2025 Green Bay Packers Thread

[MuggsyB]

I think Campbell believed if he gave the Packers a chance, his defense could not stop Love.

New tonight, McNeill out, Branch out.

So he bet on his offense and ran behind Sewell.

With 43 secs left?  And no time-outs?  I also think going for it on 4th and 2 from your own 28 wasn't a good decision to put it mildly. 

[tower912]

GB is not soft.

[PointWarrior]

Dan Campbell plays to win.  The Packers play not to lose and are soft as charmin.  It may bite him in the ass but I'll take my chances playing to win instead of playing not to lose with a soft ass team

Not worried about the Packers - their secondary was missing a ton of players by the 2nd half.  The offense can play with anyone.

Dan Campbell will NOT win a superbowl.

[tower912]

With 43 secs left?  And no time-outs?  I also think going for it on 4th and 2 from your own 28 wasn't a good decision to put it mildly. 

As I posted a moment ago, Dan Campbell does not care what we think.

[tower912]

Not worried about the Packers - their secondary was missing a ton of players by the 2nd half.  The offense can play with anyone.

Dan Campbell will NOT win a superbowl.

No other Detroit coach has, either.

[The Sultan]

Refs were awful. Holding below was on Detroits last TD.

https://x.com/tonycmke/status/1864886420705366167?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

https://x.com/wiscogrant/status/1864881197152608387?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg

[MuggsyB]

Dan Campbell plays to win.  The Packers play not to lose and are soft as charmin.  It may bite him in the ass but I'll take my chances playing to win instead of playing not to lose with a soft ass team

Are you not be playing to win by punting on your own 28 up 3 on the 3Q?  Or taking a field goal with a tie game and 43 secs left? 

[GB Warrior]

Is it the coaching or the players? I agree with you. A defense of backups and street FAs was better than a team of high draft picks.

It's the players. They have no pass rush despite the draft capital, their linebacker are eaten alive in space or can't get adequate depth, and they didn't invest in CB despite their #1 playing half the games.

Safety is good though - didn't get beat over the top once! 

[MuggsyB]

As I posted a moment ago, Dan Campbell does not care what we think.

That's fine and I respect that.  But there are still good decisions and bad decisions. 

[forgetful]

I think Campbell believed if he gave the Packers a chance, his defense could not stop Love.

New tonight, McNeill out, Branch out.

So he bet on his offense and ran behind Sewell.

But even then, the Packers weren't going to get a TD. So at best it gets tied back up.

If the logic is, they can't stop them, if they don't get the first down, they lose the game in regulation.

So the only possible way to lose the game in regulation was to go for it.

But the Packers D sucks, so maybe he thought it was a 90+% chance they get the first down.

[HutchwasClutch]

There will be a price for Campbell's always go for it mode.  It cost them in last year's NFC Championship and will bite them again.  A better defense and it would have cost them tonight. 

[tower912]

Are you not be playing to win by punting on your own 28 up 3 on the 3Q?  Or taking a field goal with a tie game and 43 secs left?

Not if you look at the 13 defensive players on IR, the 4 more who did not dress tonight, and McNeill and Branch out.  He did trust his defense.  He trusted his offense. 

[MUfan12]

Campbell has MLF's number and he knows it.

LeFleur is a good coach, but the Packers have seen his ceiling, IMO, and it's not a SB winning coach. He's made two bad ST hires and the jury is very much out on Hafley.

[Uncle Rico]

Not worried about the Packers - their secondary was missing a ton of players by the 2nd half.  The offense can play with anyone.

Dan Campbell will NOT win a superbowl.

Matt LaFleur ain't winning a Super Bowl either with that soft ass defense

[Uncle Rico]

GB is not soft.

Completely disagree.  The o-line got mauled by a defense made up of dentists and crack dealers.  QB's play saved their bacon and even then, 2 of their TD drives started inside the 30.

And that defense had ZERO chance to stop the Lions at the end of the game.  Same with the Bears game.  Difference between Chicago and Detroit was the coaching. 

[Jockey]

Goff will be a near unanimous MVP if they beat the Bills.

[Uncle Rico]

That's fine and I respect that.  But there are still good decisions and bad decisions.

I can see both sides of the argument.  I'd have punted but given the Packers defense, I'd be tempted to always go for it against them

[HutchwasClutch]

Packers should be losing patience fast with Watson and his bonehead plays. Two huge mistakes tonight.  Not getting in the end zone after his OPI, I knew they were going down unless they could get a turnover. 

[cheebs09]

Real-time I thought that was an egregious hold on the last TD. I kept waiting for the flag.

[HutchwasClutch]

Completely disagree.  The o-line got mauled by a defense made up of dentists and crack dealers.  QB's play saved their bacon and even then, 2 of their TD drives started inside the 30.

And that defense had ZERO chance to stop the Lions at the end of the game.  Same with the Bears game.  Difference between Chicago and Detroit was the coaching. 

Their pass rush was non existent tonight.  But holding Gibbs and Montgomery to 3.2 ypc on 29 attempts is hardly a soft defense.

Lack of any semblance of pass rush and down several key players in the secondary is why the defense struggled badly tonight.

[Uncle Rico]

Their pass rush was non existent tonight.  But holding Gibbs and Montgomery to 3.2 ypc on 29 attempts is hardly a soft defense.

Lack of any semblance of pass rush and down several key players in the secondary is why the defense struggled badly tonight.

There was ZERO chance they'd stop the Lions on that drive.  Z-E-R-O.  They're soft

[GB Warrior]

Packers should be losing patience fast with Watson and his bonehead plays. Two huge mistakes tonight.  Not getting in the end zone after his OPI, I knew they were going down unless they could get a turnover.

Refs repeatedly decided that it wasnt OPI all game by how they called the Lions route tree - including on the final drive.

The fumble is inexcusable, but he's still a huge geometry changer. Meanwhile, I have no idea how any gameplan completely ignores Jayden Reed in any form

[Herman Cain]

Tough loss for Packers. I believe the Packers will have a strong chance to win a third game against the Lions if their playoff paths cross

[Zog from Margo]

As I posted a moment ago, Dan Campbell does not care what we think.

I'm sure he doesn't. That doesn't make what he did smart. Twice he made bad decisions on 4th and one. One time he gave GB seven points. Had he not converted the second time with Goff falling, GB has 43 seconds to get the win. I have no problem saying Detroit is better than GB, but Campbell's eagerness to show machismo may end up biting him against a team better than GB. Just like McCarthy was not great at clock management, Campbell's decision making is questionable.

[HutchwasClutch]

Refs repeatedly decided that it wasnt OPI all game by how they called the Lions route tree - including on the final drive.

The fumble is inexcusable, but he's still a huge geometry changer. Meanwhile, I have no idea how any gameplan completely ignores Jayden Reed in any form

Regardless how the refs called it/ not called it on Detroit's side, that was without question OPI on Watson. 

Yeah, he makes some plays and his athletic ability is off the charts, but he's completely unreliable at this point and costs them points.  Could easily argue by himself, he cost them 10 pts tonight.  The dropped TD against SF was even worse than what he screwed up tonight.