brew, etc) starts with the assumption that everyone thinks like them. They think everyone wants the same things they do.

They do not.

Palestinians want one thing: the slaughter and elimination of all Jews.

Lawdog responded
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65081.msg1575623#msg1575623

Ban this guy. This is such a horesh!t statement.

Brew also chimed in
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=65081.msg1575649#msg1575649
This is all bigoted hateful nonsense. You don't have a goddamn clue what you are talking about. This is probably the most racist thing I've ever seen on this site, and that's saying something.

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Right after this, I was banned for a week.

I'll let you figure out the motivation.

ADDED

In the ten days since this happened, how many "gas the Jews" and "river to the sea" chants has the world seen to make one think this is an entirely off-base statement?

Where are the Arab and Palestinian condemnation of October 7 and these statements in the last ten days?

[Hards Alumni]

I don't need your 'help'. 

[4everwarriors]

Thank goodness we have a president with empathy, one who is staunchly on Israel's side while appreciating the worldwide implications of war, one who doesn't make this all about himself, one who values American Jews as well as Israeli Jews, one who doesn't call Jew-hating white nationalists "very fine people," one who doesn't hold Ms. Jewish Space Laser in high regard, one who doesn't tell Jew-haters to "stand by" and wait for his orders, one who doesn't surround himself with Jew-haters, one who wants the best outcomes for as many people as possible, and one who doesn't repeatedly threaten to use nuclear weapons as if they're his personal toys.

My brother and SIL, who did not care for Obama and who did appreciate a couple of the pro-Israel moves that his successor made, mostly like Biden's response to this situation. But hey, they're not nearly as close to what's going on in Israel as a dentist from Mequon is.

Look at what people actually do, not what they say. Empathy, you state? The Buffoon has empathy for anyone who lines his pockets with greenbacks and, of course, the liberal media will run cover for him, hey?

[Jockey]

You're right, I will stop arguing with you.

Just keep encouraging Heisy. It's starting to seem you're a bit obsessed.

[Skatastrophy]

Yes.  If Hezbollah launches anything close to what it is capable of, the US carriers will pound them.

I have zero doubt.  Israel is an ally of the US, and the US isn't about to let a full scale assault happen from the North.

I also think that Hezbollah knows this, and won't get involved. 

Hezbollah has been "escalating" according to the IDF

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1715936575714963933?s=20

[Uncle Rico]

Look at what people actually do, not what they say. Empathy, you state? The Buffoon has empathy for anyone who lines his pockets with greenbacks and, of course, the liberal media will run cover for him, hey?

Irony is dead part 2

[Hards Alumni]

Just keep encouraging Heisy. It's starting to seem you're a bit obsessed.

You do lack self awareness, don't you?

While he was on his break I still posted in this thread, did I not?  It is a topic that interests me.  I should stop because you think I'm obsessed with him?  That's some pretty solid logic.

[The Sultan]

What is your point? That this is not a war for the existence of a race of people? That "everything will be just fine" if only Isreal would calm down?

No this isn't a "war for the existance of a race of people." That's hyperbolic nonsense.  I also never said that Israel should "calm down." That's just silly. Of course they need to severely weaken Hamas in response.

What I am saying is that if Israel truly wants peace long-term, it has to treat Palestinians with more respect than they have shown. Don't violate agreements that you have made.

And yes, I am de-legitimizing Palestinians.

And this is why you aren't a serious person.

[Hards Alumni]

Hezbollah has been "escalating" according to the IDF

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1715936575714963933?s=20

Okay, but that isn't the same as what I said.  I said if they launch what they're capable of then the US would assist.

Hezbollah has something like 150k missiles, including precision guided ones, and thousands of troops.

A couple of anti tank rockets, etc... Israel can deal with that on their own.  They have been for years.  The response from Israel in the North has been very measured and careful to prevent civilian loss of life.  I only hope that they can do the same in Gaza.

[Heisenberg]

No this isn't a "war for the existence of a race of people." That's hyperbolic nonsense.

You could have stopped here. That is all everyone needs to know about your position.

[The Sultan]

You could have stopped here. That is all everyone needs to know about your position.

LOL. It's a war to retaliate for a previous attack against the Israeli state, and to prevent further attacks in the future. All of which is legitimate and fine.  You are engaging in the same hyperbolic nonsense you normally do. The Jews aren't about to be eliminated as a race of people. Most Jews don't even live in Israel.

[Heisenberg]

LOL. It's a war to retaliate for a previous attack against the Israeli state, and to prevent further attacks in the future. All of which is legitimate and fine.

You seem to be dismissing it as a sort of police action, not unlike what a big city police department would do to curtail gang activity.

