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shoothoops

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« on: February 17, 2023, 08:36:14 AM »
Opening Day.

The fun continues through June.

« Last Edit: January 24, 2024, 10:09:59 AM by shoothoops »

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 06:48:09 PM »
NCAA Post season begins tomorrow.
Another great season the past 3.5 months, with a month to go.

Would have liked to have seen a few more West Coast teams make the tourney.

Will the SEC continue its run of 5 of past 8 National Titles? (Vandy 2, Florida, Mississippi St. Ole Miss) and 8 of the last 12 including South Carolina 2, LSU.

8 of 14 SEC teams are hosting a regional. 10 made the NCAA Tourney. The 2 that missed their conference tourney won the past two College World Series. 2 more that missed the NCAA Tourney dismissed their coaches.

Xavier (conference tourney winner) and UConn (had a good season) are representing the Big East in the Vandy and Florida regionals.

Wake Forest is legit. Not a surprise that Erik Bakich has Clemson rolling but in year 1 is impressive.

There are at least a half dozen mid majors that can make a deep run.

Should be fun.









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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 08:13:05 PM »
The amount of traction this thread has received since June sums up my excitement about college baseball.

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 08:23:07 PM »
The amount of traction this thread has received since June sums up my excitement about college baseball.

That isn’t how or why I post, to gain traction. I posted it because I enjoy it. If you or someone else does too great, if not, feel free to ignore or skip a thread.


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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2023, 12:25:09 PM »
Would have liked to have seen a few more West Coast teams make the tourney.

During the broadcast of the UC Santa Barbara-Long Beach State baseball game in the middle of May, play-by-play man Mike Ferrin relayed the conversation he had with NCAA Selection Committee Chairman John Cohen, the former Mississippi State head coach and current athletic director at Auburn. In that conversation Ferrin said that Cohen apparently admitted, “On the East Coast it’s tough to follow West Coast baseball” and called it “a blind spot” for him. At least he was being honest!

Disappointed that the Big West voted to bring back the conference baseball championship, as early as the 2025 season. It was the final NCAA Division I conference to not hold a postseason baseball championship.

Given the east coast bias, I think the conference tournament will hurt rather than help them. No guarantee the regular season conference champion gets an at large bid if they are knocked out in the post season tournament unless they have 30+ wins.

Glad to see the Fullerton Titans are back!!! Hoping for another walk off this weekend at Sunken Diamond to send Stanford home for the season - https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/23682418

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 01:22:23 PM »
During the broadcast of the UC Santa Barbara-Long Beach State baseball game in the middle of May, play-by-play man Mike Ferrin relayed the conversation he had with NCAA Selection Committee Chairman John Cohen, the former Mississippi State head coach and current athletic director at Auburn. In that conversation Ferrin said that Cohen apparently admitted, “On the East Coast it’s tough to follow West Coast baseball” and called it “a blind spot” for him. At least he was being honest!

Disappointed that the Big West voted to bring back the conference baseball championship, as early as the 2025 season. It was the final NCAA Division I conference to not hold a postseason baseball championship.

Given the east coast bias, I think the conference tournament will hurt rather than help them. No guarantee the regular season conference champion gets an at large bid if they are knocked out in the post season tournament unless they have 30+ wins.

Glad to see the Fullerton Titans are back!!! Hoping for another walk off this weekend at Sunken Diamond to send Stanford home for the season - https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/23682418

Irvine, ASU, USC, UCSB were all worthy teams this year. It didn't help the others when UCLA faded a bit. RPI is a limited metric. And you have 3 CA schools in the same regional. There was some discussion about U of A getting in with their league record. But too much of the discussion was about them or a different conference school, either/or vs both. There were some other solid teams too in the WCC, (Santa Clara is a nice story. LMU had a good team).Big West, (UCSD, Hawaii, CSUN).and even the WAC (with GCU.) It's good for the game to have more of that geographical balance.

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 02:37:47 PM »
Is TCU a threat? They tore through the Big XII tournament in record setting fashion. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2023, 04:03:06 PM »
Is TCU a threat? They tore through the Big XII tournament in record setting fashion.

TCU is legit. They struggled mid season with their pitching depth on the back end and then they inserted two Freshmen (Klecker and Rodriguez) as starters which helped turn their season around and, has made them a hot team going into the postseason. But Rodriguez is questionable for the regional.

They win with offense up and down the lineup, a big hitter like Boyers. and supplement it with lots of speed and aggression on the bases. They will want and need higher scoring games.

Arkansas is good, especially pitching. One of the best in K’s per 9 innings. They miss a lot of bats. Balanced hitting up and down the lineup but not a lot of stars. Very good at home. TCU had a hot and dominant May after being shaky midseason. But few of those were on the road and definitely not in as tough of an environment.

Arizona is also a hot team. And they are a big slugging offensive power team and not a lot of pitching. They don’t strikeout many and don’t walk many. Pitch to contact.

Santa Clara hits for high average, little power. Bullpen is their strength.

