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The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 17, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
C'mon man, ur kiddin'. Some of the country's most select universities like Northwestern, Stanford, Penn, Harvard, and even UW have verbally and physically throw their support toward Hamas' atrocities. And those schools, along with their outspoken students, will be held accountable, aina?


Here is the UW chancellor's statement. No idea what you are talking about.

https://news.wisc.edu/mnookin-a-message-on-the-tragic-events-in-israel-and-the-palestinian-territories/

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

I did Doc's homework for him ...

Stanford:
As a moral matter, we condemn all terrorism and mass atrocities. This includes the deliberate attack on civilians this weekend by Hamas.
https://news.stanford.edu/report/2023/10/11/update-stanford-community/


Northwestern:
The abhorrent and horrific actions of Hamas on Saturday are clearly antithetical to Northwestern's values — as well as my own. Whatever we might feel about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, our shared humanity should lead us all to condemn these barbaric acts."
https://dailynorthwestern.com/2023/10/13/campus/schill-issues-new-statement-on-israel-hamas-war-free-speech/

Penn:
I want to leave no doubt about where I stand. I, and this University, are horrified by and condemn Hamas's terrorist assault on Israel and their violent atrocities against civilians. There is no justification—none—for these heinous attacks, which have consumed the region and are inciting violence in other parts of the world.
https://penntoday.upenn.edu/announcements/penns-response-recent-events-terrorist-attacks-in-israel

The Sultan

Pakuni, what use are official statements when a bunch of students got someone to change the lighting on the Northwestern library?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 16, 2023, 07:13:18 PM
  what did you do with your antisemitic blm flag?  give it to ww?

i proudly fly the USA & MU flags

Dentist: blm is antisemtic

Pak: No, that isn't true, here's a link to the facts

Smith: No, that isn't true, those are fake, right-wing accounts posting disinformation. Here is BLM's direct statement

Dentist:...blm is antisemetic
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Pakuni

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on October 17, 2023, 11:46:36 AM
Dentist: blm is antisemtic

Pak: No, that isn't true, here's a link to the facts

Smith: No, that isn't true, those are fake, right-wing accounts posting disinformation. Here is BLM's direct statement

Dentist:...blm is antisemetic

Feelings don't care about your facts.

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

lawdog77

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on October 17, 2023, 11:46:36 AM
Dentist: blm is antisemtic

Pak: No, that isn't true, here's a link to the facts

Smith: No, that isn't true, those are fake, right-wing accounts posting disinformation. Here is BLM's direct statement

Dentist:...blm is antisemetic
Googled it:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/blm-chicago-admits-it-isnt-proud-of-deleted-post-of-hamas-paraglider/

Uncle Rico

Feelings don't care about your facts.

Guster is for Lovers

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

21Jumpstreet

I'm happy to share all emails I have received from UPenn, if you'd like. I can tell you that it is a bit of a shite show there. President Magill's first statement as sent out by the board was, in my opinion, not strong enough not just due to the disgusting acts of Hamas but also because UPenn has a large number of Jewish students who should feel safe. Some on the board have since come out against the very statement they approved, unusual and, in my opinion, good.

Very recently, there was a Palestinian Writers event there that resulted in several acts of hate towards the Jewish students. The University botched the handling of the event and its response, in my opinion. The event was to be a good one, meant to highlight Palestinian art, but was mired by noted antisemitic speakers.

Since their initial response to the terrorism against Israel, UPenn has released a very strong worded statement condemning Hamas while standing for peace and humanity. However, there is some chatter that several board members challenged Magill, resigned or were told they could resign, which led to the new release. Additionally, several prominent donors and high level business people have called for donations to stop until Magill and the COB Scott Bok resign.

There will certainly be consequences, and that is absolutely the right of anyone associated with UPenn or otherwise.

Pakuni

#911
Other than trying to enforce certain stereotypes, why is it important  to some that a university condemn a terrorist attack?

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 17, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
C'mon man, ur kiddin'. Some of the country's most select universities like Northwestern, Stanford, Penn, Harvard, and even UW have verbally and physically throw their support toward Hamas' atrocities. And those schools, along with their outspoken students, will be held accountable, aina?

