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2023-24 NBA Thread

Started by Uncle Rico, June 27, 2023, 10:42:28 AM

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MU82

Bird was great, Muggs. Nobody knows if his back woulda given out even earlier if he had come out of college earlier. It's an impossible hypothetical.

Magic was great, too. I happen to think he was a little more impactful but that's just an opinion. Everyone has 'em. Don't sweat it.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 20, 2023, 03:48:06 PM
Yeah. No one played defense. You'd be shocked at the number of uncontested jumpers that players took then.
And don't forget that the ball was stuffed back then.

tower912

Bird was probably the best shooter of his generation.   NBA didn't emphasize the 3 like it does now.  If it did, and they routinely ran sets to get him 3's, he would have been filthier.  Not the GOAT, but one of the greats.   All time trash talker.  Look him up on YouTube.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on December 20, 2023, 04:20:36 PM
Bird was great, Muggs. Nobody knows if his back woulda given out even earlier if he had come out of college earlier. It's an impossible hypothetical.

Magic was great, too. I happen to think he was a little more impactful but that's just an opinion. Everyone has 'em. Don't sweat it.

I give Magic a slight edge too - but both were great players, top 10 all timers.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2023, 07:18:15 PM
I give Magic a slight edge too - but both were great players, top 10 all timers.

Loved watching them both. Examples 1 and 1A (in whatever order) of superstars who made their teammates much better.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

tower912

I'll take Bird, but it is close enough that I'm not willing to argue.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 20, 2023, 07:18:15 PM
I give Magic a slight edge too - but both were great players, top 10 all timers.

You're right, Lenny. But for some top 10 isn't enough.

MuggsyB

Who was a better defender Bird or Magic?  Didn't Magic guard the opposing 2G a lot?  From a historical standpoint I almost separate Wilt and Magic from the rest of the all-time greats.  They did things no one else did before them and in Magic's case his size at that position was the ultimate weapon and basically impossible to handle.  I do think Bird's game is more adaptable to this era.  I have Curry in my top 5.  I think everyone would have Jordan, Lebron, Kareem.  After that the slots are really tough. 

tower912

#1158
Neither one was a stellar on ball defender.  Adequate for the time, not lockdown.  Neither was exceptionally quick. Magic used his length to compensate for a lack of speed defending opposing guards.  Played off of them.  Bird was very good at positioning and getting in passing lanes.

Seriously, though, muggsy, if you want to be entertained, Google Larry Bird left handed game.   Or Larry Bird trash talk.   A good way to kill an hour.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Both had exceptional court vision as well.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on December 21, 2023, 07:38:57 AM
Neither one was a stellar on ball defender.  Adequate for the time, not lockdown.  Neither was exceptionally quick. Magic used his length to compensate for a lack of speed defending opposing guards.  Played off of them.  Bird was very good at positioning and getting in passing lanes.

Seriously, though, muggsy, if you want to be entertained, Google Larry Bird left handed game.   Or Larry Bird trash talk.   A good way to kill an hour.

I watched part of that!  That was very badass. 

MuggsyB

Congrats to the Pistons.  What's the record?

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 21, 2023, 09:11:18 PM
Congrats to the Pistons.  What's the record?

26...so one more

MuggsyB


MuggsyB

Congrats to the Pistons. 

Its DJOver

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 27, 2023, 03:33:34 PM
Congrats to the Pistons.

Am I seeing this right that the Pistons actually lost?

If so, why are you congratulating them?

That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do.

Does this not make sense to anyone else?

Explain.

Medieval.

Darkness.

WWATLT?
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 27, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Am I seeing this right that the Pistons actually lost?

If so, why are you congratulating them?

That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do.

Does this not make sense to anyone else?

Explain.

Medieval.

Darkness.

WWATLT?

Well, if youre gonna do something poorly might as well make it record breaking...

I think that was his congratulations.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 27, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Am I seeing this right that the Pistons actually lost?

If so, why are you congratulating them?



Sarcasm can be a tricky concept to understand.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on December 27, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
Sarcasm can be a tricky concept to understand.
I was really hoping there was a lot of sarcasm being posted by all. If not.....  :-\

Its DJOver

Quote from: Jockey on December 27, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
Sarcasm can be a tricky concept to understand.

They need to wake up.

They need to focus.

They need to attack.

Violence.

Step on their throats.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 27, 2023, 04:55:25 PM
They need to wake up.

They need to focus.

They need to attack.

Violence.

Step on their throats.

Yeah, it's not that hard
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 27, 2023, 05:02:19 PM
Yeah, it's not that hard

I'd have the problem solved immediately.  It's all part of my 5 point plan.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

JWags85

Toronto at home to close out 2023 is the best chance they get for awhile.  Cause then they have a West Coast swing where they will be close to double digit dogs each night.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

Quote from: Its DJOver on December 27, 2023, 04:20:03 PM
Am I seeing this right that the Pistons actually lost?

If so, why are you congratulating them?

That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do.

Does this not make sense to anyone else?

Explain.


Medieval.

Darkness.

WWATLT?

My maxims aren't the problem.