If TCU gets good enough pitching and gets into higher scoring bullpen games they can win their regional. Which TCU will show up? The 14-2 team to finish the season or their midseason version or something else? We’ll see.

The “chalk” of the regional is Arkansas pitching vs a couple of scoring teams in TCU and U of A and a singles machine team in SCU.


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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2023, 05:17:11 PM »
RPI is a limited metric. And you have 3 CA schools in the same regional.

Not sure if you caught the RPI discussion on the NCAA selection show. The entire panel was in agreement that the RPI system is flawed and broken and needs to be replaced. The Chairman of the NCAA Baseball Committee said that the RPI system is broken and yet the committee has only used RPI metrics and continues to do so.

But the people in position to make a change are the people that benefit from the current system. The committee did make a few exceptions, like Auburn hosting with a lower RPI than Campbell.

The Confederate States may have lost the Civil War but they certainly defeat the Union for hosting 12 of the 16 regional sites. With only Stanford as the lone host west of the Mississippi, there is obviously no room for the 10 western teams. The SEC must have 7 regions to accommodate its 9 teams.

Unfortunately, West Coast teams do not have the ability to avoid playing some low RPI opponents, due to geography (mid-week games) and conference alignments. Conferences tend to rise and fall, together (RPI & financially).

Newman at UCSD won Big West Coach of the Year and they won the regular season championship, however they are still transitioning to D1 so aren't eligible for the big dance, which is good, because Fullerton gets to represent the conference in the tourney. #TusksUp

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2023, 10:56:45 PM »
Not sure if you caught the RPI discussion on the NCAA selection show. The entire panel was in agreement that the RPI system is flawed and broken and needs to be replaced. The Chairman of the NCAA Baseball Committee said that the RPI system is broken and yet the committee has only used RPI metrics and continues to do so.

But the people in position to make a change are the people that benefit from the current system. The committee did make a few exceptions, like Auburn hosting with a lower RPI than Campbell.

The Confederate States may have lost the Civil War but they certainly defeat the Union for hosting 12 of the 16 regional sites. With only Stanford as the lone host west of the Mississippi, there is obviously no room for the 10 western teams. The SEC must have 7 regions to accommodate its 9 teams.

Unfortunately, West Coast teams do not have the ability to avoid playing some low RPI opponents, due to geography (mid-week games) and conference alignments. Conferences tend to rise and fall, together (RPI & financially).

Newman at UCSD won Big West Coach of the Year and they won the regular season championship, however they are still transitioning to D1 so aren't eligible for the big dance, which is good, because Fullerton gets to represent the conference in the tourney. #TusksUp

It isn't really productive to admit the limitations and do nothing about it. I know they are looking into NET type things for baseball. Speaking of Stanford, KP (Kyle Peterson) is a big West Coast baseball advocate, big and small. And he's a Stanford guy.

The SEC is a ridiculously good league. No doubt about it.  But I think it could have had 5 instead of 8 regional hosts. The others could have been a 2. Now 4 of those 5 are top 8 national seed quality (Florida, Vandy, LSU, Arkansas) and, UK was worthy of a regional host.

It's a deep league with deep pockets. There aren't any bad teams or programs in the league. Everyone is competitive. And that adds to the quantity factor as well.

RPI, venues, geography, $, etc a variety of factors go into hosting as well.

There's a lot of pressure for West Coast teams in non-conference and in early season series/games vs other geographies to get results. Those special event games and tourneys especially when they host early season during bad weather elsewhere.

And some of the smaller schools elsewhere have some budgets and expenses that will get your attention. Teams like Dallas Baptist have 7 figure expenses (Eric Newman used to coach there)

Getting a few of the bigger named West Coast teams back on track will help the region get more attention, including the non Power 5's. But they will need a little more investment to continue to compete and keep up. There's a lot of young talent, favorable weather, etc...

 






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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2023, 12:07:13 PM »
Top 1-9 seeds:

All but one will feature 1 vs 2 the 2nd day, meaning favored seeds won all but 1 regional. (Florida will not play a 2 seed in their regional)

Seeds 10-16:

It’s the opposite. Only 1 of those will feature chalk of 1 vs 2 seed in the regional day 2. The exception is Indiana St.





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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2023, 06:09:39 PM »
Is TCU a threat? They tore through the Big XII tournament in record setting fashion.

TCU just lucked into hosting the Super Regionals. As the better seed, Indiana St. was expected to host. However, due to a previously scheduled conflict hosting the State Special Olympics, the Super Regional will be hosted by TCU.

Indiana St. by the way was one of the best mid major (in both on field play as well as a true $550k game operating budget) teams that I saw play this season.

Kentucky had an issue as well with their regional as they were also hosting the state’s biggest music festival along with several high school state championships. They didn’t have any hotels within an hour of Lexington. So opposing teams had to stay in dorms on campus.

