2023-24 NBA Thread

[rocket surgeon]

Congrats to the Pistons.

  time to bring back henry-put him in coach...only if wally were available though

[Its DJOver]

My maxims aren't the problem.

I just asked a question, why are you attacking me?

[Uncle Rico]

Celtics down 19 to the Pistons at halftime

[GB Warrior]

Ok fine I'll turn on Bill Simmons notifications

[Uncle Rico]

Ok fine I'll turn on Bill Simmons notifications

You can turn them off

[tower912]

Celtics down 19 to the Pistons at halftime

Order being restored.

[GB Warrior]

You can turn them off

Still think they should get an in-game tournament banner for the first half

[WhiteTrash]

Still think they should get an in-game tournament banner for the first half

The Lakers would.

[rocket surgeon]

knicks acquire og anunoby, precious achiuwa, and malachi flynn for rj barrett and immanuel quickley and a 2nd round draft pick, but it's from detroit

i was wondering what the knicks were doing with quickley as his PT was diminished from last year.

[Uncle Rico]

Pistons nightmare is over

[Herman Cain]

Pistons end losing streak, beat shorthanded Raptors by 2

[wadesworld]

How is it that every college coach in the world can figure out how to use TV timeouts to get their star player(s) a few extra minutes of rest, but AG can't figure out how to not have Dame and Giannis each sit 5 straight game minutes, with 3 of them overlapping each other?

Giannis sits from 2 minutes left in the 3rd until 9 minutes left in the game, Dame sits the first 5 minutes of the fourth, and the Bucks go -20 in those minutes every game.  Neither sits a second from there on out.

How about you do what every competent coach in the world does and sit your guy at the last whistle before a TV timeout, keep them out after the timeout, and then get them back in the next whistle.  You can get 5 straight minutes of rest with only 1-2 minutes of game time being missed, or you can get them 5 straight minutes of rest with 5 minutes of game time being missed.  AG opts for the latter.

[MuggsyB]

SGA comparisons?  The dude can ball.  He seems to do everything pretty well. 

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

SGA comparisons?  The dude can ball.  He seems to do everything pretty well.

Michael Jordan

[MuggsyB]

Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

[BM1090]

Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

I try not to overreact to new star pairings with new coaches in the first 60 games or so, but there’s really been nothing to indicate he’s good enough. When they win it seems to be talent related. Nothing they do schematically seems better than other teams.

Talent may be enough if the defense improves over the next 50. But I don’t think they get to the finals because he out-coached anybody.

[Uncle Rico]

Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

Flawed roster, imo.  Old, too.  Lotta tread on them tires.  Not sure scheme matters much as far as the team is constructed.  I didn’t see a title team with this roster.  Others will disagree and maybe a different coach would have mattered but unless they can upgrade at the deadline, not sure it’s more than ECF at best

[MuggsyB]

The few times I've watched them I thought their defense looked mediocre. Middleton should be really good as a #3 but maybe he'll never be the same player after the injury?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Trading Jrue for Dame means you are just hoping to score a lot more because defensively it’s not going to be great.

And I think Middleton is just getting old.

[wadesworld]

Coaching is the biggest issue with the Bucks, but it’s far from the only issue. The fact that Khris Middleton is your closing stretch defensive “stopper” on Tyerese Haliburton tells you everything you need to know about the defense. The Bucks have two First Team All Defensive bigs on the roster, yet get beat on the boards consistently and give up a boatload of paint points every night. And then the transition defense is as bad as I’ve ever seen.

The whole narrative coming out of training camp was that there was no competitiveness in Bud’s camp and this is so much better. It certainly doesn’t show on the court. Giannis plays hard every night. Andre Jackson Jr. plays hard every night. Brook plays hard but can be exploited depending on the matchup. Otherwise there’s a lot of guys who shimmy over getting back to defend.

Would be a lot more surprised by an ECF appearance than I would a first round exit.

[MuggsyB]

Coaching is the biggest issue with the Bucks, but it’s far from the only issue. The fact that Khris Middleton is your closing stretch defensive “stopper” on Tyerese Haliburton tells you everything you need to know about the defense. The Bucks have two First Team All Defensive bigs on the roster, yet get beat on the boards consistently and give up a boatload of paint points every night. And then the transition defense is as bad as I’ve ever seen.

The whole narrative coming out of training camp was that there was no competitiveness in Bud’s camp and this is so much better. It certainly doesn’t show on the court. Giannis plays hard every night. Andre Jackson Jr. plays hard every night. Brook plays hard but can be exploited depending on the matchup. Otherwise there’s a lot of guys who shimmy over getting back to defend.

Would be a lot more surprised by an ECF appearance than I would a first round exit.

Any trading options?

[wadesworld]

Any trading options?

Not really with the second apron, very few tradeable picks, and not really any good contracts.

[MuggsyB]

Not really with the second apron, very few tradeable picks, and not really any good contracts.

I haven't been impressed with Griffin either.  I also don't believe the defensive drop off with the loss of Holiday explains 4 losses to Indiana and some of their other problems.  I think getting Lillard was a no brainer and as far as I can tell Beasley has been pretty good.  Do you make a bold move and hand the job to Doc Rivers before the All-Star break? 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I haven't been impressed with Griffin either.  I also don't believe the defensive drop off with the loss of Holiday explains 4 losses to Indiana and some of their other problems. 

I don't think it does either. I was specifically answering your question about the defense.

Dame was a no-question addition yes. The last group had topped out. But yeah I am beginning to think the Griffin addition was a mistake.

[MUfan12]

Hiring a rookie HC was a massive gamble, no matter who it was. But the fact that this cat got passed over a dozen times shoulda told them something.

They do next to nothing well defensively. And a good deal of that is roster... Khris moves like I do, Beasley and Lillard are minus defenders, and the bench unit of Payne/Portis/Connaughton are all bad on that end. But then he has them do sh*t like chase 10% three-point shooter TJ McConnell over screens out on the perimeter and get murdered at the rim.