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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Herman Cain on May 08, 2022, 04:15:37 PM
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The Packers season has officially started with the completion of Rookie Mini Camp. Packers had a very solid draft that addressed some needs and provided depth.
Packers also have a new special teams coach. Hoping some of these rookies can help improve the one area where the team was weak.
https://www.packers.com/news/5-things-learned-during-packers-rookie-minicamp
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Why are we looking back at 21-22?
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Why are we looking back at 21-22?
Correction noted
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At least one "fan" didn't like the Packers draft -
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2 (https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2)
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At least one "fan" didn't like the Packers draft -
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2 (https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2)
Marilyn is just asking questions.
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Marilyn is just asking questions.
Here is the Q and A from Mark Murphy. Another fan wants to have a Paul McCartney concert…..
https://www.packers.com/news/mt5-a-successful-draft
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Here is the Q and A from Mark Murphy. Another fan wants to have a Paul McCartney concert…..
https://www.packers.com/news/mt5-a-successful-draft
“Also, please stop calling me Mike.” 😂😂😂
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At least one "fan" didn't like the Packers draft -
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2 (https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2)
Probably from Stevens Point
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I'll bet Marilyn blames affirmative action for why she couldn't get into dental school
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At least one "fan" didn't like the Packers draft -
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2 (https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/packers-shareholder-draft-black-players-question-ceo-mark-murphy-01g2ht2w47yk?msclkid=92d9a7ebcf1c11ec8f3ebabae248d6c2)
Anyone surprised they even posted that? I’m surprised a team website would have that on their website.
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That's just fine trolling
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I like the move the Packers made to hire Rich Bisaccia to head up special teams. He has already made some progress out of the gate with a couple free agents .
https://www.packers.com/news/rich-bisaccia-will-look-in-every-nook-and-cranny-to-improve-packers-special-team
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Sounds more like Wausau or Rapids...
Probably from Stevens Point
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I like the move the Packers made to hire Rich Bisaccia to head up special teams. He has already made some progress out of the gate with a couple free agents .
https://www.packers.com/news/rich-bisaccia-will-look-in-every-nook-and-cranny-to-improve-packers-special-team
As written on “packers.com”
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Here are some first day Rookie Camp impressions of the Packers as written on Sports Illustrated.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/at-packers-rookie-camp-zach-tom-starts-at-center-tariq-carpenter-at-safety#gid=ci02a091a150002795&pid=seventh-round-wr-samori-toure
Sounds like the 4th and 7th round pick at wide receiver may hold some promise.
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The Dongslinger will be sharing his opinions on football this fall on 94.5 ESPN Milwaukee!
In the meantime, looks like he’ll be in court some more
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/09/mississippi-sues-brett-favre-three-former-wrestlers-welfare-misspending
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More on Rookies, some comments on Love and detail on Special Teams
https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/05/10/packers-get-first-look-rookie-class-and-look-ahead-london-game/9677880002/
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The Dongslinger will be sharing his opinions on football this fall on 94.5 ESPN Milwaukee!
In the meantime, looks like he’ll be in court some more
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/05/09/mississippi-sues-brett-favre-three-former-wrestlers-welfare-misspending
With Chmura?
Maybe call it ‘Pedo and the Thief’.
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With Chmura?
Maybe call it ‘Pedo and the Thief’.
Packers legends
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Packers legends
I have literally never heard a dumber sports talk show host than Chmura.
He knows zero about any sport other than football even though he knows next to nothing about the modern game. He is certainly more well versed in the sex habits of teenage girls than he is about football.
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I have literally never heard a dumber sports talk show host than Chmura.
I don’t know. That’s a pretty high bar in Milwaukee sports radio.
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Ian Rapoport on Jordan Love trade value
https://mobile.twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1524083908131930113?s=20&t=0IZfD5B1KUaFDQgaC32-Vg
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I don’t know. That’s a pretty high bar in Milwaukee sports radio.
It’s really bad. I am a fan of Wisconsin sports teams, but whenever i am in the car, I listen to Chicago stations.
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It’s really bad. I am a fan of Wisconsin sports teams, but whenever i am in the car, I listen to Chicago stations.
Winkler is the only one that gets it. The rest think they are passing along some valuable service. Winkler admits the con job at least
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94.5 is just so obnoxiously Badger-centric, minus Homer that I maybe turn on 97.3 if anything, but Kuhn specifically is pretty terrible. Not Chmura bad, cause he makes an effort to talk about/watch other sports, but good lord is he clueless. I don't think he's a moron and he seems like a fairly likeable guy, but unless they are specifically talking about NFL and the Packers and the water he carries for the organization, he sounds like your neighbor who watched a quarter of the Bucks game last night, or highlights of a league on SportsCenter and has opinions.
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Winkler is the only one that gets it. The rest think they are passing along some valuable service. Winkler admits the con job at least
Ah, sew ur Notebook Mike, aina?
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Ah, sew ur Notebook Mike, aina?
I can honestly say I’ve never called a sports talk radio station. I don’t even listen to Winkler but have heard enough to know he doesn’t take any of it as serious as the other mouth breathers in this state
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I think Wilde and Tauscher are "fine" but in general I can find better things to listen to
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It’s really bad. I am a fan of Wisconsin sports teams, but whenever i am in the car, I listen to Chicago stations.
Chicago stations are not better.
Thing about sports talk radio, is they have to walk a fine line between being controversial (so you keep listening) and being reasonable.
Stephen A Smith has been the absolute best at this for over two decades. He doesn't believe half his takes, but he doesn't have to. He only has to have an argument that keeps you talking about him. And watching.
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Chicago stations are not better.
Thing about sports talk radio, is they have to walk a fine line between being controversial (so you keep listening) and being reasonable.
Stephen A Smith has been the absolute best at this for over two decades. He doesn't believe half his takes, but he doesn't have to. He only has to have an argument that keeps you talking about him. And watching.
Boers and Bernstein were the good standard. Bernstein’s political rants became too much but they were great
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Another good article on Rich Bisaccia. Packers new special teams coordinator
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2022/5/11/23067015/cheese-curds-rich-bisaccia-starts-working-his-magic
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Another good article on Rich Bisaccia. Packers new special teams coordinator
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2022/5/11/23067015/cheese-curds-rich-bisaccia-starts-working-his-magic
It was a terrible article
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Packers benefit from the weak NFC North in their schedule ever year . Games against Division winner games will be tough as usual .
Hoping the Packers can sign one of the free agent wide receivers still on market to fortify their roster
Ian Rapoport says Julio Jones , OBJ and Jarvis Landry are possibilities because their price came down
https://mobile.twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1524080256067547136
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Packers benefit from the weak NFC North in their schedule ever year . Games against Division winner games will be tough as usual .
Hoping the Packers can sign one of the free agent wide receivers still on market to fortify their roster
Ian Rapoport says Julio Jones , OBJ and Jarvis Landry are possibilities because their price came down
https://mobile.twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1524080256067547136
Have to figure those guys want to play with a QB focused on winning, not stats
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Have to figure those guys want to play with a QB focused on winning, not stats
Trent Dilfer is retired
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Have to figure those guys want to play with a QB focused on winning, not stats
Colin Kapernick hasn't played in years
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Some commentary from The Bucs fan site on this seasons Bucs Oackers game in Tampa .
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/05/yes-aaron-rodgers-is-a-hall-of-fame-qb-also-yes-he-is-terrible-playing-in-florida/
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Jaire gets his bag, and deservedly so.
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Jaire gets his bag, and deservedly so.
4 years $84 million
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-sign-jaire-alexander-to-four-year-84m-extension-making-him-nfls-highest-paid-defensive-back/
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Good article on The Packers 4th and 7th round draft picks at Wide Receiver
https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/52209/wrs-romeo-doubs-and-samori-toure-from-pre-draft-workouts-to-packers-teammates
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Packers fifth in NBC Sports pre season power rankings . Free agency not yet done so this could change .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/23/2022-nfl-power-rankings-fmia-peter-king/?cid=nbcsports
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Packers fifth in NBC Sports pre season power rankings . Free agency not yet done so this could change .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/05/23/2022-nfl-power-rankings-fmia-peter-king/?cid=nbcsports
5th? In the NFC North, I’d guess
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5th? In the NFC North, I’d guess
They have to learn how to beat the Bears if they wanna move up in that Division.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/highlights-from-day-2-of-packers-otas
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Aaron Rodgers teamed with Tom Brady to win made for TV golf match against Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-defeat-patrick-mahomes-josh-allen-match-golf-event
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Allen Lazard holding out, wants a long term contract. Not at Mandatory Mini Camp. Technically because he has not signed yet he is not required to show up. More reps for the younger guys.
https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-lafleur-not-worried-allen-lazard-skipping-packers-minicamp-new-deal
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Allen Lazard holding out, wants a long term contract. Not at Mandatory Mini Camp. Technically because he has not signed yet he is not required to show up. More reps for the younger guys.
https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-lafleur-not-worried-allen-lazard-skipping-packers-minicamp-new-deal
Well, if there was ever a time he’d have some leverage, it’s now.
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Well, if there was ever a time he’d have some leverage, it’s now.
No, not really. 40 receptions can be replaced fairly easily. Cobb, Watkins, Watson could easily be the starting 3 if Lazard wants to be greedy.
Having said that, he should be/been working on a deal for the last year. Not sure why this is even called a hold out though. Since he wasn't required to report yet.
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Allen Lazard holding out, wants a long term contract. Not at Mandatory Mini Camp. Technically because he has not signed yet he is not required to show up. More reps for the younger guys.
https://www.nfl.com/news/matt-lafleur-not-worried-allen-lazard-skipping-packers-minicamp-new-deal
How does a guy with no contract hold out?
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No, not really. 40 receptions can be replaced fairly easily. Cobb, Watkins, Watson could easily be the starting 3 if Lazard wants to be greedy.
Having said that, he should be/been working on a deal for the last year. Not sure why this is even called a hold out though. Since he wasn't required to report yet.
I guess I’m not banking on Cobb and Watkins playing together more than 8 games. Plus, he might not have a ton of leverage, but this is probably his best position to negotiate.
I still think the Packers grab someone like Julio. He has his own injury problems, but it feels like the Packers are still thin on talent there. I’m guessing Jones and the TEs are more involved in the passing game.
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I guess I’m not banking on Cobb and Watkins playing together more than 8 games. Plus, he might not have a ton of leverage, but this is probably his best position to negotiate.
I still think the Packers grab someone like Julio. He has his own injury problems, but it feels like the Packers are still thin on talent there. I’m guessing Jones and the TEs are more involved in the passing game.
I think the RBs and TEs will be the focus... but this assumes Bobby T is healthy. Watson is there to take the top off the coverage. I wonder if Amari Rodgers is already considered a bust at this point. No one talks about him, and he was rarely used last year... and when he was, he was very ineffective.
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I think the RBs and TEs will be the focus... but this assumes Bobby T is healthy. Watson is there to take the top off the coverage. I wonder if Amari Rodgers is already considered a bust at this point. No one talks about him, and he was rarely used last year... and when he was, he was very ineffective.
Tea leaves point to bust
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How does a guy with no contract hold out?
I mean, he can save mileage on his body till training camp, but there's a real risk of overplaying his hand. I wouldn't say the Packers have "good" options, but there are options.
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I mean, he can save mileage on his body till training camp, but there's a real risk of overplaying his hand. I wouldn't say the Packers have "good" options, but there are options.
Sorry. I didn’t mean it that way. I was questioning a poster who said Lazard was holding out. You can’t hold out if you are not under contract.
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Davante Adams gives more detail on his decision to join Raiders
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/davante-adams-says-38-year-old-aaron-rodgers-looming-retirement-is-partly-the-reason-he-left-green-bay/
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Davante Adams gives more detail on his decision to join Raiders
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/davante-adams-says-38-year-old-aaron-rodgers-looming-retirement-is-partly-the-reason-he-left-green-bay/
He also said he left because of the fans
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He also said he left because of the fans
Always seemed like more of an AC guy anyway.
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AR dating a witch now.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-new-girlfriend-blu-of-earth-witch-allegation
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AR dating a witch now.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-new-girlfriend-blu-of-earth-witch-allegation
Blu of Earth instagram
https://www.instagram.com/bluofearth/?hl=en
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AR dating a witch now.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-new-girlfriend-blu-of-earth-witch-allegation
Bedder dan deightin' a bitch, aina?
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Interesting article on Sammy Watkins. He is intellectually honest about where he is at in his career
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/06/08/sammy-watkins-my-career-hasnt-been-what-i-projected-and-my-back-is-against-the-wall/
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I like this team work
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-cb-jaire-alexander-helping-prepare-rookie-wr-christian-watson-iron-sharp
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The Packers have a history of saying goodbye to high quality wide receivers:
Javon Walker went to Denver
Greg Jennings went to Minnesota
and now, Davante Adams goes to Oakland, Los Angeles, Oakland, Las Vegas.
They didn't miss a beat then and I don't think they will now. The Packers did much better than Walker or Jennings did in their next stops.
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The Packers have a history of saying goodbye to high quality wide receivers:
Javon Walker went to Denver
Greg Jennings went to Minnesota
and now, Davante Adams goes to Oakland, Los Angeles, Oakland, Las Vegas.
They didn't miss a beat then and I don't think they will now. The Packers did much better than Walker or Jennings did in their next stops.
Those days are over. Futility is in the near future for the Packers until they upgrade the QB position
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The Packers have a history of saying goodbye to high quality wide receivers:
Javon Walker went to Denver
Greg Jennings went to Minnesota
and now, Davante Adams goes to Oakland, Los Angeles, Oakland, Las Vegas.
They didn't miss a beat then and I don't think they will now. The Packers did much better than Walker or Jennings did in their next stops.
One of these things is not like the other.
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AR dating a witch now.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-new-girlfriend-blu-of-earth-witch-allegation
AR is a great QB, but he's unique. 100% California boy.
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Tonyan making good progress in rehab and recovery
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/24/packers-te-robert-tonyan-acl-still-on-track-for-season-opener/
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https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/06/23/green-bay-packers-executive-dick-blasczyk-dies-he-kept-close-watch-team-spending/7710664001/
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A great Packer memory
https://mobile.twitter.com/HardRockSB/status/1545809019696287744?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34239601/ex-governor-ordered-11m-welfare-payment-brett-favre-defendant-alleges
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34239601/ex-governor-ordered-11m-welfare-payment-brett-favre-defendant-alleges
Between the Dongslinger and Fraudgers, a lonely Packers nation turns its eyes towards you, Bart Starr
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Between the Dongslinger and Fraudgers, a lonely Packers nation turns its eyes towards you, Bart Starr
Uh… did you forget about Lynn Dickey?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/23/packers-lt-david-bakhtiari-not-on-pup-list-for-now/
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Kind of interesting that Christian Watson and Mason Crosby are on the PUP list. Wonder how long they are anticipated to be recovering from whatever ails them?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34285960/source-green-bay-packers-star-lt-david-bakhtiari-pup-list-ahead-first-training-camp
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Kind of interesting that Christian Watson and Mason Crosby are on the PUP list. Wonder how long they are anticipated to be recovering from whatever ails them?
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34285960/source-green-bay-packers-star-lt-david-bakhtiari-pup-list-ahead-first-training-camp
Watson had his knee scoped a couple of weeks back, he should be fine. Minor stuff.
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Packers had a record year in terms of revenue and profits in 2021. $579 million in revenue and income from operations of $77.7 million, with 61.6 million in Net income
Reserves of $440 Million
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/07/22/green-bay-packers-revenue-profit-record-2022/10131171002/
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Packers had a record year in terms of revenue and profits in 2021. $579 million in revenue and income from operations of $77.7 million, with 61.6 million in Net income
Reserves of $440 Million
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/07/22/green-bay-packers-revenue-profit-record-2022/10131171002/
And how many dopes bought stock last year? 😂
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And how many dopes bought stock last year? 😂
Sounds like it's going to pay off.
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Sounds like it's going to pay off.
Not for getting players
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Not for getting players
Sure , it has to help, the players will love the underground parking etc.
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Bucs sign Julio Jones . Jones has been injured. If healthy , can Brady coax one more good year out of Jones.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/buccaneers-sign-julio-jones-to-one-year-deal-former-all-pro-joins-forces-with-tom-brady/
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Oops Sammi Watkins
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/07/26/packers-place-sammy-watkins-on-non-football-injury-list/
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News from Day 1 of Pads
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2022/8/1/23287344/green-bay-packers-practice-news-and-notes-8-1-the-pads-come-on-and-the-defense-shines-rashan-gary
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34302127/green-bay-packers-all-pro-david-bakhtiari-had-another-knee-procedure-no-table-return
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34302127/green-bay-packers-all-pro-david-bakhtiari-had-another-knee-procedure-no-table-return
He wants out bad. Wants a ring
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Aaron Rodgers on how his mental health experiments help the team
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/08/03/aaron-rodgers-opens-up-about-psychedelic-use-ayahuasca-mental-health-podcast
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Of course he's caught up in Aubrey Marcus' cult. This is just *chef's kiss*
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Rodgers is bullish on Romeo Doubs Packers 4th round wide receiver pick. Says he does very well on contested passes .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/03/aaron-rodgers-rookie-wr-romeo-doubs-doing-rare-things-to-start-camp/
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Rodgers is bullish on Romeo Doubs Packers 4th round wide receiver pick. Says he does very well on contested passes .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/03/aaron-rodgers-rookie-wr-romeo-doubs-doing-rare-things-to-start-camp/
He’ll probably run this guy out of GB, too
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He’ll probably run this guy out of GB, too
Kuhn, after making a terribly incorrect reference to Jekyll and Hyde when talking about Rodgers, then said "but these are the things that make him one of the most beloved personalities in all of the NFL". Which I found hilarious. I know Kuhn is the designated water carrier after McAfee, but good lord that's tone deaf.
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https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/08/04/randall-cobb-pokes-fun-romeo-dobbs-inheriting-jordy-nelsons-87/10234525002/
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https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/08/04/randall-cobb-pokes-fun-romeo-dobbs-inheriting-jordy-nelsons-87/10234525002/
They need to cut Cobb. He’s garbage
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Excellent interview with Aaron Rodgers
Lots of commentary on individual players .
https://www.packers.com/video/aaron-rodgers-describes-de-vondre-campbell-s-rise-as-a-leader
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They need to cut Cobb. He’s garbage
He's der ta cary #12's bag, aina?
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He's der ta cary #12's bag, aina?
That’s the problem. 12’s judgement of players is terrible
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That podcast with Aubrey Marcus was wild.
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Aaron and Danica enjoyed the psychedelic tea together
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/aaron-rodgers-dating-danica-patrick-ayahuasca-meditation-161501507.html
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Seems like Aaron talking about Danica a lot these days. She broke up with her boyfriend and Aaron broke his engagement, so who knows maybe they get back together
https://nypost.com/2022/08/04/aaron-rodgers-recalls-psychedelic-journey-to-peru-with-danica-patrick/
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Seems like Aaron talking about Danica a lot these days. She broke up with her boyfriend and Aaron broke his engagement, so who knows maybe they get back together
https://nypost.com/2022/08/04/aaron-rodgers-recalls-psychedelic-journey-to-peru-with-danica-patrick/
He’s dating a witch
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He’s dating a witch
Good point , he should probably stick with The Witch ,at least until he retires. In the Packers best interest.
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Will be interesting to see how the rookie receivers do tonight in the exhibition versus The 49ers
https://www.nfl.com/news/aaron-rodgers-on-readying-new-crop-of-packers-wrs-we-re-going-to-be-hard-on-them
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He’s dating a witch
Witches are hot
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More importantly we'll see if Love's got anything or if his ass needs to get peddled for a couple kickin' tees, aina?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
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Jordan Love blows.
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Jordan Love blows.
If he didn’t the Packers would’ve traded Rodgers on multiple different occasions now.
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Packers are trash
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More importantly we'll see if Love's got anything or if his ass needs to get peddled for a couple kickin' tees, aina?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
Loves trade value going down tonight
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Loves trade value going down tonight
He had none.
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Loves trade value going down tonight
Disagree. A couple of bad throws, but plenty of good ones.
He hasn't been great, but he has been serviceable.
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https://www.packers.com/news/game-notes-amari-rodgers-sparks-packers-special-teams
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Disagree. A couple of bad throws, but plenty of good ones.
He hasn't been great, but he has been serviceable.
Serviceable in a preseason game against backups and guys who will be on practice squads or on the street in three weeks. Against the most vanilla of defensive schemes.
He missed about 3 throws to guys in the backfield. He badly overthrew a pass over the middle that Winfree bailed him out on. He was wildly inaccurate, and mostly a train wreck last night.
This is his third year and this is all he’s showing. He’s a bust.
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Packers know Love is crap too. They just aren’t able to admit yet because of the investment in him they’re desperately hoping to salvage.
As others said, Rodgers would be long gone if he could play.
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Peddle his ass, aina?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
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Packers won’t win 5 games.
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Packers will peddle Love when another team's qb gets hurt and they're desperate to save the season. Etling will be Pack's back-up. Essentially no difference between Love and Etling 'cuz if Rodgers goes down, GB is bf'ed either way, hey?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
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Packers will peddle Love when another team's qb gets hurt and they're desperate to save the season. Etling will be Pack's back-up. Essentially no difference between Love and Etling 'cuz if Rodgers goes down, GB is bf'ed either way, hey?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
Packers are toast either way. Rodgers is a born loser
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Packers will peddle Love when another team's qb gets hurt and they're desperate to save the season. Etling will be Pack's back-up. Essentially no difference between Love and Etling 'cuz if Rodgers goes down, GB is bf'ed either way, hey?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
Here is a list of all starters and backups in the NFL. Hopefully one of these teams falls in love with Love
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/every-nfl-teams-starting-and-backup-quarterback-2022
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Packers will peddle Love when another team's qb gets hurt and they're desperate to save the season.
Why would a team "desperate to save the season" want an unproven QB who has looked bad in his only opportunities to play?
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'Cuz possibly no one else would be available and he'd come cheap, hey?
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'Cuz possibly no one else would be available and he'd come cheap, hey?
I can see why a team desperate to put a warm body at QB might be interested. I can't see why any team "desperate to save the season" would be.
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Disagree. A couple of bad throws, but plenty of good ones.
He hasn't been great, but he has been serviceable.
Mitch Trubisky was ‘serviceable’. He might get the Packers a 7th rounder in a deal.
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I can see why a team desperate to put a warm body at QB might be interested. I can't see why any team "desperate to save the season" would be.
Our trash is worth something.
Packers need to peddle Rodgers now to a desperate team but they have to keep the “shareholders” happy with false hope
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Mitch Trubisky was ‘serviceable’. He might get the Packers a 7th rounder in a deal.
The Bills traded a 7th for Case Keenum, who is old, but was an NFL starter for multiple games each of the last few years.
Baker went for a 5th. Teddy Bridgewater and Gardner Minshew both went for 6th rounders last year.
The only way the Packers get a draft pick back for Love, at this point IMO, is if they toss in a pick like the Bengals did with Ryan Finley a few years ago. I could see Love and a 7th for a 6th or something like that.
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My guess is trading him now would bring back a pick conditional on performance and playing time. Starting probably 6th round and improving from there if he hits certain thresholds.
Just a terrible miss by Gutekunst. And they moved up to get him.
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The Bills traded a 7th for Case Keenum, who is old, but was an NFL starter for multiple games each of the last few years.
Baker went for a 5th. Teddy Bridgewater and Gardner Minshew both went for 6th rounders last year.
The only way the Packers get a draft pick back for Love, at this point IMO, is if they toss in a pick like the Bengals did with Ryan Finley a few years ago. I could see Love and a 7th for a 6th or something like that.
Reasonable.
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It would be worth it to trade Love to get him off the payroll.
Use the freed up cap space to pick up a quality veteran at positions of need when they go on sale later in the year .
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It would be worth it to trade Love to get him off the payroll.
Use the freed up cap space to pick up a quality veteran at positions of need when they go on sale later in the year .
Going with a 52 man roster?
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Interesting grades for Packers after first exhibition
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/13/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-preseason-opener-vs-49ers/
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Rodgers working hard on communications with teammates .
https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/52361/help-wanted-and-welcomed-aaron-rodgers-doing-the-little-things-to-help-green-bay-packers-win-the-big-one
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Rodgers working hard on communications with teammates .
https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/52361/help-wanted-and-welcomed-aaron-rodgers-doing-the-little-things-to-help-green-bay-packers-win-the-big-one
He should work hard on being a better son
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He should work hard on being a better son
And warlock.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34399529/in-next-step-process-green-bay-packers-activate-three-players-pup-list-including-tight-end-robert-tonyan
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Rodgers focusing on fundamentals
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34409278/green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-frustrated-drops-inconsistency-young-receivers
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The Packers' new toy (https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1559208811742765057?s=20&t=eO4-zJFw_jtQ34WCyWbR1w) is a pretty cool piece of tech.
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Packers exhibition tonight against Saints.
Will be interesting to see how the Packers young receivers respond to Aaron Rodgers rant earlier this week.
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Packers up 13-10 at half . Listening to the game on Packer Radio Network
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Romeo Doubs with a nice TD Catch
https://mobile.twitter.com/packers/status/1560791903653724160
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Romeo Doubs with a nice TD Catch
https://mobile.twitter.com/packers/status/1560791903653724160
Inspired by Rodgers, no doubt. No wonder he’s led that team to, like, 6 Super Bowls now. Or is it 7?
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Inspired by Rodgers, no doubt. No wonder he’s led that team to, like, 6 Super Bowls now. Or is it 7?
I can’t remember either. However many it is, I think it’s equal to the total Super Bowls the Panthers and Bears have combined to win in the history of those franchises.
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I can’t remember either. However many it is, I think it’s equal to the total Super Bowls the Panthers and Bears have combined to win in the history of those franchises.
Well, you sure zinged me there!
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Watched replay, was hoping Love could have shown more to boost his trade value. That is of course if Pack is willing to throw in the towel on Love, whichI think they are not .
Etling 51 yard TD run was impressive. Packers will be ok with him as a back up after the eventual theoretical Love trade .
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Watched replay, was hoping Love could have shown more to boost his trade value. That is of course if Pack is willing to throw in the towel on Love, whichI think they are not .
Etling 51 yard TD run was impressive. Packers will be ok with him as a back up after the eventual theoretical Love trade .
They aren’t trading him.
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Peddle his ass, aina?
#freerocket2022v2
#freeziggy2022
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/21/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-preseason-win-over-saints/
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Good news Bakhtiari is back practicing .
https://www.packers.com/news/all-pro-left-tackle-david-bakhtiari-returns-to-practice-for-packers-2022
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Good news Bakhtiari is back practicing .
https://www.packers.com/news/all-pro-left-tackle-david-bakhtiari-returns-to-practice-for-packers-2022
My source told me he told the Packers to take him off the PUP or cut him so he could sign with Tampa Bay 👀👀
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My source told me he told the Packers to take him off the PUP or cut him so he could sign with Tampa Bay 👀👀
He wants to play with The Masked Singer. A real champion.
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Rookie Zach Thom playing well. Could possibly be a starter.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/21/packers-rookie-ol-zach-tom-is-playing-like-a-starter-through-two-preseason-games/?itm_source=parsely-api
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Christian Watson, back practicing. Making some progress.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/23/splash-play-impressive-adjustment-and-mental-improvements-highlight-christian-watsons-return/
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Good opportunity for Love to be showcased for trade tonight. Hopefully, there will be some takers.
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Peddle his ass. A couple kickin' tees are better than nothin', hey?
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Peddle his ass. A couple kickin' tees are better than nothin', hey?
Additional benefits are the Packers get his salary off their payroll.
Etling can do the same job for less coin.
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If #12 goes down, da Pack is bf'd regardless who is the qb, aina?
#freeziggy2022v2toinfinity
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If #12 goes down, da Pack is bf'd regardless who is the qb, aina?
#freeziggy2022v2toinfinity
I agree with this analysis
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/25/aaron-rodgers-loved-this-catch-from-packers-rookie-wr-romeo-doubs/
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https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/08/27/matt-lafleur-criticizes-packers-special-team-performance/7919686001/
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https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/dick-butkus-packers-passing-game-like-playing-fetch
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Ray Nitschke was better anyway.
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https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/08/29/green-bay-packers-legend-dave-robinson-auctions-super-bowl-i-ii-rings/7928526001/
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https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/08/29/green-bay-packers-legend-dave-robinson-auctions-super-bowl-i-ii-rings/7928526001/
Met Dave once at the Sports Show. Very nice guy.
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Danny Etling cut means Jordan Love most likely sticking around.
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Did people think that Love wasn't going to be here? There is no way they were throwing in the towel yet.
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Vikes dumping Mond. Watch & learn, scrubs!
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Did people think that Love wasn't going to be here? There is no way they were throwing in the towel yet.
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The GM for the Packers wisely ignores the owner(s)
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Did people think that Love wasn't going to be here? There is no way they were throwing in the towel yet.
Yeah I don’t get it. Nobody was ever going to give anything for Jordan Love.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/30/green-bay-packers-initial-53-man-roster-2022-season-position/
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Excellent interview with Aaron Rodgers. Talks about todays practice and then goes into a lot of details on the roster and roster construction . Very candid .
https://www.packers.com/video/aaron-rodgers-it-was-the-best-practice-of-camp
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Feeling very good about the potential of this years Packer Squad. Defense is going to be very strong. Offense will miss #17 for sure. However , offense will be more diversified which may make the team less predictable . Special teams need work, Seems like the emphasis is on having players with special team experience , rather than throwing young guys in there .
Finally, The NFC North still sucks , so winning the division is highly likely . 12 seems highly engaged and focused after the debacle of the 49ers playoff game .
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Packers pick up a quality special teams player off the waiver wire
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/31/packers-gm-new-safety-rudy-ford-is-one-of-the-better-gunners-in-nfl/
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Packers pick up a quality special teams player off the waiver wire
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/31/packers-gm-new-safety-rudy-ford-is-one-of-the-better-gunners-in-nfl/
Too bad he’s on a team that doesn’t value special teams
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Too bad he’s on a team that doesn’t value special teams
Packers signed a new special teams Head Coach and are making an effort to guys dedicated to special teams.
Hopefully it works out for the Packers.
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Packers signed a new special teams Head Coach and are making an effort to guys dedicated to special teams.
Hopefully it works out for the Packers.
Looks promising so far
They should fix the offense that only scored 10 at home against the 49ers at Lambeau last January
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Looks promising so far
They should fix the offense that only scored 10 at home against the 49ers at Lambeau last January
I think the offense will be more diversified. Offensive Line should be better too.
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I think the offense will be more diversified. Offensive Line should be better too.
We’ll have to see what Coach Rodgers has drawn up
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Looks promising so far
They should fix the offense that only scored 10 at home against the 49ers at Lambeau last January
Rodgers chakras were all blocked up. The time in the desert with the witch has taken care of all that. You'll see.
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NFC North is going to be better than people think.
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NFC North is going to be better than people think.
The Packers divisional games should all be hard fought battles .
The question is can the NFC North doing anything outside the division
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NFC North is going to be better than people think.
Go Lions Go
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Dongslinger dirtbag
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1565671402115571712?s=21&t=ypfovLxnQ7I_UzstHDbyTA
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Dongslinger dirtbag
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1565671402115571712?s=21&t=ypfovLxnQ7I_UzstHDbyTA
Favre is a welfare case - at least morally and intellectually.
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Dongslinger dirtbag
https://twitter.com/nbcnews/status/1565671402115571712?s=21&t=ypfovLxnQ7I_UzstHDbyTA
Whoooooops.
Da 🐻 🐻❄ 🐻 🐻❄ 🐻 🐻❄
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https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/52438/green-bay-packers-defense-looks-good-on-paper-but-on-the-field-it-looks-even-better
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Sammy Watkins playing well in practice per #12
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/02/packers-wr-sammy-watkins-making-a-bunch-of-plays-to-finish-out-training-camp/
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Sammy Watkins playing well in practice per #12
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/02/packers-wr-sammy-watkins-making-a-bunch-of-plays-to-finish-out-training-camp/
He’ll probably get cut now
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Packers complete roster
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-69-man-roster-53-man-roster-16-player-practice-squad/
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Packers had drawings made to put a dome on Lambeau. The traditionalists would rather freeze
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=agzmR4pc00A
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This is an excellent article on AJ Dillon and his Jewish Heritage
https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/6/23340097/aj-dillon-jewish-green-bay-packers
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This is an excellent article on AJ Dillon and his Jewish Heritage
https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/6/23340097/aj-dillon-jewish-green-bay-packers
AJ Dillon supports a quad-state solution
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Packers had drawings made to put a dome on Lambeau. The traditionalists would rather freeze
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=agzmR4pc00A
Some of the comments on that video are just the meatballiest...
Anyway, I completely get why they don't do this, but unlike a generation ago, I think the fanbase would do a collective shrug and be fine. As long as they are winning of course. Tickets for December and January games are insanely easy to find because it can be cold and miserable at Lambeau.
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Some of the comments on that video are just the meatballiest...
Anyway, I completely get why they don't do this, but unlike a generation ago, I think the fanbase would do a collective shrug and be fine. As long as they are winning of course. Tickets for December and January games are insanely easy to find because it can be cold and miserable at Lambeau.
One of my old bosses has the cover sheet of the feasibility study framed. Lambeau needs a roof, all football should be indoors.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/07/packers-list-11-players-on-first-injury-report-of-2022-season/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/08/no-changes-to-packers-week-1-injury-report-on-thursday/
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Having Jaire back is going to make a big difference for The Packers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/09/packers-cb-jaire-alexander-hungry-to-get-back-on-the-field-in-week-1/
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Any info on what their pre-game meal will be?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/09/packers-ol-david-bakhtiari-and-elgton-jenkins-both-questionable-for-week-1-matt-lafleur-updates-on-others/
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No Bakhtiari and Jenkins today
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/11/packers-expected-to-be-without-david-bakhtiari-and-elgton-jenkins-vs-vikings/
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No Bakhtiari and Jenkins today
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/11/packers-expected-to-be-without-david-bakhtiari-and-elgton-jenkins-vs-vikings/
Bakh won’t play until they trade him. He wants out but Rodgers won’t let Gutekunst trade him
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Peddle his ass, hey?
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Peddle his ass, hey?
Give the man a chance to win a Super Bowl
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Yeah, peddle his ass ta da Bills for Josh Allen, hey?
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Yeah, peddle his ass ta da Bills for Josh Allen, hey?
Would be an upgrade at QB
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Watson filling in MVS’ role perfectly.
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Put in Love
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1st possession - both rookie WRs make mistakes.
AR gonna have to be patient.
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Z
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Have the packers ever punched the ball in on 4th and Goal from the 1?
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Have the packers ever punched the ball in on 4th and Goal from the 1?
Never, it’s an NFL anomaly.
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Have the packers ever punched the ball in on 4th and Goal from the 1?
Z
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Joe Barry Carroll is back.
Let Jefferson get his - we’ll stop everybody else.
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Might need to rethink the preseason strategy.
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Aaron looks bewitched
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It’s not Rodgers fault. Ask him
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Have the packers ever punched the ball in on 4th and Goal from the 1?
Jerry Kramer and Bart Starr did.
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It’s not Rodgers fault. Ask him
LOL ;D
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Rodgers is done. Peddle his azz
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R-E-L-A-X, The Sequel?
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R-E-L-A-X, The Sequel?
Rodgers is done. Stick a fork in him. Trade him for a ham sandwich
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Rodgers is done. Stick a fork in him. Trade him for a ham sandwich
It’s almost like someone put a spell on him.
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It’s almost like someone put a spell on him.
At least he has Randall Cobb back
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#9 musta had a Butterfingers candy bar fore breakfast. Peddle his ass, hey?
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#9 musta had a Butterfingers candy bar fore breakfast. Peddle his ass, hey?
Davante Adams had a nice game
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Not the kind of start to the season we wanted.
Hopefully the team can recover for The Bears game
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The whole “Packers will be better off with more balance now that Rodgers can’t get tunnel vision on Davante” narrative lasted like 5 minutes into the season. So that was fun.
Just bring in OBJ and Antonio Brown please.
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Not the kind of start to the season we wanted.
Hopefully the team can recover for The Bears game
I think the Bears are heading directly into a buzzsaw. That game could be ugly for the Monsters of the Midway.
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The whole “Packers will be better off with more balance now that Rodgers can’t get tunnel vision on Davante” narrative lasted like 5 minutes into the season. So that was fun.
Just bring in OBJ and Antonio Brown please.
Antonio Brown and Rodgers? Insert Nicholson nodding gif
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Skol! I was (pleasantly) surprised at how bad Green Bey looked.
Don’t worry guys… we’ll rep the North well in the playoffs!!
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Skol! I was (pleasantly) surprised at how bad Green Bey looked.
Don’t worry guys… we’ll rep the North well in the playoffs!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0XGMCeU-I
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/stars-studs-and-duds-from-packers-23-7-loss-to-vikings-in-week-1/
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A couple of douchenozzles hard at work in Mississippi ...
https://mississippitoday.org/2022/09/13/phil-bryant-brett-favre-welfare/
Former Gov. Phil Bryant helped Brett Favre secure welfare funding for USM volleyball stadium, texts reveal
Never-before-seen text messages show former Gov. Phil Bryant tried to shepherd a proposal to use welfare funds on the construction of a new volleyball stadium for retired NFL player Brett Favre – a project prosecutors have called a scheme to defraud the government. Bryant has previously denied any involvement with the project, which has emerged as the centerpiece of a massive criminal scandal in which prominent officials misspent or stole millions in welfare funds intended for the nation’s poorest residents.
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So Favre's claims that he didn't know where the money came from and that he never talked to the governor about it were just out-and-out lies.
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So Favre's claims that he didn't know where the money came from and that he never talked to the governor about it were just out-and-out lies.
Yea there was a lot of plausible deniability about source of funds knowledge for awhile, but that vanished rather quickly
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The author that wrote Farve's book calling him a bad man and not to buy the book: https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/09/13/brett-favre-biographer-blasts-ex-packers-quarterback/10372282002/
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The author that wrote Farve's book calling him a bad man and not to buy the book: https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/09/13/brett-favre-biographer-blasts-ex-packers-quarterback/10372282002/
Is it too cynical to point out that the author's book came out in 2016 and this is merely an opportunity he is taking to remind everyone that it exists, and thus bump sales?
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Thank god Packers fans can look up to Bart Starr
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Is it too cynical to point out that the author's book came out in 2016 and this is merely an opportunity he is taking to remind everyone that it exists, and thus bump sales?
That was my 1st thought, as well.
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The author that wrote Farve's book calling him a bad man and not to buy the book: https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/09/13/brett-favre-biographer-blasts-ex-packers-quarterback/10372282002/
Must bea a Bare's phan, aina?
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Two back offense could get over used
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/15/packers-have-to-be-mindful-of-how-often-aj-dillon-and-aaron-jones-are-utilized-together/
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Rookie WR development may allow Lazard to play more in the slot
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/16/more-opportunities-for-packers-rookie-wrs-means-more-slot-snaps-for-allen-lazard/
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“If you were to pay me, is there any way the media can find out where it came from and how much?”
— Favre text message
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“If you were to pay me, is there any way the media can find out where it came from and how much?”
— Favre text message
Should’ve laundered it through Copper Fit.
