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2023-24 NBA Thread

Started by Uncle Rico, June 27, 2023, 10:42:28 AM

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rocket surgeon

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 27, 2023, 03:33:34 PM
Congrats to the Pistons.

  time to bring back henry-put him in coach...only if wally were available though
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Its DJOver

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 28, 2023, 07:48:11 AM
My maxims aren't the problem.

I just asked a question, why are you attacking me?
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

Uncle Rico

Celtics down 19 to the Pistons at halftime
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

GB Warrior

Ok fine I'll turn on Bill Simmons notifications

Uncle Rico

Quote from: GB Warrior on December 28, 2023, 07:40:24 PM
Ok fine I'll turn on Bill Simmons notifications

You can turn them off
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 07:33:25 PM
Celtics down 19 to the Pistons at halftime
Order being restored.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 28, 2023, 07:57:48 PM
You can turn them off

Still think they should get an in-game tournament banner for the first half

WhiteTrash

Quote from: GB Warrior on December 28, 2023, 08:03:14 PM
Still think they should get an in-game tournament banner for the first half
The Lakers would.

rocket surgeon

knicks acquire og anunoby, precious achiuwa, and malachi flynn for rj barrett and immanuel quickley and a 2nd round draft pick, but it's from detroit

i was wondering what the knicks were doing with quickley as his PT was diminished from last year.

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Pistons nightmare is over
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Herman Cain

Pistons end losing streak, beat shorthanded Raptors by 2
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

wadesworld

How is it that every college coach in the world can figure out how to use TV timeouts to get their star player(s) a few extra minutes of rest, but AG can't figure out how to not have Dame and Giannis each sit 5 straight game minutes, with 3 of them overlapping each other?

Giannis sits from 2 minutes left in the 3rd until 9 minutes left in the game, Dame sits the first 5 minutes of the fourth, and the Bucks go -20 in those minutes every game.  Neither sits a second from there on out.

How about you do what every competent coach in the world does and sit your guy at the last whistle before a TV timeout, keep them out after the timeout, and then get them back in the next whistle.  You can get 5 straight minutes of rest with only 1-2 minutes of game time being missed, or you can get them 5 straight minutes of rest with 5 minutes of game time being missed.  AG opts for the latter.

MuggsyB

SGA comparisons?  The dude can ball.  He seems to do everything pretty well. 

Hidden User

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 02, 2024, 09:27:21 PM
SGA comparisons?  The dude can ball.  He seems to do everything pretty well.

Michael Jordan

MuggsyB

Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 03, 2024, 08:13:57 PM
Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

I try not to overreact to new star pairings with new coaches in the first 60 games or so, but there's really been nothing to indicate he's good enough. When they win it seems to be talent related. Nothing they do schematically seems better than other teams.

Talent may be enough if the defense improves over the next 50. But I don't think they get to the finals because he out-coached anybody.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 03, 2024, 08:13:57 PM
Pacers up big on the Bucks.  What's the local opinion on Griffin?

Flawed roster, imo.  Old, too.  Lotta tread on them tires.  Not sure scheme matters much as far as the team is constructed.  I didn't see a title team with this roster.  Others will disagree and maybe a different coach would have mattered but unless they can upgrade at the deadline, not sure it's more than ECF at best
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MuggsyB

The few times I've watched them I thought their defense looked mediocre. Middleton should be really good as a #3 but maybe he'll never be the same player after the injury?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Trading Jrue for Dame means you are just hoping to score a lot more because defensively it's not going to be great.

And I think Middleton is just getting old.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

wadesworld

Coaching is the biggest issue with the Bucks, but it's far from the only issue. The fact that Khris Middleton is your closing stretch defensive "stopper" on Tyerese Haliburton tells you everything you need to know about the defense. The Bucks have two First Team All Defensive bigs on the roster, yet get beat on the boards consistently and give up a boatload of paint points every night. And then the transition defense is as bad as I've ever seen.

The whole narrative coming out of training camp was that there was no competitiveness in Bud's camp and this is so much better. It certainly doesn't show on the court. Giannis plays hard every night. Andre Jackson Jr. plays hard every night. Brook plays hard but can be exploited depending on the matchup. Otherwise there's a lot of guys who shimmy over getting back to defend.

Would be a lot more surprised by an ECF appearance than I would a first round exit.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2024, 08:38:51 PM
Coaching is the biggest issue with the Bucks, but it's far from the only issue. The fact that Khris Middleton is your closing stretch defensive "stopper" on Tyerese Haliburton tells you everything you need to know about the defense. The Bucks have two First Team All Defensive bigs on the roster, yet get beat on the boards consistently and give up a boatload of paint points every night. And then the transition defense is as bad as I've ever seen.

The whole narrative coming out of training camp was that there was no competitiveness in Bud's camp and this is so much better. It certainly doesn't show on the court. Giannis plays hard every night. Andre Jackson Jr. plays hard every night. Brook plays hard but can be exploited depending on the matchup. Otherwise there's a lot of guys who shimmy over getting back to defend.

Would be a lot more surprised by an ECF appearance than I would a first round exit.

Any trading options?

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 03, 2024, 08:54:46 PM
Any trading options?

Not really with the second apron, very few tradeable picks, and not really any good contracts.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2024, 09:42:07 PM
Not really with the second apron, very few tradeable picks, and not really any good contracts.

I haven't been impressed with Griffin either.  I also don't believe the defensive drop off with the loss of Holiday explains 4 losses to Indiana and some of their other problems.  I think getting Lillard was a no brainer and as far as I can tell Beasley has been pretty good.  Do you make a bold move and hand the job to Doc Rivers before the All-Star break?  :)

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 04, 2024, 08:37:54 AM
I haven't been impressed with Griffin either.  I also don't believe the defensive drop off with the loss of Holiday explains 4 losses to Indiana and some of their other problems. 

I don't think it does either. I was specifically answering your question about the defense.

Dame was a no-question addition yes. The last group had topped out. But yeah I am beginning to think the Griffin addition was a mistake.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MUfan12

Hiring a rookie HC was a massive gamble, no matter who it was. But the fact that this cat got passed over a dozen times shoulda told them something.

They do next to nothing well defensively. And a good deal of that is roster... Khris moves like I do, Beasley and Lillard are minus defenders, and the bench unit of Payne/Portis/Connaughton are all bad on that end. But then he has them do sh*t like chase 10% three-point shooter TJ McConnell over screens out on the perimeter and get murdered at the rim.