Why so cranky, Doc? You have a decent chance to get an insurrectionist to lead the very chamber against which he helped organize a violent coup attempt. Some of those backing him are antisemites, sure, but still ... cheer up!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow

Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
Other than trying to enforce certain stereotypes, why is it important  to some that a university to condemn a terrorist attack?

Yeah, considering these are supposed to be places of research and debate, looking for "the University of X's unified position" on anything is weird.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
Other than trying to enforce certain stereotypes, why is it important  to some that a university condemn a terrorist attack?

As long as they only support students I agree with, I'm fine with their statements.  We need to crush universities and limit learning as best we can
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
Other than trying to enforce certain stereotypes, why is it important  to some that a university condemn a terrorist attack?

Hey, republicans are consistent. They all condemned MAGAt's assault on the Capitol.

Jockey

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 17, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
As long as they only support students I agree with, I'm fine with their statements.  We need to crush universities and limit learning as best we can

Puffin' Fingers is ready.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
Other than trying to enforce certain stereotypes, why is it important  to some that a university to condemn a terrorist attack?

People often look to college presidents, as leaders of communities, to comment on current events. But they usually are about reflecting on how it impacts the community versus condemning something. The UW's statement is almost exactly how these things read.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on October 17, 2023, 01:27:45 PM
Puffin' Fingers is ready.

I wonder where he'll be in a few years?  Probably working with Scott Walker
Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


MU82

My sister-in-law in Tel Aviv has been providing the family and some friends daily updates on their situation. Here is how she began today's. She is a very opinionated, very Jewish, and (obviously) very very very pro-Israel ...

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Let's start this day by dispelling some terms thrown against Israel:

We are an apartheid state.  Ask any South African what apartheid means.  No black person could use the same toilets, they could not seat on the same public benches.  I believe that they couldn't even walk on the same pavement.  The women were maids earning meagre wages and the men were gardeners or only had menial jobs.  Arabs in Israel are treated equally.  95% of all pharmacists are Arabs; Arabs are doctors, nurses, brigadiers in the army, they have their own businesses and pay the same taxes.  We recently had a huge renovation to our apartment.  Our builders were Arabs.  We had various quotes for carpentry, for the builders themselves, for the electrician etc.  We chose the Arab companies – why?  Easy – their work was top notch.

We are occupying Gaza.  Gaza is NOT a part of Israel.  We have not a legal responsibility to Gaza.  We left Gaza in 2005.  As a result they had "fair and open" elections.  Hamas won.  Hamas ran on the ticket that they would provide health services, they would build wealth for the Palestinians.  The net result was yes they did provide some social benefits and they also built wealth for themselves.  If you are gay then you can expect to be executed if you are caught.  Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world.  Israel provides the infrastructure for the electricity. However, the Palestinians are supposed to pay for this.  They haven't paid for quite a while.   Listen to Joe Biden's speech last night when he said that it would not be a good idea for Israel to occupy Gaza AGAIN - affirming that we do not occupy Gaza.

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She went on to add:

Bibi's legacy is dead!  He will be remembered as the power-mad egotist who fell asleep on his watch.  He was so infatuated by the far, far right that the money that should have gone on defence, education and the health services here instead went on supporting his personal causes.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 17, 2023, 01:28:22 PM
People often look to college presidents, as leaders of communities, to comment on current events. But they usually are about reflecting on how it impacts the community versus condemning something. The UW's statement is almost exactly how these things read.

Do they?
I'm sure you are correct in regards to the university community.
But the public as a whole? Does Doc really look to the presidents of Harvard and Penn for leadership on international affairs? I suspect no more than his local high school principal or the guy who manages the local Wal-Mart (who, I'll note, has been suspiciously quiet about all this. Why hasn't he condemned Hamas???)

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on October 17, 2023, 01:48:53 PM
Do they?
I'm sure you are correct in regards to the university community.
But the public as a whole? Does Doc really look to the presidents of Harvard and Penn for leadership on international affairs? I suspect no more than his local high school principal or the guy who manages the local Wal-Mart (who, I'll note, has been suspiciously quiet about all this. Why hasn't he condemned Hamas???)


Yeah I mean the university community.  Most people don't give a rip what a university president says about anything outside the community.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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