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“If you were to pay me, is there any way the media can find out where it came from and how much?”
— Favre text message
He’s still on the radio in Milwaukee talking football with his good pal, Mark Chmura
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/18/packers-wr-allen-lazard-ankle-expected-to-play-vs-bears-in-week-2/
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Looking forward to The Packers adding another win to the series total versus the Bears tonight
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Not exactly an inspiring start.
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Cobb is a reliable player.
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Some real weak sauce in the middle of this defense.
Clark, Campbell, Walker, Amos, savage MIA tonite.
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Bears still suck…
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Packers have an impressive ground attack.
Rodgers spread the ball around to a lot of different receivers
Was a good win for the Lambeau faithful
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Packers have an impressive ground attack.
Rodgers spread the ball around to a lot of different receivers
Was a good win for the Lambeau faithful
His receivers are trash. Bet he wishes he had a GM that could get him a Davante Adams or Tyreek Hill
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Packers have an impressive ground attack.
Rodgers spread the ball around to a lot of different receivers
Was a good win for the Lambeau faithful
Good win for the Pack is right. "The Bears are who we thought they are", a 1-3 win team with little NFL talent and in total rebuild. Impressive wins over the Bears would be something like 42-7.
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Good win for the Pack is right. "The Bears are who we thought they are", a 1-3 win team with little NFL talent and in total rebuild. Impressive wins over the Bears would be something like 42-7.
They already have 1 win. They play in the NFC North. There are a lot of bad NFL teams. They could win 3 of their next four. They stink, but so do many teams.
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Good win for the Pack is right. "The Bears are who we thought they are", a 1-3 win team with little NFL talent and in total rebuild. Impressive wins over the Bears would be something like 42-7.
Yea, given your recent assessments on the Bears, this points to them being 6-11 to 8-9. First they could go 0-17. Then it was going to be "ugly" yesterday. Now they are still only a 1-3 win team. Not sure who had some unrealistic expectations. Seems like anyone who didn't expect them to be 0-17 or 1-16 needs to be course corrected by you.
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His receivers are trash. Bet he wishes he had a GM that could get him a Davante Adams or Tyreek Hill
where would that money come from tho?
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where would that money come from tho?
Rodgers
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Rodgers
Ayahuasca ain't cheap, buddy.
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Ayahuasca ain't cheap, buddy.
Nobody wants to play with him, anyway
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They already have 1 win. They play in the NFC North. There are a lot of bad NFL teams. They could win 3 of their next four. They stink, but so do many teams.
The North might be the best division in the NFC
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Mike Evans received a one game suspension for shoving Marshon Lattimore in the Bucs Saints brawl on Sunday. One less quality receiver for the Packers to worry about now.
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Mike Evans received a one game suspension for shoving Marshon Lattimore in the Bucs Saints brawl on Sunday. One less quality receiver for the Packers to worry about now.
The league is rigged for the Packers. It’s sickening
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The North might be the best division in the NFC
Lol.
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Mike Evans received a one game suspension for shoving Marshon Lattimore in the Bucs Saints brawl on Sunday. One less quality receiver for the Packers to worry about now.
He most definitely deserved to be suspended.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-teammates-appear-to-reference-aaron-rodgers-ayahuasca-use-in-td-celebration-023554465.html
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https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-teammates-appear-to-reference-aaron-rodgers-ayahuasca-use-in-td-celebration-023554465.html
Terrible example for the kids. Disgusting what society has become
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I hope the next TD celebration references AR's witch use
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Petrocelli, dis kountry iz sew fooked up, aina?
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Petrocelli, dis kountry iz sew fooked up, aina?
Rodgers illicit drug use and cheering by Packers fans for him makes me sick. Where’s Brent Favre when you need him? SMDH
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Terrible example for the kids. Disgusting what society has become
We must protect the children. I worry about the carnage to these precious, delicate human beings.
They are our future, for God’s sake.
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1st CRT and now THIS!?
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https://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/25822/without-mike-evans-are-the-tampa-bay-buccaneers-in-trouble-against-aaron-rodgers-and-the-green-bay-packers
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https://www.espn.com/blog/tampa-bay-buccaneers/post/_/id/25822/without-mike-evans-are-the-tampa-bay-buccaneers-in-trouble-against-aaron-rodgers-and-the-green-bay-packers
What a terrible article. Might be the worst thing I’ve ever read
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What a terrible article. Might be the worst thing I’ve ever read
Have you read any of 4ever's posts?
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Aaron Rodgers speaks of the End Zone Celebration
https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1572292505265401857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1572292505265401857%7Ctwgr%5E432c064b9748f4f7562607fd0e74c5a20f4fc42f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-941627932274286061.ampproject.net%2F2209072154000%2Fframe.html
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Aaron Rodgers speaks of the End Zone Celebration
https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1572292505265401857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1572292505265401857%7Ctwgr%5E432c064b9748f4f7562607fd0e74c5a20f4fc42f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-941627932274286061.ampproject.net%2F2209072154000%2Fframe.html
I like his stance drugs can’t come from weeds. Going through his stoner phase at age 40 is quite the midlife crisis. Wonder how many Pink Floyd The Wall stickers he has hung up on his locker
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I like his stance drugs can’t come from weeds. Going through his stoner phase at age 40 is quite the midlife crisis. Wonder how many Pink Floyd The Wall stickers he has hung up on his locker
Don't forget his galaxy mind tattoo
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Don't forget his galaxy mind tattoo
It’s a pretty deep tattoo, man. He found it at Hot Topic
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Things keep getting worse for The Bucs. Akiem Hicks is now hurt. When they signed a Bears defective products what did they expect ?
Packers run game will have a field day.
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/09/report-akiem-hicks-may-miss-a-month/
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Things keep getting worse for The Bucs. Akiem Hicks is now hurt. When they signed a Bears defective products what did they expect ?
Packers run game will have a field day.
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/09/report-akiem-hicks-may-miss-a-month/
What about the Buccs run game? Packers run defense has been far worse
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https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-teammates-appear-to-reference-aaron-rodgers-ayahuasca-use-in-td-celebration-023554465.html
love it. Want to see more of it and continue to drive Bears fans crazy 🤪
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I like his stance drugs can’t come from weeds. Going through his stoner phase at age 40 is quite the midlife crisis. Wonder how many Pink Floyd The Wall stickers he has hung up on his locker
23-5 record against the Bears while stoned to the bejeezus is pretty impressive.
Well not really, it's the Bears...
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23-5 record against the Bears while stoned to the bejeezus is pretty impressive.
Well not really, it's the Bears...
You could take a group of kindergartners and go 23-5 against the Bears
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Should be able to exploit weak Bucs offensive line
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/packers-dl-kenny-clark-producing-dominant-start-to-2022-as-a-pass-rusher/
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Should be able to exploit weak Bucs offensive line
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/20/packers-dl-kenny-clark-producing-dominant-start-to-2022-as-a-pass-rusher/
This is a good point. The Bears and Vikings have two of the best lines in football
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You could take a group of kindergartners and go 23-5 against the Bears
What if the kindergartners were coached by a one Mike Ditka?
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What if the kindergartners were coached by a one Mike Ditka?
28-0 and the sun would implode
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This is a good point. The Bears and Vikings have two of the best lines in football
"Best lines" of coke?
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Is Rodgers poised to break the Florida Jinx
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/09/aaron-rodgers-sad-history-in-tampa/#more-306080
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Keeps looking better and better this week for The Packers against the injured Bucs
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/09/bucs-injury-woes-mount/#more-306174
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Keeps looking better and better this week for The Packers against the injured Bucs
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2022/09/bucs-injury-woes-mount/#more-306174
Only way Rodgers can beat Brady
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Rodgers has a game plan to win against the Bucs .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/22/aaron-rodgers-has-some-ideas-on-how-packers-can-beat-buccaneers/
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Rodgers has a game plan to win against the Bucs .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/22/aaron-rodgers-has-some-ideas-on-how-packers-can-beat-buccaneers/
Well, it’s not January for starters, so he has a better chance
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Looks like both teams are going to be running the ball a lot this week
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/22/packers-buccaneers-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-run-games-week-3-aaron-jones-leonard-fournette/
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Rodgers has a game plan to win against the Bucs .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/22/aaron-rodgers-has-some-ideas-on-how-packers-can-beat-buccaneers/
Didn't read it but does Rodgers include scoring more points than the Bucs in his plan? The analytics guys can check me on this but I think that's one of the better Win/Loss indicators. But I might have that confused with 'yards after the catch'.
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Sammi Watkins has a hard time staying healthy
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/analyzing-packers-final-injury-report-for-week-3-vs-buccaneers/
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Sammi Watkins has a hard time staying healthy
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/analyzing-packers-final-injury-report-for-week-3-vs-buccaneers/
My source inside the Packers locker room said Rodgers doesn’t like Watkins
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Sammy Watkins now on IR... Out for 4 gm minimum ! ! ! 8-)
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Sammy Watkins now on IR... Out for 4 gm minimum ! ! ! 8-)
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/24/packers-place-wr-sammy-watkins-hamstring-on-injured-reserve/
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Sammy Watkins now on IR... Out for 4 gm minimum ! ! ! 8-)
He does this every year.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/24/packers-place-wr-sammy-watkins-hamstring-on-injured-reserve/
Rodgers wants him out. Look for him to get traded or cut. My inside source says Rodgers wants Kumerow back regardless of cost
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Rodgers wants him out. Look for him to get traded or cut. My inside source says Rodgers wants Kumerow back regardless of cost
Word is Rodgers called in Spackler to deal with the hamstring hoping Watkins will quit the game.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-LWb71QCkVE/mqdefault.jpg)
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I observed Lots of Optimistic Packers fans on the plane heading to Tampa.
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I observed Lots of Optimistic Packers fans on the plane heading to Tampa.
ayahuasca?
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Rodgers wants him out. Look for him to get traded or cut. My inside source says Rodgers wants Kumerow back regardless of cost
Nah, ya herd rong. Its Bill Schroeder orr or bust, aina?
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Bakhtiari may be back today. Would be a huge plus for The Packers cause
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/bakhtiari-expected-to-play-vs-buccaneers
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Bakhtiari really making a difference today for Packers . Rodgers looked comfortable on first drive
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Bakhtiari really making a difference today for Packers . Rodgers looked comfortable on first drive
I’m at the game. He was holding the whole drive but the league is rigged
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Super clutch on 3rd downs so far. Couldn’t ask for a better start.
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Packers have this game comfortably under control.
Bucs have no offense .
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Packers have this game comfortably under control.
Bucs have no offense .
And the Packers have the refs on their side like usual.
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Nice to see Rodgers show up in an important game
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Quality win for The Packers . This gives the team some momentum .
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Do the packers win that game with the previous special teams? The running into the kicker was a bad call and the punter was really solid.
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Big game for GB. Probably see TB again in playoffs.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/9-standouts-from-packers-14-12-win-over-buccaneers/
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Quality win for The Packers . This gives the team some momentum .
Momentum isn’t real
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Rodgers surveillance may have contributed to Bucs 2 Point Failure
https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/26/nfl-bucs-packers-aaron-rodgers-jumbotron-2-point-conversion/
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Game ball goes to De'Vondre Campbell for that tip.
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Romeo playing well
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/26/inside-the-hot-start-to-romeo-doubs-rookie-season-for-packers/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/26/early-optimism-that-packers-cb-jaire-alexander-avoided-significant-injury/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/26/early-optimism-that-packers-cb-jaire-alexander-avoided-significant-injury/
He got paid and became injury prone. Another packers bust
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Packers Special teams have improved
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/27/rudy-ford-and-keisean-nixon-making-huge-difference-on-packers-punt-coverage-unit/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/09/29/packers-wr-romeo-doubs-named-pepsi-nfl-rookie-of-the-week-for-week-3/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/analyzing-packers-final-injury-report-for-week-4-vs-patriots/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/6-standouts-from-packers-27-24-win-over-patriots/
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Rodgers calls for more opportunities for Cobb
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/06/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-randall-cobb-deserves-more-opportunities/
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Rodgers calls for more opportunities for Cobb
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/06/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-randall-cobb-deserves-more-opportunities/
For what? Getting hurt?
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https://www.packers.com/news/third-and-clutch-randall-cobb-shines-in-go-to-moments
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Rodgers calls for more opportunities for Cobb
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/06/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-randall-cobb-deserves-more-opportunities/
agree! randy is a veteran, he and aaron know each other, and he isn't afraid to catch the heaters in the middle
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https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/giants-defensive-coordinator-compares-rodgers-to-python
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Rematch of the 1962 NFL Championship today in London
https://nypost.com/2022/10/09/giants-face-big-test-vs-aaron-rodgers-packers/
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Rematch of the 1962 NFL Championship today in London
https://nypost.com/2022/10/09/giants-face-big-test-vs-aaron-rodgers-packers/
Also a rematch of the 2011 NFC Divisional Playoff game
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Rodgers wanted to air it out this game. So far he is staying on that plan.
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Weak a$$ defense.
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Weak a$$ defense.
They’ve given up 13 points through 3 quarters. Calm down.
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They’ve given up 13 points through 3 quarters. Calm down.
They can’t get off the field though. Walker is getting lost out there.
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Just a terrible set of plays on that 3 and out. Defense is gassed.
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Wow. What was that call on the Giants?
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Douglas has had a ROUGH day.
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They’ve given up 13 points through 3 quarters. Calm down.
Good call.
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Good call.
They’re 7th in points per game given up. 6th in yards per game given up. When you’re on the field an entire half, you’re going to give up a couple drives. The defense isn’t the issue with the Packers.
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The problem with the Packers is the QB. He’s a loser and it permeates the rest of the organization.
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Wow. That play had no chance!
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Should have stuck with the run. Both of those plays were awful.
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Should have stuck with the run. Both of those plays were awful.
They reminded me of Bears plays with Nagy.
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Giant defense line came through in the clutch
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They reminded me of Bears plays with Nagy.
Lol. Yeah that’s exactly what that was.
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That’s a really bad loss in conference.
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This could be the end of the Rodgers era in GB. They just don't look that good to me.
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Game ball to Giant Defensive line
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Just a terrible effort on both sides in that second half. They took that timeout early during a nice drive, got sacked, and it was all downhill from there.
Just a bad loss.
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They’re 7th in points per game given up. 6th in yards per game given up. When you’re on the field an entire half, you’re going to give up a couple drives. The defense isn’t the issue with the Packers.
::) Yes. The D is great because they stopped the Bears and NE with a backup QB.
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Just a terrible effort on both sides in that second half. They took that timeout early during a nice drive, got sacked, and it was all downhill from there.
Just a bad loss.
Spot on.
You could have included the coaching, too. 65% pass - 35% run.
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Hot take…the Packers are kinda average.
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Hot take…the Packers are kinda average.
Is it a hot take if everyone can see it? ;)
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::) Yes. The D is great because they stopped the Bears and NE with a backup QB.
Defense 7th in PPG allowed. Offense 21st in PPG. But the defense is the problem. Uh huh.
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Rodgers sucks. Throwing 3 deep balls with no chance going 3 and out after the giants tied the game at 20. Great way to let your defense rest.
Two no chance balls from the 4 to tie the game.
Defense gave up a lot of 1st downs.
crapty call by refs to start the second half changing a sack and 2nd and 16 to a 10 yard penalty and 1st down for the giants.
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Rodgers sucks. Throwing 3 deep balls with no chance going 3 and out after the giants tied the game at 20. Great way to let your defense rest.
Two no chance balls from the 4 to tie the game.
Defense gave up a lot of 1st downs.
crapty call by refs to start the second half changing a sack and 2nd and 16 to a 10 yard penalty and 1st down for the giants.
It was a clear penalty. Douglas (Savage?) grabbed him.
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Rodgers is a loser
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Rodgers sucks. Throwing 3 deep balls with no chance going 3 and out after the giants tied the game at 20. Great way to let your defense rest.
Two no chance balls from the 4 to tie the game.
Defense gave up a lot of 1st downs.
crapty call by refs to start the second half changing a sack and 2nd and 16 to a 10 yard penalty and 1st down for the giants.
I agree with this analysis
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Defense 7th in PPG allowed. Offense 21st in PPG. But the defense is the problem. Uh huh.
DVOA has had the Pack defense smack dab in the middle all season. Not saying they are the problem, but this isn’t a great defense, and they’ve gone up against some really bad offenses thus far.
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Defense 7th in PPG allowed. Offense 21st in PPG. But the defense is the problem. Uh huh.
Kirk Cousins
Justin Fields
Tom Brady sans receivers
Bailey Zappe
Daniel Jones
Not exactly Murderer's Row.
Like Dish said, the defense may not be the problem, but I wouldn't hang my hat on them either.
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Kirk Cousins
Justin Fields
Tom Brady sans receivers
Bailey Zappe
Daniel Jones
Not exactly Murderer's Row.
Like Dish said, the defense may not be the problem, but I wouldn't hang my hat on them either.
The defense is fine. In today’s NFL, fine is fine
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Kirk Cousins
Justin Fields
Tom Brady sans receivers
Bailey Zappe
Daniel Jones
Not exactly Murderer's Row.
Like Dish said, the defense may not be the problem, but I wouldn't hang my hat on them either.
Nobody’s hanging their hat on the defense. But crying about it is pretty silly. The defense is fine. The offense being unable to put a drive together is the issue.
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Nobody’s hanging their hat on the defense. But crying about it is pretty silly. The defense is fine. The offense being unable to put a drive together is the issue.
The QB refuses to run the ball. People will pin that on LaFleur but it’s the QB
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/09/packers-pass-defense-comes-up-short-against-giants/
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Hot take…the Packers are kinda average.
So is Rodgers, since the SF playoff game last year. Can't seem to read the field anymore, lost his pinpoint accuracy, and his deep balls suck. Sad.
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Hot take…the Packers are kinda average.
The good thing is they still play in the NFC North. Average wins you the division in the North.
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So is Rodgers, since the SF playoff game last year. Can't seem to read the field anymore, lost his pinpoint accuracy, and his deep balls suck. Sad.
$50M doesn't buy you what it used to.
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$50M doesn't buy you what it used to.
Rodgers is the smartest guy in the room. He’ll figure it out. By figuring it out, I mean who to blame that isn’t him
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The QB refuses to run the ball. People will pin that on LaFleur but it’s the QB
Yea, I think he gets ultimate discretion at the line. We have no idea the run/pass mix that’s being called. Also, LaFleur isnt going to call out Rodgers in the media.
Also, agree with the point regarding the deep ball. I don’t know the last time Rodgers has been reliable on that. It seems like he’s always 5 yards too far.
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Yea, I think he gets ultimate discretion at the line. We have no idea the run/pass mix that’s being called. Also, LaFleur isnt going to call out Rodgers in the media.
Also, agree with the point regarding the deep ball. I don’t know the last time Rodgers has been reliable on that. It seems like he’s always 5 yards too far.
I think on a lot of deep shots, the WR holds as much blame as the QB. The deep ball from a lot of QBs is awful in the league right now
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I knew the Giants would win. My d-i-l went to the game. Her father takes her to a game away from Lambeau every year and they always lose (see Giants in 2013).
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Some interesting names on these grading lists.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/10/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-week-5-loss-to-giants/
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The Packers are reaping what they sowed through a lot of hubris in their last couple of drafts. They drafted luxury (Love) or niche (DeGuara) players consistently in years past, and positions that have not historically been high-value returns (DT, ILB). They traded 2 2nd round picks for a what is currently a gadget player.
Talent wins out, and the Packers seemingly believed they could coach subpar talent into a contender. Thus far, they're wrong.
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The Packers are reaping what they sowed through a lot of hubris in their last couple of drafts. They drafted luxury (Love) or niche (DeGuara) players consistently in years past, and positions that have not historically been high-value returns (DT, ILB). They traded 2 2nd round picks for a what is currently a gadget player.
Talent wins out, and the Packers seemingly believed they could coach subpar talent into a contender. Thus far, they're wrong.
I think you are spot on here. I have never been a fan of Gutey's draft philosophy.
On the other hand, we all knew the beginning of the season was going to be rough, especially on offense. And I have always believed you try to build momentum through the middle of the season to be at your best late in the season. I still think that is very possible with this offense if they stay healthy.
The defense, on the other hand has been extremely disappointing. They were expected by many to be Top 5 or at least close to it. Instead they have been very average while going against a bunch of bums at QB. I worry what will happen when they play better than average offenses and QBs.
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The Packers are reaping what they sowed through a lot of hubris in their last couple of drafts. They drafted luxury (Love) or niche (DeGuara) players consistently in years past, and positions that have not historically been high-value returns (DT, ILB). They traded 2 2nd round picks for a what is currently a gadget player.
Talent wins out, and the Packers seemingly believed they could coach subpar talent into a contender. Thus far, they're wrong.
Eh. The players are fine. The ability to reign in Rodgers' ego is too difficult, and the defense is playing Barry's zone when they should be playing man defense.
Just a lot of stupid crap that should be put squarely on the shoulders of MLF.
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I think Gutey has by and large been fine. I just think he has been devaluing the WR position too much.
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Eh. The players are fine. The ability to reign in Rodgers' ego is too difficult, and the defense is playing Barry's zone when they should be playing man defense.
Just a lot of stupid crap that should be put squarely on the shoulders of MLF.
MLF is terrified of Rodgers. Say what you will about McCarthy and Thompson but when they had the chance to extract themselves from the Dongslinger, they didn’t hesitate and were better for it
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Rodgers says thumb should be ready by Game Day
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/12/packers-aaron-rodgers-wednesday-interview-thumb-jets-week-six/
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Rodgers says thumb should be ready by Game Day
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/12/packers-aaron-rodgers-wednesday-interview-thumb-jets-week-six/
Too bad for the Packers
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Rodgers says thumb should be ready by Game Day
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/12/packers-aaron-rodgers-wednesday-interview-thumb-jets-week-six/
Making excuses for Sunday already
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Rodgers says thumb should be ready by Game Day
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/12/packers-aaron-rodgers-wednesday-interview-thumb-jets-week-six/
Just in time to not hand it off to the best 1-2 punch in football
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This article lays out how the Packers have a tough schedule ahead
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/13/brutal-stretch-of-games-travel-coming-up-for-packers/
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This article lays out how the Packers have a tough schedule ahead
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/13/brutal-stretch-of-games-travel-coming-up-for-packers/
Excuse machine propaganda overload
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Rumors that Rodgers and the Packers knew before the season started that this is definitely Rodgers last season. I cannot confirm this anywhere but he said it was from an ESPN talking head not named Schefter.
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Rumors that Rodgers and the Packers knew before the season started that this is definitely Rodgers last season. I cannot confirm this anywhere but he said it was from an ESPN talking head not named Schefter.
How he has completely morphed into the Dongslinger is remarkable. Wonder who he throws a back breaking interception to that ends the Packers season
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Rumors that Rodgers and the Packers knew before the season started that this is definitely Rodgers last season. I cannot confirm this anywhere but he said it was from an ESPN talking head not named Schefter.
Weird way to go out. Why not just retire after Davante moved on?
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I’m not trusting any sort of report like this until Rodgers actually announces a retirement. I think he thrives on being in the spotlight and this is just one way the conversation can be about him.
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Weird way to go out. Why not just retire after Davante moved on?
Cause he's obsessed with being in the spotlight. I don't think he's retiring. I can see him strong arming a move to a West Coast team for another season or 2. SF looking more and more available.
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Cause he's obsessed with being in the spotlight. I don't think he's retiring. I can see him strong arming a move to a West Coast team for another season or 2. SF looking more and more available.
I'm not looking forward to those future Love vs. Fields match-ups.
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Cause he's obsessed with being in the spotlight. I don't think he's retiring. I can see him strong arming a move to a West Coast team for another season or 2. SF looking more and more available.
The team that originally spurned him? I've got a bridge to sell you if you think Mr. Rodgers doesn't hold grudges.
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The team that originally spurned him? I've got a bridge to sell you if you think Mr. Rodgers doesn't hold grudges.
He’s play for the Niners in a freaking heartbeat
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Keeping it in the family
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/15/packers-lg-jon-runyan-jr-notified-of-5k-fine-from-his-own-dad/
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Defense is definitely not the issue with this Packers team.
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Rodgers comman them to a -6 yard drive and takes the sack to move them out of field goal range. Wow is he bad.
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Shoulda scheduled this game on a Thursday night.
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Hey, quick passes work. The prevent defense probably helps too.
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Newman and Jenkins are getting beat like red-headed step-children.
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Newman is a turnstile.
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Hot take:
The NFL is terrible
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Hot take:
The NFL is terrible
The Packers certainly are.
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I don’t understand why Jenkins wasn’t moved back inside and Nijman slid into the RT position. Couldn’t be any worse than what’s going on now.
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Bring in Love. AR is going to get hurt.
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
Peddle Rogahs azz, aina?
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Peddle all their asses, aina?
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Crean sucks
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What’s funny is the Packers are fortunate to be 3-3. Two of their wins are borderline fraudulent.
That team is not good.
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An embarrassing performance today
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With the Lions having a bye week, I appreciate the Packers doing a fair Detroit imitation, so that I don't feel like I am missing anything.
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1581740380936368129?s=46&t=Ny16WIpUnoJz-CbGPV4DJQ
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https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1581740380936368129?s=46&t=Ny16WIpUnoJz-CbGPV4DJQ
Finally, a good hit by a Packer today.
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Packers have two road games on a row coming up . Need to get their act together .
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Finally, a good hit by a Packer today.
Hit harder than the defense.
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Hit harder than the defense.
Defense gave up 278 yards. Team gave up 27. 7 were a blocked punt returned for a touchdown. 3 were a fumble that left the Jets already in field goal position. Defense really hasn’t been the issue with this team.
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With the Lions having a bye week, I appreciate the Packers doing a fair Detroit imitation, so that I don't feel like I am missing anything.
I'm thinking of getting on the Lions bandwagon early. Plenty of good seats available.
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Not for this season. The defense lacks playmakers on the d-line and at linebacker. And for as long as I can remember, Spinal Tap drummers have better health than Lions dbs.
So at least one more draft, particularly if they can get a mauler in the middle and a mlb.
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Trade Rodgers for Allen
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Pack has won with smoke and mirrors for a long time. Their lack of talent is bitin' 'em in da ass, hey?
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The Packers seem to lack the talent they usually have.
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The Packers seem to lack the talent they usually have.
Cobb, a reliable receiver, going to be out for a while doesn't help.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/16/packers-wr-randall-cob-avoids-season-ending-ankle-injury/
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Cobb, a reliable receiver, going to be out for a while doesn't help.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/16/packers-wr-randall-cob-avoids-season-ending-ankle-injury/
Robbie Anderson should be available. The Pack should go get him.
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Robbie Anderson should be available. The Pack should go get him.
Please.
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Give me AB, OBJ, Gronk, and Anderson.
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Cobb, a reliable receiver, going to be out for a while doesn't help.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/16/packers-wr-randall-cob-avoids-season-ending-ankle-injury/
Hes’s quite reliable at being hurt
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I don’t understand why Jenkins wasn’t moved back inside and Nijman slid into the RT position. Couldn’t be any worse than what’s going on now.
It's absolutely wild that almost every packer fan I've talked to says this, but MLF and co. can't figure it out.
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Pack has won with smoke and mirrors for a long time. Their lack of talent is bitin' 'em in da ass, hey?
It's coaching, not talent, which is the problem.
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Woj on the sidelines, hey?
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Woj on the sidelines, hey?
12 is the coach
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It's coaching, not talent, which is the problem.
The Coach is blaming The Offensive Line
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/17/matt-lafleur-poor-offensive-line-play-was-no-1-issue-vs-jets/
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The Coach is blaming The Offensive Line
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/17/matt-lafleur-poor-offensive-line-play-was-no-1-issue-vs-jets/
Oh for sure. Royce Newman was terrible, and Jenkins has also looked terrible at RT.
I'm guessing you'll see Newman on the bench and Jenkins back in at G this week. Yosh headed to RT. If that doesn't fix things, it could be a long season in Green Bay.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/17/aaron-rodgers-if-theres-a-trade-opportunity-i-expect-packers-to-be-in-the-mix/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/18/opposing-gms-are-certain-packers-will-search-for-wr-trade-before-deadline/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/18/opposing-gms-are-certain-packers-will-search-for-wr-trade-before-deadline/
Bring Jake Kumerow home
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https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/sure-handed-tonyan-a-perfect-10-after-knee-injury
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Bring Jake Kumerow home
Tony the Tuna will make it happen from above.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34847517/randall-cobb-expected-worst-injury-takes-good-news-return
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/quick-passing-game-key-packers-125349314.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/quick-passing-game-key-packers-125349314.html
Wonder if Coach Rodgers will go for this
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Rodgers says he has the answers wants the keys to car
https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-thinks-he-can-fix-the-packers-broken-offense-should-matt-la-fleur-hand-him-the-keys-014315429.html
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Rodgers says he has the answers wants the keys to car
https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-thinks-he-can-fix-the-packers-broken-offense-should-matt-la-fleur-hand-him-the-keys-014315429.html
Listen to Coach Rodgers. Best GM and coach in the buisness
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Yeah, this scheme is the problem. ::) It has lead to two MVP awards and #2, #1 and #1 seeds in the NFC.
Look, I get what he is saying about inexperienced receivers - and I blame Gutey for that. But cmon...every year there is drama with this guy. Remember when he hated the pretty straight forward, West Coast offense scheme that McCarthy used?
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Yeah, this scheme is the problem. ::) It has lead to two MVP awards and #2, #1 and #1 seeds in the NFC.
Look, I get what he is saying about inexperienced receivers - and I blame Gutey for that. But cmon...every year there is drama with this guy. Remember when he hated the pretty straight forward, West Coast offense scheme that McCarthy used?
It’s never 12’s fault and he knows that half the fanbase will side with him
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I think after the last couple of years, you'd be surprised on who the fanbase would side with.
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I think after the last couple of years, you'd be surprised on who the fanbase would side with.
Especially as he has started having more bad throws, bad decisions, and completely missing open receivers (bad reads), because he is fixated on a target (in the past Adams), or just decides he doesn't trust others.
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Bahktiari is out
https://twitter.com/byryanwood/status/1584210351511728128?s=46&t=-_HqNjmqaVhzr_NCrVtfJw
Locker room is a mess, Coach is in over his head, GM’s roster decisions a disaster and the QB is more worried about enema’s than TDs. Burn it down
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Still the worst ST in the league.
And why is Amari still employed in GB? Terrible WR and an even worse ST player.
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Still the worst ST in the league.
And why is Amari still employed in GB? Terrible WR and an even worse ST player.
I keep asking myself this same question every game. I'm 100% certain you can find a better player off the streets.
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There’s a reason Rodgers locked in on Davante. The rest of the pass catchers that Gutey has given him STINK!
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Amari needs to be cut. Last time he fumbled, ST coach went out of his way to say he is still his guy.
Still the worst ST in the league.
And why is Amari still employed in GB? Terrible WR and an even worse ST player.
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Questionable call (not a bad call) to negate a TD for the Packers. Looked like the receiver initiated contact, which then would not be illegal contact. But one of those bang-bang type plays that are impossible.
If it wouldn't have been for the league emphasizing to call that this week, it wouldn't have been called.
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Any ratings system that has the Packers defense as the 24th best defense and 10th best offense is incredibly flawed.
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This game is just terrible.
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Utterly embarrassing on both sides of the ball.
Oh, and Special Teams, too.
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Utterly embarrassing on both sides of the ball.
Oh, and Special Teams, too.
The defense is definitely not embarassing. Weak vs the run, sure, but that unit is fine if the offense was functional.
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Rodgers has been bad.
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The defense is definitely not embarassing. Weak vs the run, sure, but that unit is fine if the offense was functional.
You really don’t think this defense is embarrassing?
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You really don’t think this defense is embarrassing?
Not really. It’s not great but if the offense could put drives together it would be fine.
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You really don’t think this defense is embarrassing?
I do not.
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Defense Eembarrassing in last 3 games in 2nd half.
Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers?
:-*
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Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers?
:-*
Maybe then they’d run the ball on 4th and 1
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Defense Eembarrassing in last 3 games in 2nd half.
Holy crap the offense is bad, imagine if we did not have Rodgers?
:-*
The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.
Rodgers isn't making things better. He is missing open receivers. He overthrew an open deep receiver by about 20 yards (if it wasn't a horrible throw, it would have been PI and in scoring position). He isn't remotely mobile...can't roll out, which allows the defensive line to just t-up and drive straight at him and collapse the pocket.
Then you have bad communication between Rodgers and the receivers...which is in part because of Rodgers not finding time to work with them in the offseason like other QBs do.
Should have traded him for a haul and rebuilt.
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Also, why are there so many completely wide open receivers for every team we play. So many mental mistakes and poor discipline on defense, offense, and ST.
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Also, why are there so many completely wide open receivers for every team we play. So many mental mistakes and poor discipline on defense, offense, and ST.
Because this defense is really bad.
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Packers are a joke. Washington as crapty as they are with an average to bad backup QB are marching up and down the field.
Meanwhile the reigning 2 time MVP can barely muster 100 yards in 3 quarters.
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Packers are a joke. Washington as crapty as they are with an average to bad backup QB are marching up and down the field.
Meanwhile the reigning 2 time MVP can barely muster 100 yards in 3 quarters.
GB has had a run where they have faced 6 bad or backup QBs. The D has still been brutal.
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Because this defense is really bad.
It actually isn’t. I know you have been invested in this line since Carroll was named DC, but the defense is fine. They are on the field a ton because the offense isn’t giving them any breaks.
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The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.
This. When a defense’s weakness is against the run to begin with, and then you put them on the field for 30 minutes the first three quarters, they are going to struggle to get off the field in the second half every time.
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The defense is on the field too long, because the offense is bad.
The defense is on the field too long because THEY are bad. Maybe make a play and get off the field.
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Nah, defense sucks, can not get any critical stops. Paid Campbell and Douglas after big FA years and they are now pedestrian. Stokes sucks after good rookie year. Zero pressure from the line.
They have talent, maybe the scheme / D coordinator is the issue?
This. When a defense’s weakness is against the run to begin with, and then you put them on the field for 30 minutes the first three quarters, they are going to struggle to get off the field in the second half every time.
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It’s amazing how much joy the tv crew takes joy in underdog teams beating rodgers and the packers.
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Not even an attempt at the hail mary. Instead laterals?
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That end summarized perfectly this Packers team.
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You guys actually lost to WASHINGTON. Lol.
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Careful, the NFL version of KenPom’s numbers are about to come out to show us how bad the Packers defense is. And if you don’t buy it, you don’t know football. Because the offense is definitely a top 10 offense like the numbers show and the defense is a bottom 10 defense.
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The defense is on the field too long because THEY are bad. Maybe make a play and get off the field.
i have got to go with jock on this one-wow they are all bad bad bad. i was going to get out to golf course because i knew the packers weren't playing today, but all the tee times were filled
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No way any stat shows the packer offense is top 10.
Careful, the NFL version of KenPom’s numbers are about to come out to show us how bad the Packers defense is. And if you don’t buy it, you don’t know football. Because the offense is definitely a top 10 offense like the numbers show and the defense is a bottom 10 defense.
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No way any stat shows the packer offense is top 10.
Oh trust me. Jockey made sure to tell me I needed to check out the irrefutable DVOA numbers that do not lie and tell the entire picture of a football team. 10th best offense, 24th best defense. You just don’t know football if you aren’t on the same page as the all important DVOA.
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The Packers won’t be serious contenders until they get rid of 12.
He’s a stone cold loser
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Oh trust me. Jockey made sure to tell me I needed to check out the irrefutable DVOA numbers that do not lie and tell the entire picture of a football team. 10th best offense, 24th best defense. You just don’t know football if you aren’t on the same page as the all important DVOA.
I think the transformation is complete. You have morphed into Chicos. Maybe you can move to Idaho, too. You'd fit right in.
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Was disappointed with the Pathetic Packer Performance . Have to stop these PPP’s soon or the team won’t make the Playoffs .
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I think the transformation is complete. You have morphed into Chicos. Maybe you can move to Idaho, too. You'd fit right in.
Totally unnecessary. And untrue.
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Totally unnecessary. And untrue.
Chico was expert at making something up from a post and then arguing against it. Wades does the same
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I think the transformation is complete. You have morphed into Chicos. Maybe you can move to Idaho, too. You'd fit right in.
Aka “I can no longer defend my horrendous take, it’s clear you were right but I’m too butthurt to admit it and rather than admit that the offense is the problem I’ll just try to redirect the conversation into apparent insults so nobody pays attention to my horrible football takes, after I thought I was being the coolest and smartest guy in the room when I sited DVOA and asked you if you’ve ever heard of it.”
Chico was expert at making something up from a post and then arguing against it. Wades does the same
Make it up? You didn’t say “look at DVOA. If you’ve ever heard of it” last week? Seems you’re the one trying to make stuff up. Odd.
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The defense is bad? I mean maybe when the redski.. commanders are on the field for 17 minutes to the Packers 3, ya eventually they will fold.
The commanders didn't complete a pass in the first quarter....
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The defense is bad? I mean maybe when the redski.. commanders are on the field for 17 minutes to the Packers 3, ya eventually they will fold.
The commanders didn't complete a pass in the first quarter....
That's been the story of the last three losses. Even a good defense can't function in the 4th quarter if they've been ground down to a nub because the offense views getting first downs and running clock as poison.
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Bottom Line: Aaron Rodgers is mortal. Somebody slipped him and Tom Brady some Kryptonite before the season started.
I'm guessing the suppliers were Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and maybe, in Rodgers' case, the rest of the NFC Central.
Both these guys looked pretty pedestrian yesterday.
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KC lost Tyreke Hill and went out and signed Schuster and MVS who had 235 yards yesterday.
GB lost Adams and Gutey signed Sammie Watkins - who has 147 yards this season.
Somebody screwed the pooch.
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That's been the story of the last three losses. Even a good defense can't function in the 4th quarter if they've been ground down to a nub because the offense views getting first downs and running clock as poison.
Why doesn't the other team get tired? GB has run more offensive plays than their opponents this year. Why haven't their defenses worn down?
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Glorious.
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Yes, the GB offense is bad. Yet they have:
1. More 1st downs than the opponents
2. More 3rd down conversions and at a higher percentage than opponents
3. More total yards
4. More offensive plays
5. 500 more passing yards
6. More TDs
Why do these numbers look like this when they have looked so inept on offense? It's because every team they have played (exc. the Queens) have terrible offenses. I don't remember the last team to play so many bad QBs in a row - game after game.
Yet the defense is so soft and weak that they keep losing. That is why GB's offense has better numbers. Big yardage comes from the passing game and their are zero reasons for any opponent to pass much.
My conclusion is that right now it's a photo finish as to which is worse - offense, defense, or ST. There is no good news right now.
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The hardest thing to do in sports is knowing when the rip the band-aid off. Franchises and college programs let coaches and players linger longer than should for a variety of reasons.
There is something admirable in that. Coaches and players can mean a lot to a franchise or program. They could have brought championships and many great moments. It’s hard to move on. I don’t think it’s unnatural or wrong per se to want to let players and coaches go out on their own terms.
When you make that choice, though, the consequences can be harmful short term and long term. The Packers had an opportunity after 2020 to move on from Rodgers. It would have been a bold and controversial choice for the organization. Would it have guaranteed anything? Absolutely not.
