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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #125 on: March 19, 2023, 08:51:53 PM »
Vol …

Maybe they roll next year, maybe not.

I hope they do … but you never know

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #126 on: March 19, 2023, 08:55:00 PM »
Atl Warrior

I agree on your recap of our guards. I think we will see changes next season.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #127 on: March 19, 2023, 08:56:54 PM »
I don’t disagree. But I have an awful hard time dwelling too much on this loss. This was the most overachieving Marquette team I can ever remember. Hard to feel too bad that they underachieved in one game against a Hall of Fame coach and a pretty decent team. Was Matean Cleaves or Draymond Green on the floor today? No. But it’s not like MSU is a low major. They scouted us like an NBA team would and we just didn’t have it. Totally sucks. But so proud of this season and this team.

I get that, truly I do, but expectations for this team changed dramatically once we saw some of our games as early as December.  They changed dramatically once we realized we had one of the best players in the country and a very solid roster overall.   That doesn't mean I'm not proud of these guys, or that I have a tendency to dwell on stuff, but I felt like a deep run was right there for us and you just never know what can happen season to season. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #128 on: March 19, 2023, 08:58:09 PM »
Boy, I wasn't sure but since you definitively said so, I guess it must be true.

(About Kolek/Hand injury/poor play today)

He was asked this exact question in the post-game presser.  He said his hand was fine.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #129 on: March 19, 2023, 08:59:26 PM »
(About Kolek/Hand injury/poor play today)

He was asked this exact question in the post-game presser.  He said his hand was fine.

Pretty clear with his play the past two games that it wasn’t fine. Savvy move to downplay the injury instead of using it as an excuse.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #130 on: March 19, 2023, 08:59:32 PM »
Same here, brother. This team was/is special. There wasn’t a team left I didn’t know we could beat. Today was just a hurricane of things going wrong. Single elimination tournaments are a b*#%tch

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #131 on: March 19, 2023, 08:59:55 PM »
Winning at a high level is hard as fook and it's not gonna get easier.

Just gotta hope the guys keep developing and the chemistry remains rock solid. I feel good about that happening.

It was an opportunity missed, but if channeled the right way could lead to some beautiful things next season.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #132 on: March 19, 2023, 09:02:10 PM »
Pretty clear with his play the past two games that it wasn’t fine. Savvy move to downplay the injury instead of using it as an excuse.

I don’t know about Savvy. If it’s hurt, it’s hurt. You have 9 months to heal. No reason to downplay it…. If it’s actually an injury

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #133 on: March 19, 2023, 09:08:10 PM »
Atl Warrior

I agree on your recap of our guards. I think we will see changes next season.


I agree on your agree -  guard play will step up next year

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #134 on: March 19, 2023, 09:10:19 PM »
I think any starter that returns will start next year.     I think every player has room for improvement and I think they will. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #135 on: March 19, 2023, 09:12:01 PM »
I really don’t see how his thumb on his non shooting hand being hurt was THAT devastating…

He shot ok … seemed to dribble w / both hands.   He just made awful decisions …

His hand did not get him in foul trouble. And he threw the ball away time after time

I feel bad for him.  It’s gotta suck.
I’m sure he feels terrible… but it was not just his thumb

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #136 on: March 19, 2023, 09:12:45 PM »
A couple of minor points but do you think the OMAX/Joey play should have been a F1 and was that a goaltending on TyKo's lay-up? 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #137 on: March 19, 2023, 09:16:30 PM »
I really don’t see how his thumb on his non shooting hand being hurt was THAT devastating…

He shot ok … seemed to dribble w / both hands.   He just made awful decisions …

His hand did not get him in foul trouble. And he threw the ball away time after time

I feel bad for him.  It’s gotta suck.
I’m sure he feels terrible… but it was not just his thumb

