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Hards Alumni

Quote from: WarriorFan on April 15, 2024, 11:03:49 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for solar on rooftops and anywhere else that's possible.  I struggle when it's suddenly more important than farmland or open space.

Then you're a dunce.  The US has an abundance of farmland, and we grow far more food than we need.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 16, 2024, 08:53:36 AM
Does your utility actually send you money?  I got a quote for installing last year, but CO (Xcel) just credits you the kWh you produce on your bill**.  I already have a large negative balance because of a heat pump install credit, so I need to wait about another year until that gets used up.   

** There is apparently an option for cash-out at the end of every year, but it's also only the "wholesale" rate.  Plus, I have exclusively electric heat, so December pay out vs Dec solar production makes no sense in CO.

I thought they were legally obligated to pay you out.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 17, 2024, 01:25:09 PM
I thought they were legally obligated to pay you out.

For solar production?  That may vary by state.  As mentioned, I *would* have that option (once, annually), but the payout is very low compared to retail electric rates vs a 1-1 kW credit if taken ...as credits.

MU82

Analysts, always late to the game, are now finally downgrading TSLA stock as its price falls toward $150.

I read a good line on social media today:

Half the country hates EVs, and the other half hates Elon Musk.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MU82 on April 18, 2024, 08:09:42 AM
Analysts, always late to the game, are now finally downgrading TSLA stock as its price falls toward $150.

I read a good line on social media today:

Half the country hates EVs, and the other half hates Elon Musk.

"Sorry Tesla workers, we need to lay off 14,000 of you to make the company more competitive. And also, shareholders need to vote to give me a $56B pay package after the courts struck down my $47B pay package. Thanks."
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 18, 2024, 09:23:05 AM
"Sorry Tesla workers, we need to lay off 14,000 of you to make the company more competitive. And also, shareholders need to vote to give me a $56B pay package after the courts struck down my $47B pay package. Thanks."


JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on April 18, 2024, 08:09:42 AM
Analysts, always late to the game, are now finally downgrading TSLA stock as its price falls toward $150.

I read a good line on social media today:

Half the country hates EVs, and the other half hates Elon Musk.

I don't think its that they are late to the game, they need to wait till their bank or firm has closed their TSLA longs or gotten short positions in place.  The days of upgrades/downgrades being anything more than biased/monied momentum shift tools is long gone, IMO.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 18, 2024, 09:23:05 AM
"Sorry Tesla workers, we need to lay off 14,000 of you to make the company more competitive. And also, shareholders need to vote to give me a $56B pay package after the courts struck down my $47B pay package. Thanks."

This is a play to secure job security right? Issue him more stock control?
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

rocket surgeon

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on April 18, 2024, 09:23:05 AM
"Sorry Tesla workers, we need to lay off 14,000 of you to make the company more competitive. And also, shareholders need to vote to give me a $56B pay package after the courts struck down my $47B pay package. Thanks."

sometimes that's business.  it might actually give the stock a little short term boost

businesses are also figuring out the gubmint can't force people to buy things they don't want or cannot afford

I also saw this coming a couple of months ago and sold my Tesla stock accordingly...one of the few times I can honestly say that I timed one right
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands



TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2024, 08:22:42 AM
https://x.com/phil_lewis_/status/1781294777830432868?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

If the cybertruck looks like the brainchild of an emotionally stunted 12-year-old boy, it's because it is.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WellsstreetWanderer

A neighbor has one. It looks like someone painted a rat rod

Uncle Rico

One of the guys I golf with ordered a new Tesla today.  Made fun of him for driving an EV but congratulated him on owning the LIBS
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

From the Wall Street Journal:

For years, the biggest cohort of Tesla's buyers, politically speaking, has been Democrats. But when Elon Musk took a hard turn last fall, they didn't follow him. The proportion of Democrats buying Teslas fell by more than 60%, according to car buyers surveyed in October and November by researcher Strategic Vision. Tesla has since made up ground with blue buyers, but the dramatic drop highlights the risk hanging over Tesla with an increasingly political CEO, writes the WSJ's Tim Higgins. All eyes will be on the carmaker's earnings report later this week, as investors scrutinize how it is contending with a slowing EV market.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on April 20, 2024, 01:09:11 PM
A neighbor has one. It looks like someone painted a rat rod

The ones that I have seen are all modded.  Honestly, have not seen one that is stock metal color.  Wrapped seems to be the most common.

WellsstreetWanderer

My neighbors is white. That's the only one I've seen.

Lennys Tap

Just saw a report on NBC Nightly News that EVs lose their value 10 times faster than gas powered vehicles. On average, over 30% in year one. I assume Lester Holt wasn't lying to me so I'll ask the obvious question - why?

jesmu84

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 26, 2024, 06:06:24 PM
Just saw a report on NBC Nightly News that EVs lose their value 10 times faster than gas powered vehicles. On average, over 30% in year one. I assume Lester Holt wasn't lying to me so I'll ask the obvious question - why?

Technology leaps

BrewCity83

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 26, 2024, 06:06:24 PM
Just saw a report on NBC Nightly News that EVs lose their value 10 times faster than gas powered vehicles. On average, over 30% in year one. I assume Lester Holt wasn't lying to me so I'll ask the obvious question - why?

Besides the technology leaps, who wants to invest in a used $25K battery?
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

jesmu84

Quote from: BrewCity83 on April 29, 2024, 11:58:51 AM
Besides the technology leaps, who wants to invest in a used $25K battery?

Who wants to invest in a used engine?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 29, 2024, 12:05:15 PM
Who wants to invest in a used engine?

Resale values are very high...so, lots of people.

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 26, 2024, 06:06:24 PM
Just saw a report on NBC Nightly News that EVs lose their value 10 times faster than gas powered vehicles. On average, over 30% in year one. I assume Lester Holt wasn't lying to me so I'll ask the obvious question - why?

Early adapters tend not to want old things.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on April 29, 2024, 02:44:22 PM
Early adapters tend not to want old things.

And tend to make poor investments.

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