We can guess what could of happened, but we don’t know. It’s my opinion the franchise would have set itself up for greater success. The return would have been a bonanza and could have led to other moves, such as the Adams trade. Transition year or two? Yes, but a good front office parlays those opportunities into a young team primed for success.
Maybe, if 12 plays better in the playoffs or the defense makes a stop against Tampa, the Packers have another ring with 12 and keeping him around was worth it. It didn’t happen and while we don’t know what would have happened had they traded him, I’m willing to bet the future would look a whole lot better
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Yes, the GB offense is bad. Yet they have:
1. More 1st downs than the opponents
2. More 3rd down conversions and at a higher percentage than opponents
3. More total yards
4. More offensive plays
5. 500 more passing yards
6. More TDs
Why do these numbers look like this when they have looked so inept on offense? It's because every team they have played (exc. the Queens) have terrible offenses. I don't remember the last team to play so many bad QBs in a row - game after game.
Yet the defense is so soft and weak that they keep losing. That is why GB's offense has better numbers. Big yardage comes from the passing game and their are zero reasons for any opponent to pass much.
My conclusion is that right now it's a photo finish as to which is worse - offense, defense, or ST. There is no good news right now.
My two cents is that your analysis has a tendency to overestimate how good (or underestimate how bad?) a "league average" team is. All but like, 5 teams are kinda crappy. So when you say that the Packers defense is embarassing, or that you can't remember a team that has played so many bad QBs in a row, I think that overinflates just what is going on around the rest of the league.
For example, of the QBs the Packers have played say that Heneicke, Fields, Zappe, and Wilson are bad, and Brady, 2022 Danny Rockets, and Cousins are good. Average passing yards per game of the bad = 121 with 0.5 ints, which is fine. And if you say Rockets is actually bad, then how many qbs are good? Because if your cutoff is above Danny Rockets, LOOOTS of teams have had a similar opposing QB profile to the Packers.
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The hardest thing to do in sports is knowing when the rip the band-aid off. Franchises and college programs let coaches and players linger longer than should for a variety of reasons.
There is something admirable in that. Coaches and players can mean a lot to a franchise or program. They could have brought championships and many great moments. It’s hard to move on. I don’t think it’s unnatural or wrong per se to want to let players and coaches go out on their own terms.
When you make that choice, though, the consequences can be harmful short term and long term. The Packers had an opportunity after 2020 to move on from Rodgers. It would have been a bold and controversial choice for the organization. Would it have guaranteed anything? Absolutely not.
We can guess what could of happened, but we don’t know. It’s my opinion the franchise would have set itself up for greater success. The return would have been a bonanza and could have led to other moves, such as the Adams trade. Transition year or two? Yes, but a good front office parlays those opportunities into a young team primed for success.
Maybe, if 12 plays better in the playoffs or the defense makes a stop against Tampa, the Packers have another ring with 12 and keeping him around was worth it. It didn’t happen and while we don’t know what would have happened had they traded him, I’m willing to bet the future would look a whole lot better
I’m not a Packer fan and just enjoy seeing Rodgers fail because he’s a dingus. So bias noted. But this sounds pretty on point — you can’t blame GB for doing everything it could to keep him at the time because his stats/performance were downright otherworldly; but in hindsight, it was the wrong move.
To paraphrase the men in Glengarry, Rodgers is just not a closer.
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Seahawks sure made the right tough call. Seahawks in first place in the NFC west. Wilson struggling in Denver (and now hurt), Geno Smith have a good year totally unexpected, good draft picks made with the Denver picks last draft, and poised to get two more high picks this year with Denver struggling. And not saddled with a high QB salary cap hit...
That could have been the Packers if they could have made the tough call...
The hardest thing to do in sports is knowing when the rip the band-aid off. Franchises and college programs let coaches and players linger longer than should for a variety of reasons.
There is something admirable in that. Coaches and players can mean a lot to a franchise or program. They could have brought championships and many great moments. It’s hard to move on. I don’t think it’s unnatural or wrong per se to want to let players and coaches go out on their own terms.
When you make that choice, though, the consequences can be harmful short term and long term. The Packers had an opportunity after 2020 to move on from Rodgers. It would have been a bold and controversial choice for the organization. Would it have guaranteed anything? Absolutely not.
We can guess what could of happened, but we don’t know. It’s my opinion the franchise would have set itself up for greater success. The return would have been a bonanza and could have led to other moves, such as the Adams trade. Transition year or two? Yes, but a good front office parlays those opportunities into a young team primed for success.
Maybe, if 12 plays better in the playoffs or the defense makes a stop against Tampa, the Packers have another ring with 12 and keeping him around was worth it. It didn’t happen and while we don’t know what would have happened had they traded him, I’m willing to bet the future would look a whole lot better
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The hardest thing to do in sports is knowing when the rip the band-aid off. Franchises and college programs let coaches and players linger longer than should for a variety of reasons.
There is something admirable in that. Coaches and players can mean a lot to a franchise or program. They could have brought championships and many great moments. It’s hard to move on. I don’t think it’s unnatural or wrong per se to want to let players and coaches go out on their own terms.
When you make that choice, though, the consequences can be harmful short term and long term. The Packers had an opportunity after 2020 to move on from Rodgers. It would have been a bold and controversial choice for the organization. Would it have guaranteed anything? Absolutely not.
We can guess what could of happened, but we don’t know. It’s my opinion the franchise would have set itself up for greater success. The return would have been a bonanza and could have led to other moves, such as the Adams trade. Transition year or two? Yes, but a good front office parlays those opportunities into a young team primed for success.
Maybe, if 12 plays better in the playoffs or the defense makes a stop against Tampa, the Packers have another ring with 12 and keeping him around was worth it. It didn’t happen and while we don’t know what would have happened had they traded him, I’m willing to bet the future would look a whole lot better
IDK, it's pretty hard to quibble with two straight #1 seeds. Yeah in the end that doesn't mean anything, but it's hard to imagine that the future would "look a whole lot better" than the last two seasons. You knew it was going to be bad on the back end, but you were hoping that it would have been later than this year.
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Seahawks sure made the right tough call. Seahawks in first place in the NFC west. Wilson struggling in Denver (and now hurt), Geno Smith have a good year totally unexpected, good draft picks made with the Denver picks last draft, and poised to get two more high picks this year with Denver struggling. And not saddled with a high QB salary cap hit...
That could have been the Packers if they could have made the tough call...
Oh come on.
"If only the Packers would have moved on from Rodgers two years ago, turning a 13-3 season into a .500 season being quarterbacked by the likes of Geno Smith. THEN they would be going places!!!"
Cmon... Russell Wilson isn't Aaron Rodgers. You ride that horse until he dies.
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IDK, it's pretty hard to quibble with two straight #1 seeds. Yeah in the end that doesn't mean anything, but it's hard to imagine that the future would "look a whole lot better" than the last two seasons. You knew it was going to be bad on the back end, but you were hoping that it would have been later than this year.
That’s the rub, I suppose. If the Rams don’t win the Super Bowl last year, all their moves look foolish. Winners write the history and all that.
When the stories broke of Rodgers unhappiness in April of ‘21, that was definitely the time to make the move. It would have made sense financially as well. Maybe we’ll get the full story someday about what the conversations really were between 12 and the front office during 2020 but if he was inclined on moving on like reported, they should have pulled the trigger.
QBs rarely walk away on top. Peyton Manning did riding an all-time defense. Packers had the chance to set themselves up moving forward, now their stuck with a bad contract QB
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1st place in the West, drafted very well with last's Denver's pick this year (additional 1st and 2nd), and positioned well with Denver's 1st and 2nd this year. And they got Fant and a few other players. And not saddled with a huge QB contract. And still winning with Geno Smith more than Denver is with Wilson...
I would trade places with them at this point - Pack should have moved on last year, not two years ago. Looks like the horse died in the off-season...
https://www.q13fox.com/sports/commentary-wilson-trade-could-prove-to-be-biggest-fleecing-of-an-organization-in-modern-sports-history (https://www.q13fox.com/sports/commentary-wilson-trade-could-prove-to-be-biggest-fleecing-of-an-organization-in-modern-sports-history)
Oh come on.
"If only the Packers would have moved on from Rodgers two years ago, turning a 13-3 season into a .500 season being quarterbacked by the likes of Geno Smith. THEN they would be going places!!!"
Cmon... Russell Wilson isn't Aaron Rodgers. You ride that horse until he dies.
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Yes, the GB offense is bad. Yet they have:
1. More 1st downs than the opponents
2. More 3rd down conversions and at a higher percentage than opponents
3. More total yards
4. More offensive plays
5. 500 more passing yards
6. More TDs
Why do these numbers look like this when they have looked so inept on offense? It's because every team they have played (exc. the Queens) have terrible offenses. I don't remember the last team to play so many bad QBs in a row - game after game.
Yet the defense is so soft and weak that they keep losing. That is why GB's offense has better numbers. Big yardage comes from the passing game and their are zero reasons for any opponent to pass much.
My conclusion is that right now it's a photo finish as to which is worse - offense, defense, or ST. There is no good news right now.
You’re smarter than everyone else.
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You’re smarter than everyone else.
No. Just you.
Great analysis, though, on my post ::)
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surprised no has wondered if rodgers has been dabbling with some ayahuasca as part of pregame warmups. is there a pee test for this stuff
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The hardest thing to do in sports is knowing when the rip the band-aid off. Franchises and college programs let coaches and players linger longer than should for a variety of reasons.
There is something admirable in that. Coaches and players can mean a lot to a franchise or program. They could have brought championships and many great moments. It’s hard to move on. I don’t think it’s unnatural or wrong per se to want to let players and coaches go out on their own terms.
When you make that choice, though, the consequences can be harmful short term and long term. The Packers had an opportunity after 2020 to move on from Rodgers. It would have been a bold and controversial choice for the organization. Would it have guaranteed anything? Absolutely not.
We can guess what could of happened, but we don’t know. It’s my opinion the franchise would have set itself up for greater success. The return would have been a bonanza and could have led to other moves, such as the Adams trade. Transition year or two? Yes, but a good front office parlays those opportunities into a young team primed for success.
Maybe, if 12 plays better in the playoffs or the defense makes a stop against Tampa, the Packers have another ring with 12 and keeping him around was worth it. It didn’t happen and while we don’t know what would have happened had they traded him, I’m willing to bet the future would look a whole lot better
Bill James had a long essay on this a few years back - only on baseball teams. But I think it applies to other sports as well. Teams that are winning tend to make less changes than losing teams (pretty obvious statement), so as players age and hit the wall as all players eventually do, they tend to be affected more because the guys they pay big and keep around are usually pretty vital to the team's success.
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1st place in the West, drafted very well with last's Denver's pick this year (additional 1st and 2nd), and positioned well with Denver's 1st and 2nd this year. And they got Fant and a few other players. And not saddled with a huge QB contract. And still winning with Geno Smith more than Denver is with Wilson...
I would trade places with them at this point - Pack should have moved on last year, not two years ago. Looks like the horse died in the off-season...
https://www.q13fox.com/sports/commentary-wilson-trade-could-prove-to-be-biggest-fleecing-of-an-organization-in-modern-sports-history (https://www.q13fox.com/sports/commentary-wilson-trade-could-prove-to-be-biggest-fleecing-of-an-organization-in-modern-sports-history)
Enjoy the Seahawk bandwagon. “Winning the West after Week 7” is a cool banner.
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Bill James had a long essay on this a few years back - only on baseball teams. But I think it applies to other sports as well. Teams that are winning tend to make less changes than losing teams (pretty obvious statement), so as players age and hit the wall as all players eventually do, they tend to be affected more because the guys they pay big and keep around are usually pretty vital to the team's success.
The Packers aren’t unique to this. There’s probably a set of Steelers and Saints fans arguing this as well.
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The Packers aren’t unique to this. There’s probably a set of Steelers and Saints fans arguing this as well.
Coaches need to get over that "I can fix him" mentality. Trubisky, Wentz, Winston - they are what they are. They keep showing us.
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Coaches need to get over that "I can fix him" mentality. Trubisky, Wentz, Winston - they are what they are. They keep showing us.
There’s talent there, so I get it but for every Geno Smith 7 game run, there is a dozen fails
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Yes, the GB offense is bad. Yet they have:
1. More 1st downs than the opponents
2. More 3rd down conversions and at a higher percentage than opponents
3. More total yards
4. More offensive plays
5. 500 more passing yards
6. More TDs
Why do these numbers look like this when they have looked so inept on offense? It's because every team they have played (exc. the Queens) have terrible offenses. I don't remember the last team to play so many bad QBs in a row - game after game.
Yet the defense is so soft and weak that they keep losing. That is why GB's offense has better numbers. Big yardage comes from the passing game and their are zero reasons for any opponent to pass much.
My conclusion is that right now it's a photo finish as to which is worse - offense, defense, or ST. There is no good news right now.
You do realize that the above bolded elements can actually be an argument for how good the defense has been, right. Especially since the offense has been pedestrian at best.
If you were to dig deeper, it also highlights part of the problem. Turnover differential, where the Pack is the 6th worst in the league.
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You do realize that the above bolded elements can actually be an argument for how good the defense has been, right. Especially since the offense has been pedestrian at best.
I’m not following your reasoning here, Forgetful
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I’m not following your reasoning here, Forgetful
The GB offense is pedestrian. Middle of road across the board (and that may be generous).
So if the pedestrian offense is outperforming their opponents significantly. That means the defense must be doing a decent job holding the opponent down.
For example. We are the 7th worst in the league at 3rd down conversion percentage. So if we are doing a better job there than our opponents, our defense is doing quite well.
The problem is:
1. Turnovers. We fumble too much, and at really bad moments. That makes the defense have to be on the field too long and it wears them down.
2. Rodgers can't scramble, and our O-line hasn't been stellar. So the defense can rush 3 or 4 and have 7 or 8 in coverage, and still pressure Rodgers.
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No. Just you.
Great analysis, though, on my post ::)
When my “analysis” is met with “you even DVOA bro?” Or “you’re Chicos!” I don’t know how I’m supposed to compete with it. But yeah, I’m the one not providing “analysis.”
You keep wondering why our opponents’ defenses don’t tire like ours does. Well, because their offenses don’t take 2 deep shots on first and second down to bad rookie receivers or over the hill veterans and then throw a bubble screen on third and long over and over in the second half. I’d think someone with such a superior football knowledge could see and understand that.
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will do, they having way more success than the Packers this year and have a boatload of picks and cap room to do something. Packers likely looking up to Seahawks for the next 5 - 7 years...
Enjoy the Seahawk bandwagon. “Winning the West after Week 7” is a cool banner.
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You say 12, I say Erin
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You say 12, I say Erin
Kaaron
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will do, they having way more success than the Packers this year and have a boatload of picks and cap room to do something. Packers likely looking up to Seahawks for the next 5 - 7 years...
Maybe.
But that doesn’t mean they should have gotten rid of Rodgers last year. You don’t get rid of a guy coming off two straight 13 win seasons.
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Kaaron
Qarron
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Rodgers showing leadership by pointing the finger again
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-says-packers-make-too-many-mistakes-some-shouldnt-be-playing
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Rodgers showing leadership by pointing the finger again
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-says-packers-make-too-many-mistakes-some-shouldnt-be-playing
Shocking
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Shocking
All he had to do was throw in an " ... and I am making way too many mistakes, too. I need to do my job better." But he didn't because that's not how he runs.
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All he had to do was throw in an " ... and I am making way too many mistakes, too. I need to do my job better." But he didn't because that's not how he runs.
You mean he wasn't talking about all his mistakes, and questioning whether he should be playing?
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Rodgers showing leadership by pointing the finger again
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-says-packers-make-too-many-mistakes-some-shouldnt-be-playing
i cannot recall when rodgers passes have been so consistently off the mark. with the exception of a few, he has been hard to watch. he is reacting badly/not feeling the pressure and getting sacked way too often. they need to design more rollouts for him or something...? time for lefleur to be a little more creative and add a little "trickery"
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i cannot recall when rodgers passes have been so consistently off the mark. with the exception of a few, he has been hard to watch. he is reacting badly/not feeling the pressure and getting sacked way too often. they need to design more rollouts for him or something...? time for lefleur to be a little more creative and add a little "trickery"
His overall completion percentage is only slightly down, but the ones that he is completing are very short. As of this point, he is setting career lows in both yards per attempt and yards per catch. He just doesn't have the receivers. The young ones might be good someday, but this is the worst group he has had during his career.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/26/aaron-rodgers-on-calling-out-mistakes-publicly-people-in-this-society-have-a-hard-time-hearing-truth-sometimes/
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/26/aaron-rodgers-on-calling-out-mistakes-publicly-people-in-this-society-have-a-hard-time-hearing-truth-sometimes/
Everyone can point the finger at Rodgers for these comments, but the coach isn't making them and should be, and that is a serious issue.
MLF has looked like a clown this year fit for some big red shoes.
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Everyone can point the finger at Rodgers for these comments, but the coach isn't making them and should be, and that is a serious issue.
MLF has looked like a clown this year fit for some big red shoes.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-matt-lafleur-addresses-aaron-rodgers-critical-comments-sometimes-the-truth-hurts/
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-matt-lafleur-addresses-aaron-rodgers-critical-comments-sometimes-the-truth-hurts/
"Uh yeah, what my associate coach said"
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/30/packers-exploring-trade-market-for-wide-receiver-help/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/10/30/packers-exploring-trade-market-for-wide-receiver-help/
No wideout wants to play with him
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Another banner for winning the west after 8 weeks?
Enjoy the Seahawk bandwagon. “Winning the West after Week 7” is a cool banner.
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Another banner for winning the west after 8 weeks?
Yep! Ride that Geno Smith bandwagon as far as you can!
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Another banner for winning the west after 8 weeks?
BTW it doesn’t matter how the Seahawks do this year. Your take was dumb. Dropping Russ, who was taking them nowhere, is a lot different than dripping Rodgers.
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Let’s revisit that after the season when the Seahawks are rolling in their draft picks while packers get nothing for rodgers.
Selling high before a downturn of a valuable trait or a GM. I am not sure you appreciate that.
besides - one can argue that Russell has more in the tank than Rodgers. Seattle made a bold move. Packers ride status quo despite many danger signs.
BTW it doesn’t matter how the Seahawks do this year. Your take was dumb. Dropping Russ, who was taking them nowhere, is a lot different than dripping Rodgers.
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Let’s revisit that after the season when the Seahawks are rolling in their draft picks while packers get nothing for rodgers.
Selling high before a downturn is a valuable trait or a GM. I am not sure you appreciate that.
besides - one can argue that Russell has more in the tank than Rodgers. Seattle made a bold move. Packers ride status quo despite many danger signs.
Lol no. Russ was not near Rodgers. Having more in the tank doesn’t mean anything if the tank is feeding a smaller engine. Russ was already trending down. Denver made a horrid trade and gave him a terrible contract.
No GM is going to trade the reigning MVP who lead their team to the #1 seed. That’s just bad, Monday morning QB thinking.
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Lol no. Russ was not near Rodgers. Having more in the tank doesn’t mean anything if the tank is feeding a smaller engine. Russ was already trending down. Denver made a horrid trade and gave him a terrible contract.
No GM is going to trade the reigning MVP who lead their team to the #1 seed. That’s just bad, Monday morning QB thinking.
He wanted out and the front office knew it. Should have been a no-brainer
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Maybe the packers couldn’t pull the trigger on a Rodgers trade cause they did not have a competent starter like Geno in the waiting : Another Packer GM failure.
Lol no. Russ was not near Rodgers. Having more in the tank doesn’t mean anything if the tank is feeding a smaller engine. Russ was already trending down. Denver made a horrid trade and gave him a terrible contract.
No GM is going to trade the reigning MVP who lead their team to the #1 seed. That’s just bad, Monday morning QB thinking.
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Maybe the packers couldn’t pull the trigger on a Rodgers trade cause they did not have a competent starter like Geno in the waiting : Another Packer GM failure.
😂😂😂
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I'm no expert but why wouldn't the Packers punt there? Whoops.
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Maybe Watson will play on 2024
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I'm no expert but why wouldn't the Packers punt there? Whoops.
On the 37?
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On the 37?
I thought they were on the 42.
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I thought they were on the 42.
The box score says 38.
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I do enjoy that anytime the Packers fall behind the first play of a drive is more or less a Hail Mary, then a pass behind the line on second down, and then a pass short of the sticks on third down. It’s an awesome offense.
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The box score says 38.
Okay. I guess that's fair.
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Wow. That was an incredible throw under pressure.
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Mark Murphy is retiring in 2025. If this season ends the way it is trending, I wonder if he cleans house to help set up whomever his successor might be. (Although I am reasonably sure he's already in the building.)
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Darnell Savage is pretty bad.
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Toms sucks too
Darnell Savage is pretty bad.
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I can’t wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey’s guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.
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Imagine what Denver would have gave up for Rodgers then….
Lol no. Russ was not near Rodgers. Having more in the tank doesn’t mean anything if the tank is feeding a smaller engine. Russ was already trending down. Denver made a horrid trade and gave him a terrible contract.
No GM is going to trade the reigning MVP who lead their team to the #1 seed. That’s just bad, Monday morning QB thinking.
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Darnell Savage is pretty bad.
One of the worst safeties in the NFL.
Use the eye test or the Pro Football Focus ratings. It’s clear either way.
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I can’t wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey’s guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.
Yep.
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2 1st round picks, 2 nd round picks, a few other picks, and 3 players in trade would have helped that talent deficiency.
But now, all gone.
I can’t wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey’s guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.
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Yep.
aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately
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aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately
No OL depth either.
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aaron Jones is easily one of the best rbs in the league. Some talent exists. Just no wrs unfortunately
So we have good talent at the least important position. You can throw any average guy in at running back and be fine.
2 1st round picks, 2 nd round picks, a few other picks, and 3 players in trade would have helped that talent deficiency.
But now, all gone.
Not with Gutey drafting.
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No OL depth either.
ya the o line is just terrible. Injuries? Seems like Rodgers had been running for his life all year
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Always fun to watch a guy on a losing team endlessly trash-talking even as his team is getting its collective arse whipped.
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I can’t wait to see what this team looks like when Gutey’s guy Love is under center. The lack of talent on this team is astounding.
#BuffaloLite
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Who had the packers covering the spread? I sure did not.
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Packers are looking at hard times. Missed draft classes, a QB who thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and is a terrible leader and a salary cap mess. The defense is all talk and no bite.
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Buffalo was quicker to da ball and hit harder, aina?
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The Packers 2020 Draft class is unbelievable to look back on. You lost in the NFC Championship game, and your decision is to take a backup QB round 1, a backup running back round 2 (letting a solid backup running back walk), a backup tight end round 3, and then traded your 4th rounder to get your backup QB. Taking backups at 2 of the last important positions in football.
Then you give your starting QB $50M/year to stick around anyway.
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Packers 1st round draft since 2019
Rashan Gary- Good pick
Darnell Savage - gets worse and worse, just runs past players instead of tackling
Jordan Love - worthless
Eric Stokes - got benched last night
Quay Walker - got ejected last night
Devonte Wyatt - 3 total tackles
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Packers 1st round draft since 2019
Rashan Gary- Good pick
Darnell Savage - gets worse and worse, just runs past players instead of tackling
Jordan Love - worthless
Eric Stokes - got benched last night
Quay Walker - got ejected last night
Devonte Wyatt - 3 total tackles
Gary can rush the QB but is a liability against the run
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From AR's Instagram today, on Halloween. Blue of Earth is on it.
"Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a Shailene snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adams' fork and Patrick's sting,
Lazard's leg and Cobb's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a Love's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good."
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The Packers 2020 Draft class is unbelievable to look back on. You lost in the NFC Championship game, and your decision is to take a backup QB round 1, a backup running back round 2 (letting a solid backup running back walk), a backup tight end round 3, and then traded your 4th rounder to get your backup QB. Taking backups at 2 of the last important positions in football.
I think this is the problem (philosophy) more than the hit rate on the players themselves. Ted Thompson's hit rate on first rounders wasn't particularly good either. But he just kept drafting for depth to the point where it seemed redundant and drove the fanbase nuts because they wanted to see him draft skill position players. But he refused outside Eddie Lacy and the occasional WR. If you take even one draft off in the search for high end depth, you fall behind.
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I think this is the problem (philosophy) more than the hit rate on the players themselves. Ted Thompson's hit rate on first rounders wasn't particularly good either. But he just kept drafting for depth to the point where it seemed redundant and drove the fanbase nuts because they wanted to see him draft skill position players. But he refused outside Eddie Lacy and the occasional WR. If you take even one draft off in the search for high end depth, you fall behind.
In his early years, he drafted receivers all the time.
2006: Greg Jennings, 2nd round
2007: James Jones, 3rd round
2008: Jordy Nelson, 2nd
2008: Jermichael Finley, 3rd
2011: Randall Cobb, 2nd
2014: Davante Adams, 2nd
Regardless, Thompson was simply brilliant at his job early in his tenure. He clearly fell off near the end, but between 2005 and 2010, I don't think there were many better.
And that's kinda the point. IOW the philosophy is fine IF you pick good players. It seems like Gutey really isn't doing that.
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In his early years, he drafted receivers all the time.
2006: Greg Jennings, 2nd round
2007: James Jones, 3rd round
2008: Jordy Nelson, 2nd
2008: Jermichael Finley, 3rd
2011: Randall Cobb, 2nd
2014: Davante Adams, 2nd
Regardless, Thompson was simply brilliant at his job early in his tenure. He clearly fell off near the end, but between 2005 and 2010, I don't think there were many better.
And that's kinda the point. IOW the philosophy is fine IF you pick good players. It seems like Gutey really isn't doing that.
That, and it doesn't seem the coaching staff is on the same page with the GM. The roster that is put together is one that is built to run the ball on offense and then scheme wide receivers open, and the defense has strong DBs that should be playing man defense. What they're really running is whatever Aaron Rodgers once after the first two drives (which isn't sticking with the run, except when the game was over last night) and play drop zone coverage. It just doesn't make any sense.
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That, and it doesn't seem the coaching staff is on the same page with the GM. The roster that is put together is one that is built to run the ball on offense and then scheme wide receivers open, and the defense has strong DBs that should be playing man defense. What they're really running is whatever Aaron Rodgers once after the first two drives (which isn't sticking with the run, except when the game was over last night) and play drop zone coverage. It just doesn't make any sense.
The coach and GM are terrified of the QB. The offense is a mess because the QB wants to throw it around the yard.
LaFleur chose the DC despite red flags abounding about Joe Barry.
Say what you will about how things ended, but McCarthy demanded accountability early in his tenure from his QBs and got it.
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Speaking of this horrible defense, this is from an article in the Athletic today:
"The Packers start six first-round picks on defense — defensive lineman Kenny Clark, edge rusher Rashan Gary, inside linebacker Quay Walker, cornerback Jaire Alexander, cornerback Eric Stokes and safety Darnell Savage Jr. They also have a 2021 first-team All-Pro inside linebacker in De’Vondre Campbell, a 2021 Pro Bowl alternate cornerback in Rasul Douglas, a sturdy safety in Adrian Amos and an edge rusher in Preston Smith who they’ve given two big-money contracts to.
Green Bay’s defense shouldn’t be this bad. You’d be hard-pressed to find a bigger disparity between individual talent on paper and group performance on the field on any other unit in the NFL.
It’s an indictment on defensive coordinator Joe Barry, more than anything, but also the head coach in Matt LaFleur who hand-picked him and the players who have failed to tackle and cover (see: Savage and Stokes, more than others) far too often."
This is basically what I have been saying all year.
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Speaking of this horrible defense, this is from an article in the Athletic today:
"The Packers start six first-round picks on defense — defensive lineman Kenny Clark, edge rusher Rashan Gary, inside linebacker Quay Walker, cornerback Jaire Alexander, cornerback Eric Stokes and safety Darnell Savage Jr. They also have a 2021 first-team All-Pro inside linebacker in De’Vondre Campbell, a 2021 Pro Bowl alternate cornerback in Rasul Douglas, a sturdy safety in Adrian Amos and an edge rusher in Preston Smith who they’ve given two big-money contracts to.
Green Bay’s defense shouldn’t be this bad. You’d be hard-pressed to find a bigger disparity between individual talent on paper and group performance on the field on any other unit in the NFL.
It’s an indictment on defensive coordinator Joe Barry, more than anything, but also the head coach in Matt LaFleur who hand-picked him and the players who have failed to tackle and cover (see: Savage and Stokes, more than others) far too often."
This is basically what I have been saying all year.
This is entirely different than anything you've said about the defense this year, though. I can't find anything remotely resembling this sentiment.
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This is entirely different than anything you've said about the defense this year, though. I can't find anything remotely resembling this sentiment.
I have said repeatedly that the defense was vastly overrated. That they were terrible against team after team with bad QBs.
That was the gist of the article.
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Stupid Is as Stupid Does
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/01/packers-do-nothing-at-nfls-trade-deadline/
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Neither buyers nor sellers, future does not look bright with status quo Gutey…
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Neither buyers nor sellers, future does not look bright with status quo Gutey…
He’s Captain Smith staring at the iceberg
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He’s Captain Smith staring at the iceberg
Spellbound
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Packers 1st round draft since 2019
Rashan Gary- Good pick
Darnell Savage - gets worse and worse, just runs past players instead of tackling
Jordan Love - worthless
Eric Stokes - got benched last night
Quay Walker - got ejected last night
Devonte Wyatt - 3 total tackles
Gary is an excellent pass rusher, but is a major reason their run defense is so bad. Doesn’t set the edge at all. He’s a one trick pony.
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Gary is an excellent pass rusher, but is a major reason their run defense is so bad. Doesn’t set the edge at all. He’s a one trick pony.
Yup. Teams have been running right at him the last month
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Yup. Teams have been running right at him the last month
Washington finally showed life on offense running the ball to his side, which led to game momentum flipping. His effort to get off blocks was pathetic.
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My guess is low odds this happens .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/06/packers-among-big-group-of-teams-interested-in-wr-odell-beckham-jr/
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Packers win large today.
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Packers win large today.
Don’t forget that we have Lions reject Joe Barry Carroll as our defensive coordinator.
If he can go 0-16 for the Lions, Is there really any limit to how far he can drag down GB?
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Nobody ever goes broke betting against Detroit. You need to watch out for those 3-4 games a year that they show flashes of mediocrity and pull a win out of their chico.
But assume they will find a way to lose and you will be able to afford that tank of premium gas.
Detroit is bringing in receivers today due to injuries that you have never heard of. Hockenson is gone, Swift is eternally injured. GB in a rout.
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Nobody ever goes broke betting against Detroit. You need to watch out for those 3-4 games a year that they show flashes of mediocrity and pull a win out of their chico.
But assume they will find a way to lose and you will be able to afford that tank of premium gas.
Detroit is bringing in receivers today due to injuries that you have never heard of. Hockenson is gone, Swift is eternally injured. GB in a rout.
I’ll hold you to that. We really need a win.
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Not going to do any research to back this up but feel like Rodgers had more tipped passes this year than the rest of his career
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Not going to do any research to back this up but feel like Rodgers had more tipped passes this year than the rest of his career
He threw that one straight into the defenders facemask, then seemed to be mad about it being someone else's fault.
It's not like the guy magically appeared, he was there the entire time, and he threw the ball right into the defender.
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He hit the Lion defender in the helmet. It was nothing the defender did.
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Lol.
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Woof
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Pathetic Packers have 4 tries to get it in at one and then throw an interception on fourth down
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0-600 in their last 600 attempts at the goal line
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The last miscommunication between Rodgers and Watkins highlights some of the problems.
A couple weeks ago, on a play designed to be thrown into the flat with Watkins blocking, Watkins made the correct defensive read, where the receiver should break open downfield because of the defensive set up. Rodger's threw it into the flat, and it was incomplete because Watkins was breaking to the open downfield throw instead of blocking like the original play design.
He took fault, and said he needs to just do his job on the play and block and not ad-lib.
Fast forward to this game. A run was called, Rodgers saw 1v1 coverage on the outside, so figured Watkins would ad-lib, break away from the called run and go to the open flat.
The packers wide receivers are damned if they do, damned if they don't, and are being elected to read Rodgers mind when he hasn't been consistent.
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Maybe they should give their best RB the ball.
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Maybe they should give their best RB the ball.
I do not understand why Jones wasn't on the field even for any of those 1st and goal from the 0.5 yard line.
Even if he doesn't get the ball, they are harder to defend with him on the field.
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AR under threw is eligible tackle. Get it out there and it is an easy 6.
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Do Rodgers and MLF have the under? This would be blatant point shaving in a college game
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Team of losers. Massive personnel changes needed this off-season.
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Team of losers. Massive personnel changes needed this off-season.
Rodgers is missing a lot, it seems like he is just angry and not seeing the game properly/clearly.
The defense makes no sense. Invest in good/great man v man CBs, then play zone only, even against a team where across the board, your CBs will win every matchup.
A QB who does not trust his receivers.
A team who doesn't have a leader, and whose players don't trust the coaching decisions.
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Tank for Wembanyama
Lose out to stick it to Pittsburgh
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It’s not unfathomable to think Green Bay finishes last in the North.
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Anyone here trust Gutey with a top 10 draft pick?
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Another under thrown ball that would/could have been a TD.
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Another under thrown ball that would/could have been a TD.
And two more.
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Is Rodgers going to make the media rounds to emphasize that he needs to get his crap together. Seems to be perfectly ok with publicly shaming everyone else.
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Usually, it is Detroit losing 5 starters in a single game.
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I spoke too soon.
By mutual agreement, finish up playing 8 man?
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Why even have a play clock?
I’ve counted 8 snaps with :00 on the clock. At least 3 should have been called.
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Boy that was a bad idea to go on fourth there.
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Why launch it to the end zone on every throw?
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I am stunned. AR and Watkins are just not in sync. So many injuries and so much ugly football.
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You can’t score 9 points at Detroit. That’s beyond embarrassing.
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Another panic snap with the play clock at :00.
Team is in total disarray.
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Another panic snap with the play clock at :00.
After a timeout no less
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As one who has not actually watched that much AR prior to this game..... he and Watkins are like strangers. All of the talk about young receivers, it is up to AR to work with them. AR under threw receivers all day. The 3 picks in the red zone. 1. Threw sidearm in traffic with everybody bunched. Hit the defender in the helmet. 2. Underthrowing his eligible tackle by 5 yards on a gimmick. Really? 3. Again under threw his receiver. Nice play by the safety.
So many injuries, so few weapons, and AR did not make his receivers better today.
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Time to discuss chit cannin' LaFleur. He clearly duzant have a klue, aina?
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Time to discuss chit cannin' LaFleur. He clearly duzant have a klue, aina?
Gutey should be the first to go. MLF was great his first 3 years. He didn’t suddenly forget how to coach. Gutey has drained the offensive talent in a hurry.
Beyond that, the coaching staff and GM aren’t on the same page at all. The GM built the offense to run the ball and control the clock, while the defense was built to play man defense and get after the quarterback. But the actual schemes are to sling the ball around offensively and the defense to sit back in zone coverage all day.
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Can't argue with your assessment today. They suck major ass and are in a free fall, hey?
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Gutey should be the first to go. MLF was great his first 3 years. He didn’t suddenly forget how to coach. Gutey has drained the offensive talent in a hurry.
Beyond that, the coaching staff and GM aren’t on the same page at all. The GM built the offense to run the ball and control the clock, while the defense was built to play man defense and get after the quarterback. But the actual schemes are to sling the ball around offensively and the defense to sit back in zone coverage all day.
Rodgers keeps checking out of run plays because defenses don’t respect the passing game. For good reason.
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I haven’t watched each game close enough to know - is the formation with AJ Dillon split wide a common one? That was the formation on that last play and seemed a curious choice for fourth and long.
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Until the Packers realize it’s over with 12, the future is bleak in Green Bay. He’s a loser, a terrible leader and was the one who doesn’t think he needed to work with any of the new receivers in the off-season. The team has taken on the identity of the QB. Good luck with that
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I am starting to become curious if Lafleur has been a fraud this whole time.
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I am starting to become curious if Lafleur has been a fraud this whole time.
I don’t think we know. It’s a fair question to ask. His biggest problem is, him and the GM are terrified of the QB
Hiring Joe Barry was a mistake, however
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Dish
Playing in the North hides a lot of weaknesses over the past decade. I am not giving up on MLF, but not sure of his leadership abilities. The QB does whatever he wants and it is getting worse.
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#12 can buy lottsa Ayahuasca wit $3 mil./ game, aina?
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Doc
I think he is a bad teammate on a good team and potential cancer on a bad one. If I read his lips correctly on one drop, there may be some issues in the locker room.
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Well, he certainly has tarnished his legacy. Of course, he can always look at his bank account and smile. Easy now, in hindsight, to say the Pack shoulda have peddled his ass a couple years ago. Someone, Gutey and/or Murphy, made a bad error in judgment and really shackled the roster for years to come. Plus, they don't have qb in waiting. Turning out to be a real clusterfook, hey?
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Well, he certainly has tarnished his legacy. Of course, he can always look at his bank account and smile. Easy now, in hindsight, to say the Pack shoulda have peddled his ass a couple years ago. Someone, Gutey and/or Murphy, made a bad error in judgment and really shackled the roster for years to come. Plus, they don't have qb in waiting. Turning out to be a real clusterfook, hey?
This is more Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense. They finished 13-4 last year and he was the MVP. The year prior 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship Game.
You really think they were going to let him go? C'mon... Gutey has made a lot of mistakes, but continuing with Rodgers wasn't one of them. You ride this train until it derails.
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Oh, I see. Thank you your expert advice, hey?
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Oh, I see. Thank you your expert advice, hey?
Thanks, but it's hard to not be seen as an expert on pretty much any topic when responding to your posts.
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This is more Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense. They finished 13-4 last year and he was the MVP. The year prior 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship Game.
You really think they were going to let him go? C'mon... Gutey has made a lot of mistakes, but continuing with Rodgers wasn't one of them. You ride this train until it derails.
I’ll disagree with this. As soon as he voiced his displeasure with roster construction and said he wanted out, they should have made the move. Instead, they caved and gave him what he wanted. He runs the organization and his contract is terrible.
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Carty with the voice of reason. Hoo knew? This team is a train wreck and needs a mega dose of Ex Lax.
Kolek 'em, hey?
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I’ll disagree with this. As soon as he voiced his displeasure with roster construction and said he wanted out, they should have made the move. Instead, they caved and gave him what he wanted. He runs the organization and his contract is terrible.
You can disagree all you want. You didn’t seem to mind last season though.
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Rico
I would have moved him the day he wanted out. Unlike others, beating the NFC North and little other success did not impress me. 12 lacks leadership skills and it cost him a lot of hardware. No doubt he is a big time talent and I would not argue that, but his arrogance cost him team success, imo.
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As one who has not actually watched that much AR prior to this game..... he and Watkins are like strangers. All of the talk about young receivers, it is up to AR to work with them. AR under threw receivers all day. The 3 picks in the red zone. 1. Threw sidearm in traffic with everybody bunched. Hit the defender in the helmet. 2. Underthrowing his eligible tackle by 5 yards on a gimmick. Really? 3. Again under threw his receiver. Nice play by the safety.
So many injuries, so few weapons, and AR did not make his receivers better today.
