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StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Lens on August 24, 2023, 10:39:12 AM
You are missing the bigger picture, MU is working with their athletes to allow them to sell images that includes MU marks.  That's not insignificant.

It's actually a very big deal. I wonder if someone -- BTD NIL perhaps -- is paying MU to allow athletes to use the MU mark on their own merchandise. Would it be a NCAA violation if MU gave that right to the athletes for free? Are there still "NCAA violations" at all when it comes to athlete compensation?
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

The Sultan

Quote from: StillAWarrior on August 24, 2023, 02:15:28 PM
It's actually a very big deal. I wonder if someone -- BTD NIL perhaps -- is paying MU to allow athletes to use the MU mark on their own merchandise. Would it be a NCAA violation if MU gave that right to the athletes for free? Are there still "NCAA violations" at all when it comes to athlete compensation?

NCAA Interim Guidelines:

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2022/10/26/media-center-di-board-approves-clarifications-for-interim-nil-policy.aspx

"Schools also can support their enrolled college athletes in NIL activities directly by providing stock photos or graphics to either a student-athlete or an NIL entity or arranging space on campus for an entity and student-athlete to meet. Schools cannot, under the interim policy, provide free services (graphic designers, tax preparation or contract review) to student-athletes unless those services are available to the general student body, nor can schools offer equipment (cameras, graphics software or computers) to student-athletes to support NIL activities, unless that equipment is also available to the general student body."

Note that no MU logos are on Tyler's merchandise.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jay Bee

Quote from: The Lens on August 24, 2023, 10:39:12 AM
You are missing the bigger picture, MU is working with their athletes to allow them to sell images that includes MU marks.  That's not insignificant.

False! MU does not work with SAs to broker deals. MU CANNOT negotiate deals. MU requires prior approval from all companies who seek to use MU athletics logos.
The portal is NOT closed.

The Lens

I never said brokering deals I said they are working with them to allow of use of school marks and they are working with them to amplify the message. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

WhiteTrash

As far as how NIL is working in the real world (not the NCAA's imagination), my daughter's good friend is a second string DB for an AAC school. He gets $40k a year, doesn't know exactly where it comes from and has never been asked to endorse anything or work for any of the money.

lawdog77

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 24, 2023, 04:42:29 PM
As far as how NIL is working in the real world (not the NCAA's imagination), my daughter's good friend in a second sting DB for an AAC school. He gets $40k a year, doesn't know exactly where it comes from and has never been asked to endorse anything or work for any of the money.
Imagine if he was only stung once.

WhiteTrash


brewcity77

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 23, 2023, 05:10:55 AM
Nope

#FakeNews #Lies

They do indeed have a joint post, and the post links directly to the Marquette NIL Shop that is selling Tyler Kolek gear. Lens did not say that Marquette University is selling Tyler Kolek gear, but he was 100% accurate in saying "Marquette & Tyler have a joint post up selling Tyler gear.  The shirts features action shots of TK in MU uniform."

It's all about diagramming sentence structure.

Marquette & Tyler is the subject. To have is the verb and joint post is the direct object. Selling Tyler gear is the action of the direct object, not Marquette and not even Tyler. Lens was correct.

Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 25, 2023, 07:06:34 AM
#FakeNews #Lies

They do indeed have a joint post, and the post links directly to the Marquette NIL Shop that is selling Tyler Kolek gear. Lens did not say that Marquette University is selling Tyler Kolek gear, but he was 100% accurate in saying "Marquette & Tyler have a joint post up selling Tyler gear.  The shirts features action shots of TK in MU uniform."

It's all about diagramming sentence structure.

Marquette & Tyler is the subject. To have is the verb and joint post is the direct object. Selling Tyler gear is the action of the direct object, not Marquette and not even Tyler. Lens was correct.

#FakeNews #Lies

They do not have a joint post. They are included in a collaborative post authored by marquette.nil.store.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 09:07:57 AM
#FakeNews #Lies

They do not have a joint post. They are included in a collaborative post authored by marquette.nil.store.


That's pedantic even for you.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

brewcity77

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 09:07:57 AM
#FakeNews #Lies

They do not have a joint post. They are included in a collaborative post authored by marquette.nil.store.

If it were only shared by the marquette.nil.store and tagged marquette.basketball I would agree. But that's not the case. It was shared by the Marquette Basketball account. That directly means Marquette Basketball made a post selling Tyler Kolek gear. If you go to Marquette Basketball and scroll their individual feed that post is there whether you follow marquette.nil.store or not. I know you're trying to be pedantic, but in this case you're simply wrong.

wadesworld

They are, at the very least, endorsing and promoting the NIL Store.

Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 25, 2023, 09:58:17 AM
That directly means Marquette Basketball made a post selling Tyler Kolek gear.

marquette.nil.store authored it. #muMbb ok'd it as a collaborative post. #muMbb did not write it. 
The portal is NOT closed.

brewcity77

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 10:15:46 AM
marquette.nil.store authored it. #muMbb ok'd it as a collaborative post. #muMbb did not write it.

No one here ever said they did. Who wrote it is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

Jay Bee

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 25, 2023, 10:23:48 AM
No one here ever said they did. Who wrote it is completely irrelevant to the discussion.

So, when you claimed that Marquette "directly" "made a post", you were simply agreeing with me that they ok'd a collaboration post authored by a third party? Great!
The portal is NOT closed.

lawdog77

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
So, when you claimed that Marquette "directly" "made a post", you were simply agreeing with me that they ok'd a collaboration post authored by a third party? Great!
Are you like this in real life?

Spotcheck Billy

Let me guess, JB is not in long term relationships much is he?

Jay Bee

The portal is NOT closed.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Ax yo girl hey

My wife would never tolerate your nit picking.


tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 25, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
So, when you claimed that Marquette "directly" "made a post", you were simply agreeing with me that they ok'd a collaboration post authored by a third party? Great!

The L is sitting right there in your lap. You can try to deny its existence all you want, but it belongs to you. Cheers :)

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on August 25, 2023, 10:57:57 AM
Let me guess, JB is not in long term relationships much is he?
Once you realize he is repressed and closeted, probably due to his overbearing religious upbringing, his posts make a lot more sense.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on August 25, 2023, 04:41:08 PM
Once you realize he is repressed and closeted, probably due to his overbearing religious upbringing, his posts make a lot more sense.

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