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MuggsyB

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2023, 07:39:11 PM »
Agreed……Izzo makes teams walk away from the tournament and say how did we play so bad?

I respectfully couldn't agree less with you.  This game had nothing to do with Izzo.   

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2023, 07:41:59 PM »
We had the 4th best offense in the country.  This loss was about the turns and Kolek not being himself.

Not just Kolek.   The team did not pick him up and generally played poorly with costly turnovers, the flagrant, missed open shots etc.  just a bad game for the team at a tough part of the year to have one

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2023, 07:42:42 PM »
MU should have won by 10.  mSU was mediocre tonight, MU was just flat out bad.

All they did was capitalize on our worst game of the year by a mile. 

I can’t stand them. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2023, 07:43:46 PM »
This game had nothing to do with Izzo.
Just so I’m clear…..you are saying that this game had NOTHING to do with Izzo????

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2023, 07:44:44 PM »
Just so I’m clear…..you are saying that this game had NOTHING to do with Izzo????

Well, he is their coach, so there’s that. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2023, 07:45:18 PM »
IMO, MU did not beat themselves, but didn’t do themselves any favors. Inexperience was exposed and they lost the game.

Doc mentioned the ‘71 loss and that was far more painful. This team put themselves in position for a long run and fell short. ‘71 days s still tough one to this day.

For the record, I predicted MU by 25+ back on ‘71
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MuggsyB

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2023, 07:47:57 PM »
Just so I’m clear…..you are saying that this game had NOTHING to do with Izzo????

Zero.  Mich St.shot terribly as well.  Their defense was good but these were primarily self-inflicted mistakes. 

There will likely be three S16 BEast teams.  MU was clearly the best BEast team and at the wrong time played a piss poor overall game. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2023, 07:48:56 PM »
Not just Kolek.   The team did not pick him up and generally played poorly with costly turnovers, the flagrant, missed open shots etc.  just a bad game for the team at a tough part of the year to have one

I agree with Muggsy, it does boil down to Kolek. While it’s true no one picked him up, a team only goes as far as their best player.  True in any sport.  Postseason is where they especially have to play like stars to advance.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2023, 07:50:29 PM »
the fact that xavier, uconn advancing and creighton in great position while we are headed home adds insult to injury

MuggsyB

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2023, 07:55:00 PM »
IMO, MU did not beat themselves, but didn’t do themselves any favors. Inexperience was exposed and they lost the game.

Doc mentioned the ‘71 loss and that was far more painful. This team put themselves in position for a long run and fell short. ‘71 days s still tough one to this day.

For the record, I predicted MU by 25+ back on ‘71

I disagree.  We had possession after possession after possession where we had the ball up 2 or 3.  And we kicked the ball away Goose.  8 times in like 12 possessions.  Mich St.  didn't do anything differently than they had all game defensively. We made poor decisions and shot ourselves in the foot.  And frankly we never found our game again once we regained the lead 42-40. 
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2023, 07:55:20 PM »
I would trade all regular season accolades for a second weekend run in March every single year.

Let’s be honest with ourselves for a moment, Conference titles are very forgettable.

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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2023, 07:55:42 PM »
I would trade all regular season accolades for a second weekend run in March every single year.

Let’s be honest with ourselves for a moment, Conference titles are very forgettable.

First steps and all that jazz
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2023, 07:56:48 PM »
I would trade all regular season accolades for a second weekend run in March every single year.

Let’s be honest with ourselves for a moment, Conference titles are very forgettable.
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2023, 07:56:51 PM »
Disappointing end to the season but what a season it was. Hopefully the team stays largely in tact. I expect a lot of growth this offseason.

A huge thanks to the team! You bring and brought a ton of joy to me this year. One that honestly would have sucked without this team to root for.

On to next year.
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2023, 07:59:19 PM »
IMO, MU did not beat themselves, but didn’t do themselves any favors. Inexperience was exposed and they lost the game.

Doc mentioned the ‘71 loss and that was far more painful. This team put themselves in position for a long run and fell short. ‘71 days s still tough one to this day.

For the record, I predicted MU by 25+ back on ‘71

I agree the 1971 loss was bad, but started a decade of winning every, single year.  Top of the rankings. Maybe tonights loss can start the same.

If my memory recalls and I may be wrong, I thought you attended MU in early 1980's. If so, was a strong prediction for a very, very young fella. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2023, 08:00:52 PM »
the fact that xavier, uconn advancing and creighton in great position while we are headed home adds insult to injury

It further elucidates many points that are being made here. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2023, 08:00:59 PM »
Jake

This team meant a lot to me for personal reasons, and it was the excitement I needed. Shaka’s words and message resonated to me and it felt great to be part of something special.

We will have to have that cigar and bourbon next season. Thanks for bringing extra juice to scoop this season.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2023, 08:03:18 PM »
Let’s be honest with ourselves for a moment, Conference titles are very forgettable.

I won't forget this one. Foundation has been set.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2023, 08:03:58 PM »
It further elucidates many points that are being made here.
Opponents have nothing to do with advancing in the tournament….

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2023, 08:07:53 PM »
I would trade all regular season accolades for a second weekend run in March every single year.

Let’s be honest with ourselves for a moment, Conference titles are very forgettable.
So if Creighton loses next game, you would take their season over ours? I would rather have the BE regular season , BET title, and a second round flameout over a third place season and losing in the sweet 16.

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« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2023, 08:08:22 PM »
So if Creighton loses next game, you would take their season over ours? I would rather have the BE regular season , BET title, and a second round flameout over a third place season and losing in the sweet 16.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2023, 08:08:30 PM »
Opponents have nothing to do with advancing in the tournament….

Fully realize this, yet it is undeniable that these teams we have beat all regular season are still alive while we are headed home.

postseason success really defines a great season. we had the opportunity to make a real run and squandered it. massively disappointing.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2023, 08:09:40 PM »
So if Creighton loses next game, you would take their season over ours? I would rather have the BE regular season , BET title, and a second round flameout over a third place season and losing in the sweet 16.
Hate to say it but a sweet 16 year is more memorable than a big East championship plus 2nd round flameout imo

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2023, 08:09:45 PM »
Chitown…

I agree.  I’d gladly give up a BET title for a S16.  Any and every time.


The NCAAT is what counts. 

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« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2023, 08:10:19 PM »
So if Creighton loses next game, you would take their season over ours? I would rather have the BE regular season , BET title, and a second round flameout over a third place season and losing in the sweet 16.

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