It started with the playoff game against SF last year. After being his usual AR self all year, he was nothing short of terrible that game--forced everything to Adams and his accuracy was horrible. Short of a terrible Bears defense making him look OK, he has picked up right where he left off being terrible this year. Can't read the field AT ALL and horrendous accuracy. His deep throws might as well be from a deep snapper position.
It is a bit baffling that he could have lost it in that manner--not a gradually decline, but almost in an instant. It almost seems like the yips.
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You can disagree all you want. You didn’t seem to mind last season though.
Actually, I did. But I’m not a Rodgers fan, so I was biased. He demonstrated a long time ago that he wasn’t a leader and part of the problem, not part of the solution. It isn’t MMQB with me. They should have traded him in spring of last year, period.
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Rico
I would have moved him the day he wanted out. Unlike others, beating the NFC North and little other success did not impress me. 12 lacks leadership skills and it cost him a lot of hardware. No doubt he is a big time talent and I would not argue that, but his arrogance cost him team success, imo.
I agree with this 100%. I know you’ve said you were a Favre fan but the way their careers have mirrored one another is really something. There are differences in how it happened but their egos kept them from getting a crack at another ring
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This is more Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense. They finished 13-4 last year and he was the MVP. The year prior 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship Game.
You really think they were going to let him go? C'mon... Gutey has made a lot of mistakes, but continuing with Rodgers wasn't one of them. You ride this train until it derails.
I don't think it is Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense.
I was a big Rodgers fan, I have him in my top 3 QBs ever, but I thought it was reasonably clear he should be shipped out and they should maximize getting some draft picks for him.
They could have gotten a haul, and best case scenario you get 1-2 years out of Rodgers, but the signs were there that he was dropping off (missing a lot more throws than normal, and not seeing the field, rather forcing to Adams).
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You can disagree all you want. You didn’t seem to mind last season though.
Last year was AR BA - Before Ayahuasca.
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I don't think it is Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense.
I was a big Rodgers fan, I have him in my top 3 QBs ever, but I thought it was reasonably clear he should be shipped out and they should maximize getting some draft picks for him.
They could have gotten a haul, and best case scenario you get 1-2 years out of Rodgers, but the signs were there that he was dropping off (missing a lot more throws than normal, and not seeing the field, rather forcing to Adams).
Ah yes. Another “I knew it all along guy.” 🙄🙄🙄
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https://youtu.be/myepdtO5QDM
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Ah yes. Another “I knew it all along guy.” 🙄🙄🙄
Except some of us were highlighting his missed throws and missed reads, and saying that his demands were ridiculous and hurting the team and that it was time to go, well before he signed his new contract.
The only hope now is to find some help at WR for next year, and hope that Rodgers takes this season personally, and takes an offseason seriously, works with the young receivers, and comes back with a chip on his shoulder.
Sadly, I fear he is too arrogant to see his role in the current problem and will only have a chip against everyone else.
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Meanwhile the Seahawks get another trophy for “9th week” first place and are rolling around in all their Denver draft picks for next year.
Sure glad GBP mgmt did not have the foresight to extract massive payload of picks for Rodgers, much more fun losing to the lowly lions with 3 rosgers awful picks and even worse body language.
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You can disagree all you want. You didn’t seem to mind last season though.
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Meanwhile the Seahawks get an another trophy for “9th week” first place and are rolling around in all their Denver draft picks for next year.
Sure glad GBP mgmt did not have the foresight to extract massive payload of picks for Rodgers, much more fun losing to the lowly lions with 3 rosgers awful picks and even worse body language.
Except some of us were highlighting his missed throws and missed reads, and saying that his demands were ridiculous and hurting the team and that it was time to go, well before he signed his new contract.
The only hope now is to find some help at WR for next year, and hope that Rodgers takes this season personally, and takes an offseason seriously, works with the young receivers, and comes back with a chip on his shoulder.
Sadly, I fear he is too arrogant to see his role in the current problem and will only have a chip against everyone else.
Dishonest Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest.
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This is more Monday morning quarterbacking nonsense. They finished 13-4 last year and he was the MVP. The year prior 13-3 and lost in the NFC Championship Game.
You really think they were going to let him go? C'mon... Gutey has made a lot of mistakes, but continuing with Rodgers wasn't one of them. You ride this train until it derails.
And.....? There now 3-6. They could EASILY be 1-8.
This is past "relax". The offense is absolutely stagnant and rodgers is a massive problem in it.
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Nope - I truly wanted the packers to trade him before the season and get the picks. The signs were all there he is in decline and a poor team leader.
For the record, I would have fired MM after the NFC championship collapse against Seattle and fired Wojo after the Hauser’s quit the team. And was right in those two as well.
Dishonest Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest.
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Thanks, Packers, for giving the Lions a win, as the #1 pick is the prize.
Love,
The Panthers
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And.....? There now 3-6. They could EASILY be 1-8.
This is past "relax". The offense is absolutely stagnant and rodgers is a massive problem in it.
No kidding. I am hardly saying they aren't bad. And most certainly am not saying Rodgers isn't bad.
I am saying that the Packers were never not going to bring the two time MVP quarterback of a 13-4 team back. And all of these people who are claiming that they knew better, are at best engaging in Monday morning quarterback thinking. And pre-season predictions by MANY said that the Packers and Rodgers were in line for a good year.
And Point Warrior continuing to claim that this is anything like the 7-10 Seahawks trading Wilson is laughable. They aren't even remotely similar.
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Nope - I truly wanted the packers to trade him before the season and get the picks. The signs weee all there he is in decline and a poor team leader.
Sure you did. ::)
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Nobody trades the reigning MVP.
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If you replace Rodgers with Lawrence, have your 29th pick, and trade Love for a 3rd you'd still be the best team in the NFC North if your offensive line can hold up until Bakhtiari is back. The Jags would never even consider trading 1 overall for Rodgers, though.
Trade Rodgers for 3 and a number of other picks from the 9ers, take Pitts at 3 and Bateman at 29, and show Rodgers what weapons look like with Adams, MVS, Bateman, and two TEs (Pitts and Tonion) and two RBs (Jones and Dillon).
The first part was in jest because the Jags would never do that, but I did think the Packers should trade Rodgers when he demanded a trade. But it is clear they made the correct decision now that we’ve seen more of Love and with how Rodgers played last year. My thought at the time was you loaded up your defense with picks and free agents, you have 2 good backs, and you traded up to get Love in the first round. If Love isn’t good enough to be a game manager and win games in the NFC North then you’ve already failed as a GM with that pick. Sometimes you have to sleep in the bed you made.
Hopefully they make one last all in year for Rodgers’s last season here next year and then tank just in time to get Arch a couple years from now.
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Rico
I would have moved him the day he wanted out. Unlike others, beating the NFC North and little other success did not impress me. 12 lacks leadership skills and it cost him a lot of hardware. No doubt he is a big time talent and I would not argue that, but his arrogance cost him team success, imo.
So basically this?
https://youtu.be/hNWBsWihYjM
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yep, I wanted the draft pick and player bonanza the Seahawks got. they were going to start over with a new QB sometime in 1, 2 or 3 years, why not do it with maximum value. I was ready to make the call and move on. Now they probably can't even trade him for Geno Smith...
Sure you did. ::)
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Nobody trades the reigning MVP.
It’s not easy to sell high - few do.
Much more common for people to look to sell an asset after it’s basically worthless. That’s where most Packer fans are now.
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T-O-A-S-T
The obese lady has sung, put her music sheets away and started her car for the drive home.
It probably should be Jordan Love time. Let's see what he has!
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It’s not easy to sell high - few do.
Much more common for people to look to sell an asset after it’s basically worthless. That’s where most Packer fans are now.
All time greats don't get traded unless they ask for it and have leverage. The Packers were never trading Rodgers, nor should they have.
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One positive to the losing streak, all those early game comparison graphics of LaFleur to Lombardi have ceased…
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Gary out for the year with a torn ACL.
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One positive to the losing streak, all those early game comparison graphics of LaFleur to Lombardi have ceased…
Coach Lombardi would have puked all over this team.
If Coach Lombardi's team played like the Packers did yesterday, Coach Lombardi probably would have died of a massive heart attack -- on the sidelines! He would have screamed so loud, the folks in the back row would have heard, loud and clear!
The reality is Coach Lombardi's teams wouldn't have played like the Packers did yesterday. I doubt Bart Starr ever had three interceptions in a game -- and certainly not three inside the 25 yard line. The Packer defenses were disciplined and focused in those days. The offense played consistently and well. Yes, Coach Lombardi's teams lost from time to time, but the effort and the execution was there. I didn't see that yesterday nor have I in recent weeks.
One of two things is clear about this Packers team -- either they didn't have the talent the front office thinks it put on the field, or the coaching of the team this year leaves an awful lot to be desired. Neither is complementary and an investigation needs to be undertaken to decide whether to fire the GM or the Head Coach.
Regardless, something is really wrong in Green Bay!
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All time greats don't get traded unless they ask for it and have leverage. The Packers were never trading Rodgers, nor should they have.
How the Packers handled AR is an example of epic fail. They pissed him off when he still had greatness left and mortgaged the franchise for him when his greatness was near the end.
Arguing that you can’t trade stars unless they ask for it is silly. Of course you can. You can argue that knowing what they knew, this off season wasn’t the right time. But 2+ months into the season you can’t argue that the Packers are better off for keeping him.
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How the Packers handled AR is an example of epic fail. They pissed him off when he still had greatness left and mortgaged the franchise for him when his greatness was near the end.
Arguing that you can’t trade stars unless they ask for it is silly. Of course you can. You can argue that knowing what they knew, this off season wasn’t the right time. But 2+ months into the season you can’t argue that the Packers are better off for keeping him.
An epic fail? Wait, you (and others here) actually think the Packers should have traded Aaron Rodgers THIS PAST offseason? LOL!
By FAR the most important position in football is the quarterback position. Aaron Rodgers was coming off back to back MVP seasons! It's not like he was the 12th best quarterback in the NFL. He was the best player in the league and largely responsible for back to back to back 13 win seasons! That is absolutely ludicrous to say that making him the highest paid quarterback for this season and next was an epic fail. An epic fail would have been trading your back to back MVP.
If people said they should've traded Rodgers after a "down" season when they traded up to get his replacement fine. Pretty crazy, but at least there's some sense to that. The "epic fail" was not paying Rodgers. The "epic fail" was putting together a roster with...Allen Lazard? as your #1 pass catcher.
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Amen.
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Ugh...
If Rodgers is set on playing, the Packers can’t cut him in the offseason, because they’d still be on the hook for the $59 million. Maybe Rodgers will decide he’s had enough and retire. But how many people would be willing to walk away from $59 million?
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The only way I see you being able to trade Rodgers last year is if you thought Love was the answer. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, so you try to go all-in with Rodgers since you’re probably in the market for a future QB anyways.
I’m starting to get a bit worried about Lafleur. It just doesn’t seem the team responds well to adversity in big games. They get off to a hot start and one bad play stalls things.
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So many injuries. So few playmakers on offense.
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If you like fancy stats and regular season wins, Rodgers was your guy. If you wanted leadership and a QB to elevate his game in January, he’s not your guy
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An epic fail? Wait, you (and others here) actually think the Packers should have traded Aaron Rodgers THIS PAST offseason? LOL!
By FAR the most important position in football is the quarterback position. Aaron Rodgers was coming off back to back MVP seasons! It's not like he was the 12th best quarterback in the NFL. He was the best player in the league and largely responsible for back to back to back 13 win seasons! That is absolutely ludicrous to say that making him the highest paid quarterback for this season and next was an epic fail. An epic fail would have been trading your back to back MVP.
If people said they should've traded Rodgers after a "down" season when they traded up to get his replacement fine. Pretty crazy, but at least there's some sense to that. The "epic fail" was not paying Rodgers. The "epic fail" was putting together a roster with...Allen Lazard? as your #1 pass catcher.
Yep.
The only way I see you being able to trade Rodgers last year is if you thought Love was the answer. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, so you try to go all-in with Rodgers since you’re probably in the market for a future QB anyways.
Yep.
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Rico
Spot on. More importantly, IMO, the fancy stats were mainly against lower level competition. For an all time great, his record against winning teams is not very impressive. No doubt that Rodgers is a special talent, but it has not carried over to great team success in the playoffs. I have joked for the past few years that Rodgers final regular season game will be like Kobe's last game. He will throw for 900 yards and 8 TD's and think he won the SB. I can him being smug at the presser thinking everyone is dying to hear every word that comes out of his mouth.
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Coach Lombardi would have puked all over this team.
If Coach Lombardi's team played like the Packers did yesterday, Coach Lombardi probably would have died of a massive heart attack -- on the sidelines! He would have screamed so loud, the folks in the back row would have heard, loud and clear!
The reality is Coach Lombardi's teams wouldn't have played like the Packers did yesterday. I doubt Bart Starr ever had three interceptions in a game -- and certainly not three inside the 25 yard line. The Packer defenses were disciplined and focused in those days. The offense played consistently and well. Yes, Coach Lombardi's teams lost from time to time, but the effort and the execution was there. I didn't see that yesterday nor have I in recent weeks.
At least once a year, except for 1961, Bart Starr threw 3 INTs in a game when he was the regular starter. In 1967, he threw nine interceptions and no TD passes the first two games of the season! And that ended with a Super Bowl victory.
Starr threw 138 interceptions in 196 career games. Rodgers has thrown 100 in 222.
Back in the day, quarterbacks threw interceptions all the damn time. George Blanda threw 277 of them, against 236 TDs, and is in the Hall of Fame.
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At least once a year, except for 1961, Bart Starr threw 3 INTs in a game when he was the regular starter. In 1967, he threw nine interceptions and no TD passes the first two games of the season! And that ended with a Super Bowl victory.
Starr threw 138 interceptions in 196 career games. Rodgers has thrown 100 in 222.
Back in the day, quarterbacks threw interceptions all the damn time. George Blanda threw 277 of them, against 236 TDs, and is in the Hall of Fame.
Well duh? Back in the day defenses were allowed to actually play defense.
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At least once a year, except for 1961, Bart Starr threw 3 INTs in a game when he was the regular starter. In 1967, he threw nine interceptions and no TD passes the first two games of the season! And that ended with a Super Bowl victory.
Starr threw 138 interceptions in 196 career games. Rodgers has thrown 100 in 222.
Back in the day, quarterbacks threw interceptions all the damn time. George Blanda threw 277 of them, against 236 TDs, and is in the Hall of Fame.
LOL. I'm sure the dgies of the 1960s would have been talking about how this NEVER happened in Curly Lambeau's day. Curly was rolling over in his grave in September of 67!
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Rico
Spot on. More importantly, IMO, the fancy stats were mainly against lower level competition. For an all time great, his record against winning teams is not very impressive. No doubt that Rodgers is a special talent, but it has not carried over to great team success in the playoffs. I have joked for the past few years that Rodgers final regular season game will be like Kobe's last game. He will throw for 900 yards and 8 TD's and think he won the SB. I can him being smug at the presser thinking everyone is dying to hear every word that comes out of his mouth.
His playoff stats have been fine - his quarterback rating in the playoffs is just a shade under his regular season rating. Yeah, everyone wishes his 12-10 record was better no doubt, but he has had very few Favre-like clunkers.
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At least once a year, except for 1961, Bart Starr threw 3 INTs in a game when he was the regular starter. In 1967, he threw nine interceptions and no TD passes the first two games of the season! And that ended with a Super Bowl victory.
Starr threw 138 interceptions in 196 career games. Rodgers has thrown 100 in 222.
Back in the day, quarterbacks threw interceptions all the damn time. George Blanda threw 277 of them, against 236 TDs, and is in the Hall of Fame.
Wow, you learn something you should have known every day. I never realized Starr had that many interceptions.
That said, Bart Starr on two Super Bowls and five World Championships in his tenure as Packers quarterback. As brilliant as Aaron Rodgers is, he has one Super Bowl to show for it. And, a lot of losses in the playoffs. Lombardi's Packers had one playoff loss and they were 12 yards and probably one play freom making that no playoff losses.
I ultimately agree with Goose, as usual. Rodgers is a great quarterback who can't win the big one. Whether it is because the Packers mismanaged the team around him, the coaches couldn't coach up or the salary cap did the Packers in, I'll leave to others. But, I will conclude that the historical quarterback that is most comparative to Rodgers is Dan Marino down at Miami. He didn't win when it mattered either.
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Wow, you learn something you should have known every day. I never realized Starr had that many interceptions.
That said, Bart Starr on two Super Bowls and five World Championships in his tenure as Packers quarterback. As brilliant as Aaron Rodgers is, he has one Super Bowl to show for it. And, a lot of losses in the playoffs. Lombardi's Packers had one playoff loss and they were 12 yards and probably one play freom making that no playoff losses.
I ultimately agree with Goose, as usual. Rodgers is a great quarterback who can't win the big one. Whether it is because the Packers mismanaged the team around him, the coaches couldn't coach up or the salary cap did the Packers in, I'll leave to others. But, I will conclude that the historical quarterback that is most comparative to Rodgers is Dan Marino down at Miami. He didn't win when it mattered either.
When Rodgers has lost lately in the playoffs, its because the defense gets trucked early. One of the exception being last year's Niners game that was clearly a poor performance. Like the game against Tampa in Lambeau? Hardly an example of that. Clearly outplayed Brady. But the bumf*ck defense that day, including that TD just before halftime, was awful.
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If people said they should've traded Rodgers after a "down" season when they traded up to get his replacement, fine.
Most people buy high and sell low. You’re one of them. You want to buy high on a 38 year old who looked awful in last year’s most important game? Be my guest. How’s it workin’ for you?
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Most people buy high and sell low. You’re one of them. You want to buy high on a 38 year old who looked awful in last year’s most important game? Be my guest. How’s it workin’ for you?
He didn't look "awful" in the playoffs last year. He did look perfectly mediocre and performed less than his MVP regular season. He performed WAY better than Tom Brady did his last game with the Pats though and was five years younger than Brady was at the time.
So Brady and the Pats moved on from one another - and TB won a Super Bowl the next season. And that was supposed to be GB's formula this year. Invest in the defense and let that unit carry them...run the ball...and keep Rodgers efficient.
But it hasn't worked. They have no receivers so defenses are stacking against the run. And the defense is OK, but nowhere near what the Bucs have in Tampa. It was a perfectly logical plan that has been woefully executed, IMO mostly because they don't have the personnel cause Gutey stinks.
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Most people buy high and sell low. You’re one of them. You want to buy high on a 38 year old who looked awful in last year’s most important game? Be my guest. How’s it workin’ for you?
Lol. You try to act like you're the smartest guy in the room, but my god are you dumb. You REALLY thought THIS PAST OFFSEASON was the one for the Packers to move on from Aaron Rodgers?! Haha Jesus.
Oh no, not a sample size of one single game! Clearly the 49ers game must've shown Rodgers didn't have it anymore! Just ignore the previous 17 games where the guy, oh, you know, WON THE MVP!
They were the freaking one seed in the NFC back to back years. You REALLY thought the time to SELL was right after that? Haha talk about revisionist history. They're going to move on to Jordan Love when they have a 2 year championship window? That's the one way to slam that window shut immediately.
You want to sell when a guy has a bad Playoff game? Broncos should've sold John Elway in the 1997 offseason. Can't believe those same Broncos kept Peyton Manning around after his 2013 performance. How stupid is Bill Bellichick to hang onto Tom Brady after his 2008 Super Bowl performance? Get a clue Bill! I could go on and on with the list of players who have had a bad single game and won big the next year. What a hysterically stupid take.
"Epic fail" to keep your back to back MVP who lead you to the one seed in back to back years, after leading you to an NFC Championship game.
What a dumbass.
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Lol. You try to act like you're the smartest guy in the room, but my god are you dumb. You REALLY thought THIS PAST OFFSEASON was the one for the Packers to move on from Aaron Rodgers?! Haha Jesus.
Oh no, not a sample size of one single game! Clearly the 49ers game must've shown Rodgers didn't have it anymore! Just ignore the previous 17 games where the guy, oh, you know, WON THE MVP!
They were the freaking one seed in the NFC back to back years. You REALLY thought the time to SELL was right after that? Haha talk about revisionist history. They're going to move on to Jordan Love when they have a 2 year championship window? That's the one way to slam that window shut immediately.
You want to sell when a guy has a bad Playoff game? Broncos should've sold John Elway in the 1997 offseason. Can't believe those same Broncos kept Peyton Manning around after his 2013 performance. I could go on and on with the list of players who have had a bad single game and won big the next year. What a hysterically stupid take.
"Epic fail" to keep your back to back MVP who lead you to the one seed in back to back years, after leading you to an NFC Championship game.
What a dumbass.
They should have traded him when he said he didn’t want to be in Green Bay anymore. That was their chance. They blew it.
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Let's just hope he doesn't decide to retire after this year, because if he does, the Pack will be buried under Dead Cap money next year.
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Let's just hope he doesn't decide to retire after this year, because if he does, the Pack will be buried under Dead Cap money next year.
They are in salary cap hades anyway. Next year, 5 players will take up about 55% of the cap.
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Looks like others also think it was a big mistake to not trade Rodgers before this season…
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-and-the-packers-made-a-mistake-last-offseason-now-a-trade-or-retirement-has-to-fix-it-030216418.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-and-the-packers-made-a-mistake-last-offseason-now-a-trade-or-retirement-has-to-fix-it-030216418.html)
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Looks like others also think it was a big mistake to not trade Rodgers before this season…
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-and-the-packers-made-a-mistake-last-offseason-now-a-trade-or-retirement-has-to-fix-it-030216418.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-and-the-packers-made-a-mistake-last-offseason-now-a-trade-or-retirement-has-to-fix-it-030216418.html)
Hey at least he honestly admits he is engaging in hindsight.
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Hey at least he honestly admits he is engaging in hindsight.
If the Packers had listened to me, this wouldn’t be a discussion
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Feels like the Amari Rodgers era may be ending soon.
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Feels like the Amari Rodgers era may be ending soon.
Why has it lasted so long.
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Why has it lasted so long.
That’s a great question. Ron Wolf would have cut his azz months ago
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Why has it lasted so long.
He has no business being on an NFL roster. It was clear last year that he should never field punts.
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He has no business being on an NFL roster. It was clear last year that he should never field punts.
So who is making the decision to keep playing him? Gutey or LaFleur?
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Yet they keep trotting him out there. Loser move…
He has no business being on an NFL roster. It was clear last year that he should never field punts.
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LaFleur’s half time magic keeps working….
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Rodgers pass around his water bottle before that last drive of regulation?
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Welcome back Mark McCarthy!
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Lucky no hold call on GB on Dallas possession on Third down.
Sometimes lady luck is nice.
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Going for it on 4th and 4 in OT was very McCarthy’esque…oh, wait…
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R-E-L-A-X?
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Enjoyed the Packer comeback. Was fantastic to see Christian Watson start to realize on his potential .
Aaron Jones was a difference maker and AJ Dillon delivers a lot of power when needed .
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Was at the game today. I have not heard a crowd go from 0 to 60 quite like when they scored the TD on the 4th and 7 - and I'm pretty sure hardly anyone sat the rest of that game. Had they not converted that, they would have been booed off the field and the stands would have been half full.
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Packers play Titans at Lambeau on Thursday . Hopefully, team can sustain momentum from the Cowboy win.
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Packers play Titans at Lambeau on Thursday . Hopefully, team can sustain momentum from the Cowboy win.
Momentum isn’t real
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Momentum isn’t real
Neither are titans
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This Giant fan wants to thank my second favorite team for beating Dallas on Sunday.
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Neither are titans
I mean, mid season Derrick Henry going up against the Packers run defense is real. Especially on a short week.
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I mean, mid season Derrick Henry going up against the Packers run defense is real. Especially on a short week.
Defense is fixed.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/good-bad-and-ugly-from-packers-overtime-win-over-cowboys/
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I mean, mid season Derrick Henry going up against the Packers run defense is real. Especially on a short week.
No, I mean actual titans. Not real.
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Why do I remember the Titans?
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No, I mean actual titans. Not real.
Zeus is gonna be PISSED you're talking sh** about his dad.
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Randall Cobb could be back for Titans game. That would help the Packers cause .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/14/randall-cobb-could-return-to-packers-lineup-this-week/amp/
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Randall Cobb could be back for Titans game. That would help the Packers cause .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/14/randall-cobb-could-return-to-packers-lineup-this-week/amp/
Given Randall’s incredible durability at this point in his career, I’d build a lot of the game plan around him
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Amari Rodgers no longer a Packer.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/15/packers-coach-matt-lafleur-explains-decisions-to-cut-amari-rodgers-kylin-hill/
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One Rodgers down, one to go!
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From The Athletic:
The bonkers Vikings-Bills game was part of Fox’s 1 p.m. window and viewed by most of the county, averaging 16.2 million viewers. Despite the thrills of Minnesota’s victory, it wasn’t the most-watched game this weekend. Not even close — those are the perils of the highlight moments coming late in a broadcast.
Green Bay’s 31-28 overtime victory over visiting Dallas averaged 29.2 million viewers for Fox in the late afternoon window. That game was seen by most of the country except for Arizona and Southern California getting Cardinals-Rams.
At nearly 30 million viewers — the Cowboys and Packers are two of the biggest fanbases in the league — that is the NFL’s largest audience so far this season and is the sort of regular-season viewership normally seen on Thanksgiving. In fact, it beat two of the three Turkey Day games from 2021 but trails the Raiders-Cowboys game on that day (40.2 million average, after a Nielsen adjustment stemming from an undercounting tech error).
Sunday’s game also topped four of the six Wild Card playoff games last season and came close to the Bengals–Titans divisional round game (30.7 million).
Fox’s Sunday afternoon late games are averaging 24.3 million viewers, per Fox’s strategy and analytics chief, Michael Mulvihill. Those games are the most-watched programming in all of U.S. television, the network said.
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Now we finally know why the Green Bay offense has been so bad! It wasn't Adams leaving after all!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11436027/Ayahuasca-warning-Hippy-brew-causes-headaches-vomiting-mental-health-problems.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11436027/Ayahuasca-warning-Hippy-brew-causes-headaches-vomiting-mental-health-problems.html)
In the first major global study of its kind, researchers surveyed more than 10,000 people from more than 50 countries about their experiences with ayahuasca, an ancient South American brew.
They found more than half said they had negative mental health effects while on ayahuaska such as hearing or seeing things that others couldn't.
One in five said they suffered disturbing thoughts or nightmares, hallucinations or felt disconnected.
More than five in 10 people said the mental health issues stuck with them for 'weeks or months'. However, nearly 90 per cent of users considered them 'completely or somewhat part of a positive growth process'.
They found 70 per cent experienced at least one adverse physical effect during or shortly after consuming the drink, the most common being vomiting or nausea, headache and abdominal pain — all of which are common as part of the 'purge' process.
But a small number suffered severe physical harm. Two per cent suffered seizures, one per cent went into respiratory arrest and another one per cent went into cardiac arrest.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-vs-titans-5-things-to-watch-and-a-prediction-for-tnf/
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I’m really not sure what Joe Barry is trying to accomplish on defense.
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Pretty sure da goal iz ta hold Henry ta under 300 rushin' yards and ta give GB's offense a breather, aina?
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I’m really not sure what Joe Barry is trying to accomplish on defense.
The passiveness on third down is infuriating.
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This broadcast is pretty dry. Feels like Herbstreit is calling a bowling match.
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Another pathetic defensive effort.
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This broadcast is pretty dry. Feels like Herbstreit is calling a bowling match.
It’s a pretty dull game.
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I’m really not sure what Joe Barry is trying to accomplish on defense.
After the last 2series, I think it’s obvious.
Ignore the WRs.
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Wouldant shock me if LaFleur get chit canned after this seeson. Dude is clueless like Woj, hey?
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Stunningly bad pass by AR - had Watkins wide open and missed him by 5 feet. Time to punt again.
Edit: Then misses wide-open Lazard on crossing route with about 5:30 left. After turning it over on downs one play later ….
BOO! say the fans.
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Rodgers sucks
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Disappointing loss for The Packers
I guess the Cowboy 🤠 game was a mirage in the desert
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Disappointing loss for The Packers
I guess the Cowboy 🤠 game was a mirage in the desert
QB is trash
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Thoroughly outplayed and thoroughly unprepared on both sides of the ball. Terrible performance all around.
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If they only had all the draft picks of the 1st place Seahawks, the future would look bright…
Thoroughly outplayed and thoroughly unprepared on both sides of the ball. Terrible performance all around.
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If they only had all the draft picks of the 1st place Seahawks, the future would look bright…
Yes. I think you should continue to Monday morning quarterback this. No team would have traded the reigning MVP coming off a 13-4 season. The Packers weren't 7-10 last year like Seattle.
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Wouldant shock me if LaFleur get chit canned after this seeson. Dude is clueless like Woj, hey?
He's 43-17. They could finish 4-13 and it's not happening.
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He's 43-17. They could finish 4-13 and it's not happening.
His QB sucks but the QB thinks he can do all the things he used to.
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I'm guessing that the day they are eliminated from the playoff Rodgers goes on IR after announcing he has had a broken thumb most of the season.
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Den hoo da hell's gonna play qb, hey?
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Den hoo da hell's gonna play qb, hey?
Who cares? 12 is a loser. Cut hiz azz, aina
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Hope those losers beat Philly tho. Helps us& hurts GB’s draft status. Go pack go
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Packers first round draft choice Quay Walker making progress.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/20/packers-film-room-rookie-quay-walker-continues-to-improve-against-titans/
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/11/22/aaron-rodgers-life-after-football-pat-mcafee-show/10760433002/
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He’s already playing like he’s in his after-football life.
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Did I see on the scroll that AR has been playing with a broken thumb?
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Did I see on the scroll that AR has been playing with a broken thumb?
Affirmative. Broken on the last play of the London game
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Helps explain some recent performances. Specifically where his passes did not have the expected velocity and accuracy.
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Well, sh!t we can't put in Love now, the offense might improve
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12 morphing into 4 is complete
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/23/aj-dillon-has-been-another-disappointment-in-packers-disappointing-season/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/23/packers-defense-will-be-stressed-in-all-aspects-by-jalen-hurts-eagles-offense/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/27/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-playing-through-avulsion-fracture-in-right-thumb/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/27/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-playing-through-avulsion-fracture-in-right-thumb/
I’ve seen much worse get healed with a flick of the wand in Harry Potter. His girlfriend must not be a very good witch.
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That was easy.
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Packers need to chit can the entire coaching staff. They suck donkey balls, hey?
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Gutey can kiss my booty, hey?
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Chit, I'm goin' ta bed. Der fookin' awful, aina?
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Yeah kinda think they’ve thrown in the towel. Hopefully Mark Murphy is thinking real hard about next steps.
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Worked out for the Pack but how is that false start missed?
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Yeah kinda think they’ve thrown in the towel. Hopefully Mark Murphy is thinking real hard about next steps.
23 minutes later they make me look dumb.
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23 minutes later they make me look dumb.
I think you were right about the defense.
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This is like arena football.
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Have the packers ever not let a mobile qb set personal highs for rushing yards?
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Have the packers ever not let a mobile qb set personal highs for rushing yards?
They do have a history of that, yes. But Joe Barry is so bad at his job, it’s at an entirely new level. At least other times it’s happened, it’s been over the course of a game.
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Time for a new ST coach?
Two more mistakes already tonight.
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Time for a new ST coach?
Two more mistakes already tonight.
I hope whoever comes after Mason can kick the ball into the end zone.
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Packers need a kicker with some leg strength and accuracy
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Maybe the worst defensive game plan I have ever seen. Truly vintage Joe Barry Carroll.
Kielce has been destroying LBs and safeties all game and JBC still refuses to put a DL over center.
Malpractice at its worst.
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All you need is Love!
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Does Rodgers shut it down after the bye?
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Is this accurate?
https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/status/1564077949242032128?t=LEsLUK5Su2I9emx2I0g0UQ&s=19
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Eagles with 128 more yards rushing than their last two games combined. Fell just 15 short of matching their last 3 games.
#firebarrynow
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I know there’s stuff not to like tonight, but I actually thought the Packers were very resilient tonight. They could have folded and packed it in super early, and I was impressed that they kept fighting and made it a legit game.
Love was throwing darts, but he needs to learn when to run, overall though he looked like a potential dude (short sample size, but WAY better than I’ve ever seen him), which has to be a good development.
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I know there’s stuff not to like tonight, but I actually thought the Packers were very resilient tonight. They could have folded and packed it in super early, and I was impressed that they kept fighting and made it a legit game.
Love was throwing darts, but he needs to learn when to run, overall though he looked like a potential dude (short sample size, but WAY better than I’ve ever seen him), which has to be a good development.
The offense kept fighting.
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Bold call: Rodgers had played his last game as a Packer. #freelove
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Bold call: Rodgers had played his last game as a Packer. #freelove
I don't think it's bold at all.
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Why does the team get penalized of a player decides to retire?
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Why does the team get penalized of a player decides to retire?
He’s owed a lot of back pay.
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He’s owed a lot of back pay.
It’s mostly because his signing bonus is prorated over the course of the contract, but gets accelerated into one year when he is retired, cut or traded.
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Is this accurate?
https://twitter.com/KenIngalls/status/1564077949242032128?t=LEsLUK5Su2I9emx2I0g0UQ&s=19
The future is bleak in Green Bay.
Take the cap hit and pray
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The future is bleak in Green Bay.
Take the cap hit and pray
That’s what they knew was going to happen. IMO need a fresh slate from GM on down.
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That’s what they knew was going to happen. IMO need a fresh slate from GM on down.
I think this is correct
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It’s mostly because his signing bonus is prorated over the course of the contract, but gets accelerated into one year when he is retired, cut or traded.
got it, thanks
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Frankly, I thought Love looked good, considering the circumstance.
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Peddle his ass for Zach Wilson, hey?
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The future is bleak in Green Bay.
Take the cap hit and pray
They knew this was going to happen, but, rightly or wrongly, they mortgaged the future for Aaron.
Sultan is right though, that they need to clean house. Rodgers has covered up the shortcomings of Gutey and LaFluer the last few years.
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They knew this was going to happen, but, rightly or wrongly, they mortgaged the future for Aaron.
Sultan is right though, that they need to clean house. Rodgers has covered up the shortcomings of Gutey and LaFluer the last few years.
LaFluer and Gutey wrongly hitched their wagons to a know-it-all coach killer
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/28/aaron-rodgers-wants-to-play-until-packers-are-mathematically-eliminated/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/11/28/aaron-rodgers-wants-to-play-until-packers-are-mathematically-eliminated/
Well, if GM/Coach Rodgers says so, I guess it has to happen.
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RIP John Hadl
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Not Hadl's fault, but one of the worst trades in NFL history
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I'm surprised the Packers put up with Rogers crap this long. Whether it's injuries or attitude or ??? he just doesn't have it this year. Time to find out if the young guy can cut it.
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https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2022/12/03/aaron-rodgers-celebrates-birthday-at-milwaukee-bucks-los-angeles-lakers-game-sits-by-mallory-edens/69697666007/
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Any chance he's porkin' da duck, hey?
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Any chance he's porkin' da duck, hey?
In the old days they said to abstain from that during the season because “ it weakens the knees “……
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Any chance he's porkin' da duck, hey?
No. They frequently sit together.
Rodgers is a minority owner of the Bucks.
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Eye know all dat. One duzant preclude da udder, aina?
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Time for my weekly comment…
Joe Barry Carroll has the boys ready again. ;D ;D ;D
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Team has checked out. They’ve played one good half of football since London.
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Team has checked out. They’ve played one good half of football since London.
Coaches checked out too. How do you not challenge that play?
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R e l a X, aina?
SKOL VIKINGS!
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Team has checked out. They’ve played one good half of football since London.
Like clockwork. 😂😂😂
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Can at least say there wasn’t a complete waste this season, has been fun watching Watson start to figure things out.
Da bears still suck. They won’t be good enough before the team has to start paying fields a real salary.
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Like clockwork. 😂😂😂
Never fails to happen.
I just posted in the NFL thread, but waited a couple minutes to post because of the jinx.
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#12 Enjoys playing the Bears.
https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1599518301175959553
https://sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-once-again-teases-bears-fans-calls-soldier-field-his-second-home-and-says-he-still-owns-team-223403750.html
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Packers are all time winningest team in NFL History after yesterdays win.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/04/packers-get-win-no-787-pass-bears-for-most-all-time-wins-in-nfl-history/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/06/packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-wont-sacrifice-winning-for-playing-jordan-love/
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Leonhard potential GB defensive coordinator?
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/07/jim-leonhard-to-leave-wisconsin-providing-defensive-coordinator-candidate-for-packers/
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Leonhard potential GB defensive coordinator?
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/07/jim-leonhard-to-leave-wisconsin-providing-defensive-coordinator-candidate-for-packers/
Pass. He might be an upgrade from Barry, but there are plenty of more qualified candidates.
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Bye week helped Rodgers ailments
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/13/aaron-rodgers-thumb-ribs-doing-better/amp/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-chances-of-making-playoffs-with-4-0-finish-keep-improving/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-chances-of-making-playoffs-with-4-0-finish-keep-improving/
This is the scenario I’m hoping for. That way, they’ll convince themselves to “run it back”
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Defense needs to step up for Packers to have a chance to make playoffs
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-defense-must-step-up-to-challenge-down-the-stretch-of-2022/
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Defense needs to step up for Packers to have a chance to make playoffs
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-defense-must-step-up-to-challenge-down-the-stretch-of-2022/
No reason to believe they won’t
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Defense needs to step up for Packers to have a chance to make playoffs
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/16/packers-defense-must-step-up-to-challenge-down-the-stretch-of-2022/
That ship has long since sailed. Second year in a row a totally in over his head, incompetent coordinator has ruined their season. Terrible reflection of LaFleur, Gutekunst, and Murphy they hired disasters Drayton and Barry. Both had no business being hired for the jobs they failed miserably in.
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I am increasingly convinced the problem is the GM and not the coaching staff. Bisaccia is supposed to be one of the better special teams coaches out there, and their special teams has been no better this year. And last year the defense wasn't great...but wasn't awful...and certainly not the reason they were knocked out of the playoffs. (To be clear, I think Barry needs to be replaced.)
There just enough talent throughout the roster. Sure they hit on picks here and there, but the middle of the draft is where you have to consistently find talent to fill out your special teams and that steps up when others are injured. And it just isn't happening.
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I am increasingly convinced the problem is the GM and not the coaching staff. Bisaccia is supposed to be one of the better special teams coaches out there, and their special teams has been no better this year. And last year the defense wasn't great...but wasn't awful...and certainly not the reason they were knocked out of the playoffs. (To be clear, I think Barry needs to be replaced.)
There just enough talent throughout the roster. Sure they hit on picks here and there, but the middle of the draft is where you have to consistently find talent to fill out your special teams and that steps up when others are injured. And it just isn't happening.
Personally, I think there is a major disconnect between the Murphy, Gute, and LaFleur. The defense is loaded with great talent that is going to waste because of defensive scheme. Barry should be canned without a doubt. But MLF seem to have zero ability to evaluate talent. He doesn't have the players to run the system he wants, but continues to run the system despite not having the talent required for it. For the first time in a long time I feel like the Packers aren't drafting smart players. They have a ton of athletes, but none that fit what the schemes are trying to accomplish.