But this is your MO ... "Everything is fine." Progressive ideology believes it can burn every institution to the ground and genuinely think nothing will come of it. This is why they engage in such destructive behavior.
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Do you realize how your attitude can be read by Jewish people here? Surely you are smart enough to see even this?

Let's contrast the "Leader of Muslims" position with President Biden's statement.

https://sv.usembassy.gov/president-bidens-statement-during-his-visit-to-tel-aviv/

Hamas committed atrocities that recall the worst ravages of ISIS, unleashing pure unadulterated evil upon the world.

There is no rationalizing it, no excusing it. Period.

October 7th, which was a sacred to — a sacred Jewish holiday, became the deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust. It has brought to the surface painful memories and scars left by a millennia of antisemitism and the genocide of the Jewish people.

The world watched then, it knew, and the world did nothing. We will not stand by and do nothing again. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

The State of Israel was born to be a safe place for the Jewish people of the world. That's why it was born. I have long said: If Israel didn't exist, we would have to invent it.

And while it may not feel that way today, Israel must again be a safe place for the Jewish people. And I promise you: We're going to do everything in our power to make sure that it will be.

AND UK PM Rishi Sunak

https://www.politico.eu/article/rishi-sunak-uk-to-visit-israel-amidst-increasing-conflict/

"I'm proud to stand with you in Israel's darkest hour as your friend, we will stand with you in solidarity, we will stand with your people, and we want you to win."

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Does this sound like someone who thinks, "They did something, so we do something back, get the bad guys that caused this, and only this, and then it is over?"

[Heisenberg]

The Jews aren't about to be eliminated as a race of people. Most Jews don't even live in Israel.

How do you know they will not be eliminated because they have a military that will prevent it? If so, does that make constant rocket barrages and endless attacks okay, as they can repeal them? Is it ok to attack 6' 5" athletic men because they look able to repel it? This is the equivalence you seem to be drawing.

Or all the "gas the Jews" and "River to sea chants" worldwide are really a bunch of nothing? Everyone is overreaching. "Everything will be fine."

Yesterday, I walked my dog by the Synagogue in my neighborhood. They had a police presence and visible armed guards in front of it.

Is this another "LOL overreaction?" ... Leader of Muslims?

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Finally ... you wrote.

Most Jews don't even live in Israel.

Why did you mention this? It sounds like there are acceptable amounts of Jewish losses, so long as it is less than 50% of the population.

I know you did not mean it this way ... it's part of your inflammatory remarks repeatedly made here, and seem to be incapable of understanding ... primarily driven by a Western Progressive ideology that assumes everyone thinks like you (because it is the correct way to think!) and understand what you meant, as that is the only interpretation.

So ... I'll let you have a do-over here. Why did you feel it necessary to write this?

ADDED

Remember, upset and scared Jewish MU basketball fans here read this thread and contacted me.

Address them, not me.

[MuggsyB]

How do you know they will not be eliminated because they have a military that will prevent it? If so, does that make constant rocket barrages and endless attacks okay, as they can repeal them? Is it ok to attack 6' 5" athletic men because they look able to repel it? This is the equivalence you seem to be drawing.

Or all the "gas the Jews" and "River to sea chants" worldwide are really a bunch of nothing? Everyone is overreaching. "Everything will be fine."

Yesterday, I walked my dog by the Synagogue in my neighborhood. They had a police presence and visible armed guards in front of it.

Is this another "LOL overreaction?" ... Leader of Muslims?

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Finally ... you wrote.

Most Jews don't even live in Israel.
"
Why did you mention this? It sounds like there are acceptable amounts of Jewish losses, so long as it is less than 50% of the population.

I know you did not mean it this way ... it's part of your inflammatory remarks make here, and seem to be incapable of understanding ... primarily driven by a Western Progressive ideology that assumes everyone thinks like you (because it is the correct way to think!) and understand what you meant, as that is the only interpretation.

So ... I'll let you have a do-over here. Why did you feel it necessary to write this?

I'm very sorry for all of these troubles Heisenberg. That Detroit story was beyond awful.  If I'm not mistaken almost 1/2 of the Jews in the World live in Israel.  Fluffy's comment was quite insensitive. I hope he apologizes. Take care man. 

[Uncle Rico]

How do you know they will not be eliminated because they have a military that will prevent it? If so, does that make constant rocket barrages and endless attacks okay, as they can repeal them? Is it ok to attack 6' 5" athletic men because they look able to repel it? This is the equivalence you seem to be drawing.

Or all the "gas the Jews" and "River to sea chants" worldwide are really a bunch of nothing? Everyone is overreaching. "Everything will be fine."

