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duanewade

A 4 seed, two 5 seeds and a 9 seed make the Final 4.

Meanwhile all the top seeded teams and/or the top NIL paying basketball schools either failed to make the tournament or were done before the end of the first weekend. 

My abysmal Chase Savings account that pays a mere .10% in comparison to 9% real inflation all the sudden doesn't look like such a poor investment in comparison to NIL basketball donations.

Truly shocking!  Can't believe paying 18 to 22 year olds who are still kids and learning about life and money would turn out to be such a bad investment to make.  No one saw this coming! ::) 

BrewCity83

How do you know which are the top NIL paying basketball schools?
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: duanewade on March 29, 2023, 10:45:45 AM
A 4 seed, two 5 seeds and a 9 seeds make the Final 4.

Meanwhile all the top seeded teams and/or the top NIL paying basketball schools either failed to make the tournament or were done before the end of the first weekend. 

My abysmal Chase Savings account that pays a mere .10% in comparison to 9% real inflation all the sudden doesn't look like such a poor investment in comparison to NIL basketball donations.

Truly shocking!  Can't believe paying 18 to 22 year olds who are still kids and learning about life and money would turn out to be such a bad investment to make.  No one saw this coming! ::)

Isn't Miami regarded as one of the most aggressive NIL programs out there?
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tower912

If Shaka hired a gray haired assistant,  NIL wouldn't be necessary.
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Jay Bee

What is an NIL paying basketball school? Not allowed.

The best teams are those who reward their student-athletes with extravagant milkshakes
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wadesworld

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 29, 2023, 11:00:42 AM
What is an NIL paying basketball school? Not allowed.

The best teams are those who reward their student-athletes with extravagant milkshakes

But if you combine the amounts that the school itself, the unaffiliated NIL collectives, and local businesses/restaurants giving players deals and/or money for advertising them then you have NIL paying basketball schools.  Why do you ignore this?

MU82

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brewcity77

Posting this after watching Nijel Pack and Norchad Omier play major roles in bringing Miami to their first Final Four ever is certainly a choice.  ;D ;D ;D

The Equalizer

Quote from: StillAWarrior link=topic=64704.msg1542223#msg1542223 date=
Isn't Miami regarded as one of the most aggressive NIL programs out there?

Miami is ahead of the curve

https://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2023/03/28/final-four-nil-marketing-power-of-um-fau-teams.html

"The LifeWallet deal with Kansas State transfer Nijel Pack was reportedly $800,000 for two years, and he wound up winning MVP of the Midwest Region in the NCAA Tournament. The LifeWallet team also includes his teammates Jordan Miller, Norchad Omier and Atlantic Coast Conference Player of the Year Isaiah Wong. As the Hurricanes head to a high-profile national semifinal game and enjoy a week of pre-game publicity, Ruiz's LifeWallet brand also will garner the spotlight."

Far from concluding this is a poor investment, the success of Miami this year is going to be held up as the example that if you do NIL right, it definitely leads to success. 

The other problem with the original post is that it only considers the final result in its definition of success--I doubt Houston is not going to give up on lining up NIL for players because they were upset before the final four.  The learning there is that their NIL program put them in a position to succeed this year.  They fell short, but that doesn't mean it was a poor investment.


FartyEightHours

If there's a billionaire who wants to waste money on it feel free. They were before anyway just under the table.  But I ain't paying a player.
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HouWarrior

Quote from: duanewade on March 29, 2023, 10:45:45 AM

Meanwhile all the top seeded teams and/or the top NIL paying basketball schools either failed to make the tournament or were done before the end of the first weekend. 



Here is an actual listing of top 100 NILers in college BB...they are all over numerous teams, including on FF teams;

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/basketball/

I fail to see any of the pattern or correlation you claim

There is short sample period on NIL info., but it is safe to say the best players are getting more NIL
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CountryRoads

Quote from: HouWarrior on March 29, 2023, 11:55:27 AM
Here is an actual listing of top 100 NILers in college BB...they are all over numerous teams, including on FF teams;

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/basketball/

I fail to see any of the pattern or correlation you claim

There is short sample period on NIL info., but it is safe to say the best players are getting more NIL

From the site:

"While the algorithm includes deal data, it does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals athletes have completed to date, nor does it set an athlete's NIL valuation for their entire career."

Looks like mostly a side project that throws social media followers, stats, and their team into a blender and spits out a "valuation."

lawdog77

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 29, 2023, 12:02:34 PM
From the site:

"While the algorithm includes deal data, it does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals athletes have completed to date, nor does it set an athlete's NIL valuation for their entire career."

Looks like mostly a side project that throws social media followers, stats, and their team into a blender and spits out a "valuation."
Except for #40 on that list. That is the exact amount the MU donor paid to keep him from going to UW.

Jay Bee

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 29, 2023, 12:02:34 PM
From the site:

"While the algorithm includes deal data, it does not act as a tracker of the value of NIL deals athletes have completed to date, nor does it set an athlete's NIL valuation for their entire career."

Looks like mostly a side project that throws social media followers, stats, and their team into a blender and spits out a "valuation."

Yes. Crystal Bowel Part II
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tower912

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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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BrewCity83

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MU82

Quote from: tower912 on March 29, 2023, 01:30:07 PM
Selling Apple at $90

Oh, behave!

(And for the record, that's 2 splits ago $90 when Smuggles said to sell.)
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Lol. Miami making the Final Four is only going to make NIL money get even stupider in the short term. They are the poster child for buying a team with NIL money.
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burger

There is no bad investment money if you are a 2%er and are diversified.   Yes.   Those are 9 digit people with cash flow.

AKA.....Don't be Sharon Stone and have $40 mildo in SVB......Really.....

The climb from a 4 to 6% is logarithimic in this country.

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