Gute seems to change his draft strategy every year. This year he seemed to only care about RAS scores. Either way, you're exactly right, the mid rounds just feels like he is throwing darts randomly and hoping to get a player that works out. And they're not. He should trade every 3rd rounder considering the value he's been getting.
Anyway, I just don't get the overall team strategy... and I'm not sure they even have one.
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Personally, I think there is a major disconnect between the Murphy, Gute, and LaFleur. The defense is loaded with great talent that is going to waste because of defensive scheme. Barry should be canned without a doubt. But MLF seem to have zero ability to evaluate talent. He doesn't have the players to run the system he wants, but continues to run the system despite not having the talent required for it. For the first time in a long time I feel like the Packers aren't drafting smart players. They have a ton of athletes, but none that fit what the schemes are trying to accomplish.
Gute seems to change his draft strategy every year. This year he seemed to only care about RAS scores. Either way, you're exactly right, the mid rounds just feels like he is throwing darts randomly and hoping to get a player that works out. And they're not. He should trade every 3rd rounder considering the value he's been getting.
Anyway, I just don't get the overall team strategy... and I'm not sure they even have one.
Reading that and I do ponder the notion they should just clean house including the QB
A new President will be interesting max. Will it be an in-house hire or do they go out and get someone with a fresh perspective? Is it a football guy or a Harlan type? Change is coming sooner than later
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Sammy Watkins..... adieu.
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Didant contribute chit anyway, hey?
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Reading that and I do ponder the notion they should just clean house including the QB
A new President will be interesting max. Will it be an in-house hire or do they go out and get someone with a fresh perspective? Is it a football guy or a Harlan type? Change is coming sooner than later
I am about pretty sure the new President will be Ed Policy.
https://www.packers.com/team/front-office-roster/ed-policy
Of course, I could be as wrong about that as I was the next Wisconsin football coach.
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ND grad? Welp. There goes the neighborhood
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ND grad? Welp. There goes the neighborhood
Just like Curly Lambeau.
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I am about pretty sure the new President will be Ed Policy.
https://www.packers.com/team/front-office-roster/ed-policy
Of course, I could be as wrong about that as I was the next Wisconsin football coach.
Son of Carmen Policy of 49ers fame. Has a nice resume
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/19/packers-releasing-wr-sammy-watkins-after-13-catches-in-9-games/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/19/packers-releasing-wr-sammy-watkins-after-13-catches-in-9-games/
Gutey’s Folly
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Good to see to see Packers with a comfortable 3rd quarter lead.Need to keep building on it in 4th
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WTF was Rasul Douglas doing?
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That should’ve been blown dead well before the fumble.
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Playoff Hopes still alive
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-24-rams-12-what-went-right-what-went-wrong-what-it-means/
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Basically the Pack needs to win out and get some (reasonable) help to steal the 7 seed right? If they lose to either Miami or Minnesota I think it means that all three of the Hawks, Lions, and Commies need to lose out.
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Basically the Pack needs to win out and get some (reasonable) help to steal the 7 seed right? If they lose to either Miami or Minnesota I think it means that all three of the Hawks, Lions, and Commies need to lose out.
Hope kneeling on the one yard line on end doesn’t come back to haunt Packers if a playoff tie breaker came to point differential…..
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/20/matt-lafleur-on-kneeldown-at-1-yard-line-theres-a-way-you-handle-winning-in-this-league/
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Hope kneeling on the one yard line on end doesn’t come back to haunt Packers if a playoff tie breaker came to point differential…..
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/20/matt-lafleur-on-kneeldown-at-1-yard-line-theres-a-way-you-handle-winning-in-this-league/
It's 10th on the tiebreaker list, so it won't be a problem.
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It's 10th on the tiebreaker list, so it won't be a problem.
Surprised Coach Rodgers didn’t try to pad his stats there
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Interesting film study on Packers rookie receivers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/21/packers-film-room-romeo-doubs-christian-watson-show-different-skill-sets-vs-rams/
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Defense needs to step up against Tua
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/23/head-coach-matt-lafleur-challenge-facing-tua-tagovailoa/
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Defense needs to step up against Tua
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/23/head-coach-matt-lafleur-challenge-facing-tua-tagovailoa/
Well, they shouldn’t step down
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Dat wood bea Joe Barry, aina?
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Packers playoff hopes improving .Chiefs leading Seattle and Panthers leading Lions.
Packers still need to sweep remaining games .
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Packers playoff hopes improving .Chiefs leading Seattle and Panthers leading Lions.
Packers still need to sweep remaining games .
Outlook getting brighter for Packers if they run the table.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/24/playoff-hopeful-packers-unwrap-perfect-present-on-christmas-eve/
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https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/12/24/sports/sports-breaking/tagovailoa-has-a-tough-task-ahead-of-him-against-rodgers/amp/
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Rodgers -14 yards starting from 6 yard line. Bring in Love.
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Packers have 21 pts easy already if they stopped trying to Rodgers stat pad and used they elite RB duo.
The refusal to run is absolutely mind blowing. As it is, they are fortunate to even have 10
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Rodgers overthrow on easy TD to watson. Bring in Love.
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250 yards and they are barely into the 2nd quarter.
DBs running in circles everywhere except where the WRs are.
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Moronically coached football team
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This fookin' team is total trash. Peddle the whole bunch from Murphy down to the kickin' tee picker upper, aina?
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JaireIslandSZN
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The amount of special teams blunders has been unreal today. And that’s with Nixon’s one return trying to negate it.
The lack of accountability for this team is pretty incredible.
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Not able to watch the game. Based on the posts here I am guessing the packers are down what 4 touchdowns?
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Not able to watch the game. Based on the posts here I am guessing the packers are down what 4 touchdowns?
20-20 tie 3rd quarter
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20-20 tie 3rd quarter
Imagine the gnashing of teeth if they were losing!
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Nice pick Aaron. Bring in Love.
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This game has been like reading an EKG of a heart attack.
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Is Watson made of porcelain?
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Rodgers is so funny.
Gets pissed at Dillon who gets ball back anyways.
But can’t run it again, no way. Ego too strong. Aaron wants the ball.
Throws for -5 instead.
If Pack use their runnings backs they are up 14
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Curious decisions on third down and then to kick the FG to only go up 6.
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Santa Tua.
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Was late to turn the game on. Just decided not worth it based on this thread. Was the loss by 35 or 42?
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I guess they have to play Rodgers next week.
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Tremendous win keeps playoff hopes alive.
On to the Vikings at home.
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As a Dolphins fan, reading back through this thread after the game is really something.
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As a Dolphins fan, reading back through this thread after the game is really something.
I was shocked at how inept Tua was.
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I was shocked at how inept Tua was.
This. I hadn't seen the Dolphins much this season before this game. He looked about as bad as any starting QB I've seen.
Obviously, the numbers say he'd been having a very good season. Heck, there was MVP talk until just a few weeks ago IIRC. So, a one-game aberration?
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This. I hadn't seen the Dolphins much this season before this game. He looked about as bad as any starting QB I've seen.
Obviously, the numbers say he'd been having a very good season. Heck, there was MVP talk until just a few weeks ago IIRC. So, a one-game aberration?
No hes bad when forced to throw something other than slants to two of the most gifted receivers in the league.
Its not ever gonna change.
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No hes bad when forced to throw something other than slants to two of the most gifted receivers in the league.
Its not ever gonna change.
This. He’d been bailed out so many times by Hill and Waddle.
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No hes bad when forced to throw something other than slants to two of the most gifted receivers in the league.
Its not ever gonna change.
I don't wanna bail on the guy, but my pessimism is starting to creep in. Teams are just loading up the middle of the field to clog the slants and crossers, which is coincidentally also some of the easiest coverage to disguise a blitz. Tua has been 100% unable to open up the field horizontally, and his only recourse has been to throw ugly fades to try to stretch the field north-south.
I love to make fun of the early aughts where all that mattered was QB arm strength. That era gave us the Sex Cannon, Kyle Boller getting picked 19th solely because he threw the ball threw the uprights from the 50 yard line on his knees, and a host of other ghosts of Jeff George. It was a beautiful and hilarious time. But I'm getting afraid that Tua is what you get when you can't make all the throws. It sounds ridiculous for a guy leading the league in yds/att by almost a yard, but the eye test says a ton of his deep balls are underthrown, and Hill and Waddle are #3 and #4 in the league among WRs in YAC.
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I don't wanna bail on the guy, but my pessimism is starting to creep in. Teams are just loading up the middle of the field to clog the slants and crossers, which is coincidentally also some of the easiest coverage to disguise a blitz. Tua has been 100% unable to open up the field horizontally, and his only recourse has been to throw ugly fades to try to stretch the field north-south.
I love to make fun of the early aughts where all that mattered was QB arm strength. That era gave us the Sex Cannon, Kyle Boller getting picked 19th solely because he threw the ball threw the uprights from the 50 yard line on his knees, and a host of other ghosts of Jeff George. It was a beautiful and hilarious time. But I'm getting afraid that Tua is what you get when you can't make all the throws. It sounds ridiculous for a guy leading the league in yds/att by almost a yard, but the eye test says a ton of his deep balls are underthrown, and Hill and Waddle are #3 and #4 in the league among WRs in YAC.
Joe Barry is a helluva coordinator
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I love to make fun of the early aughts where all that mattered was QB arm strength. That era gave us the Sex Cannon, Kyle Boller getting picked 19th solely because he threw the ball threw the uprights from the 50 yard line on his knees, and a host of other ghosts of Jeff George. It was a beautiful and hilarious time.
Burrow, I remember Joe Gilliam back in the 70’s, I think, who beat out Terry Bradshaw solely because oh his cannon. And remember, Terry may not have been able to spell cat when spotted the ‘c’ and ‘t’, but he wasn’t some weak armed wimp.
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This.
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Packers make the playoffs.
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Packers make the playoffs.
If they beat Minny.
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Burrow, I remember Joe Gilliam back in the 70’s, I think, who beat out Terry Bradshaw solely because oh his cannon. And remember, Terry may not have been able to spell cat when spotted the ‘c’ and ‘t’, but he wasn’t some weak armed wimp.
Jefferson Street Joe was TSU’s finest. Sad story of what happens when football players and drugs connect.
Gilliam probably was a better quarterback than Bradshaw. But Bradshaw didn’t snort his potential away through his nose. Incredible waste of talent.-
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/good-bad-and-ugly-from-packers-week-16-win-over-dolphins/
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If they beat Minny.
They need more than just doing that.
But talk about fools gold them making the playoffs. Rodgers playing like a horse’s ass in another postseason. Worse, organization figuring things are just fine with a run to get in the playoffs and no need to fire Barry. They’re not going to make any run if they get in. They only keep costing themselves draft position and for what.
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They need more than just doing that.
But talk about fools gold them making the playoffs. Rodgers playing like a horse’s ass in another postseason. Worse, organization figuring things are just fine with a run to get in the playoffs and no need to fire Barry. They’re not going to make any run if they get in. They only keep costing themselves draft position and for what.
Well, IMHO you always want to make the playoffs. There have been several teams that have barely qualified that have won playoff games, and a few that even have gotten to the Super Bowl.
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Well, IMHO you always want to make the playoffs. There have been several teams that have barely qualified that have won playoff games, and a few that even have gotten to the Super Bowl.
True anything can and has happened once you’re in. No argument. Packers have had that happen exactly once in the Rodgers/ Favre years when they won it all in 2010-11 as the 6th seed. Other two SB years in the 90’s they were seeded #1 and #2 in the NFC. They’d be looking at best case 7 seed this year. Unlikely they pass the Giants.
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True anything can and has happened once you’re in. No argument. Packers have had that happen exactly once in the Rodgers/ Favre years when they won it all in 2010-11 as the 6th seed. Other two SB years in the 90’s they were seeded #1 and #2 in the NFC. They’d be looking at best case 7 seed this year. Unlikely they pass the Giants.
Tampa won it all as the 6 seed just a few years ago, too.
Obviously, it's a long shot ... but if you can make the playoffs, you make the playoffs.
As Herm Edwards said: "You play to win the game!"
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Packers beat Minny in Week 16 and in round 1 of playoffs....
If they beat Minny.
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Whats better:
1) Jaire's post game interview: https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1607130803607146503?s=20&t=poPqFkrMOfPhl2I-8HFnuA (https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1607130803607146503?s=20&t=poPqFkrMOfPhl2I-8HFnuA)
2) Jaire's exit mock of Waddle: https://twitter.com/UndefeatedRatio/status/1607125350051450882?s=20&t=poPqFkrMOfPhl2I-8HFnuA (https://twitter.com/UndefeatedRatio/status/1607125350051450882?s=20&t=poPqFkrMOfPhl2I-8HFnuA)
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Wonder whether Tua's concussion had anything to do with those three late game interceptions?
Just asking.
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Wonder whether Tua's concussion had anything to do with those three late game interceptions?
Just asking.
They were some stupid bad throws.
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They were some stupid bad throws.
The concussion makes them seem a lot more explainable. Otherwise, i told my BIL it looked like he was on the take. Like not even close or reasonable. I really wanted a camera on McDaniels presumably losing his mind
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The concussion makes them seem a lot more explainable. Otherwise, i told my BIL it looked like he was on the take. Like not even close or reasonable. I really wanted a camera on McDaniels presumably losing his mind
Part of it is play-calling, too. They had 82 yards on 17 runs. Run the damn ball. I know possessions got limited for them late but run the ball against the Packers
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rodgers getting more comfortable with his guys and the fact that he now participates in group film reviews during the week has got to help...duh? i can't believe the prima donna didn't realize the importance of this of he finally got enough chit from his peeps to get his chit together.
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rodgers getting more comfortable with his guys and the fact that he now participates in group film reviews during the week has got to help...duh? i can't believe the prima donna didn't realize the importance of this of he finally got enough chit from his peeps to get his chit together.
You fell for a false narrative again.
https://journaltimes.com/sports/football/professional/yes-the-packers-wide-receivers-do-meet-with-aaron-rodgers-matt-lafleur-clarifies/article_c5e25231-2fc2-5ba3-ba0c-121e557db51a.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_Journaltimes
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You fell for a false narrative again.
https://journaltimes.com/sports/football/professional/yes-the-packers-wide-receivers-do-meet-with-aaron-rodgers-matt-lafleur-clarifies/article_c5e25231-2fc2-5ba3-ba0c-121e557db51a.html?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_Journaltimes
i don't get the journaltimes. i was listening to the guys commenting during the game and they didn't use the disclaimer that i am aware of that they got their info from this source. "false narrative' ?? i know you wanted to get me in a "gotcha" moment as usual, but my source was the commentators...don't know where they got their info
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i don't get the journaltimes. i was listening to the guys commenting during the game and they didn't use the disclaimer that i am aware of that they got their info from this source. "false narrative' ?? i know you wanted to get me in a "gotcha" moment as usual, but my source was the commentators...don't know where they got their info
Did you read what I posted? LaFleur debunked what the commentators said FIVE days ago.
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Did you read what I posted? LaFleur debunked what the commentators said FIVE days ago.
If it’s not on InfoWars or the Babylon Bee, how do you expect him to know?
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Part of it is play-calling, too. They had 82 yards on 17 runs. Run the damn ball. I know possessions got limited for them late but run the ball against the Packers
Fair but through the mid 3rd, before Tua and his concussion brain went AWOL, Hill had 3 catches for 84 and Waddle had 4 for 124. They were absolutely torching the Packers secondary. And Mosert had a fumble late in the first half and their drive in the 3rd largely stalled due to ineffective running plays. So I can see it both ways
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Part of it is play-calling, too. They had 82 yards on 17 runs. Run the damn ball. I know possessions got limited for them late but run the ball against the Packers
Miami did run the ball 8 times out of 18 plays they had in the second half. That ratio is fine. They had 8 carries for 24 yards. The Packers did a good job of shutting down the run after giving up 58 yards on 10 carries in the first half.
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All valid points.
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Coach discusses Packers Red Zone issues
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/27/packers-offense-still-searching-for-answers-in-red-zone/
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Packers would have been better off losing and getting an impactful draft pick.
Will be hilarious if they squeak into the playoffs and get blown out immediately, which they undoubtedly will, and are stuck being crap again next season.
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Did you read what I posted? LaFleur debunked what the commentators said FIVE days ago.
i only pay about 1/2 attention to you. most of your crap goes in one eye and out the other.
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i only pay about 1/2 attention to you. most of your crap goes in one eye and out the other.
If you want to stay ignorant, that’s your right.
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i only pay about 1/2 attention to you. most of your crap goes in one eye and out the other.
This explains much
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The Athletic gave "up" and "down" grades to various NFL GMs.
Down: Brian Gutekunst, Green Bay Packers
The Packers (7-8) went from three straight 13-win seasons to struggling just to stay around .500 in 2022. A big reason for these struggles is related to the decision to trade top wide receiver Davante Adams to Las Vegas, leaving an aging (and highly paid) Aaron Rodgers without reliable and consistent game-changers. Moves on defense also haven’t translated into improvement for the Packers, who are in danger of missing the playoffs.
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Pack needs to get healthy for Sunday’s Big Game
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/28/packers-vs-vikings-wednesday-injury-report-what-to-know/
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Pack needs to get healthy for Sunday’s Big Game
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/28/packers-vs-vikings-wednesday-injury-report-what-to-know/
Yeah, but at this time of year, that is every team in the NFL.
A lot of success is just avoiding the attrition that a 17 game season brings.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/29/aaron-rodgers-vikings-have-been-better-than-bears-which-makes-our-rivalry-more-intense/amp/
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Not sure whats more cracked.
Alexander giving the best receiver in football extra motivation calling the week 1 torching a fluke
Or Alexander ranking said receiver below Jaylen goddamn Waddle.
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/30/packers-allen-lazard-fined-over-10k-for-taunt-after-huge-block/
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/30/packers-allen-lazard-fined-over-10k-for-taunt-after-huge-block/
Good. The packers set a bad example for the youth
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/30/packers-allen-lazard-fined-over-10k-for-taunt-after-huge-block/
Hah that is so lame. That was the best thing Allen Lazard has done in the NFL. Players count the number of touchdowns and sacks on their fingers and aren’t fined for it.
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Hah that is so lame. That was the best thing Allen Lazard has done in the NFL. Players count the number of touchdowns and sacks on their fingers and aren’t fined for it.
It’s lame that he was fined, but he was pointing in the direction of the players. Not the same thing.
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Packers make wise move by elevating kicker from Practice Squad for kickoffs. He has a stronger leg than Mason Crosby for kickoffs . This will be important against the Vikings.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/31/packers-elevate-k-ramiz-ahmed-rb-tyler-goodson-from-practice-squad-to-gameday-roster-for-week-17/
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Christian Watson game time decision
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1609446071670919169?cxt=HHwWgsC-sZmr89UsAAAA
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Green Bay and Detroit both win today. Winner take all next week at Lambeau. GB wins big and makes the playoffs.
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Green Bay and Detroit both win today. Winner take all next week at Lambeau. GB wins big and makes the playoffs.
Commanders need to lose.
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Browns early 3-0 lead on Commanders . Wentz threw an interception that lead to a field goal for Browns
Go Browns
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Aargh Wentz sneaks for a touchdown right befor the half . Commanders will get possession to start 3rd quarter .
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Cleveland up 17-7 early 4th
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Browns up 24-10
Deshaun Watson making things happen for Browns
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Browns up 24-10
Deshaun Watson making things happen for Browns
Making things happen gets him in legal trouble
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Thanks to Browns win. Packers control their destiny now. Win out and they are in.
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Thanks to Browns win. Packers control their destiny now. Win out and their in .
Packers can’t beat their own ST. Two terrible plays already.
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Thanks to Browns win. Packers control their destiny now. Win out and their in .
They’re
Skol
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Packers can’t beat their own ST. Two terrible plays already.
Aged like milk
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Nixon is a dude.
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Yup, special teams.
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Aged like milk
Let me re-state:
Maybe the Packers’ ST can beat the Packers ST.
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As we have been saying, defense and special teams carrying this team.
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Lol this game has been ridiculous.
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Just an a$$ whipping.
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Special teams!
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I do love how mic'd up the goal posts are now for broadcasts.
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Vikings still suck.
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Green Bay and Detroit both win today. Winner take all next week at Lambeau. GB wins big and makes the playoffs.
Still feeling good about this one. GB beats Detroit and is in.
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Still feeling good about this one. GB beats Detroit and is in.
Detroit is going to the playoffs and they’ll win a game when they get in
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Packers doing a great job of setting up maximum heartbreak next week.
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Jaire Alexander brings so much to the Packer defense . Did a great job today .
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Congrats to Uncle Rico! Rodgers finally gets benched.
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Congrats to Uncle Rico! Rodgers finally gets benched.
If the Packers are serious about winning in the playoffs, it’s a good move
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Detroit is going to the playoffs and they’ll win a game when they get in
If the game was at Ford Field, then maybe. A dome team at Lambeau in January?
A team that has no experience in big games against an experienced team?
Goff in cold weather?
Pack by double digits.
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If the game was at Ford Field, then maybe. A dome team at Lambeau in January?
A team that has no experience in big games against an experienced team?
Goff in cold weather?
Pack by double digits.
My thoughts exactly. I don’t know how many games Detroit has won outside in cold weather in Dec/Jan, but I could probably count them on one finger.
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If the game was at Ford Field, then maybe. A dome team at Lambeau in January?
A team that has no experience in big games against an experienced team?
Goff in cold weather?
Pack by double digits.
Lambeau in January hasn’t had any mystique in decades
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Pack has essentially been in the playoffs the past 4 weeks. Figurin' they'll win, but it'll be a bitch, hey?
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Gotta figure dis game gets flexed ta prime tyme, aina?
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Gotta figure dis game gets flexed ta prime tyme, aina?
Not with Seattle holding the tie breaker over the Lions. If Seattle wins, the Lions would have nothing to play for.
My guess is Jags / Titans.
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Lambeau in January hasn’t had any mystique in decades
The Lions in January have never had any mystique.
Pack by double digits.
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The Lions in January have never had any mystique.
Pack by double digits.
I’m going to start calling you Muggsy
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Going to be a physical brawl next week.
Packers defense had some get up and go today. I think that momentum will carry forward to the Lions game.
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Going to be a physical brawl next week.
Packers defense had some get up and go today. I think that momentum will carry forward to the Lions game.
Momentum isn’t real
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I’m going to start calling you Muggsy
LOL. OK. Make the case why Detroit wins.
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LOL. OK. Make the case why Detroit wins.
They’re better
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They’re better
I actually agree they are better, but they aren’t winning next week at Lambeau.
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They’re better
Perhaps. But they aren't ready to win a win or go home game at Lambeau yet.
You talk about the Lambeau mystique. Part of that is outside in the cold. Detroit played their worst game in two months outside in the cold.
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Not with Seattle holding the tie breaker over the Lions. If Seattle wins, the Lions would have nothing to play for.
My guess is Jags / Titans.
Nope. Jags\Titans scheduled for Saturday.
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Perhaps. But they aren't ready to win a win or go home game at Lambeau yet.
You talk about the Lambeau mystique. Part of that is outside in the cold. Detroit played their worst game in two months outside in the cold.
It’ll be 26 and partly sunny according to the early forecast. The Packers current QB has been pretty mediocre in the cold recently.
Listen, you’re probably right but I think there’s more than a real chance for the Lions to win this game
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Detroit has had a wonderful second half of the season. They spit the bit a week ago in cold weather on the road when they had the opportunity to control their own destiny. I think the air is going to be too cold and the lights too bright this time.
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I don't think the problem will be the cold. The problem will be the playing surface. I think you saw that yesterday with Minnesota.
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It’ll be 26 and partly sunny according to the early forecast. The Packers current QB has been pretty mediocre in the cold recently.
Listen, you’re probably right but I think there’s more than a real chance for the Lions to win this game
The Lions can beat the Packers. While I don't wish that to happen, it is a possibility. GB needs to be prepared. Lions would love to be the spoiler.
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Also, GB controls its own destiny. Detroit needs Seattle to lose, or else beating GB means nothing. Other than knocking GB out of the playoffs.
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Also, GB controls its own destiny. Detroit needs Seattle to lose, or else beating GB means nothing. Other than knocking GB out of the playoffs.
I mean, that ought to be motivation enough. You can’t get in without winning.
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Restore the roar!
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Detroit has had a wonderful second half of the season. They spit the bit a week ago in cold weather on the road when they had the opportunity to control their own destiny. I think the air is going to be too cold and the lights too bright this time.
This is a good time for Detroit fans. They get a Playoff game this week against Green Bay. They also will have 2 high picks in the 1st round to strengthen their defense. Detroit fans should be more optimistic about their future than they have been for many years.
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5 picks in the top 80. And yes, an exceedingly young team gets a taste of the playoff experience this week.
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This is a good time for Detroit fans. They get a Playoff game this week against Green Bay. They also will have 2 high picks in the 1st round to strengthen their defense. Detroit fans should be more optimistic about their future than they have been for many years.
I loved Campbell in Hard Knocks. Beyond being likeable, he seemed a really good fit in terms of motivation, accountability, and belief for not only an organization like the Lions, but the team they had assembled. And that seems to be true
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/02/packers-to-host-lions-on-sunday-night-football-in-week-18/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/03/packers-sign-2-players-including-k-matt-ammendola-to-practice-squad/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/03/regular-season-finale-between-packers-and-lions-actually-looks-like-heavyweight-bout/
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Supposedly Rodgers is dating Mallory Edens. First thought is “it’s about time.” Second is, I hope his ex doesn’t curse the Packers this weekend.
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Supposedly Rodgers is dating Mallory Edens. First thought is “it’s about time.” Second is, I hope his ex doesn’t curse the Packers this weekend.
Reeks of yet another PR play for ol A-A-ron
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Supposedly Rodgers is dating Mallory Edens. First thought is “it’s about time.” Second is, I hope his ex doesn’t curse the Packers this weekend.
Probably would be the most 'normal' person he has dated.
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Supposedly Rodgers is dating Mallory Edens. First thought is “it’s about time.” Second is, I hope his ex doesn’t curse the Packers this weekend.
Well, not that I thought they’d win it this year, but the Bucks definitely don’t have a chance now
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Princeton grad is smarter than #12. But, then again she's 13 years his junior. That keeps ya young and the juices flowin'. Pack in 6, aina?
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Probably would be the most 'normal' person he has dated.
Do you know her?
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Do you know her?
Considering he dated a racecar driver, an actress, and a witch most recently, I'm not sure that I have to.
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Princeton grad is smarter than #12. But, then again she's 13 years his junior. That keeps ya young and the juices flowin'. Pack in 6, aina?
He chokes worse when he’s dating
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Considering he dated a racecar driver, an actress, and a witch most recently, I'm not sure that I have to.
You made a statement without any evidence.
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You made a statement without any evidence.
He said "probably". Don't think opining on AR's girlfriend's is a court of law matter, honestly.
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He said "probably". Don't think opining on AR's girlfriend's is a court of law matter, honestly.
I like to make fun of Arod as much as the next guy - as long as that guy isn't Rico - but sometimes it gets pretty silly.
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Some good thumb nail facts in this article.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/07/green-bay-packers-vs-detroit-lions-week-18-game-preview/
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Considering he dated a racecar driver, an actress, and a witch most recently, I'm not sure that I have to.
Now add heiress
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Good for Aaron. Like everyone else, he deserves happiness.
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Princeton grad is smarter than #12. But, then again she's 13 years his junior. That keeps ya young and the juices flowin'. Pack in 6, aina?
The Duck and #12 Confirmed per this report.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-dating-mallory-edens-daughter-bucks-owner-report
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Wooof! I guess she’s loaded so there’s that.
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Lions say Rodgers disrespecting them.
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2023/01/deshon-elliott-bashes-aaron-rodgers-i-dont-like-none-of-that-expletive.html?outputType=amp
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Well, wen ya got a 26 yo billionaire on ur arm, ya kan sey anythin', aina?
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Lions say Rodgers disrespecting them.
https://www.mlive.com/lions/2023/01/deshon-elliott-bashes-aaron-rodgers-i-dont-like-none-of-that-expletive.html?outputType=amp
LOL...OK.
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There was a version of that out last Monday. I posted it.
To be fair, prior to the last two months, what had the Lions done to force him to respect them.
I still think GB by double digits.
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I like to make fun of Arod as much as the next guy - as long as that guy isn't Rico - but sometimes it gets pretty silly.
Just walk away.
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Watching ESPN Gameday, so which Packer pissed in Rex Ryan's Cheerios?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/08/packers-to-honor-damar-hamlin-with-subtle-change-to-lambeau-field/
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BTW, part of my reason for expecting a
big win by the Packers is that I expect Seattle to win and Detroit to have nothing to play for.
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BTW, part of my reason for expecting a
big win by the Packers is that I expect Seattle to win and Detroit to have nothing to play for.
Lions Coach will have his squad fired up no matter what happens . Lions have a promising future and winning this game does a lot for them playoffs or not
This article talks about some keys to the game
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/5-keys-to-packers-beating-lions-in-regular-season-finale/
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BTW, part of my reason for expecting a
big win by the Packers is that I expect Seattle to win and Detroit to have nothing to play for.
Step 1.
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Looks like 25 degrees at Game time
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Looks like 25 degrees at Game time
Not good. It was that cold against San Francisco
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Pack needs to score a TD on an opportunity like that
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Good play call…
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QB sneak was there.
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QB sneak was there.
I agree with this analysis
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Need to go north, not east or west.
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Lots of deception going on
Just try some straight up plays
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Hutchinson is legit
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Has been all year.
GB, run the ball, play action, bootleg, patience.
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Fix is in. Can’t believe people gamble on this sport
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Two brutal plays by savage in a row.
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Fix is in. Can’t believe people gamble on this sport
https://mobile.twitter.com/Justin_Rogers/status/1612269365709127681?cxt=HHwWgoCylcWc998sAAAA
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Lions are feeding off Rodgers cockiness
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Every team playing for the last playoff berths in each conference are garbage
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Did the packers put their hands in ice baths pregame?
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Lions are feeding off Rodgers cockiness
What?
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Collinsworth praising Barry was something.
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What in the hell?
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That was really odd.
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GB is too stupid to be in Playoffs.
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That kick needed the extra 15 yards too.
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The only thing I can think of is that he thought a time out had been called.
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This, they are so dumb. It may be doing a favor to lose to not have to go to SF and show more stupidity...
GB is too stupid to be in Playoffs.
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The only thing I can think of is that he thought a time out had been called.
Even so, what in the hell would possess you to do that?
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Even so, what in the hell would possess you to do that?
I think he didn’t want them to get a practice kick. I’m not sure him grabbing the ball was the penalty. I think he shoved someone afterwards.
But yeah, it was stupid as hell.
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Even so, what in the hell would possess you to do that?
Because he lost his mind. It was just stupid.
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QUIT. THROWING. KNEE-HIGH. PASSES.
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QUIT. THROWING. KNEE-HIGH. PASSES.
I agree with this analysis
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Absolutely brutal. Reminds me of the Niner playoff game last year.
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Packers need to put points on the board this next series . Lions are getting hot and could pull away.
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Absolutely brutal. Reminds me of the Niner playoff game last year.
I feel like Rodgers has to keep talk about how excited he is to play in the cold in order to convince himself that he likes it. He’s looked pretty bad in cold weather games for a couple of years now.
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Too much dancing from Nixon tonight. His returning success has come from running upfield.
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Mike Tirico is having a rough night.
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I feel like Rodgers has to keep talk about how excited he is to play in the cold in order to convince himself that he likes it. He’s looked pretty bad in cold weather games for a couple of years now.
He’s been really bad the past two years. 2019 against Seattle, 2020 against LAR and Tampa he was very good.
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Walker absolutely should be ejected.
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Walker absolutely should be ejected.
See ya.
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Stupid!!!!
Again!!!!
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I’ve never seen someone push a plain clothes sideline member before. Quay has managed to do that twice this season. Unreal
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Wow.
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Just so undisciplined.
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Losing composure and becoming unlikeable.
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Just so undisciplined.
That’s on the coach. We’ve seen it over and over.
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Reminds me of a Forrest Gregg team.
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Of all weeks to shove an athletic trainer, and two Packer defenders actually did, that’s really incredible how stupid that is.
Walker will surely be suspended as well.
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What's worse, the stupidity of the players, the absolute garbage offense in the red zone, or defense playing pretty well but giving up huge plays....
All season long...
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Wow #7 is an out right punk with that move .
Packers have to score a TD on this drive or their season is over .
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Oh...boy.
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game on the line and Rodgers folds like a cheap suit...
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Time to blow this up. The entire thing. GM on down.
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Need to be some changes this off-season.
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Reminds me of a Forrest Gregg team.
Great call.
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Deja vus all over again
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Time to blow this up. The entire thing. GM on down.
That’s harsh on LaFleur.
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Very impressed with how hard and well the Lions are playing.
They had to be crushed by what happened in the Seattle game, and yet they are playing this game like it’s the Super Bowl.
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That’s harsh on LaFleur.
He’s fine. Hardly irreplaceable.
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That was an awesome playcall.
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Seriously nothing about this team looks well coached. For the third season in a row the chronic problems that plagued their play were just not addressed.
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Might be the last time in a while you can say this. But if you lose to the Lions twice in a season, you don't deserve to make the playoffs.
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I think the Lions got a good one in Campbell.
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This game is a microcosm of the whole season:
1. mind numbing stupid plays
2. horrible red zone execution
3. defense playing well pretty well but giving up huge plays
4. Rodgers not executing in the 4th qtr
just missing a special teams blunder...
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Wow. Gutsy call there.
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He’s fine. Hardly irreplaceable.
Everything should be on the table. GM, HC, ARod. Everything.
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Da Bears.
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I was wrong about this game. The Lions showed up better than I expected.
I am stunned by the stupidity of those two plays by Green Bay. I am stunned at the play calling by GB.
Congratulations, Seattle.
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Wow. Gutsy call there.
Not really. Packers had no chance to go 85 yards with no timeouts.
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This game was a microcosm of the entire season.
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I think the Lions got a good one in Campbell.
Yep. I was wrong about that.
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Not really. Packers had no chance to go 85 yards with no timeouts.
I was talking about the previous play with the lateral.
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Got to believe Rodgers is done. Looks and sounds like a guy ready to retire.
Packers in for a world of a hurt when it happens, because of the absurd contract.
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I was talking about the previous play with the lateral.
Oh that one. Yep. Good call.
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Rodgers learning from Favre on how to milk it.
That would be an extra kick in the gut for the Packers. Restructure the deal to just have him retire.
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I would like MLF to come back and have one season with Love. I’m ready for Rodgers to move on. BG, don’t care either way.
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I am so dumbfounded by the Packers I can’t even rub it in about the Seahawks getting to the playoffs with Geno Smith.
If anything, the Lions should be in the playoffs.
I was wrong about this game. The Lions showed up better than I expected.
I am stunned by the stupidity of those two plays by Green Bay. I am stunned at the play calling by GB.
Congratulations, Seattle.
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So is Rodgers' contract a club option? I thought he signed a 4 yr deal?
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I was talking about the previous play with the lateral.
You get to play a lot more gutsy with nothing on the line
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So is Rodgers' contract a club option? I thought he signed a 4 yr deal?
If he retires, the Packers are hit with a $40.3M dead cap charge.
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Gutey being gone is what is needed. Keep or leave MLF, but when you’re changing GMs just bring in someone he wants to work with.
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If he retires, the Packers are hit with a $40.3M dead cap charge.
He looks like he's on his last legs.
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He looks like he's on his last legs.
He hasn't exactly went out of his way to stay in shape, nor work with new receivers when they come in...unless you call doing ayahuasca getting in game shape.
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It should be time for Rodgers to go (outside of the elephant in the room that is his contract).
Rodgers finishes 29 out of 32 in yards per attempt, his second highest interception total (highest interception percentage though in his career). Some value yardage stats more than others, and if that matters to you, he hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in 20 straight games.
Sometimes it’s just time, and it’s time.
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Carr for Rodgers.
Who says no?
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Carr for Rodgers.
Who says no?
Gladly.
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That Jamal Williams interview is an instant classic. In the span of 60 seconds, he went from crying about his late great-grandfather to talking smack about pundits who picked the Packers.
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That Jamal Williams interview is an instant classic. In the span of 60 seconds, he went from crying about his late great-grandfather to talking smack about pundits who picked the Packers.
Jamal is a treasure.
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You get to play a lot more gutsy with nothing on the line
Absolutely.
Ben Johnson is going to be the trendy hot young coordinator name this offseason.
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Peddle da hole rotten bunch, aina?
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https://twitter.com/pardonmytake/status/1612304708806352901?s=46&t=OCJZ1y76TCBbyz-i8PWpBA
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Aaron Rodgers didn't look like Aaron Rodgers this season because of his thumb injury. It reminded me an awful lot of the Ray Rhodes year with Brett Favre. Favre looked like crap and Rhodes got fired!
The thumb injury severely limited Rodgers' effectiveness down the field. Defenses knew that and dared him to throw deep. The catch by Watson was a blind pig and acorn situation, as was, I thought, the PI early in the game. If he's healthy next year, I'd bring him back. With a year under Watson's and Doub's belt, the offense could be really good. The running game is solid and the offensive line also is pretty good.
The defense is another story. It's inconsistent ands fails to adjust to changes in the offense. Plus, they were just on the field too long last night.
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Aaron Rodgers didn't look like Aaron Rodgers this season because of his thumb injury. It reminded me an awful lot of the Ray Rhodes year with Brett Favre. Favre looked like crap and Rhodes got fired!
Aaron Rodgers didn't look like Aaron Rodgers because he is old. He is ten years older than Favre was under Rhodes.
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Aaron Rodgers didn't look like Aaron Rodgers this season because of his thumb injury. It reminded me an awful lot of the Ray Rhodes year with Brett Favre. Favre looked like crap and Rhodes got fired!
The thumb injury severely limited Rodgers' effectiveness down the field. Defenses knew that and dared him to throw deep. The catch by Watson was a blind pig and acorn situation, as was, I thought, the PI early in the game. If he's healthy next year, I'd bring him back. With a year under Watson's and Doub's belt, the offense could be really good. The running game is solid and the offensive line also is pretty good.
The defense is another story. It's inconsistent ands fails to adjust to changes in the offense. Plus, they were just on the field too long last night.
They don’t have much choice since he played the organization like a fiddle and crippled their ability to do anything
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They don’t have much choice since he played the organization like a fiddle and crippled their ability to do anything
Yup. If the Packers and Rodgers had this type of year last year, I think Jordan Love is the QB this year and Packers are in better cap position. They gambled on Rodgers and looks like it’s a loss. Although, I can’t say I would have made a different decision.
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Just looking at their cap situation, this was all set up for a two year window. If Rodgers retires, they are going to have to make a bunch of moves to get under the cap, but releasing or trading him don't look like options at all. So IMO if he wants to play next year, I don't see much reason to think it won't be in Green Bay.
The cap situation clears up considerably in 2024.
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I'd chit can the coachin' staff. Playas are undisciplined and/or scored -2 on da Wonderlic. Either wey MLF is too milk toast ta bea hed koach. Ya kneed a kick ass mf'er, aina?
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Quay is the first player in 15 years to get ejected twice in a season so that’s pretty cool!
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Just looking at their cap situation, this was all set up for a two year window. If Rodgers retires, they are going to have to make a bunch of moves to get under the cap, but releasing or trading him don't look like options at all. So IMO if he wants to play next year, I don't see much reason to think it won't be in Green Bay.