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2023, 09:37:45 AM »
Immediately after announcing Southern Mississippi will host Tennessee in Super Regionals, the Hattiesburg Courtyard Marriott price went from $135 a night to $499 a night.

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2023, 12:53:33 PM »
Immediately after announcing Southern Mississippi will host Tennessee in Super Regionals, the Hattiesburg Courtyard Marriott price went from $135 a night to $499 a night.
That is crazy.

Who would spend $135 per night in Hattiesburg, MS?

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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2023, 01:17:37 PM »
That is crazy.

Who would spend $135 per night in Hattiesburg, MS?

Maybe you could get a donation from the Brett Favre fund.

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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2023, 03:20:05 PM »
Maybe you could get a donation from the Brett Favre fund.
;D

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2023, 09:40:19 PM »
TCU just lucked into hosting the Super Regionals. As the better seed, Indiana St. was expected to host. However, due to a previously scheduled conflict hosting the State Special Olympics, the Super Regional will be hosted by TCU.

Indiana St. by the way was one of the best mid major (in both on field play as well as a true $550k game operating budget) teams that I saw play this season.

Kentucky had an issue as well with their regional as they were also hosting the state’s biggest music festival along with several high school state championships. They didn’t have any hotels within an hour of Lexington. So opposing teams had to stay in dorms on campus.

2 games and just under 9,000 for each game at TCU.

SEC esque baseball crowds:

https://twitter.com/tcu_baseball/status/1667707346246840320?s=46&t=TsCCkuE48YmnkWfoKqc_Ng

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2023, 10:52:30 PM »
That Stanford/Texas ending…
Rocket Trigger Warning (wild that saying this would trigger anyone, but it's the world we live in): Black Lives Matter

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2023, 09:33:43 AM »
Twilight in Palo Alto is a thing. 4 private schools among the 8 is I beleive the most since 1971. And it could have been a few more.




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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2023, 12:10:22 PM »
Twilight in Palo Alto is a thing. 4 private schools among the 8 is I beleive the most since 1971. And it could have been a few more.
Speaking of private schools, why is Creighton not a good team? They have a great stadium and BE baseball is decent (2 teams in the tourney). Just curious.

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2023, 12:44:28 PM »
Speaking of private schools, why is Creighton not a good team? They have a great stadium and BE baseball is decent (2 teams in the tourney). Just curious.
The partial scholarship situation in college baseball makes places like Creighton very expensive to go to vs the alternatives for lots of players.

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2023, 02:52:12 PM »
The partial scholarship situation in college baseball makes places like Creighton very expensive to go to vs the alternatives for lots of players.
Makes sense. Thanks.

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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2023, 09:38:25 AM »
Not sure if you caught the RPI discussion on the NCAA selection show. The entire panel was in agreement that the RPI system is flawed and broken and needs to be replaced. The Chairman of the NCAA Baseball Committee said that the RPI system is broken and yet the committee has only used RPI metrics and continues to do so.

But the people in position to make a change are the people that benefit from the current system. The committee did make a few exceptions, like Auburn hosting with a lower RPI than Campbell.

The Confederate States may have lost the Civil War but they certainly defeat the Union for hosting 12 of the 16 regional sites. With only Stanford as the lone host west of the Mississippi, there is obviously no room for the 10 western teams. The SEC must have 7 regions to accommodate its 9 teams.

Unfortunately, West Coast teams do not have the ability to avoid playing some low RPI opponents, due to geography (mid-week games) and conference alignments. Conferences tend to rise and fall, together (RPI & financially).

Newman at UCSD won Big West Coach of the Year and they won the regular season championship, however they are still transitioning to D1 so aren't eligible for the big dance, which is good, because Fullerton gets to represent the conference in the tourney. #TusksUp

Eric Newman turned down an offer to be the HC at Washington State. They did lose their hitting coach Bryson LeBlanc to Mizzou. (he’s an alum and will join the new staff of Kerrick Jackson and Tim Jamieson)

2 time Big Ten Coach of the year Rob Vaughn left Maryland for Alabama. Previously two time CWS HC, Erik Bakich, left Michigan for Clemson last year.

Xavier LHP Justin Loer, who had a great season, is transferring to LSU.

FSU hired DBU pitching coach Micah Posey to the same position. Nice pick up there.

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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2023, 09:29:18 PM »
For the 24th straight year, the number 1 overall seed will not be national champions. (Wake Forest) 1999 U of Miami FL was the last time.

3 of the 4 semifinalists this year were top 6 teams all season.

LSU vs Florida in the final.

It will be the 4th straight champion from the SEC. (No tourney in 2020)

5 out of last 6 CWS Champions for the SEC.

9 out of last 14 CWS Champions for the SEC.

(6 different schools, Vandy (2) South Carolina (2) Florida, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St.) Either Florida or LSU will get the 9th.





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Re: College Baseball
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2023, 07:29:38 PM »
Looking to go to baseball College World Series next year.

If anyone has been, I didn’t know what the best way to get tickets was? Any hotel recommendations for Omaha.
Thanks

 

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