Yesterday, I walked my dog by the Synagogue in my neighborhood. They had a police presence and visible armed guards in front of it.

Is this another "LOL overreaction?" ... Leader of Muslims?

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Finally ... you wrote.

Most Jews don't even live in Israel.

Why did you mention this? It sounds like there are acceptable amounts of Jewish losses, so long as it is less than 50% of the population.

I know you did not mean it this way ... it's part of your inflammatory remarks repeatedly made here, and seem to be incapable of understanding ... primarily driven by a Western Progressive ideology that assumes everyone thinks like you (because it is the correct way to think!) and understand what you meant, as that is the only interpretation.

So ... I'll let you have a do-over here. Why did you feel it necessary to write this?

ADDED

Remember, upset and scared Jewish MU basketball fans here read this thread and contacted me.

Address them, not me.

Any Jewish Marquette fans afraid to post here, please join the discussion and share your thoughts.  There isn't any reason to be afraid to post here unless you offend Keefe who may dox you. 

We'd all love to have you post here.  It's far better you speak for yourselves than have Heisey speak for you

[Uncle Rico]

I'm very sorry for all of these troubles Heisenberg. That Detroit story was beyond awful.  If I'm not mistaken almost 1/2 of the Jews in the World live in Israel.  Fluffy's comment was quite insensitive. I hope he apologizes. Take care man.

Threats are on the rise against Jewish and Muslim alike.  America is very racist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/15/world/middleeast/threats-jewish-muslim-americans-israel-attack.html

[MuggsyB]

Wow.  I didn't realize outside of the USA and Israel there are less than 2 million Jews across the world.  I think people need to keep this in mind.  The worldwide pure hatred, especially in light of their history, is incredibly disturbing.  I honestly don't really get it. 

[MuggsyB]

Threats are on the rise against Jewish and Muslim alike.  America is very racist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/15/world/middleeast/threats-jewish-muslim-americans-israel-attack.html

Neither are a race although Jews identify as a race. 

[Heisenberg]

I'm very sorry for all of these troubles Heisenberg. That Detroit story was beyond awful.  If I'm not mistaken almost 1/2 of the Jews in the World live in Israel.  Fluffy's comment was quite insensitive. I hope he apologizes. Take care man.

A 6-year-old Palestinian boy in Plainfield, Illinois, is stabbed to death, which is worldwide news. They caught the guy, and I wish Illinois had the death penalty for him.

Meanwhile ... let's all look past this story from yesterday because it does not fit the progressive worldview.

Police seek motive for fatal stabbing of Detroit synagogue president outside her home
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/police-seek-motive-for-fatal-stabbing-of-detroit-synagogue-president-outside-her-home

A Detroit synagogue president was found stabbed to death outside her home Saturday, police said. The motive wasn't known.

Emergency medical personnel declared the woman, identified in a statement from Mayor Mike Duggan as Samantha Woll, dead at the scene, Cpl. Dan Donakowski said.

"While at the scene, police officers observed a trail of blood leading officers to the victim's residence, which is where the crime is believed to have occurred," Donakowski said.

Woll, 40, had led the Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue since 2022 and was a former aide to Democratic Rep. Elissa Slotkin and campaign staffer for Attorney General Dana Nessel, the Detroit Free Press reported.

[Hards Alumni]

A 6-year-old Palestinian boy in Plainfield, Illinois, is stabbed to death, which is worldwide news. They caught the guy, and I wish Illinois had the death penalty for him.

Meanwhile ... let's all look past this story from yesterday because it does not fit the progressive worldview.

Police seek motive for fatal stabbing of Detroit synagogue president outside her home
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/police-seek-motive-for-fatal-stabbing-of-detroit-synagogue-president-outside-her-home

A Detroit synagogue president was found stabbed to death outside her home Saturday, police said. The motive wasn't known.

Emergency medical personnel declared the woman, identified in a statement from Mayor Mike Duggan as Samantha Woll, dead at the scene, Cpl. Dan Donakowski said.

"While at the scene, police officers observed a trail of blood leading officers to the victim's residence, which is where the crime is believed to have occurred," Donakowski said.

Woll, 40, had led the Isaac Agree Downtown Synagogue since 2022 and was a former aide to Democratic Rep. Elissa Slotkin and campaign staffer for Attorney General Dana Nessel, the Detroit Free Press reported.

Did you just link a story from PBS' national news desk and then say it isn't national news?   

[Uncle Rico]

Neither are a race although Jews identify as a race.

That's splitting hairs.  Racism permeates this country

[Heisenberg]

It's far better you speak for yourselves than have Heisey speak for you

I only speak for myself.