The cap situation clears up considerably in 2024.
I see 2024 as a problem for them, based on whether or not they pick up Love’s fifth year option this offseason.
If they pick it up, and release Rodgers after 2023, their QB allotment on their 2024 cap will be at least close to $50 million (Rodgers dead cap, Love $20 million, and whatever backups). Cap will go up, so I’m not saying it’s dire, but it’s not perfect.
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Quay is the first player in 15 years to get ejected twice in a season so that’s pretty cool!
And both for hitting team personnel, not even within context of game play.... that's special...
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It's laughable that any Packers fan would want MLF brought back for another year of this crap.
Lions are in far better shape with Campbell. Give me him any day of the week over a metrosexual who waxes his eyebrows and doesn't instill any discipline in his team. The guy who was heralded as an offensive genius has one of the most boring offenses in all of the NFL. It's no wonder teams have no problems stopping them in the red zone.
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Packers need a redo starting at the top. New President , GM and Head Coach.
There is some talent on the Packers but they need to be much better organized. The play calling last night was atrocious .
Lions are the team of the future in the North now. They have a serviceable quarterback and have the Rams first round choices the next two drafts in addition to their own . This years Rams pick is going to be a high one so they can pick up another immediate impact Player at a position of need
Vikings have their act reasonably together. So it leaves Packers and Bears to bring up the rear.
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The President will be leaving in a couple of years as Murphy has already announced his 2025 retirement.
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Lions are the team of the future in the North now.
Hey look! A brand new sentence
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Update on #12 and The Duck
https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/aaron-rodgers-mallory-edens-dating-buzz-intensifies/amp/
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Joe Barry will be back next year.
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Joe Barry will be back next year.
I doubt Barry is a good DC but they’ve got a lot of idiots on that defense
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Joe Barry will be back next year.
Being overly loyal might be Lafleur’s fatal flaw.
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As a Lions fan, it’s great to see the opinions from outside of Detroit. Campbell and GM Brad Holmes have done a great job in changing a culture that has been been perhaps the worst in all of professional sports. Next year will be when they show if it’s real or another fake out. But the division should be wide open.
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Anyone else have a flashback to the MU-Providence game when the brother came out on the court during the game when watching Rasul Douglas walking along the line of scrimmage to touch the ball? Both were surreal. Stupid, but surreal.
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Anyone else have a flashback to the MU-Providence game when the brother came out on the court during the game when watching Rasul Douglas walking along the line of scrimmage to touch the ball? Both were surreal. Stupid, but surreal.
Yes.
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Anyone else have a flashback to the MU-Providence game when the brother came out on the court during the game when watching Rasul Douglas walking along the line of scrimmage to touch the ball? Both were surreal. Stupid, but surreal.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-rasul-douglas-explains-why-he-was-trying-to-snatch-ball-from-lions-long-snapper/amp/
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I thought a time out had been called. It almost makes sense.
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As a Lions fan, it’s great to see the opinions from outside of Detroit. Campbell and GM Brad Holmes have done a great job in changing a culture that has been been perhaps the worst in all of professional sports. Next year will be when they show if it’s real or another fake out. But the division should be wide open.
"Culture" is such a ridiculous term used in sports (like with MU) but fortunes have truly changed in Detroit, thanks to an absolutely outstanding head coach. Dan Campbell is the anti-Matt Lafleur.
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My mom sent me a picture of Aaron Jones at the game. I know he goes to a lot of Bucks games when he can, but cool he came down for an MU game right after the season ended and he could be anywhere he wanted for the first time in a while.
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He was right in front of us, he was holding a cute little girl I assume was his daughter.
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Saw a Tweet that he has a cousin that plays at UCONN.
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Saw a Tweet that he has a cousin that plays at UCONN.
On the Packers bye week, he was at the UConn/LIU game in Storrs (I may have been watching/betting that game), and as you mentioned, his cousin is on UConn.
Jones is easy dude to root for, your point is totally valid though, he could have been in Cabo right now, and he was at this game. Ton of respect for him.
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On the Packers bye week, he was at the UConn/LIU game in Storrs (I may have been watching/betting that game), and as you mentioned, his cousin is on UConn.
Jones is easy dude to root for, your point is totally valid though, he could have been in Cabo right now, and he was at this game. Ton of respect for him.
Yeah he was the GBP Payton Man of the Year nominee the last two years. He's a great person.
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Saw a Tweet that he has a cousin that plays at UCONN.
Newton
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Packers not ready to move on from Rodgers..
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/qb-aaron-rodgers-will-take-his-time-on-return-decision-packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-says
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Packers not ready to move on from Rodgers..
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/qb-aaron-rodgers-will-take-his-time-on-return-decision-packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-says
Good news for the NFC North teams
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Packers not ready to move on from Rodgers..
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/qb-aaron-rodgers-will-take-his-time-on-return-decision-packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-says
Do the Packers have another realistic option?
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Do the Packers have another realistic option?
I don’t think so. It’s pretty much he retires or the Packers take a ridiculous cap hit trading him.
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Yep. The only way they get rid of him is through his retirement.
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Yep. The only way they get rid of him is through his retirement.
Keep him but tank for Caleb Williams
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Dey don't have know replacement on der roster ether doe, hey?
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Dey don't have know replacement on der roster ether doe, hey?
Put Bakhtiari at QB and tank
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I don’t think so. It’s pretty much he retires or the Packers take a ridiculous cap hit trading him.
His retiring is not a get out of salary cap hell free card. Cap hit is 40 million if he retires.
I’d be shocked if he walked away from a guaranteed 59 million. That just doesn’t happen.
They’re in an awful situation with him.
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NFL Network Analysts saying no way Rodgers retires
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/nfl-network-shoots-down-aaron-rodgers-retirement-conversation/
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NFL Network Analysts saying no way Rodgers retires
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/nfl-network-shoots-down-aaron-rodgers-retirement-conversation/
That was one of the worst things I’ve ever read
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Jamaal Williams fined more for his touchdown celebration than Quay Walker was for pushing a member of the Lions medical staff.
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His retiring is not a get out of salary cap hell free card. Cap hit is 40 million if he retires.
I’d be shocked if he walked away from a guaranteed 59 million. That just doesn’t happen.
They’re in an awful situation with him.
Agreed. I was just stating the only real way he wouldn’t be the Packers quarterback next year. I don’t see any way the Packers make the choice to get rid of him.
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Agreed. I was just stating the only real way he wouldn’t be the Packers quarterback next year. I don’t see any way the Packers make the choice to get rid of him.
I think a trade is a real possibility. Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday. They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return. They want him to play now.
Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself. But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room. How many teams could do that?
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Jamaal Williams fined more for his touchdown celebration than Quay Walker was for pushing a member of the Lions medical staff.
That is ridiculous.
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I think a trade is a real possibility. Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday. They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return. They want him to play now.
Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself. But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room. How many teams could do that?
His dead cap next year is $99 million. I mean, I would never say never, but that is a ridiculous figure.
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I think a trade is a real possibility. Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday. They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return. They want him to play now.
Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself. But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room. How many teams could do that?
I think they drafted him with the intention of moving on from Rodgers in the next year or two. Then Rodgers was MVP and they went to the NFCC multiple times. I think Love’s draft position is irrelevant now.
I think if money wasn’t a factor, they’d move to Love now. However, Rodgers’ contract just doesn’t allow that.
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Put Bakhtiari at QB and tank
Bak running the wildcat would be something. Also probably end up with a better QB rating than Fields.
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I think they drafted him with the intention of moving on from Rodgers in the next year or two. Then Rodgers was MVP and they went to the NFCC multiple times. I think Love’s draft position is irrelevant now.
I think if money wasn’t a factor, they’d move to Love now. However, Rodgers’ contract just doesn’t allow that.
No team, especially the Packers, are ok with a wasted first round pick by never giving the guy a chance to succeed or fail or something in between. Gutekunst went very bold moving up and selecting Love. That pick will forever be tied to him. He’s not about to throw all that away on a guy who keeps failing over and over when it matters most.
So I think everything that goes into the investment of Love in the first place is highly relevant. Whether they can make it work to move on from Rodgers, we’ll see. But a trade is more realistic than hoping he’ll retire. And don’t underestimate what teams will do for a first ballot HOF who’s just one year removed from back to back MVP’s.
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Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?
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Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?
That isn’t the cap hit in a trade scenario unless they exercise an option bonus pre trade to drop his ‘23 cap number. If they plan to try and trade him, no way is that option exercised of course. And they have all the way from beginning of league year until the day before their first regular season game next year to pick up the option or not. More than enough time to try and trade him and if that fails, pick up the option for the benefit of the ‘23 cap.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-how-aaron-rodgers-future-decision-affects-the-packers-bottom-line/amp/
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I think a trade is a real possibility. Just read between the lines of Gutekunst’s remarks yesterday. They didn’t move up and draft Love in round 1 to let him rot on the bench until he leaves as FA with no return. They want him to play now.
Lots of teams I’m sure would be interested who haven’t been let down by him so often and hope he’ll redeem himself. But his contract is an enormous challenge to a trade. Cap hit would be huge of course, then the team taking him would need to have or make a ton of cap room. How many teams could do that?
The Bears could.
How many picks would GB give up to dump that contact?
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Tell me how you manage the $99 million cap hit?
You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.
If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.
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You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.
If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.
No team trading for him would not exercise the option to lower his ‘23 cap number. So then the cap hit becomes 15.79M for his new team. Not easy for many teams, but certainly doable for others. Especially since you can get creative with clearing cap space with their other players.
Whether it’s a $40M or $20M cap hit to the Packers for ‘23 is whether they trade him before June 2 or June 2 and after. Problem is teams want their QB situation for the coming year addressed well before that date. So pretty likely a $40M cap hit to Packers by trading him.
Other major caveat to a trade is they have to find a team acceptable to Rodgers or he can just walk away and retire. That’s probably the only way he walks away from all that guaranteed ‘23 money - team he has no interest in playing for.
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That isn’t the cap hit in a trade scenario unless they exercise an option bonus pre trade to drop his ‘23 cap number. If they plan to try and trade him, no way is that option exercised of course. And they have all the way from beginning of league year until the day before their first regular season game next year to pick up the option or not. More than enough time to try and trade him and if that fails, pick up the option for the benefit of the ‘23 cap.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-how-aaron-rodgers-future-decision-affects-the-packers-bottom-line/amp/
You either cut or trade him after June 1st. Then the hit is only 30-32M depending on whether he is cut or traded.
If he's traded, the team trading him either will take a $59M cap hit, or if they exercise the option something like only $17M.
Thanks to you both.
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Maybe the Panthers would take Rodgers if the Packers throw in a couple of high draft picks.
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420
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I didn’t realize it dropped so much after June 1. The bummer there is more uncertainty on draft compensation. $30M isn’t great, but having your QB on a rookie contract makes it a little more palatable.
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It appears, practically, the Packers and Rogers are stuck with each other. It's not a terrible thing for both.
Roger's age, play and salary essentially make him untradable. Although maybe the NFL allows the Packers to keep paying him part of his salary, I just don't know the NFL rules that well.
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420
Nope. Not high enough!
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It appears, practically, the Packers and Rogers are stuck with each other. It's not a terrible thing for both.
Roger's age, play and salary essentially make him untradable. Although maybe the NFL allows the Packers to keep paying him part of his salary, I just don't know the NFL rules that well.
Maybe they can give him a bunch of Packers stock.
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Keep him to avoid the cap hit and bench him. Candidly, I’m a Bears fan
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Rodgers discusses his evaluation process with Pat McAfee
https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1615441001505755136?s=20&t=8lob0pG_voRagKjmrvKQwQ
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Rodgers discusses his evaluation process with Pat McAfee
https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1615441001505755136?s=20&t=8lob0pG_voRagKjmrvKQwQ
Sounds like he’ll continue to hold the franchise hostage and the leadership of the team is so weak and incompetent, they’ll let him. Good news for the division
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Rodgers says he can still win MVP
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-i-think-i-can-win-mvp-again-in-the-right-situation
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Sounds like he’ll continue to hold the franchise hostage and the leadership of the team is so weak and incompetent, they’ll let him. Good news for the division
The parallels to Favre are uncanny.
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The parallels to Favre are uncanny.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/17/aaron-rodgers-wants-favorite-veteran-teammates-back-with-him-in-green-bay-if-he-plays-in-2023/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/17/aaron-rodgers-wants-favorite-veteran-teammates-back-with-him-in-green-bay-if-he-plays-in-2023/
This might be the best way out for everyone. (Although I would love to see Lazard back.)
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Rodgers says he can still win MVP
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-i-think-i-can-win-mvp-again-in-the-right-situation
How about a Super Bowl? Isn’t that the goal? Aaron definitely couldn’t play with the Hausers
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How about a Super Bowl? Isn’t that the goal? Aaron definitely couldn’t play with the Hausers
Because he can't pass?
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Because he can't pass?
Not when it matters
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"I was pretty mediocre this year, but please make me happy by bringing back a bunch of aging middle of the road talent so I can have fun while I make $50MM next year on a middling team and set your impending rebuild even further back. Ya know, to reward me for all the Super Bowl titles Ive brought., er...NFC North Championships"
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"I was pretty mediocre this year, but please make me happy by bringing back a bunch of aging middle of the road talent so I can have fun while I make $50MM next year on a middling team and set your impending rebuild even further back. Ya know, to reward me for all the Super Bowl titles Ive brought., er...NFC North Championships"
Reminds me a bit of LeBron the GM. "I demand that you sign all my old friends and overpay them if necessary, but I will also be upset if I am not surrounded by top-tier talent."
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Except Lebron won a title with that strategy. If Rodgers could win a Super Bowl next year, I would be all for it. (Like I was last off-season.) But he cannot, so IMO it would be best for everyone to move on.
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Stephen A. Smith is not pleased with Aaron Rodgers current behavior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGBUuuLQF9k
https://twitter.com/FirstTake/status/1615742569773764613?cxt=HHwWisC8_c_TouwsAAAA
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Didant no Rico wuz Stephen A., hey?
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Didant no Rico wuz Stephen A., hey?
Reposted links so we can make sure. 8-)
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"I was pretty mediocre this year, but please make me happy by bringing back a bunch of aging middle of the road talent so I can have fun while I make $50MM next year on a middling team and set your impending rebuild even further back. Ya know, to reward me for all the Super Bowl titles Ive brought., er...NFC North Championships"
Yup pretty much. He can have his farewell tour somewhere else. Start the rebuild.
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Didant no Rico wuz Stephen A., hey?
Even a blind and deaf man knows Rodgers cares about Rodgers before actually winning a Super Bowl
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Gronk has a point of view on Rodgers
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/18/rob-gronkowski-criticizes-aaron-rodgers-for-aspiring-to-win-another-mvp-not-another-super-bowl/amp/
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Gronk has a point of view on Rodgers
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/18/rob-gronkowski-criticizes-aaron-rodgers-for-aspiring-to-win-another-mvp-not-another-super-bowl/amp/
Gronk hoping Aaron helps him get USAA insurance.
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Broadway Joe helps with recruiting Aaron Rodgers to The Jets
ttps://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe-namath-says-aaron-rodgers-can-wear-his-retired-no-12-with-jets-itd-be-great-to-have-him-in-new-york/
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/1/20/23564384/brace-for-another-offseason-of-drama-from-aaron-rodgers-who-lives-for-this-green-bay-packers
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/21/report-packers-aaron-rodgers-know-trade-is-very-real-scenario-this-offseason/
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He’s done in Green Bay. I think they put up with his sh*t until it stopped working. Time to move on.
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Packers Rookie Review : Christian Watson
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-rookie-review-wr-christian-watson/
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Winning playoff football with Rodgers stopped working years ago
He’s done in Green Bay. I think they put up with his sh*t until it stopped working. Time to move on.
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Allen Lazard. What will he command on the open market?
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-free-agent-review-wr-allen-lazard/
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Rodgers open to reworking contract
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35518669/aaron-rodgers-open-reworking-deal-plays-2023?platform=amp
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Rodgers open to reworking contract
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35518669/aaron-rodgers-open-reworking-deal-plays-2023?platform=amp
How much restructuring can be really do? I thought when it was signed, there wasn’t much from a restructuring that could be done with all the guaranteed money.
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How much restructuring can be really do? I thought when it was signed, there wasn’t much from a restructuring that could be done with all the guaranteed money.
Add more years to lower cap hit.
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Add more years to lower cap hit.
Kick that can down the road to keep Cobb and Tonyan is a great move imo
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Petrocelli, ya got 2 first rounders sittin' in yo back pocket? #12 kan bea had, aina?
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Petrocelli, ya got 2 first rounders sittin' in yo back pocket? #12 kan bea had, aina?
J-E-T-S
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J-E-T-S
If he gets traded to the Jets, I’ll believe this is all a simulation.
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If he gets traded to the Jets, I’ll believe this is all a simulation.
The circle is complete
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Hope things go better with The Duck
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/shailene-woodley-split-aaron-rodgers-darkest-hardest-time.amp
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Cowboys win the Super Bowl with Rodgers over Dak. Let's waive cap rules and get Aaron back with the Beav
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Would be ironic if Rodgers followed Brett Favre footsteps and went to Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/01/25/a-tricky-aaron-rodgers-pursuit-by-jets-could-take-awhile/amp/
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Ex-Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett being hired by.... The Jets
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Ex-Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett being hired by.... The Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/jets-hire-nathaniel-hackett-as-offensive-coordinator-with-aaron-rodgers-speculation-lingering/
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Ex-Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett being hired by.... The Jets
Hopefully that goes better for the Jets than it did for the Broncos when they brought Nathaniel Hackett in to lure Rodgers away from Green Bay.
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Would be ironic if Rodgers followed Brett Favre footsteps and went to Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/01/25/a-tricky-aaron-rodgers-pursuit-by-jets-could-take-awhile/amp/
Will he expose himself too?
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Check to see if any welfare funds have been diverted to the Wisconsin Ayahuasca Center.
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/jets-should-opt-for-jimmy-garoppolo-not-aaron-rodgers/amp/
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/jets-should-opt-for-jimmy-garoppolo-not-aaron-rodgers/amp/
They’re correct
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https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/91215/should-the-qb-needy-new-york-jets-go-all-in-for-aaron-rodgers?platform=amp
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More on Aaron Rodgers and The Jets
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/27/will-aaron-rodgers-land-with-the-jets/amp/
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Lots of good Tight End prospects for the Packers this year . Some may even be first round worthy.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/27/talented-draft-class-available-for-tight-end-needy-packers/
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Lots of good Tight End prospects for the Packers this year . Some may even be first round worthy.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/27/talented-draft-class-available-for-tight-end-needy-packers/
After they trade 12, they’ll have lots of first round picks
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After they trade 12, they’ll have lots of first round picks
This article says that there would be substantial interest from other teams .
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35551148/aaron-rodgers-packers-crossroads-trade-remains-possible?platform=amp
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This article says that there would be substantial interest from other teams .
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35551148/aaron-rodgers-packers-crossroads-trade-remains-possible?platform=amp
Source is Brian Gutekunst
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MVS a difference maker today for Chiefs . Much was made of Packers losing Davante Adams but maybe the loss of MVS hurt the team as well.
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MVS a difference maker today for Chiefs . Much was made of Packers losing Davante Adams but maybe the loss of MVS hurt the team as well.
It helps to actually have a QB who is decent in the playoffs. Rodgers makes 50 million a year and pissed down his leg in the playoffs three years in a row
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MVS a difference maker today for Chiefs . Much was made of Packers losing Davante Adams but maybe the loss of MVS hurt the team as well.
Watson is better than MVS in just about every way. The difference is losing the best WR in the game and your QB devolving into peak Trent Dilfer
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MVS a difference maker today for Chiefs . Much was made of Packers losing Davante Adams but maybe the loss of MVS hurt the team as well.
Brain dead take. Check out his stats for the year.
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https://nypost.com/2023/01/31/aaron-rodgers-responds-to-trade-rumors-as-jets-speculation-mounts/amp/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/04/aaron-rodgers-hearing-from-raiders-fans-at-pebble-beach-pro-am/
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But hey, keep the defensive coordinator LaFleur, it’s all good
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html)
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But hey, keep the defensive coordinator LaFleur, it’s all good
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html)
https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/lafleur-put-a-target-on-his-back-by-retaining-joe-barry/
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https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/lafleur-put-a-target-on-his-back-by-retaining-joe-barry/
Packers need better owners
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But hey, keep the defensive coordinator LaFleur, it’s all good
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html (https://www.yahoo.com/sports/packers-defense-picked-one-nfl-133549832.html)
LaFleur is really bad at hiring coordinators. And what’s worse, neither Gutekunst or Murphy, whoever is truly calling the shots upstairs, won’t veto these bad hires and retaining them.
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Packers need better owners
They need a Ron Wolf type leader and then a team president to get the eff out of the way of him.
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It helps to actually have a QB who is decent in the playoffs. Rodgers makes 50 million a year and pissed down his leg in the playoffs three years in a row
LaFleur and the people he hires also have an incontinence issue in big games and big moments.
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Let’s see if Packers do something about this in Free Agency or Draft
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/04/tight-end-identified-as-packers-biggest-need-entering-2023-offseason/
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Raiders pushing hard for #12
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/06/josh-jacobs-if-aaron-rodgers-comes-here-that-would-change-a-lot-of-things/
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Raiders pushing hard for #12
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/06/josh-jacobs-if-aaron-rodgers-comes-here-that-would-change-a-lot-of-things/
No excuse for the Packers to “run it back”
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Yeah, butt wee won't no 'til he gets back from his 4-day Himalayan retreat of eatin' elephant carcass in total darkness all the while standin' on his hed, aina?
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Sounds like Packers are actively working a possible deal for #12
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/06/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-nfl-execs-prediction-the-athletic-mike-sando-jets-raiders-titans/
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Yeah, butt wee won't no 'til he gets back from his 4-day Himalayan retreat of eatin' elephant carcass in total darkness all the while standin' on his hed, aina?
that could be quite constipating...where's he gonna get his fiber from?
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Sounds like Packers are actively working a possible deal for #12
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/06/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-nfl-execs-prediction-the-athletic-mike-sando-jets-raiders-titans/
Nothing in the article suggests that in any way.
“ It’s unclear if the executives have any working inside knowledge of the situation or are guessing based on the situation. It’s fair to wonder if a trade is more of what some execs are hoping for entering the offseason and less an info-based prediction of what will happen.”
You are doing the same thing the Executives are doing.
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Thinkin' da dude has worn out his welcome and his act gets old. Dis teem izant likely ta goe anywear wit 'im orr witout 'im. Sew, movin' on allows da Pack's brass to validate der pik of #10 and unload sum dead wait while sum teem will overpay for a fore tyme MVP. It all all adds up ta peddlin' hiz ass, aina?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/09/free-agent-qb-taylor-heinicke-would-love-to-play-for-packers/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/09/free-agent-qb-taylor-heinicke-would-love-to-play-for-packers/
He'd love to play for anyone.
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Packers are currently over The Salary Cap . This article lays out possible strategies for dealing with that
https://www.spotrac.com/news/whats-next-green-bay-packers-1757/
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Packers are currently over The Salary Cup . This article lays out possible strategies for dealing with that
https://www.spotrac.com/news/whats-next-green-bay-packers-1757/
Dump it out
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Packers have to make decision on Jordan Love fifth year shortly after the NFL draft .
I hope they can find another team willing to trade for him .
There are plenty of proven quarterbacks out there
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/07/jordan-loves-fifth-year-option-worth-20-27-million-in-2024/
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Packers have to make decision on Jordan Love fifth year shortly after the NFL draft .
I hope they can find another team willing to trade for him .
There are plenty of proven quarterbacks out there
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/07/jordan-loves-fifth-year-option-worth-20-27-million-in-2024/
Proven mediocre or worse.
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Packers have to make decision on Jordan Love fifth year shortly after the NFL draft .
I hope they can find another team willing to trade for him .
There are plenty of proven quarterbacks out there
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/07/jordan-loves-fifth-year-option-worth-20-27-million-in-2024/
Peddle his ass, aina?
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Peddle his ass, aina?
Yup, they can draft a qb with the picks they get for Rodgers
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Plus he ain't no kolekin' good, hey?
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Plus he ain't no kolekin' good, hey?
People covering and around the team disagree but I’m sure they don’t know ball
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Rodgers started darkness retreat yesterday .
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-irking-nfl-execs-report.amp
Tom Brady says it’s a good thing for Aaron , also doesn’t want him to retire .
https://amp.tmz.com/2023/02/14/tom-brady-defends-aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-nfl/
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Rodgers started darkness retreat yesterday .
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-irking-nfl-execs-report.amp
Tom Brady says it’s a good thing for Aaron , also doesn’t want him to retire .
https://amp.tmz.com/2023/02/14/tom-brady-defends-aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-nfl/
Why do you care about this? Why does anybody concern themselves with it.
I think we need a Scoop thread detailing what all Scoopers do when they are not at work. I’m sure the thread would be just as stupid as the one here about AR.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/14/aaron-rodgers-top-nfl-reporters-dont-have-sources-within-inner-circle/
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Good News on Aaron Jones
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/17/aaron-jones-packers-contract-details-structure-cap-hit-savings-void-dead/
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most of the jazz reported on AR is sensationalistic click bait. most of the "journalists' writing about him are not writing anything factual at all. there are very few people who really know what makes this guy tick while he just laughs himself to sleep. watch for his next 'head fake" then watch the media and talk shows go crazy. then watch for the next "head fake"...it both shows how gullible and simple minded people are willing to buy the next sham-wow, gingsu knives combo AND that's not all...if you act now, be the first to...
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most of the jazz reported on AR is sensationalistic click bait. most of the "journalists' writing about him are not writing anything factual at all. there are very few people who really know what makes this guy tick while he just laughs himself to sleep. watch for his next 'head fake" then watch the media and talk shows go crazy. then watch for the next "head fake"...it both shows how gullible and simple minded people are willing to buy the next sham-wow, gingsu knives combo AND that's not all...if you act now, be the first to...
Rodgers and Schefter share the same agent. Everything Schefter reports comes from their agent.
Rodgers is a smart dude. He knows he knows he can claim “fake news” and the fan base is populated with so many simple minded mouth breathers, they’ll take his side
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Maybe they know the truth, know who is full of crap, but are willing to report what they know to be false in order to boost their ratings.
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Rodgers and Schefter share the same agent. Everything Schefter reports comes from their agent.
Rodgers is a smart dude. He knows he knows he can claim “fake news” and the fan base is populated with so many simple minded mouth breathers, they’ll take his side
I believe you’ve got that caboose end backwards…except for AR being a smart dude, that he is. It’s the detractors that are the mouth breathing people you speak of. He’s like a cat playing with his food. The people who act like they are sick of his chit but cheer him on with his Jersey on like it’s the end of football world are the simple minders
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Maybe they know the truth, know who is full of crap, but are willing to report what they know to be false in order to boost their ratings.
I can’t think of anything that I read in the past week to prove this thesis 😂
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Well, can't be too dumb if he porkin' Edens' 26 yo daughter, aina?
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Me, neither. Just spitballin'.
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I believe you’ve got that caboose end backwards…except for AR being a smart dude, that he is. It’s the detractors that are the mouth breathing people you speak of. He’s like a cat playing with his food. The people who act like they are sick of his chit but cheer him on with his Jersey on like it’s the end of football world are the simple minders
Acting that they are tired of his nonsense but are willing to put up with it when he performs well is fine. It just doesn’t generate a great deal of good will. Which is why the chorus of GB fans wanting him back is pretty small.
And cat playing with food? Who cares?
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Acting that they are tired of his nonsense but are willing to put up with it when he performs well is fine. It just doesn’t generate a great deal of good will. Which is why the chorus of GB fans wanting him back is pretty small.
And cat playing with food? Who cares?
You should be able to relate…he doesn’t give a shucky darn about good will
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Me, neither. Just spitballin'.
Hear that whoosh sound? 😂
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You should be able to relate…he doesn’t give a shucky darn about good will
No kidding. Not sure how that’s related to your point though.
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Well, can't be too dumb if he porkin' Edens' 26 yo daughter, aina?
Devils advocate - given the way his past romantic endeavors have ended, he may be playing with fire robbing the cradle here. I would guess that a guy as loaded as Edens has connections that could thwart Rodgers's neverending quest for attention and affirmation if he wanted to use them.
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She's old enough to know she's just another notch on his bedpost. Just a hunch that she's not so innocent as she looks. As for her old man, anything that keeps the family name in the news, is good publicity, aina?
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She's old enough to know she's just another notch on his bedpost. Just a hunch that she's not so innocent as she looks. As for her old man, anything that keeps the family name in the news, is good publicity, aina?
Some recent photos posted by The Duck
https://www.instagram.com/p/CnVEjG3pAjy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Some recent photos posted by The Duck
https://www.instagram.com/p/CnVEjG3pAjy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Maybe she’ll pose in Playboy for you
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She's old enough to know she's just another notch on his bedpost. Just a hunch that she's not so innocent as she looks. As for her old man, anything that keeps the family name in the news, is good publicity, aina?
You sound like a pathetic old man fantasizing about what young girls/women are doing.
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Commin' from a dude who worked in lady's underwear, I appreciate da compliment, hey?
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I believe you’ve got that caboose end backwards…except for AR being a smart dude, that he is. It’s the detractors that are the mouth breathing people you speak of. He’s like a cat playing with his food. The people who act like they are sick of his chit but cheer him on with his Jersey on like it’s the end of football world are the simple minders
Lol. This is gold. He is fooling some people. It’s not who you believe. But hey, he certainly has you thinking what he wants, that he’s the smartest guy in the room.
I can’t imagine there are many “medical professionals” who think Aaron is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
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Bunch of old guys wondering about a 20 something year old’s sex life is…weird at best.
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Bunch of old guys wondering about a 20 something year old’s sex life is…weird at best.
That’s all they got left.
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Jets had positive meeting with Derek Carr, will they wait for #12 to come out of the dark?
https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/jets-face-derek-carr-aaron-rodgers-dilemma-after-positive-visit/
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Jets had positive meeting with Derek Carr, will they wait for #12 to come out of the dark?
https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/jets-face-derek-carr-aaron-rodgers-dilemma-after-positive-visit/
Him spending 4 days in darkness makes me think he’s prepping for the Raiders and playing in the black hole.
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You sound like a pathetic old man fantasizing about what young girls/women are doing.
sounds like you seem to know something about "pathetic old men"-ya know this is sposed to be no politics here eyn'a?
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sounds like you seem to know something about "pathetic old men"-ya know this is sposed to be no politics here eyn'a?
Mirrors.
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Jets had positive meeting with Derek Carr, will they wait for #12 to come out of the dark?
https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/jets-face-derek-carr-aaron-rodgers-dilemma-after-positive-visit/
I hope so, I have Carr +950 to the Commanders.
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Mirrors.
weak
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bob mcginn, long time sports writer and "expert" i guess on the packers thinks he has this rodgers thing all figured out.
https://www.fox6now.com/sports/packers-are-disgusted-with-aaron-rodgers-former-nfl-beat-writer-says
then today you hear the packers do want AR back but under certain conditions, etc etc
this is what i mean by people don't know jack, but will go to any lengths to get have their few minutes of fame. unless someone really knows, maybe they should stick to pickle ball err sumpin
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Rodgers out from the dark
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/23/aaron-rodgers-has-concluded-his-darkness-retreat/amp/
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He's stopping at Rico's crib to relieve himself of 4 days of accumulation and some breakfast, aina?
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bob mcginn, long time sports writer and "expert" i guess on the packers thinks he has this rodgers thing all figured out.
https://www.fox6now.com/sports/packers-are-disgusted-with-aaron-rodgers-former-nfl-beat-writer-says
then today you hear the packers do want AR back but under certain conditions, etc etc
this is what i mean by people don't know jack, but will go to any lengths to get have their few minutes of fame. unless someone really knows, maybe they should stick to pickle ball err sumpin
McGinn was reporting inside information from whatever sources he has. It could be those sources have incomplete information. I do think that this has been the case with McGinn for awhile now. Anyway, I think if they felt confident in Love, Rodgers would be gone.
Are you suggesting that no one should report anything unless it is 100% rock solid?
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He's stopping at Rico's crib to relieve himself of 4 days of accumulation and some breakfast, aina?
Hope he lights a candle
Edit: He arrived Monday and left Wednesday from his retreat. So like the playoffs, he left early
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Here ya go Petrocelli, hey?
https://www.skycaveretreats.com/
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Hope he lights a candle
Edit: He arrived Monday and left Wednesday from his retreat. So like the playoffs, he left early
Guess who else emerged after three days of darkness?
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Guess who else emerged after three days of darkness?
Willie
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Willie
There are a lot of posters who wish their willie would emerge after 3 days of darkness.
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Joe Klecko says Rodgers would not be a positive in the Jets Locker room
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe-klecko-says-aaron-rodgers-could-absolutely-ruin-the-jets-locker-room-its-not-gonna-fit/amp/
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Well, if Joe Klecko says it.....
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On top of Aaron Jones contract restructure Packers make two other moves
Packers restructure Jaire Alexander contract
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/25/packers-restructure-contract-of-cb-jaire-alexander-save-9-5m-on-salary-cap/
Packers restructure Preston Smith Contract
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/25/packers-restructure-contract-of-olb-preston-smith-save-6-7m-on-salary-cap/
Seems like Bakhtiari would be next
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Rodgers says decision coming soon
https://people.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-says-retirement-decision-coming-soon/
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Rodgers says decision coming soon
https://people.com/sports/aaron-rodgers-says-retirement-decision-coming-soon/
Is this the same guy that said this in January?
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https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/crime/2023/03/01/green-bay-packer-bill-ferrario-facing-new-charges-in-marathon-county/69958190007/
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https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/crime/2023/03/01/green-bay-packer-bill-ferrario-facing-new-charges-in-marathon-county/69958190007/
Wonder if he has CTE?
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Is this the same guy that said this in January?
Taking his notes from GRRM
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Some analysis of Rodgers trade value .
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-aaron-rodgers-trade-value-and-the-logistics-of-dealing-the-packers-star-qb-plus-his-best-fit/amp/
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Wonder if he has CTE?
He was in the NFL all of two years and never played. Never heard of concussion issues while at UW either.
Maybe Ferrario is just a POS who likes to harass, bully, and intimidate women.
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He was in the NFL all of two years and never played. Never heard of concussion issues while at UW either.
Maybe Ferrario is just a POS who likes to harass, bully, and intimidate women.
The Alvarez/Bielema teams were on the forefront of steroid usage as well
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Do steroids make you fat? Maybe Barry and Bret were inta it too, hey?
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Do steroids make you fat? Maybe Barry and Bret were inta it too, hey?
Too many grains
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saw an article (but didn't read it) but the headline said something to the effect that if rodgers joins the jets, the locker room would be turned upside down...hmmm, maybe i should find that one and read it as it could be "interesting"
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saw an article (but didn't read it) but the headline said something to the effect that if rodgers joins the jets, the locker room would be turned upside down...hmmm, maybe i should find that one and read it as it could be "interesting"
Herman posted it above.
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saw an article (but didn't read it) but the headline said something to the effect that if rodgers joins the jets, the locker room would be turned upside down...hmmm, maybe i should find that one and read it as it could be "interesting"
Jets or Packers?
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saw an article (but didn't read it) but the headline said something to the effect that if rodgers joins the jets, the locker room would be turned upside down...hmmm, maybe i should find that one and read it as it could be "interesting"
Fake news media out to get good guy Rodgers again.
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Jets or Packers?
He’s already ruined the Packers locker room by just being on the roster
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He’s already ruined the Packers locker room by just being on the roster
Curious why it would cause issues in the Jets locker room unless Mike White is that well liked. I don’t think Zach Wilson has a lot of friends there. Maybe amongst the mothers of the players he does.
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Curious why it would cause issues in the Jets locker room unless Mike White is that well liked. I don’t think Zach Wilson has a lot of friends there. Maybe amongst the mothers of the players he does.
That was Joe Klecko saying that. If 12 goes to another team and just walks in and skips all the camps and such, I could see it being a problem
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That was Joe Klecko saying that. If 12 goes to another team and just walks in and skips all the camps and such, I could see it being a problem
Bingo. Look at Russell Wilson in Denver, beyond stinking up the joint, he had his separate office and a bunch of other me first BS that rubbed people the wrong way. Rodgers has been able to get a way with a ton in GB, but if he expected the exact same treatment with all new teammates and a new team/org/etc... I could see that being an unpleasant introduction.
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Bingo. Look at Russell Wilson in Denver, beyond stinking up the joint, he had his separate office and a bunch of other me first BS that rubbed people the wrong way. Rodgers has been able to get a way with a ton in GB, but if he expected the exact same treatment with all new teammates and a new team/org/etc... I could see that being an unpleasant introduction.
Read into Mr. Wilson's non profit.
Dude is a scum bag.
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He’s already ruined the Packers locker room by just being on the roster
Stephen A. Smith wuz write, aina?
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Stephen A. Smith wuz write, aina?
If that’s what he said, then yes
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Interesting take by the bettors .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/03/the-raiders-are-the-betting-favorites-to-land-aaron-rodgers/amp/
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Aaron Rodgers gives personal endorsement to Indian Restaurant in Green Bay. One of their best customers .
https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/fans/2023/03/02/aaron-rodgers-gives-a-shout-out-to-ashwaubenon-restaurant-india-bhavan/69964676007/
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https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/01/aaron-rodgers-emerges-darkness-retreat-las-vegas-raiders-not-interested-trade/
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Interesting take by the bettors .
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/03/the-raiders-are-the-betting-favorites-to-land-aaron-rodgers/amp/
Florio may be dumbest, least informed, and anti-packer writer there is...
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I think Florio is pretty plugged into Packers' management however.
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Florio may be dumbest, least informed, and anti-packer writer there is...
I don’t know about dumbest, but he is definitely anti-GB and really, really anti- Rodgers.
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Now or never for The Jets
https://theathletic.com/4280493/2023/03/06/aaron-rodgers-jets-quarterback-derek-carr/?amp=1
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Enough smoke out there the Packers want 12 to move on. Methinks that motivates him to stay. Either way, fascinating year awaits on the tundra
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Enough smoke out there the Packers want 12 to move on. Methinks that motivates him to stay. Either way, fascinating year awaits on the tundra
Yeah that's cracking me up. They "hope he doesn't want to stay in Green Bay." Peddle his azz, hey? If the reports are true that they prefer him to want to retire or be traded, then just trade him. If he doesn't want to be traded to whatever team that is to, then he can retire.
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Yeah that's cracking me up. They "hope he doesn't want to stay in Green Bay." Peddle his azz, hey? If the reports are true that they prefer him to want to retire or be traded, then just trade him. If he doesn't want to be traded to whatever team that is to, then he can retire.
They screwed the pooch last year giving him that deal. If he comes back, they can bring back the rest of the geriatrics he wants. Kick that can down the road.
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Pretty sure they aren't going to mind trading him.
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Yeah that's cracking me up. They "hope he doesn't want to stay in Green Bay." Peddle his azz, hey? If the reports are true that they prefer him to want to retire or be traded, then just trade him. If he doesn't want to be traded to whatever team that is to, then he can retire.
Except if he retires instead of accepting whatever trade the GB cap hit is even worse.
