Thoughts and prayers to Dadeville, Alabama

[tower912]

You all know the drill.  Another unhappy person or persons with a gun lasting out.  Another community devastated.   


Thoughts and prayers to the officers and their families in Cyrus, Minnesota, as well.

[MU82]

Happened at a teenager's birthday party.

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/16/1170295326/at-least-4-people-were-killed-in-a-shooting-at-teens-birthday-party-in-alabama

Prayers, more prayers and even more prayers. That -- and lots and lots and lots of guns for all the good guys, obviously -- is the only possible solution.

[Uncle Rico]

What about Chicago?

[tower912]

Good hot dogs.  Bad sports teams.   Too much crime.   But per capita, not as bad as other places.

[Uncle Rico]

Good hot dogs.  Bad sports teams.   Too much crime.   But per capita, not as bad as other places.

Would better doors have helped?

[MU82]

For kids' birthday parties, include a Glock in every gift bag.

[MU82]

Fun times at the NRA convention ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/14/us/politics/nra-guns-republicans-2024.html?campaign_id=4&emc=edit_dk_20230414&instance_id=90192&nl=dealbook&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=130414&te=1&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa

They cited Scripture and issued calls for prayer. They applauded law enforcement and demanded tighter security in schools. They lamented the nation's mental health crisis and offered tough talk about the death penalty.

But as the most prominent current and potential Republican presidential candidates spoke before the annual gathering of the National Rifle Association, most virulently rejected the idea that more gun restrictions could curb bloodshed, even as two American cities are still mourning the latest massacres in the nation's gun violence epidemic.

"This is not a gun problem," insisted former President Donald J. Trump in a dark and meandering speech on Friday afternoon. "The only way to stop these wicked acts is to ensure that any sicko who would shoot up a school knows that within seconds, not minutes, they will face certain death." He also nodded to the party's focus on crime, saying that the issue is not too many guns, but "too many thugs, hoodlums and savage criminals on our street."

Mike Pence, Mr. Trump's vice president, who faced boos as he took the stage, also toed the line.

"Stop trampling on the God-given rights of the American people every time tragedy happens," Mr. Pence said, directing his comments at "gun control extremists."

And to warm applause, Gov. Kristi Noem of South Dakota signed an executive order onstage "to protect the God-given right to keep and bear arms from being infringed upon by financial institutions." (She later said her not-yet-2-year-old granddaughter already owns a rifle and a shotgun.)

In many ways, the gathering was part of a pattern — a devastating mass shooting, followed by Republican displays of fealty to a group that rejects even many modest efforts to curb gun violence — that underscores a central and deepening tension in the broader American culture wars.

In 2018, prominent Republicans affirmed their strong support for gun owners' rights at the N.R.A. meeting three months after a gunman had murdered 17 people in Parkland, Fla. In 2022, they descended on the N.R.A.'s event a few days after a gunman had killed 21 in Uvalde, Texas. And on Friday, they spoke at the N.R.A.'s convention in Indianapolis, even as Nashville and Louisville, Ky., are still grappling with the aftermath of recent mass shootings.

Despite a relentless drumbeat of gun violence that has outraged the public, galvanized a youth movement and spurred Democrats and some Republicans to action, conservative activists and organizations like the N.R.A. still often demand unwavering and effectively unlimited allegiance to the rights of gun owners, complicating any effort by candidates to meet the alarmed mood of the nation without alienating the base.

On Friday, some of the current and would-be candidates did not even attempt to navigate a balancing act.

"I've resisted calls to take up gun control even when such a stand is superficially unpopular," said Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who recently signed a bill allowing Florida residents to carry concealed guns without a permit. He spoke briefly by video, as did Nikki Haley, a former ambassador to the United Nations; Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina; and Mike Pompeo, a former secretary of state, who said Friday that he was not running for president.

"I understand that it is precisely at those moments when a right is unpopular that it needs true champions," Mr. DeSantis said.

Mr. Trump, for his part, focused only briefly on last month's shooting at a Nashville school during a lengthy address that, though well received, also saw attendees leaving in noticeable numbers about 40 minutes in. He highlighted a number of proposals related to the topic at hand, such as encouraging teachers to pursue concealed-carry firearm training, or a measure that would allow concealed-carry reciprocity across states.