He didn’t shoot “ok” he looked freakin terrible out there.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #138 on: March 19, 2023, 09:17:03 PM »
Just got done watching after being stuck on unnatural carnal knowledgeing planes all day. Mother unnatural carnal knowledgeing cock sucker of a unnatural carnal knowledgeing game. unnatural carnal knowledge unnatural carnal knowledge unnatural carnal knowledge unnatural carnal knowledge. My god we could not have played like more unnatural carnal knowledgeing dogcrap than that holy unnatural carnal knowledge

Well said.  🤣🤣

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #139 on: March 19, 2023, 09:18:10 PM »
A couple of minor points but do you think the OMAX/Joey play should have been a F1 and was that a goaltending on TyKo's lay-up?

I thought it was goaltending as I thought the ball got to the glass but it was close.

MuggsyB

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #140 on: March 19, 2023, 09:19:49 PM »
I really don’t see how his thumb on his non shooting hand being hurt was THAT devastating…

He shot ok … seemed to dribble w / both hands.   He just made awful decisions …

His hand did not get him in foul trouble. And he threw the ball away time after time

I feel bad for him.  It’s gotta suck.
I’m sure he feels terrible… but it was not just his thumb

I tend to agree with you.  I think he pressed a bit and just wasn't himself.

One more point I'd like to make.  When we changed the tempo early in the 2H I thought we were on our way to controlling the game.  Instead, we mistakenly played too fast in our half-court sets.   

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #141 on: March 19, 2023, 09:20:09 PM »
A couple of minor points but do you think the OMAX/Joey play should have been a F1 and was that a goaltending on TyKo's lay-up?

Well he half strangled Hauser, so yeah if that isn’t an F1 nothing is.

Like Steratore said, goaltending or not was extremely close call.  I think it was though, looks it grazed the glass and then blocked away.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #142 on: March 19, 2023, 09:22:10 PM »
A couple of minor points but do you think the OMAX/Joey play should have been a F1 and was that a goaltending on TyKo's lay-up?
Looked like a GT and a very big blown call if it was. Game changer
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #143 on: March 19, 2023, 09:22:47 PM »
The fact that we were 9-25 from 2pt range is crazy. 

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #144 on: March 19, 2023, 09:23:09 PM »
Muggsy

I am equally disappointed, I was the fxxk head that said we would win by 10+, but realistic. Winning in March is hard, harder for team with no March success in a decade.

I told my wife after the win on Friday, we had two kids graduate college, two kids kids get married, three grandkids welcomed to our family and our kids bought four houses since the last time MU won in NCAA. That puts things in perspective for me.

Building a program is not a straight line. Today is a step backwards and time to get better.


Goose:

Not a step back.  Just a reset.

The future is bright!

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #145 on: March 19, 2023, 09:28:44 PM »
Ziggy

No doubt. How’s the weather?

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #146 on: March 19, 2023, 09:30:56 PM »
Well he half strangled Hauser, so yeah if that isn’t an F1 nothing is.

Like Steratore said, goaltending or not was extremely close call.  I think it was though, looks it grazed the glass and then blocked away.

Ya....I guess that's right.  Unless there is a unusual auxiliary rule regarding epistolary former team members.  :)

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #147 on: March 19, 2023, 09:35:39 PM »
The game was lost in that stretch where we got like 8 consecutive stops but proceeded to self-destruct with unconscionable turns combined with 3 or 4 wide open missed looks.  We had all of the momentum and these were self-inflicted turns.  This is going to sting for awhile.  Losing always sucks but when you beat yourself that's incredibly frustrating to put it mildly.  Phenomenal year but we really threw away a tremendous opportunity.

Yup Yup Yup, this one going to hurt for awhile, this team was special :(
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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #148 on: March 19, 2023, 09:40:41 PM »
Ziggy

No doubt. How’s the weather?

80* and beautiful.  Baked like a Lobster.

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Re: Beyond Painful
« Reply #149 on: March 19, 2023, 09:42:33 PM »
Ziggy

Enjoy.

 

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