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Yeah that's cracking me up. They "hope he doesn't want to stay in Green Bay." Peddle his azz, hey? If the reports are true that they prefer him to want to retire or be traded, then just trade him. If he doesn't want to be traded to whatever team that is to, then he can retire.
Yeah, everyone trying to win the "the other party left me no choice" contest is starting to make all parties look sad and ineffectual. Ultimately I think Rodgers is going to win that battle because the draft is a real deadline for the Packers to give Rodgers the bulletin board material he's dying for.
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Yeah, everyone trying to win the "the other party left me no choice" contest is starting to make all parties look sad and ineffectual. Ultimately I think Rodgers is going to win that battle because the draft is a real deadline for the Packers to give Rodgers the bulletin board material he's dying for.
Yup, yup, yup. High noon showdown where the winner is everyone watching
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Yup, yup, yup. High noon showdown where the winner is everyone watching
I think he's gonna come out and say he wants to stay in Green Bay and keep playing. He won't accept a trade, he'd retire first. Basically, he wants complete control over his situation, and he does NOT want to be traded away in favor of Jordan Love. That'll force Love to demand a trade, and the Pack will get like a 3rd or 4th rounder for him tops.
I don't see anything else happening. Essentially, he's gonna screw over the Packers, and to a lesser extent, the Jets. Cuz he wants his way...
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Aaron Rodgers close friend, Randall Cobb, just some clean up surgery on his ankle. If Rodgers comes back to Packers, Cobb will be ready to come with him.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/04/packers-wr-randall-cobb-had-clean-up-surgery-on-ankle/
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Aaron Rodgers close friend, Randall Cobb, just some clean up surgery on his ankle. If Rodgers comes back to Packers, Cobb will be ready to come with him.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/04/packers-wr-randall-cobb-had-clean-up-surgery-on-ankle/
Anytime you can bring back a 33 year-old WR who hasn’t played a full season in nearly a decade coming off surgery, you pull that trigger
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Trey Wingo reporting 12 talked to the Jets yesterday. Can’t do that without permission from the Packers.
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I assume Mallory lives in New York. I’m ready for the Love era.
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Trey Wingo reporting 12 talked to the Jets yesterday. Can’t do that without permission from the Packers.
I've been saying for weeks that they are done with him. I wouldn't doubt they already have the compensation lined up.
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I assume Mallory lives in New York. I’m ready for the Love era.
Dat'll bea over inn a New York minute, hey?
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I've been saying for weeks that they are done with him. I wouldn't doubt they already have the compensation lined up.
Poor Jets fans
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Poor Jets fans
NYC Sports radio has been non-stop talk about Rogers to the Jets since the Super Bowl ended.
He's an incredibly large step up from Zach Wilson.
And please make the talk stop.
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Does he get the #4 and a set of Crocs when made official?
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I've been saying for weeks that they are done with him. I wouldn't doubt they already have the compensation lined up.
I disagreed with your take last off-season.
This year I fully agree.
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NYC Sports radio has been non-stop talk about Rogers to the Jets since the Super Bowl ended.
He's an incredibly large step up from Zach Wilson.
And please make the talk stop.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/07/report-aaron-rodgers-spoke-to-jets-on-monday/amp/
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Rodgers getting the Love he wants from The Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/aaron-rodgers-jets-meeting-in-person-today/amp/
Hope the Jets are willing to pony up money and draft picks .
A future with Jordan Love is not exciting . Maybe the Packers can replace Rodgers with Lamar Jackson
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https://twitter.com/dangrazianoespn/status/1633189427391389698?s=46&t=raiP9G-d-XR-I18-f6CKVA
Dan Graziano
@DanGrazianoESPN
I’m told the Jets contingent on the way to California includes team owner Woody Johnson, GM Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, possibly others.
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Rodgers getting the Love he wants from The Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/aaron-rodgers-jets-meeting-in-person-today/amp/
Hope the Jets are willing to pony up money and draft picks .
A future with Jordan Love is not exciting . Maybe the Packers can replace Rodgers with Lamar Jackson
Maybe they can get Tiger Woods to play QB
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Maybe they can get Tiger Woods to play QB
Or Ed Cooley.
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https://twitter.com/dangrazianoespn/status/1633189427391389698?s=46&t=raiP9G-d-XR-I18-f6CKVA
Is Ed Werder camped outside the house? Do we have flight tracker?
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But how much Ayahuasca are they bringing?
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-will-get-traded-to-one-of-these-two-teams-according-to-prediction-from-his-former-backup-qb/amp/
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-will-get-traded-to-one-of-these-two-teams-according-to-prediction-from-his-former-backup-qb/amp/
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Rodgers getting the Love he wants from The Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/aaron-rodgers-jets-meeting-in-person-today/amp/
Hope the Jets are willing to pony up money and draft picks .
A future with Jordan Love is not exciting . Maybe the Packers can replace Rodgers with Lamar Jackson
Why in the world would the Jets pony up money and picks? They’re competing with no one else for Rodgers, they have virtually all the leverage here.
If a trade goes down, it’ll all come down to how much of $60M Green Bay is willing to eat. All the Packers are doing here is buying draft picks, that’s all this is.
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Why in the world would the Jets pony up money and picks? They’re competing with no one else for Rodgers, they have virtually all the leverage here.
If a trade goes down, it’ll all come down to how much of $60M Green Bay is willing to eat. All the Packers are doing here is buying draft picks, that’s all this is.
Don’t understand why Guty goes around the league saying Love is ready to start . Seems to me that diminishes Rodgers trade value, unless of course they want to trade Love.
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Don’t understand why Guty goes around the league saying Love is ready to start . Seems to me that diminishes Rodgers trade value, unless of course they want to trade Love.
Don’t understand why he would want to keep 12
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Just ta fook wit ya, hey?
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https://nypost.com/2023/03/07/jets-need-to-be-sure-when-it-comes-to-aaron-rodgers/amp/
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Just ta fook wit ya, hey?
Won’t fook with me except kicking the can to a full rebuild/reload down the road. Disappointing for Packers fans that know the truth.
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One of the issues the Packers have is top management has no accountability .
It appears they will not get much for Rodgers .
https://www.wbay.com/2023/03/10/murphy-addresses-rodgers-future-with-packers/?outputType=amp
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One of the issues the Packers have is top management has no accountability .
It appears they will not get much for Rodgers .
https://www.wbay.com/2023/03/10/murphy-addresses-rodgers-future-with-packers/?outputType=amp
Well, yeah. Not trading him after 2020 was franchise malpractice
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Expect a trade on Monday.
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Allen Lazard waiting on Rodgers decision.
https://www.nfl.com/videos/garafolo-allen-lazard-is-waiting-to-see-what-aaron-rodgers-decision-on-playing-f
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Randall Cobb comin back for another year in 2023. Question is will it be with Packers or Jets?
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/cobb-makes-decision-on-football-future
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Randall Cobb comin back for another year in 2023. Question is will it be with Packers or Jets?
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/cobb-makes-decision-on-football-future
Washed up. Know when to walk away.
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Washed up. Know when to walk away.
When someone stops paying him.
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Kinda of think the Jets have gotten to a place where they are over a barrel right now. Because either they trade for Rodgers or else they have no decent options - unless you view "signing Baker Mayfield" as a decent option. Not sure the Packers need to rush to make a deal right now.
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Kinda of think the Jets have gotten to a place where they are over a barrel right now. Because either they trade for Rodgers or else they have no decent options - unless you view "signing Baker Mayfield" as a decent option. Not sure the Packers need to rush to make a deal right now.
Packers need to make the deal so the Jets take their trash like Cobb, Lewis & Lazard
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Packers need to make the deal so the Jets take their trash like Cobb, Lewis & Lazard
Lol you mean this list of guys Rodgers is reportedly already demanding the Jets get
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Lol you mean this list of guys Rodgers is reportedly already demanding the Jets get
Yes. And OBJ? Two ACL OBJ? Jets might as well start planning the next rebuild
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IMO Rodgers announces his decision and breaks it while on Pat McAfee.
It's the only reason this hasn't been officially announced.
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I'm not sure they are awaiting on his decision as much as the Packers and Jets are still working things through.
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IMO Rodgers announces his decision and breaks it while on Pat McAfee.
It's the only reason this hasn't been officially announced.
Since the ARod-McAfee bromance really kicked up, Kuhn has went OVERTIME carrying every last drop of Rodgers water on his radio show. I caught 3 min this morning while jumping on a call during my drive and he was basically yelling his support for everything Rodgers has done in the last 6 months and how much it should be respected.
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Since the ARod-McAfee bromance really kicked up, Kuhn has went OVERTIME carrying every last drop of Rodgers water on his radio show. I caught 3 min this morning while jumping on a call during my drive and he was basically yelling his support for everything Rodgers has done in the last 6 months and how much it should be respected.
Maybe Kuhn is hoping for a contract from the Jets too.
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Since the ARod-McAfee bromance really kicked up, Kuhn has went OVERTIME carrying every last drop of Rodgers water on his radio show. I caught 3 min this morning while jumping on a call during my drive and he was basically yelling his support for everything Rodgers has done in the last 6 months and how much it should be respected.
Kuhn is proof, that if you’re a white FB, you can also get a radio show in Wisconsin
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I'm not sure they are awaiting on his decision as much as the Packers and Jets are still working things through.
Also, I’m not sure the Packers would be super active in free agency with their cap position. So they may have time to wait to your earlier point.
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I'm not sure they are awaiting on his decision as much as the Packers and Jets are still working things through.
I think they are waiting on Rodgers decision. His demands in terms of who the Jets sign are an example of this. He will stick it to everyone if he doesn't get what he wants.
He is playing chicken with both teams right now.
The Jets don't want him, if he isn't going to play for them (e.g. retire). He is making demands on what he needs in order to want to play for the Jets. The Packers can't do anything until Rodgers agrees to continue playing for another team.
I guarantee you the terms of a deal are already worked out, now the question is what will Rodgers do.
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I think they are waiting on Rodgers decision. His demands in terms of who the Jets sign are an example of this. He will stick it to everyone if he doesn't get what he wants.
He is playing chicken with both teams right now.
The Jets don't want him, if he isn't going to play for them (e.g. retire). He is making demands on what he needs in order to want to play for the Jets. The Packers can't do anything until Rodgers agrees to continue playing for another team.
I guarantee you the terms of a deal are already worked out, now the question is what will Rodgers do.
This Rodgers drama has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous...
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35858787/aaron-rodgers-gives-jets-wish-list-free-agents-sources-say
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Kuhn is proof, that if you’re a white FB, you can also get a radio show in Wisconsin
Seemed to recall #36 and #31 had a show on the radio too, until the station went belly up due to poor ratings, hey?
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Seemed to recall #36 and #31 had a show on the radio too, until the station went belly up due to poor ratings, hey?
White people love yelling Kuuuuuuhn at their radios
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jets announce signing of lazzard to 4 year $44 mil deal and are in talks with randall cobb. gee, davante gotta feel left out
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jets announce signing of lazzard to 4 year $44 mil deal and are in talks with randall cobb. gee, davante gotta feel left out
Nice to be friends with Rodgers .
https://nypost.com/2023/03/14/jets-sign-allen-lazard-to-44-million-deal-in-aaron-rodgers-push/
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anyone get the funny feeling Arod is leaving the pack for the jets??
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anyone get the funny feeling Arod is leaving the pack for the jets??
I think that’s just the ayahuasca talking
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IMO Rodgers announces his decision and breaks it while on Pat McAfee.
It's the only reason this hasn't been officially announced.
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Yeah, pat yourself on the back. :) He's blaming the Packers for holding up the trade.
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Well, they probably are. They want more and the Jets want to pay less. And honestly, at the moment, the Packers have the upper hand.
Jets have signed players that make Rodgers happy, and Rodgers has announced his intent.
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Neither the Jets nor Rodgers have other options. Well outside of Rodgers retiring. The Packers SHOULD hold out for the best deal available because they have time on their side.
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He said he was 90% thinking retirement before his darkness retreat and after hearing about GB trade shopping him and stating positives about Jordan Love that he made up his mind.
yeah OK Rodgers
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Yeah, I could definitely see Rodgers playing second fiddle to Tom Brady at the HOF enshrinement. For a guy that claims to be very smart, he really must think the public is not very sharp to believe this stuff.
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Neither the Jets nor Rodgers have other options. Well outside of Rodgers retiring. The Packers SHOULD hold out for the best deal available because they have time on their side.
Exactly. I didn't say otherwise. I was just relaying ARod's nonsense.
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Yeah, I could definitely see Rodgers playing second fiddle to Tom Brady at the HOF enshrinement. For a guy that claims to be very smart, he really must think the public is not very sharp to believe this stuff.
He read Atlas Shrugged and it changed his world, man
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Also, the Packers are free and can start again
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He read Atlas Shrugged and it changed his world, man
Just wait until he gets to Catcher In The Rye
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Neither the Jets nor Rodgers have other options. Well outside of Rodgers retiring. The Packers SHOULD hold out for the best deal available because they have time on their side.
The Jets could certainly pursue Lamar. I’m not saying they’re going to, but that option certainly exists.
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He said he was 90% thinking retirement before his darkness retreat and after hearing about GB trade shopping him and stating positives about Jordan Love that he made up his mind.
yeah OK Rodgers
This constant need for bulletin board material is so tired. How about just having some intrinsic motivation instead of having to live a life completely dependent on perceived slights?
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Rodgers to Jets
https://nypost.com/2023/03/15/aaron-rodgers-news-live-updates-rumors-and-analysis-as-jets-trade-looms/amp/
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Thanks for the update, Herman. I hadn't heard about this shocking turn of events.
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Please just let us be free of Rodgers at last...
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Done deal.
He gowne.
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yes BUT they haven't agreed to compensation
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More detail on Rodgers desire to move on. When he came out of darkness he found out Packers didn’t want him any more and now has a chip on the shoulder
Hope the Packers can extract as much as possible from Jets
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/03/15/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-green-bay-packers-trade/11273168002/
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More detail on Rodgers desire to move on. When he came out of darkness he found out Packers didn’t want him any more and now has a chip on the shoulder
Hope the Packers can extract as much as possible from Jets
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/03/15/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-green-bay-packers-trade/11273168002/
Feel bad for Jets fans
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More detail on Rodgers desire to move on. When he came out of darkness he found out Packers didn’t want him any more and now has a chip on the shoulder
I don't mean to belabor the point, but it is just such a tremendous galaxy brain self-own to say "I am so focused on understanding myself and reaching a higher level of consciousness that I deprived myself of all light for days, and that introspection lead me to make a major life choice with a very high (90%) level of certainty. But then I came out and heard someone said a mean thing about me, so I scrapped all that and decided to do the other thing out of spite."
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I don't mean to belabor the point, but it is just such a tremendous galaxy brain self-own to say "I am so focused on understanding myself and reaching a higher level of consciousness that I deprived myself of all light for days, and that introspection lead me to make a major life choice with a very high (90%) level of certainty. But then I came out and heard someone said a mean thing about me, so I scrapped all that and decided to do the other thing out of spite."
New York media is going to age him 20 years in a year
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New York media is going to age him 20 years in a year
If he thinks vaccines are dangerous wait till he learns about the side effects of a free press
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I think they are waiting on Rodgers decision. His demands in terms of who the Jets sign are an example of this. He will stick it to everyone if he doesn't get what he wants.
He is playing chicken with both teams right now.
The Jets don't want him, if he isn't going to play for them (e.g. retire). He is making demands on what he needs in order to want to play for the Jets. The Packers can't do anything until Rodgers agrees to continue playing for another team.
I guarantee you the terms of a deal are already worked out, now the question is what will Rodgers do.
Well, it appears I was wrong, and they are just waiting on agreed terms.
I wonder though if part of the problem is that the Jets don't want to pay that salary, and either want a contract renegotiation, or the Pack to pay a significant part of the salary.
Rogers I'm sure is unwilling to take less, and unless the Pack is getting a good deal draft capital wise, I don't see why they would eat the cash.
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The Packers have no incentive to make a quick deal that they view as bad.
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Discussed on NY sports radio. Deal probably won't "officially" happen until June 1. After that date the Packers cap hit will only be $15mil instead of $40mil.
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If I’m the Jets, I hold out as long as possible. A 2023 draft pick is of more value than a 2024 pick (if trading Rodgers to an ascending team). I’d definitely hold out until after this year’s draft to make any deal.
Ultimate hard deadline is on Green Bay. I’d play poker with them up until that roster bonus needs to be picked up (which would be catastrophic on the Packers cap). Even if it’s a week before the season, if I’m the Jets, so what? Rodgers isn’t participating in OTA’s anyway, Hackett’s in the building so he has a good idea on the playbook already, Rodgers isn’t going to take any preseason game snaps.
Both teams probably should just come to a conditional agreement if they want a deal done sooner, but neither side should be motivated to do something until after June 1st.
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White people love yelling Kuuuuuuhn at their radios
This morning…
Kuhn: “The Jets are absolutely contenders in the AFC, they are the clear 3rd best team in the AFC with Aaron. They aren’t quite to the Bills yet, but they aren’t that far off now…
Butch: “Are you kidding me? The Jets were the worst team in their division. I don’t even think they are better than Miami with just Rodgers”
Kuhn: “he will change the whole locker room, not just the offense but the defense too.”
Really hope he hears that John, hope he sends you an edible arrangement. Just insane pick me behavior
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Man, we could have won a few more Super Bowls if Rodgers had that much impact on the defense.
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Feel bad for Jets fans
Vikings fans pumped for their shot at AR in '24
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Packers and Jets not seeing eye to eye on Rodgers value
https://nypost.com/2023/03/16/jets-packers-far-apart-on-aaron-rodgers-trade/amp/
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This morning…
Kuhn: “The Jets are absolutely contenders in the AFC, they are the clear 3rd best team in the AFC with Aaron. They aren’t quite to the Bills yet, but they aren’t that far off now…
Butch: “Are you kidding me? The Jets were the worst team in their division. I don’t even think they are better than Miami with just Rodgers”
Kuhn: “he will change the whole locker room, not just the offense but the defense too.”
Really hope he hears that John, hope he sends you an edible arrangement. Just insane pick me behavior
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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This morning…
Kuhn: “The Jets are absolutely contenders in the AFC, they are the clear 3rd best team in the AFC with Aaron. They aren’t quite to the Bills yet, but they aren’t that far off now…
Butch: “Are you kidding me? The Jets were the worst team in their division. I don’t even think they are better than Miami with just Rodgers”
Kuhn: “he will change the whole locker room, not just the offense but the defense too.”
Really hope he hears that John, hope he sends you an edible arrangement. Just insane pick me behavior
He'll change the whole locker room like J&J changes your DNA
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Packers stare down with Jets. Hopefully Packers can get what they want.
https://nypost.com/2023/03/16/the-issues-holding-up-jets-packers-aaron-rodgers-deal/
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So if this drags on awhile and the Jets don't don't want to pay top draft compensation, does Rodgers start to perceive that as disrespect too?
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So if this drags on awhile and the Jets don't don't want to pay top draft compensation, does Rodgers start to perceive that as disrespect too?
Just Gutey being a terrible person for not giving Rodgers what he wants after he gave so much to the Packers. At least that would be the theme of the next McAfee show.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/20/aaron-rodgers-guaranteed-salary-provides-another-big-hurdle-in-trade-talks-with-jets/
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https://twitter.com/joearrigofsm/status/1637868146588790786?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Isn’t great to have a QB work to get himself and his teammates better instead of spending the off-season dating witches and drinking cow urine?
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https://twitter.com/joearrigofsm/status/1637868146588790786?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Isn’t great to have a QB work to get himself and his teammates better instead of spending the off-season dating witches and drinking cow urine?
The good news is Rodgers romance with The Duck won't be long distance. If he takes the Scottie Pippen approach there can be nightly booty calls.
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The good news is Rodgers romance with The Duck won't be long distance. If he takes the Scottie Pippen approach there can be nightly booty calls.
Who cares?
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Former Packers Front Office Exec says Packers have the advantage....
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/20/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-jets-leverage
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Former Packers Front Office Exec says Packers have the advantage....
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/20/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-jets-leverage
Seems to mirror everyone's take on the situation. I'd guess the Packers want a '23 draft pick so they do have a pressure point, but it seems very evident that the Packers hold the upper hand, if you dismiss the fact they are losing a HOF QB.
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Profile on The Duck…..
https://www.insider.com/aaron-rodgers-mallory-edens-photos-2023-3#edens-graduated-from-princeton-where-she-ran-as-a-division-i-athlete-in-womens-track-and-field-in-2018-4
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Profile on The Duck…..
https://www.insider.com/aaron-rodgers-mallory-edens-photos-2023-3#edens-graduated-from-princeton-where-she-ran-as-a-division-i-athlete-in-womens-track-and-field-in-2018-4
Do you think about her when you masterbate?
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https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2023/03/21/2023-aaron-rodgers-right-for-jets-wrong-for-new-york
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Where did this "The Duck" name come from? Is its a Herman pet name thing?
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Kan't use da "F" word, hey?
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Where did this "The Duck" name come from? Is its a Herman pet name thing?
My guess is due to Mallory being close to Mallard.
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Jets fans lobbying The Duck ….
https://nypost.com/2023/03/24/aaron-rodgers-fans-hit-mallory-edens-instagram-amid-jets-buzz/amp/
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but it seems very evident that the Packers hold the upper hand, if you dismiss the fact they are losing a HOF QB.
Unless the next man up is yet another Hall of Fame Quarterback.
You never know! Nobody thought that about ARog.
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Former Packers Front Office Exec says Packers have the advantage....
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/20/aaron-rodgers-trade-packers-jets-leverage
great read - idiot Jets fans (I know, oxymoron) with zero knowledge of the contract situation basically say the Packers are in position to take nothing more than a toaster for Rodgers.
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great read - idiot Jets fans (I know, oxymoron) with zero knowledge of the contract situation basically say the Packers are in position to take nothing more than a toaster for Rodgers.
You may want to Google 'oxymoron'.
I think the work 'redundant' works better?
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You may want to Google 'oxymoron'.
I think the work 'redundant' works better?
yep, too late night of a post...
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https://www.tmz.com/2023/03/25/allen-lazard-aaron-rodgers-big-reason-jets-signing-expects-trade/?adid=social-twa
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Would GB be interested in Lamar Jackson now that he wants to be traded? The chance Love is ever as good as Jackson is very slim (no offense to Love; very high bar w/ LJ).
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Would GB be interested in Lamar Jackson now that he wants to be traded? The chance Love is ever as good as Jackson is very slim (no offense to Love; very high bar w/ LJ).
I’m pretty sure he’s asking for an absurd contract like what Watson got. Even if the Packers wanted him, I’m not sure they could field a team between that contract and what they owe Rodgers.
I also don’t think Lamar would be worth all that.
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What would be the trade value for Lamar ?
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What would be the trade value for Lamar ?
Isn’t it 2 first rounders? Or is that able to be negotiated?
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Isn’t it 2 first rounders? Or is that able to be negotiated?
T.B.D. The 2 first round picks are locked in if you sign him while under the franchise tag. A trade could be anything.
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Packers GM has room for improvement
https://www.nfl.com/_amp/packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-doesn-t-view-getting-first-round-pick-as-necessity-in
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https://twitter.com/gbpdaily/status/1641182990394073088?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Isn’t it nice to have a QB willing to work hard and better yet, have a QB whose teammates respect
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This morning on the radio (Get Up!) Tedy Bruschi said the Packers treated Aaron poorly.
Not that Aaron feels like the Packers treated him poorly.
Is Bruschi right? Are the Packers guilty of treating the star QB bad?
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This morning on the radio (Get Up!) Tedy Bruschi said the Packers treated Aaron poorly.
Not that Aaron feels like the Packers treated him poorly.
Is Bruschi right? Are the Packers guilty of treating the star QB bad?
Nope
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This morning on the radio (Get Up!) Tedy Bruschi said the Packers treated Aaron poorly.
Not that Aaron feels like the Packers treated him poorly.
Is Bruschi right? Are the Packers guilty of treating the star QB bad?
Absolutely! They only gave generational wealth to a quarterback who hasn't been in a Super Bowl in more than a decade and who has authored several heartbreaking season endings. Terrible.
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Absolutely! They only gave generational wealth to a quarterback who hasn't been in a Super Bowl in more than a decade and who has authored several heartbreaking season endings. Terrible.
I agree. As a Bears fan I feel like GB has been fair and professional with AR.
I wonder if Tedy is a lone wolf in terms of players feelings about GB or if he reflects many players take on the AR situation.
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This morning on the radio (Get Up!) Tedy Bruschi said the Packers treated Aaron poorly.
Not that Aaron feels like the Packers treated him poorly.
Is Bruschi right? Are the Packers guilty of treating the star QB bad?
If they treated him poorly, it's because they surrounded him with historically bad defenses and/or historically bad meltdowns. Which I'm sure was just Gutey's and Ted's way of exerting control.
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This morning on the radio (Get Up!) Tedy Bruschi said the Packers treated Aaron poorly.
Not that Aaron feels like the Packers treated him poorly.
Is Bruschi right? Are the Packers guilty of treating the star QB bad?
I played in a golf outing once with Tedy. He self admitted to many of concussions. So not sure he is thinking clearly.
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The Athletic took a look at 2020 first-round draft picks to see which ones merited having their 5th-year options exercised by their teams. Teams have until May 2 to make the call. Here's what they said about Love:
QB Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers
Pick: 26 | 2024 option salary: $20.272 million
It’s a lot of money to pay such an unproven player. But the Packers believe in Love enough to shop Aaron Rodgers. If Love plays in 2023 like team officials expect, picking up the fifth-year option will look really smart.
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The Athletic took a look at 2020 first-round draft picks to see which ones merited having their 5th-year options exercised by their teams. Teams have until May 2 to make the call. Here's what they said about Love:
QB Jordan Love, Green Bay Packers
Pick: 26 | 2024 option salary: $20.272 million
It’s a lot of money to pay such an unproven player. But the Packers believe in Love enough to shop Aaron Rodgers. If Love plays in 2023 like team officials expect, picking up the fifth-year option will look really smart.
They don't really have a choice. They're moving on a year too late, and they need the years of control to figure it out. Plus, if Love is terrible, you're better leaning into the suck for a year
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They don't really have a choice. They're moving on a year too late, and they need the years of control to figure it out. Plus, if Love is terrible, you're better leaning into the suck for a year
Two years ago, the Panthers faced a similar decision with Darnold.
For my Packer-fan friends, I hope this turns out better for y’all.
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If they are going to pay $20M for complete suckage, I'm available for $18M.
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Cluster Fook
https://nypost.com/2023/04/13/why-jets-woody-johnson-might-have-held-up-aaron-rodgers-trade/amp/
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Cluster Fook
https://nypost.com/2023/04/13/why-jets-woody-johnson-might-have-held-up-aaron-rodgers-trade/amp/
I’m not going to get too worked up until the draft happens without the trade going through or it’s a weak return. There’s not really any deadline until the draft.
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I’m not going to get too worked up until the draft happens without the trade going through or it’s a weak return. There’s not really any deadline until the draft.
Wouldn’t the packers prefer that the trade be official after June 1st? If so, terms could be agreed on, draft picks being done for other team etc. Just can’t be made official until after June 1st?
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Would love to see the Jets trip over their “Johnson “ Rod.
https://nypost.com/2023/04/20/aaron-rodgers-trade-49ers-whispers-intensify-in-possible-jets-disaster/amp/
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The Jets are still the Jets. No team in the NFL is better at screwing things up.
GB should demand their 1st rounder as a starting point and if the Jets say no, look to SF or Tennessee.
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Nice job by the Packers to leak that other teams are interested in ARod.
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i think detroit could f' this up better than jets as they always seem to do when most everyone else would have this thing dic..in the bag
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The Packers are free of the choking dog
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1650595082616164352?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Didn't get enough, aina?
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The Packers are free of the choking dog
https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1650595082616164352?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Pretty strong return for a 40 year old who wasn't very good last year.
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Compensation seems fine, essentially two 2nd round picks, I’d be curious if a new contract was worked out. That’s of more interest to me to see here.
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Nope, one year removed from MVP status. GBP got fleeced, hey?
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Didn't get enough, aina?
Nope, front office should have traded him after 2020. That’s on them and why they’ll be job hunting probably in a year or two
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Nope, one year removed from MVP status. GBP got fleeced, hey?
In what way? They get a 2nd this year and if he plays 65% of the snaps next year they get a first. Otherwise they get two seconds. What were you expecting them to get?
Pretty easy for the Jets to counter the Packers "well he was MVP 2 years ago!" with "Well he stunk last year, he's going to be 40, and he's constantly trying to retire so we're not giving you 2 firsts."
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Sure, shoulda cut bait with the dude and there was no rush to draft #10, who likely will suck major ass, aina?
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In what way? They get a 2nd this year and if he plays 65% of the snaps next year they get a first. What were you expecting them to get?
Pretty easy for the Jets to counter the Packers "well he was MVP 2 years ago!" with "Well he stunk last year, he's going to be 40, and he's constantly trying to retire so we're not giving you 2 firsts."
Shoulda peddled his ass to the Broncos who spent like a drunken sailor for #3, hey?
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Gutekunst is saying it's "not finalized" due to "paperwork," which my guess is that Rodgers has to sign an amended contract to lesson the cap hit.
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Shoulda peddled his ass to the Broncos who spent like a drunken sailor for #3, hey?
No team is trading a reigning MVP that had just led his team to the 1 seed.
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He gowne.
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Get your Love jersey while they're still in stock, hey?
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No team is trading a reigning MVP that had just led his team to the 1 seed.
Why not? Seriously, why not? That same qb who lost to Tampa Bay at Lambeau with Tom Brady throwing 3 interceptions? The same QB who mustered 10 points against San Francisco is a divisional playoff game a year later at Lambeau?
The Jets will learn what the Packers knew, Rodgers isn’t going to ever repeat 2010
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Packers should be willing to trade out of 13 and add more picks. Get young and if Love bombs, start anew in 2024. Excited for a Packers season for the first time since 2014.
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Packers should be willing to trade out of 13 and add more picks. Get young and if Love bombs, start anew in 2024. Excited for a Packers season for the first time since 2014.
I suspect teams are going to have a hard time trading down in this draft, and if they do, they won't get great value. The consensus seems to be there are a handful of non-QB bluechippers out there, and after that, there's not much difference between guys who will go in the teens and guys who will go 15-20 picks later.
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#10 and the 13th pick should be able to get 'em pick #30, hey?
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The conditional SHOULD be a 1st round pick next year.
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I suspects teams are going to have a hard time trading down in this draft, and if they do, they won't get great value. The consensus seems to be there are a handful of non-QB bluechippers out there, and after that, there's not much difference between guys who will go in the teens and guys who will go 15-20 picks later.
If one of the 4 QBs fall, someone will want in. Big if.
That’s also why I’d be willing to move down, even if it’s just worth a 3rd or 4th. Either way, it’s a great day for the Packers organization
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The conditional SHOULD be a 1st round pick next year.
Yes. The return was better than I expected.
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Gutekunst is saying it's "not finalized" due to "paperwork," which my guess is that Rodgers has to sign an amended contract to lesson the cap hit.
To me, this was always the bigger story than the draft compensation. What the financial impact is for both teams this year and next is more interesting.
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https://twitter.com/byryanwood/status/1650604401071890442?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Yes. The return was better than I expected.
Agreed. It all seemed to come down to two 2nds or a 1st and a 2nd. Playing 65% of the snaps seems a pretty low bar for converting that pick into a first
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Agreed. It all seemed to come down to two 2nds or a 1st and a 2nd. Playing 65% of the snaps seems a pretty low bar for converting that pick into a first
He’ll probably retire in October and start a podcast
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The Packers can’t move any of the $40.3 million dead cap with this move, they’ll have to eat all of it in 2023. Effectively, after accounting for draft picks and practice squad, the Packers net cap is negative $1 million (as of now) heading into the season. Obviously will have to get creative.
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Didn't get enough, aina?
I agree with this analysis
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...and the Jets will be just as terrible as they always have been.
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IMHO, the Packers get a B- on this deal. Should have moved him a year earlier and could have managed the cap better. Still a decent draft capital return for a top 10 QB but with a limited career left.
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Looks like Packers are off the hook for Contract of Rodgers from a monetary perspective . I guess the dead cap hit is still there .
https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-picking-aaron-rodgers-58-124406238.html
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Looks like Packers are off the hook for Contract of Rodgers from a monetary perspective . I guess the dead cap hit is still there .
https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-picking-aaron-rodgers-58-124406238.html
Not sure why that needed an article. An "expected" "formality" for a Jets player.
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Packers to win the North at +500 are nice odds. Definitely some Ewing Theory potential, and the division feels still pretty open.
🤔
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Rodgers arrives at Jets facility. Hope he does well enough to get 65 percent of snaps this coming season. Would help the packers cause if that 2024 second turns into a first
https://sports.yahoo.com/watch-aaron-rodgers-arrives-jets-135548762.html
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Rodgers arrives at Jets facility. Hope he does well enough to get 65 percent of snaps this coming season. Would help the packers cause if that 2024 second turns into a first
https://sports.yahoo.com/watch-aaron-rodgers-arrives-jets-135548762.html
Whether he plays well enough or not doesn't matter. An injury is the only thing that keeps GB from getting the 1st round pick.
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Whether he plays well enough or not doesn't matter. An injury is the only thing that keeps GB from getting the 1st round pick.
Well it kinda does because if he plays 65% but plays terrible we get a better spot. Question is if he gets benched to save the 1 if he plays like @$$.
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The Packers can’t move any of the $40.3 million dead cap with this move, they’ll have to eat all of it in 2023. Effectively, after accounting for draft picks and practice squad, the Packers net cap is negative $1 million (as of now) heading into the season. Obviously will have to get creative.
Apparently not.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/26/packers-get-short-term-cap-relief-with-minor-adjustment-to-aaron-rodgerss-contract/
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Well it kinda does because if he plays 65% but plays terrible we get a better spot. Question is if he gets benched to save the 1 if he plays like @$$.
Hopefully, he quits on the Jets like quit on the Packers last year
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From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.
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Packers to win the North at +500 are nice odds. Definitely some Ewing Theory potential, and the division feels still pretty open.
🤔
Grabbed it
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From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.
I don't think that is at all the consensus.
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From reading Scoop, it appears that most of the GB fans here think Love's not very good. Curious how many also thought Rodgers wasn't very good back in 2006 and 2007.
Nobody thought Rodgers was good until his game against the Cowboys on a Thursday night in 2007. He was not good in camp, preseason or limited action his first two seasons. He was slow and injury-prone. It clicked for him after that. He was good in camp and preseason in 2007. A completely different player
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I don't think that is at all the consensus.
OK. Maybe the haters are just louder, or maybe I just haven't read the thread right.
Anyway, did you expect Rodgers to be a star after sitting on the bench for 3 years? Did you expect him to suck? Did you not know what to expect?
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OK. Maybe the haters are just louder, or maybe I just haven't read the thread right.
Anyway, did you expect Rodgers to be a star after sitting on the bench for 3 years? Did you expect him to suck? Did you not know what to expect?
I was very excited when he was drafted. I didn't know what we had at the time, but who could have. Brett was getting old, and you don't see a top 2 pick slide to the 20s very often unless there are major red flags.
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What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?
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Time will tell.
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I was letdown at the time, but understand it. I think at that point, Rodgers’ contract was very easy to get away from over the next few years, and his performance was dropping.
I think the plan was to have Love behind him and move on for the 2022 season. Then Rodgers won MVP twice and the team had great years and the next contract was very favorable to Rodgers.
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What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?
He's not the second coming of Mahomes YET
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I was letdown at the time, but understand it. I think at that point, Rodgers’ contract was very easy to get away from over the next few years, and his performance was dropping.
I think the plan was to have Love behind him and move on for the 2022 season. Then Rodgers won MVP twice and the team had great years and the next contract was very favorable to Rodgers.
Agreed on all. Given how Rodgers has consistently shown he needs to feel disrespected to feel motivated, I think the Packers got good value from Love if he never plays a down.
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What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?
Because Rodgers wasn’t good in 2019 and was showing signs of decline. It was his third straight sub-100 QB rating and he was going to be 37.
He was also beginning his diva song and dance BS. He turned it around in ‘20 and ‘21 and was incredible. The idea of drafting a QB in 2020 was no different that taking a QB in the first round in 2005
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Apparently not.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/26/packers-get-short-term-cap-relief-with-minor-adjustment-to-aaron-rodgerss-contract/
Rodger's dead cap hit didn't change by one cent with the "restructuring". His dead cap for Green Bay is still $40.3 million, and Green Bay will carry that entire hit for all of the 2023 season. All this move does is impact 2024, where the restructuring means the Packers won't take a hit next season. Technically speaking, GB declined the 2023 option, and all three sides agreed to a new contract that "saved" GB $14 M in 2023 (that they were probably never going to pay anyway).
Before the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $31.6 M for 2023
After the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $40.3 M for 2023, $0 thereafter
Net net: Trading Rodgers now gave GB a net -$9 M cap hit this season, nothing moving forward
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Rodger's dead cap hit didn't change by one cent with the "restructuring". His dead cap for Green Bay is still $40.3 million, and Green Bay will carry that entire hit for all of the 2023 season. All this move does is impact 2024, where the restructuring means the Packers won't take a hit next season. Technically speaking, GB declined the 2023 option, and all three sides agreed to a new contract that "saved" GB $14 M in 2023 (that they were probably never going to pay anyway).
Before the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $31.6 M for 2023
After the trade: Rodgers GB cap hit $40.3 M for 2023, $0 thereafter
Net net: Trading Rodgers now gave GB a net -$9 M cap hit this season, nothing moving forward
Yup and that is a big W
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Yup and that is a big W
It is a big win for GB for 2024, they were up against the projected ceiling for 2024 before this move. For the Jets, it'll allow them to reasonably work Rodgers in for 2024 (if he plays). The Jets real problem would be 2025/2026.
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OK then I am not understanding when the PFT link says this:
"The contract has a $58.3 million option bonus, which converts to base salary if not exercised by Week One. The Packers had been carrying this year’s allocation of the bonus — $14.575 million — along with his base salary for 2023. In a revision to the contract, the exercise window was shifted to erase the $14.575 million cap charge.
The alternative would have been to pick up the credit in 2024. The new deal allowed the Packers to get the benefit of the reduction now.
That reduces the cap charge from $37.4 million to $22.825 million, and it clears Rodgers from the books in 2023."
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OK then I am not understanding when the PFT link says this:
"The contract has a $58.3 million option bonus, which converts to base salary if not exercised by Week One. The Packers had been carrying this year’s allocation of the bonus — $14.575 million — along with his base salary for 2023. In a revision to the contract, the exercise window was shifted to erase the $14.575 million cap charge.
The alternative would have been to pick up the credit in 2024. The new deal allowed the Packers to get the benefit of the reduction now.
That reduces the cap charge from $37.4 million to $22.825 million, and it clears Rodgers from the books in 2023."
That’s PFT’s long winded way of saying the Packers declined to pick up his yearly $14.75 option bonus (that unless Rodgers eff’d them over, they were never going to pay anyway). It means Green Bay no longer has a commitment to that bonus going forward.
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Rodgers said the Jets’ didn’t bring him in to be their savior.
Well, actually, they did.
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Because Rodgers wasn’t good in 2019 and was showing signs of decline. It was his third straight sub-100 QB rating and he was going to be 37.