[ATL MU Warrior]

God-given right to guns?  These people are fucking nuts. 

[Uncle Rico]

God-given right to guns?  These people are unnatural carnal knowledgeing nuts.

If Moses had a gun, things would have been a lot different, pal

[ATL MU Warrior]

If Moses had a gun, things would have been a lot different, pal

Maybe I missed an 11th commandment. Thou shalt have the right to keep and bear arms to blow the crap out of any motherfucker that angers thou. 

[Uncle Rico]

Maybe I missed an 11th commandment. Thou shalt have the right to keep and bear arms to blow the crap out of any motherunnatural carnal knowledgeer that angers thou.

The lame stream media won't report that

[21Jumpstreet]

No such thing as a god given right. Some even argue we made up rights in their entirety. So, we can remake them.

[tower912]

I neglected to offer thoughts and prayers once again to Louisville and to Chicago.  Mea culpa.

[Pakuni]

If Moses had a gun, things would have been a lot different, pal

Moses loved guns.

[dgies9156]

If Moses had a gun, things would have been a lot different, pal

Not really.

If Moses had guns, Pharaoh probably would have had tanks, cannons, automatic weapons and maybe a few F-16s (as in Faraoh 16s -- the German way), possibly a few B52s and if some marauding army hadn't spoiled things, nuclear weapons.

Moses would have had to resort to guerilla warfare, which was pretty tough on the Sinai Peninsula.

40 Years would have turned into a war that's STILL going on.

Oh wait, it is! 

[Uncle Rico]

Not really.

If Moses had guns, Pharaoh probably would have had tanks, cannons, automatic weapons and maybe a few F-16s (as in Faraoh 16s -- the German way), possibly a few B52s and if some marauding army hadn't spoiled things, nuclear weapons.

Moses would have had to resort to guerilla warfare, which was pretty tough on the Sinai Peninsula.

40 Years would have turned into a war that's STILL going on.

Oh wait, it is!

He'd be a bad ass, though

[MU82]

God-given right to guns?  These people are unnatural carnal knowledgeing nuts.

Read the bible, pal!

[Dickthedribbler]

Good hot dogs.  Bad sports teams.   Too much crime.   But per capita, not as bad as other places.

Other than the riot which took place in the Chicago Loop Saturday Evening-----the self described "" Teen Takeover"----where tourists and locals alike were set upon by roving gangs of kids and pulled from cars; multiple.people shot; stores ravaged-----other than that Chicago is a shining example of a city under control.

[Uncle Rico]

Other than the riot which took place in the Chicago Loop Saturday Evening-----the self described "" Teen Takeover"----where tourists and locals alike were set upon by roving gangs of kids and pulled from cars; multiple.people shot; stores ravaged-----other than that Chicago is a shining example of a city under control.

That's why I say "what about Chicago?"

Lame stream media likes to point out the hundreds of mass casualty events that happen across this country but ignore Chicago.  Just because every week has mass casualty shootings throughout the country, we should focus on Chicago

[ZiggysFryBoy]

That's why I say "what about Chicago?"

Lame stream media likes to point out the hundreds of mass casualty events that happen across this country but ignore Chicago.  Just because every week has mass casualty shootings throughout the country, we should focus on Chicago

"Schtick"

[tower912]

All part of the same problem.

[Uncle Rico]

All part of the same problem.

Sure is a common denominator, no?

[4everwarriors]

Well, if you're gonna keep electing the same lame ass politicians, what'll ya expect? Don't like it, change it, aina?

[tower912]

Again, we agree.  We disagree over who the problem is.

[Dickthedribbler]

Well, if you're gonna keep electing the same lame ass politicians, what'll ya expect? Don't like it, change it, aina?

Agree 100%. I live in Milwaukee, not Chicago, so it would be impossible for me to care less about what goes on in Chicago than I already do. If the morons who live and vote there want to vest control of the streets in the criminals and tie the hands of the cops, I don't give a chit. Have at it. Who am I to tell the citizens of Chicago how to live??