He was also beginning his diva song and dance BS. He turned it around in ‘20 and ‘21 and was incredible. The idea of drafting a QB in 2020 was no different that taking a QB in the first round in 2005
Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?
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Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?
So? What was Josh Allen?
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Fine, but why Love? Dude was nothing special and was an interception machine, aina?
Not like there were any other good QBs available to them.
(https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_mobile/eagles/zgctjxgadbzgfipscw6l.png)
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Lamar Jackson can be had for a price.
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So? What was Josh Allen?
In his final college season, Allen threw six INTs on 270 attempts, or one per 45 attempts.
Love, in his final college season, threw 17 INTs on 293 attempts, or one per 17 attempts.
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In his final college season, Allen threw six INTs on 270 attempts, or one per 45 attempts.
Love, in his final college season, threw 17 INTs on 293 attempts, or one per 17 attempts.
Ok, bad comp, lol. There were a lot of concerns about Allen’s completion percentage coming out and Love was really good as a sophomore with a new coach (Gary Andersen) his junior year
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Ok, bad comp, lol. There were a lot of concerns about Allen’s completion percentage coming out and Love was really good as a sophomore with a new coach (Gary Andersen) his junior year
To be fair, Allen threw 15 picks in his second season at Wyoming. And accuracy was an issue.
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See Rodgers new hair cut? Cleaning it up for the east coast media or what the hell.
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What was the rush to move up and select Love? Its not like he's the second coming of Mahomes. I'll be surprised if he's any more than pedestrian and would peddle his ass right now for a pigskin and a kickin' tee, hey?
I agree with this analysis
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As it currently stands, AR's cap hit in 2024 will be $107.5mm.
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Packers needed a Tight End . Can’t go wrong with a good edge rusher . Maybe the second round picks will yield some TE
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you ain't wrong here hermie, but they need a quarterback to throw to him first, unless you mean from a blocking standpoint :(
the packers always seemed to draft somewhat antithetical to what most thought to be CW.
the packers should blow up their little "ownership committee" and form something that can be held a little bit more accountable. murphy and gutekunst need to go. going back to the favre days, we should have won no less than 4 superbowls between the 2 qb's...NO LESS-the town should be running with pitchforks and fire the way they hold this team in importance of their day to day functions
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you ain't wrong here hermie, but they need a quarterback to throw to him first, unless you mean from a blocking standpoint :(
the packers always seemed to draft somewhat antithetical to what most thought to be CW.
the packers should blow up their little "ownership committee" and form something that can be held a little bit more accountable. murphy and gutekunst need to go. going back to the favre days, we should have won no less than 4 superbowls between the 2 qb's...NO LESS-the town should be running with pitchforks and fire the way they hold this team in importance of their day to day functions
Van Ness was connected with the Packers for most of the draft process, so there was nothing unconventional about the pick. Edge rusher was a spot they needed to add depth to with Gary coming off his injury and possibly leaving after 2023.
The Packers would have won more Super Bowls had the Ol’ Dongslinger didn’t fire inexplicable interceptions all over the field and 12 choke like a dog in the playoffs
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you ain't wrong here hermie, but they need a quarterback to throw to him first, unless you mean from a blocking standpoint :(
the packers always seemed to draft somewhat antithetical to what most thought to be CW.
the packers should blow up their little "ownership committee" and form something that can be held a little bit more accountable. murphy and gutekunst need to go. going back to the favre days, we should have won no less than 4 superbowls between the 2 qb's...NO LESS-the town should be running with pitchforks and fire the way they hold this team in importance of their day to day functions
What do you mean by "ownership committee?" Gutekunst has complete control of the draft and Murphy has complete control over the business operation. They have an executive committee that oversees them from a governance point of view, but there are very clear lines of responsibility.
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well, here's hoping there are good tight ends and wide receivers available from here on for a couple of rounds unless they have something cooking via trades or free agency
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well, here's hoping there are good tight ends and wide receivers available from here on for a couple of rounds unless they have something cooking via trades or free agency
Did you watch the draft? Did you see how Kincaid fell?
Do you know who Mayer, Schoonmaker, Musgrave and Washington are?
They should run some veer offense, too
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What do you mean by "ownership committee?" Gutekunst has complete control of the draft and Murphy has complete control over the business operation. They have an executive committee that oversees them from a governance point of view, but there are very clear lines of responsibility.
too many chefs in the kitchen. although it has kinda worked for the past 100 years i guess, but i see stagnation on the horizon. they have too many people needed to make the "big decisions".
this article from nbc sports mike florio back in 2016 couldn't have stated my point any better-
"Sure, the coach can fire any of his assistants and the G.M. can fire the coach and the CEO can fire the G.M. and the executive committee can fire the CEO and the board of directors can supplant the executive committee, but those powers take a back seat to corporate politics that become much harder to navigate when there isn’t one person who can say without fear of resentment or repercussion or revenge that change is happening. Despite the neat and tidy characterization, the five layers don’t operate as bright lines; if the coach wants to fire one or more members of his staff, he’d better be sure the G.M. is on board with it. If the G.M. wants to fire the coach, he’d better be sure the CEO is on board with it. And if the CEO wants to fire the G.M., he’d better be sure the executive committee is on board with it. And if any members of the executive committee want to fire the CEO, they’d better be sure to get enough members of the board of directors on board with it."
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Did you watch the draft? Did you see how Kincaid fell?
Do you know who Mayer, Schoonmaker, Musgrave and Washington are?
They should run some veer offense, too
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Well, since the Packers don't have an owner, and are a not-for-profit corporation, they have to have a Board of Directors. But the Board really doesn't actually do much. They vote on a few things that are required by the by-laws, go to a couple of meetings a year when they see some presentations, and travel on the road a couple games a year.
The Executive Committee oversees governance issues and hires and evaluates the President. But Mark Murphy runs the organization. There is no doubt about that. He defers football related decisions to Gutekunst. This is the same way the Packers have been run since Bob Harlan took over as President and hired Ron Wolf as GM. This isn't like the Bart Starr era when the chair of the board was the de facto President and got overly involved in football operations.
The Executive Committee or Mark Murphy aren't making football personnel decisions. And if Mark Murphy wants to fire Gutey, he can do it tomorrow. Would he have to clear it with the Executive Committee? Sure. But they would certainly let him. But honestly, Mark Murphy likes him and thinks he is doing a good job. And the Executive Committee and the Board LOVE Mark Murphy - as they should. The organization is making more money than ever, especially though their non-football related operations. And the performance on the field has been fine.
And none of that has anything to do with who they drafted. Do you really want an owner micro-managing that process?
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Well, since the Packers don't have an owner, and are a not-for-profit corporation, they have to have a Board of Directors. But the Board really doesn't actually do much. They vote on a few things that are required by the by-laws, go to a couple of meetings a year when they see some presentations, and travel on the road a couple games a year.
The Executive Committee oversees governance issues and hires and evaluates the President. But Mark Murphy runs the organization. There is no doubt about that. He defers football related decisions to Gutekunst. This is the same way the Packers have been run since Bob Harlan took over as President and hired Ron Wolf as GM. This isn't like the Bart Starr era when the chair of the board was the de facto President and got overly involved in football operations.
The Executive Committee or Mark Murphy aren't making football personnel decisions. And if Mark Murphy wants to fire Gutey, he can do it tomorrow. Would he have to clear it with the Executive Committee? Sure. But they would certainly let him.
murphy is the one who needs to go
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murphy is the one who needs to go
No idea why you think that. The organization is run extremely well.
And you will get your wish because he turns 70 in 2025, which is the Packers mandatory retirement age.
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No idea why you think that. The organization is run extremely well.
And you will get your wish because he turns 70 in 2025, which is the Packers mandatory retirement age.
They should make that a rule for dentists... or scoopers!
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murphy is the one who needs to go
I agree with this analysis
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I agree with this analysis
You don’t like the incredible financial growth and development under Murphy? Huh
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You don’t like the incredible financial growth and development under Murphy? Huh
It does kind of beg the question of how one measures success.
For example, many of my friends Bears fans and Packers fans alike have been dragging Rodgers as a failure for only winning one Superbowl, considering him a "failure." On the other hand, I had a lot of fun watching him play while he was in GB, I enjoyed the games more often than I didn't, and while it would have been more fun to win more Superbowls, it's hard for me to consider that a "failure."
In this context, my friends measure of success was "championship" while mine was "enjoyed good football and had a lot of fun as a fan."
To that end, how do we measure success of Murphy/GBPackers Org? Make lots of money? Build fancy redevelopments in Green Bay? Win football games? Win NFC North? Win playoff games? Win Superbowls? I think how you answer that will define where you fall on the Mark Murphy issue.
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It does kind of beg the question of how one measures success.
For example, many of my friends Bears fans and Packers fans alike have been dragging Rodgers as a failure for only winning one Superbowl, considering him a "failure." On the other hand, I had a lot of fun watching him play while he was in GB, I enjoyed the games more often than I didn't, and while it would have been more fun to win more Superbowls, it's hard for me to consider that a "failure."
In this context, my friends measure of success was "championship" while mine was "enjoyed good football and had a lot of fun as a fan."
To that end, how do we measure success of Murphy/GBPackers Org? Make lots of money? Build fancy redevelopments in Green Bay? Win football games? Win NFC North? Win playoff games? Win Superbowls? I think how you answer that will define where you fall on the Mark Murphy issue.
I think the criticisms of Murphy and the football operations are fair. They let the QB dictate far too much the last two years to the long term detriment of the team. I’d guess some argue Murphy didn’t do enough to acquiesce the QBs roster desires. There’s an argument for both, which is a symptom of the problems that have plagued them the last few years.
As far as Murphy the businessman, he’s done far more good than bad. People are still piling into Lambeau all year long and will for a variety of reasons moving forward.
I argue he failed the organization by not letting the front office handle roster and coaching issues by allowing the QB too much power.
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It does kind of beg the question of how one measures success.
For example, many of my friends Bears fans and Packers fans alike have been dragging Rodgers as a failure for only winning one Superbowl, considering him a "failure." On the other hand, I had a lot of fun watching him play while he was in GB, I enjoyed the games more often than I didn't, and while it would have been more fun to win more Superbowls, it's hard for me to consider that a "failure."
In this context, my friends measure of success was "championship" while mine was "enjoyed good football and had a lot of fun as a fan."
To that end, how do we measure success of Murphy/GBPackers Org? Make lots of money? Build fancy redevelopments in Green Bay? Win football games? Win NFC North? Win playoff games? Win Superbowls? I think how you answer that will define where you fall on the Mark Murphy issue.
It’s interesting because this is pretty much the Giannis press conference answer that has gone viral about disputing this season was a failure.
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I think the criticisms of Murphy and the football operations are fair. They let the QB dictate far too much the last two years to the long term detriment of the team. I’d guess some argue Murphy didn’t do enough to acquiesce the QBs roster desires. There’s an argument for both, which is a symptom of the problems that have plagued them the last few years.
As far as Murphy the businessman, he’s done far more good than bad. People are still piling into Lambeau all year long and will for a variety of reasons moving forward.
I argue he failed the organization by not letting the front office handle roster and coaching issues by allowing the QB too much power.
I think Mark Murphy made two mistakes with regards to the football operation. First was hanging on to Ted Thompson for too long. Second was, as you mention, letting the quarterback situation get out of hand.
But it would be hard to argue that the football product hasn't been been successful during his tenure. They won a Super Bowl. Sure they lost four conference championships since then, but getting that far, and winning eight division titles in the process isn't failrue. Is it as good as it could have been? No, but it would be hard to define Murphy's tenure as unsuccessful on the football field.
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I think Mark Murphy made two mistakes with regards to the football operation. First was hanging on to Ted Thompson for too long. Second was, as you mention, letting the quarterback situation get out of hand.
But it would be hard to argue that the football product hasn't been been successful during his tenure. They won a Super Bowl. Sure they lost four conference championships since then, but getting that far, and winning eight division titles in the process isn't failrue. Is it as good as it could have been? No, but it would be hard to define Murphy's tenure as unsuccessful on the football field.
All valid points. The fire Murphy stuff revolves largely from people that don’t like Jordan Love and not going “all-in”
The Thompson criticism isn’t something I thought of. That’s definitely a strike against him
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It does kind of beg the question of how one measures success.
For example, many of my friends Bears fans and Packers fans alike have been dragging Rodgers as a failure for only winning one Superbowl, considering him a "failure." On the other hand, I had a lot of fun watching him play while he was in GB, I enjoyed the games more often than I didn't, and while it would have been more fun to win more Superbowls, it's hard for me to consider that a "failure."
In this context, my friends measure of success was "championship" while mine was "enjoyed good football and had a lot of fun as a fan."
To that end, how do we measure success of Murphy/GBPackers Org? Make lots of money? Build fancy redevelopments in Green Bay? Win football games? Win NFC North? Win playoff games? Win Superbowls? I think how you answer that will define where you fall on the Mark Murphy issue.
Has Mark Murphy raised any elite PBP announcer offspring while running the front office in Green Bay? No, then he's a profound failure, thats the key success KPI for a Packer's president.
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ok, had to get a round of golf in while the weather was decent-
just because, the stands are full, they've been entertaining, the stadium has been renovated, new player hall of fame, restaurants, improved fan experience, we have been to 3 super bowls over the past 26 years coupled with additional playoff appearances with varying amounts of success or failure... etc etc does not tell near the whole story. i could go on and on about all the good things the packers have provided, including that they've kept the team in green bay, whatever...
with the quarterbacks they've had plus an array of other talent, the packer organization failed its fans immensely. when you have 2 hall of fame quarterbacks for over 20 years, one expects a little bit more and rightly so. whether it was the gm or the president, i don't care who's fault, but getting the final piece or two or three to get to the super bowl a few more times should have been priority #1. your average fantasy player probably could have done better
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ok, had to get a round of golf in while the weather was decent-
just because, the stands are full, they've been entertaining, the stadium has been renovated, new player hall of fame, restaurants, improved fan experience, we have been to 3 super bowls over the past 26 years coupled with additional playoff appearances with varying amounts of success or failure... etc etc does not tell near the whole story. i could go on and on about all the good things the packers have provided, including that they've kept the team in green bay, whatever...
with the quarterbacks they've had plus an array of other talent, the packer organization failed its fans immensely. when you have 2 hall of fame quarterbacks for over 20 years, one expects a little bit more and rightly so. whether it was the gm or the president, i don't care who's fault, but getting the final piece or two or three to get to the super bowl a few more times should have been priority #1. your average fantasy player probably could have done better
Fans are idiots
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No. The Packer organization hasn’t “failed immensely.” That’s silly talk.
Has it underperformed? Sure. But failed? Nope.
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Fans are idiots
Amen
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Like the 2nd round picks . Two TE a WR and and more draft choices later
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Like the 2nd road picks . Two TE a WR and an Alabama safety
How could they find a TE in the 2nd round?
Also, they didn’t draft an Alabama safety.
Fans are idiots stands
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A TE named “Tucker Kraft” was bound to be a Packer draft pick.
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How could they find a TE in the 2nd round?
Also, they didn’t draft an Alabama safety.
Fans are idiots stands
Correction noted
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Correction noted
I was in the Packers draft room. Brian Branch has bad body language
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-watch-highlights-luke-musgrave-jayden-reed-tight-end-receiver/
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https://twitter.com/jfeeshan/status/1652105818160939011?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Rashan Gary went and finished school in the off-season
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Nice.
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https://twitter.com/jfeeshan/status/1652105818160939011?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Rashan Gary went and finished school in the off-season
Excellent news for Rashan
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Packers drafted a lot of solid prospects . Was happy to see the volume of Tight Ends and receivers . A speculative attempt to address a need at kicker was also made.
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Packers drafted a lot of solid prospects . Was happy to see the volume of Tight Ends and receivers . Also picking up a strong legged kicker helps.
From NFL.com on Carlson:
Overview
Carlson has made kicks in big moments and appeared to be tracking in a good direction back in 2020. However, he has struggled to establish consistency on mid-range kicks and has been poor on kicks from 50 yards and beyond. He’s had too many kicks blocked during his career and doesn’t sport a booming leg on kickoffs.
Strengths
Brother is an NFL kicker.
Possesses good size and has made kicks in high-pressure situations.
Was 4 of 4 from 40-plus yards in dramatic 2019 Iron Bowl win over Alabama.
Weaknesses
Career make rate of just 71.8 percent.
Struggled to find consistent kickoff depth in 2022.
Made just 5 of 17 field goals from 50-plus yards, going 0 for 4 since 2021.
Highly inconsistent on mid-range kicks.
Slow operation time leads to blocked kicks.
So where do you gather “strong leg” from that
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From NFL.com on Carlson:
Overview
Carlson has made kicks in big moments and appeared to be tracking in a good direction back in 2020. However, he has struggled to establish consistency on mid-range kicks and has been poor on kicks from 50 yards and beyond. He’s had too many kicks blocked during his career and doesn’t sport a booming leg on kickoffs.
Strengths
Brother is an NFL kicker.
Possesses good size and has made kicks in high-pressure situations.
Was 4 of 4 from 40-plus yards in dramatic 2019 Iron Bowl win over Alabama.
Weaknesses
Career make rate of just 71.8 percent.
Struggled to find consistent kickoff depth in 2022.
Made just 5 of 17 field goals from 50-plus yards, going 0 for 4 since 2021.
Highly inconsistent on mid-range kicks.
Slow operation time leads to blocked kicks.
So where do you gather “strong leg” from that
Love that his first/biggest strength has nothing to do with him personally.
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Love that his first/biggest strength has nothing to do with him personally.
Maybe he finds something with the Packers but he hasn’t been good in 3 years and certainly doesn’t have a “strong leg”
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From NFL.com on Carlson:
Overview
Carlson has made kicks in big moments and appeared to be tracking in a good direction back in 2020. However, he has struggled to establish consistency on mid-range kicks and has been poor on kicks from 50 yards and beyond. He’s had too many kicks blocked during his career and doesn’t sport a booming leg on kickoffs.
Strengths
Brother is an NFL kicker.
Possesses good size and has made kicks in high-pressure situations.
Was 4 of 4 from 40-plus yards in dramatic 2019 Iron Bowl win over Alabama.
Weaknesses
Career make rate of just 71.8 percent.
Struggled to find consistent kickoff depth in 2022.
Made just 5 of 17 field goals from 50-plus yards, going 0 for 4 since 2021.
Highly inconsistent on mid-range kicks.
Slow operation time leads to blocked kicks.
So where do you gather “strong leg” from that
Correction Noted.
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seemingly a good draft but holy crap bad picks on the QB and Kicker...
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OK, I'll say it ...
The Packers drafted both Tucker and Carlson.
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Outfoxed the other teams.
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A fair and balanced draft.
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Kind of interested to see how Sean Clifford pans out in Packers Training Camp. Seems like a kid who plays with a lot of heart, decent athleticism . Obviously lacking the arm strength. Sean is a 5th round pick so very likely makes the roster in some way.
https://www.blackshoediaries.com/2023/3/13/23637537/penn-state-nittany-lions-football-2022-player-countdown-sean-clifford-quarterback
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Kind of interested to see how Sean Clifford pans out in Packers Training Camp. Seems like a kid who plays with a lot of heart, decent athleticism . Obviously lacking the arm strength. Sean is a 5th round pick so very likely makes the roster in some way.
https://www.blackshoediaries.com/2023/3/13/23637537/penn-state-nittany-lions-football-2022-player-countdown-sean-clifford-quarterback
They could have signed him as an UDFA after his shift at Arby’s
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OK, I'll say it ...
The Packers drafted both Tucker and Carlson.
Pack going to have some very tan balls this year
(https://images2.imgbox.com/f4/48/qXuIMkQ0_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/qXuIMkQ0)(https://images2.imgbox.com/f4/48/qXuIMkQ0_o.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/qXuIMkQ0)
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I think a lot of these Packers 7th round picks, are guys they wanted to sign as undrafted free agents. Got out in front of other teams by drafting them.
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Packer top brass gives details on each draft pick.
https://www.packers.com/news/here-s-checklist-of-what-this-13-player-draft-class-does-for-packers
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OK, I'll say it ...
The Packers drafted both Tucker and Carlson.
Can't wait to see the first sideline photo of the two standing side-by-side.
EDIT: Not likely unless Tucker Kraft plays with his first name on the back of his jersey. Derp.
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Penn State “moxie”
https://twitter.com/tyhildenbrandt/status/1653774314733174784?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Penn State “moxie”
https://twitter.com/tyhildenbrandt/status/1653774314733174784?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Dammit, I had the link copied and everything...
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Packers half commit to Jordan Love. Love Signs contract extension for less guaranteed money than if Packers committed to 5th year option......
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/03/packers-announce-jordan-loves-contract-extension/
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Packers half commit to Jordan Love. Love Signs contract extension for less guaranteed money than if Packers committed to 5th year option......
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/03/packers-announce-jordan-loves-contract-extension/
After Rodgers flames out and Saleh gets canned, he’d be a nice new DC in GB
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After Rodgers flames out and Saleh gets canned, he’d be a nice new DC in GB
Rodgers already planning on skipping practices. The more things change the more they stay the same.....
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/03/aaron-rodgers-says-hell-be-at-more-than-half-of-the-remaining-offseason-practices/
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Packers strategy for Love and Young Receivers
https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/53247/packers-are-pairing-love-with-young-pass-catchers-to-grow-together?platform=amp
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/10/confident-jordan-love-addresses-media-for-first-time-as-packers-starting-qb/
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Looks like Packers will be opening the season in Chicago and ending it v Chicago at Lambeau. Lots of noon games. No home game til week 3.
At Lions on Thanksgiving. No game on Christmas.
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Looks like Packers will be opening the season in Chicago and ending it v Chicago at Lambeau. Lots of noon games. No home game til week 3.
At Lions on Thanksgiving. No game on Christmas.
I like the Noon games especially later in the year .
Also Packers travel second fewest miles in 2023 season.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/10/packers-to-travel-second-fewest-miles-during-2023-season/
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Looks like Packers will be opening the season in Chicago and ending it v Chicago at Lambeau. Lots of noon games. No home game til week 3.
At Lions on Thanksgiving. No game on Christmas.
Schedule showing the Packers some Love.
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Looks like they don’t get their third home game until the last weekend in October. Jeez…
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What happens when a Packers game is in conflict with the start of deer hunting season?
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What happens when a Packers game is in conflict with the start of deer hunting season?
If it’s a home game, DUI rates skyrocket
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Looks like they don’t get their third home game until the last weekend in October. Jeez…
Not ideal, but from a season ticket holders' standpoint it still beats last year when the Packers were at home for three of their last four, including two in January. Once you substract the 2nd and 5th home games for the old MKE "gold" ticketholders, 2022 was an awful home sched for STHs.
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What happens when a Packers game is in conflict with the start of deer hunting season?
There's either a lot of deer carcasses on the roofs of cars in the Lambeau parking lots or a lot of armed Packer fans on their way to the woods!
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Pack signs Simone Biles husband. A safety. Rodgers out, Simone part of Packer nation, we got the better of that celebrity trade off by a mile.
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Adios #2, hey?
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Adios #2, hey?
We would’ve had a few less problems the past couple years if our kicker could kick the ball into the end zone.
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Adios #2, hey?
I say that every morning.
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Adios #2, hey?
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/dallas-cowboys-reveal-kicker-talks-openly-mention-signing-robbie-gould-mason-crosby-ryan-succop-bones-fassel-brett-maher
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Not a great look for #4.
Favre has portrayed himself as an unknowing and tangential participant in the welfare-embezzlement scheme. But it appears nobody benefited more. Interviews and an analysis of legal filings and records, which include dozens of text conversations—some of which have not previously been public—paint Favre as a ringleader from start to finish.
Favre had promised his alma mater, Southern Miss, that he would build a volleyball facility for his daughter Breleigh’s team there. But he was obsessed with not paying for it himself. So he got Mississippi’s welfare agency to build indoor and beach volleyball facilities for him—using money intended for the poorest people in the nation’s poorest state—and then he kept pushing to get more for a business venture, with the governor often helping him, according to texts from those involved.
“Brett Favre’s repeated demands for this grant money were certainly the driving force” for millions of dollars in illegal transactions, says former U.S. Attorney Brad Pigott, who had been hired by current Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves to independently investigate the scandal—until Pigott started looking at the volleyball deal and Reeves fired him.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/18/brett-favre-mississippi-welfare-scandal-driving-force-daily-cover
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Not a great look for #4.
Favre has portrayed himself as an unknowing and tangential participant in the welfare-embezzlement scheme. But it appears nobody benefited more. Interviews and an analysis of legal filings and records, which include dozens of text conversations—some of which have not previously been public—paint Favre as a ringleader from start to finish.
Favre had promised his alma mater, Southern Miss, that he would build a volleyball facility for his daughter Breleigh’s team there. But he was obsessed with not paying for it himself. So he got Mississippi’s welfare agency to build indoor and beach volleyball facilities for him—using money intended for the poorest people in the nation’s poorest state—and then he kept pushing to get more for a business venture, with the governor often helping him, according to texts from those involved.
“Brett Favre’s repeated demands for this grant money were certainly the driving force” for millions of dollars in illegal transactions, says former U.S. Attorney Brad Pigott, who had been hired by current Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves to independently investigate the scandal—until Pigott started looking at the volleyball deal and Reeves fired him.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/18/brett-favre-mississippi-welfare-scandal-driving-force-daily-cover
Also made some Scoop dentist type comments about trans people on a podcast recently.
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Prison!
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https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/53315/why-packers-rookies-may-mesh-better-with-jordan-love-than-aaron-rodgers?platform=amp
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More blitzes expected against Jordan Love
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/with-love-here-comes-the-blitz
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Packers second year wide receiver getting some attention from coaching staff
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/09/packers-have-high-hopes-for-second-year-wr-samori-toure/?taid=648481f9d4faf00001b55f77&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
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Jordan Love working on hard count
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/09/hard-count-an-emphasis-for-packers-qb-jordan-love-at-end-of-otas/
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Packers Offseason Training went well . Sounds like the team has added speed at several position’s
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-news-offseason-workout-program-recap-2023-jordan-love-lukas-van-ness/
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https://www.foxnews.com/sports/packers-star-makes-bold-statement-jordan-love-takes-aaron-rodgers
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/20/jordan-love-leveraged-middle-of-the-field-during-packers-offseason-program/
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Pro Football Focus says Jones and Dillon best running back duo in NFL. Thats a good foundation for the offense .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/22/pff-sees-aaron-jones-and-a-j-dillon-as-nfls-best-rb-duo/
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Seems like a lot of positives in the Packers off -season workouts. Only thing that could be troublesome is the notion of Jordan Love throwing to the middle of the field . My guess is that is a prescription for interceptions for an inexperienced quarterback
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/10-things-learned-during-packers-offseason-workout-program/
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Seems like a lot of positives in the Packers off -season workouts. Only thing that could be troublesome is the notion of Jordan Love throwing to the middle of the field . My guess is that is a prescription for interceptions for an inexperienced quarterback
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/10-things-learned-during-packers-offseason-workout-program/
The offense is designed to throw the middle of the field to break down the most popular defenses of the day.
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Well Tonto, dat assumes ya got a qb hoo kan make those throws, hey?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/10-best-salary-cap-bargains-for-the-packers-in-2023/
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An interesting analysis
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/all-brett-favre-aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-team-1992-2022-53-man-roster-all-time/
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Aaron Jones qualifies for corn-hole workd championships
https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2023/07/09/green-bay-packers-aaron-jones-cornhole-championship
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AJ Dillon with his new Children's book, Quadzilla Finds His Footing
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/11/packers-rb-a-j-dillon-releases-his-new-childrens-book-at-launch-party/
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Packers 3rd Most superstitious in sports
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/20/packers-fans-rank-as-third-most-superstitious-in-major-pro-sports/
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Packers CEO says it will take at least half a season to find out about Jordan Love. Good news is it isn’t 5 years to judge
https://news.yahoo.com/jordan-love-future-packers-ceo-191949691.html
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I kan save da dude halfa seeson. #10 sucks ass, hey?
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Packers CEO says it will take at least half a season to find out about Jordan Love. Good news is it isn’t 5 years to judge
https://news.yahoo.com/jordan-love-future-packers-ceo-191949691.html
so if we're 0-8 at mid season...then what?? punt?
who...does...#2...work...for...?? who is our backup QB??
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Kaepernick is still available.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/26/packers-keeping-modified-practice-schedule-for-lt-david-bakhtiari-during-training-camp/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/27/packers-wr-christian-watson-knows-how-to-win-in-the-red-zone-impresses-at-thursdays-practice/
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Bakhtiari trusting the process
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/29/packers-lt-david-bakhtiari-feels-good-trusts-process-and-wants-another-all-pro/
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Bakhtiari trusting the process
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/29/packers-lt-david-bakhtiari-feels-good-trusts-process-and-wants-another-all-pro/
I wouldn’t. They kept Rodgers way too long.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/29/observations-and-takeaways-from-packers-fourth-training-camp-practice/
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Bearish report on Jordan Love from this pundit.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10084655-nfl-coach-rips-packers-jordan-love-dont-see-a-natural-smooth-instinctive-player.amp.html
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Shockin', hey?
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Bearish report on Jordan Love from this pundit.
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10084655-nfl-coach-rips-packers-jordan-love-dont-see-a-natural-smooth-instinctive-player.amp.html
Who the hell is Scott Polacek?
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Duh, Mrs. Polacek's son, aina?
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Peyton Manning observed Love in practice
https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/07/31/green-bay-packers-quarterback-jordan-love-meets-peyton-manning-then-impresses-with-deep-passes/70501145007/
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Packers Coach Bullish on Christian Watson
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/31/matt-lafleur-on-christian-watson-one-of-the-most-intelligent-players-ive-been-around/
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Seems like Watson going to be a featured player this season for The Packers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/01/christian-watsons-versatility-in-packers-offense-makes-him-unique/
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Som commentary on Packers as potentially a 5 win team . Not a lot of confidence in Jordan Love
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/colin-cowherd-predicts-jordan-love-packers-will-struggle-in-2023-they-got-no-breaks
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Som commentary on Packers as potentially a 5 win team . Not a lot of confidence in Jordan Love
https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/colin-cowherd-predicts-jordan-love-packers-will-struggle-in-2023-they-got-no-breaks
Good. He said that about Rodgers in 2008
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I thought Josh Meyers was a mistake. There was a much better center from Oklahoma , Creed Humphrey ,available at the time, who has become an All Pro Center for the Chiefs
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/03/packers-looking-for-more-consistency-out-of-josh-myers-in-center-competition/
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I thought Josh Meyers was a mistake. There was a much better center from Oklahoma , Creed Humphrey ,available at the time, who has become an All Pro Center for the Chiefs
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/03/packers-looking-for-more-consistency-out-of-josh-myers-in-center-competition/
I also remember thinking Sam Okey was a mistake over MJ, Darko a mistake over Wade, and Oden over Durant.
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I also remember thinking Sam Okey was a mistake over MJ, Darko a mistake over Wade, and Oden over Durant.
Sam Bowie. Sam Okey was the kid from Cassville who played at UW then transferred to Iowa. He would have been about 8 when MJ was drafted.
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Sam Bowie. Sam Okey was the kid from Cassville who played at UW then transferred to Iowa. He would have been about 8 when MJ was drafted.
Yup you’re right.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/04/packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sits-down-with-nfl-network/
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Sam Bowie. Sam Okey was the kid from Cassville who played at UW then transferred to Iowa. He would have been about 8 when MJ was drafted.
Which makes it even more obvious that MJ should have been drafted before an 8-year old.
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Which makes it even more obvious that MJ should have been drafted before an 8-year old.
Good call. Even 4.5 years away from being born I knew MJ should go ahead of 8 year old Oakey.
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Packers are in a state of denial. Kickers who cant make field goals in practice rarely start to make them during the season
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/04/anders-carlsons-shaky-start-doesnt-yet-concern-patient-packers/
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Packers are in a state of denial. Kickers who cant make field goals in practice rarely start to make them during the season
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/04/anders-carlsons-shaky-start-doesnt-yet-concern-patient-packers/
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/06/packers-rookie-k-anders-carlson-bounces-back-during-family-night/
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Putting all their hopes this season in Carlson is going to be a disaster. Mark it down. He had major accuracy issues at Auburn. Why they’re letting Crosby sit unsigned is stupid, arrogant, and stubborn and will cost them for sure.
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Putting all their hopes this season in Carlson is going to be a disaster. Mark it down. He had major accuracy issues at Auburn. Why they’re letting Crosby sit unsigned is stupid, arrogant, and stubborn and will cost them for sure.
Could be. But you can also pivot at any point.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/04/packers-wont-face-saints-rb-alvin-kamara-in-week-3-due-to-3-game-suspension/
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Could be. But you can also pivot at any point.
I own it now. If I’m wrong, so be it and it will be good for the Packers.
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I own it now. If I’m wrong, so be it and it will be good for the Packers.
Oh, I was referring to the Packers. Crosby is just hanging out there and there's no harm at trying to see if the upside can hit
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Oh, I was referring to the Packers. Crosby is just hanging out there and there's no harm at trying to see if the upside can hit
Gotcha GB W. That’s a good point, it’s a calculated risk. But Crosby probably won’t be on the street much longer is my guess once teams are a game or two into their preseasons and realize their kickers are no good. Hard to find reliable kickers in this league.
I just think they’re playing with fire a little counting on a rookie who had a highly inconsistent college career. I would stow Carlson away on practice squad and let him develop and not expect/hope he’s the guy from day 1.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/06/packers-release-qb-danny-etling-from-90-man-roster/
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Packers PR Machine hyping The Coach and Jordan Love
https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2023/08/07/why-the-packers-are-comfortable-with-jordan-love-as-starting-quarterback
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Discuss https://twitter.com/fox11news/status/1688598603516854279?t=DZCuhDvIfprOORtOnb7nCg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/fox11news/status/1688598603516854279?t=DZCuhDvIfprOORtOnb7nCg&s=19)
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Could be da Fridge, hey?
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Could be da Fridge, hey?
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/6-things-to-know-from-packers-first-unofficial-depth-chart-of-2023/
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Sean Clifford looking like the future of the NFL.
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Alright Gute...time to swallow your pride and get Mason on the line
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/12/rookie-kicker-anders-carlson-fails-to-answer-accuracy-questions-in-preseason-debut/
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https://www.packers.com/news/game-recap-5-takeaways-from-packers-2023-preseason-victory-over-bengals
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Very unfortunate for Tyler Davis
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38179329/source-packers-te-tyler-davis-tears-acl-preseason-opener?platform=amp
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https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2023/08/13/aj-dillon-jordan-love-packers-praise-excited-new-era
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Colin Cowherd on Jordan Love
https://www.si.com/.amp/extra-mustard/2023/08/14/packers-jordan-love-colin-cowherd-game-manager
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Luke Musgrave will be in thr mix a lot this year https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/53531/jordan-love-wants-to-keep-feeding-packers-rookie-te-luke-musgrave?platform=amp
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Ben Brust continues to be the total dick he always is...
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/ (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/)
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/16/watch-jordan-love-hits-christian-watson-for-long-td-pass-during-practice-vs-patriots/
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Ben Brust continues to be the total dick he always is...
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/ (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/)
I blame his substandard education.
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Love has looked solid in 2 preseason games.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/highlighting-3-impressive-plays-from-jordan-loves-td-drive-vs-patriots/
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Ben Brust continues to be the total dick he always is...
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/ (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2023/08/16/espn-radio-host-ben-brust-green-bay-packers-coach-matt-lafleur-sign-aaron-rodgers-jets-jersey/70606394007/)
The guy is a professional small pond troll. Starve him of oxygen. He’s never going to be serious or intelligent on any topic, so unless you want to get triggered or want to see people get mad, he’s got nothing to offer.
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https://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/53551/packers-jordan-love-definitely-ready-for-week-1-regardless-of-preseason-finale?platform=amp
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Packers getting Love more reps
https://www.packers.com/news/packers-qb-jordan-love-to-play-again-in-2023-preseason-finale
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Packers getting Love more reps
https://www.packers.com/news/packers-qb-jordan-love-to-play-again-in-2023-preseason-finale
Look, I don't care how good he might be, he needs reps with his line, his receivers and his backs to function effectively as a unit. That's what pre-season is for.
The Packers have enough concerns without a quarterback who hasn't faced game situations.
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Hoping we are able to start the season a little better on offense than the last two years. Having some preseason reps with the starters will hopefully help that.
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Sean Clifford to be back up quarterback
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/24/matt-lafleur-confirms-rookie-sean-clifford-will-be-packers-backup-qb/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/4-players-who-turned-into-roster-locks-for-packers-during-training-camp/
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Carlson knocking in a long one
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/26/watch-packers-rookie-kicker-anders-carlson-drills-57-yard-field-goal/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/26/preseason-stats-for-packers-qb-jordan-love-in-2023/
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Seems like some players at key positions are grading well in exhibition play
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-preseason-finale-vs-seahawks/
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The Packers were the second team on Jonathan Taylor. Kind of an odd fit. I don’t think RB would be where they’d want to invest money.
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The Packers were the second team on Jonathan Taylor. Kind of an odd fit. I don’t think RB would be where they’d want to invest money.
Taylor is an outstanding running back that could be a difference maker
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Kurt Warner analyzing Jordan Love
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/30/kurt-warner-breaks-down-jordan-loves-preseason-tape/
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The Packers were the second team on Jonathan Taylor. Kind of an odd fit. I don’t think RB would be where they’d want to invest money.
They have extra 1st or 2nd round draft capital next year. Think they were just kicking the tires on him because of that and like Herman said, he’s a difference maker.
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Doesn't seem like there is a lot of smoke there...probably Irsay drumming up interest. The asking price according to reports is absurd if they thought they could get Waddle from the Dolphins.
If he leaves in FA, Colts get a 3rd or 4th in 2025. Give them a similar pick in 2024 instead
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Ben Sims looks like an intriguing TE pick up for depth. Has good speed and experience as blocker.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/31/new-packers-te-ben-sims-brings-added-speed-and-blocking-experience-to-position/
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Aaron Rodgers advice to Jordan Love
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/exclusive-aaron-rodgers-details-advice-to-jordan-love
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Doesn't seem like there is a lot of smoke there...probably Irsay drumming up interest. The asking price according to reports is absurd if they thought they could get Waddle from the Dolphins.
If he leaves in FA, Colts get a 3rd or 4th in 2025. Give them a similar pick in 2024 instead
Bell Part Deux
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Commentary from Rasul Douglas on Justin Fields and DJ Moore
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/05/packers-cb-rasul-douglas-talks-about-challenge-of-defending-justin-fields-and-dj-moore-in-week-1/
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Seems like this is a consistent problem with The Packers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/06/half-of-packers-wrs-dealing-with-hamstring-injuries-to-open-week-1-practice/
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Seems like this is a consistent problem with The Packers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/06/half-of-packers-wrs-dealing-with-hamstring-injuries-to-open-week-1-practice/
It is not Packers specific. Its NFL wide, and most often impacts WRs (and Corners).
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Solid to Excellent Offensive Line
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/06/packers-unofficial-depth-chart-shows-expected-starting-offensive-line-for-week-1/
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Might be rough for the packers Sunday if Doubs and Watson can’t go. OR the loss could be a GREAT RESULT!
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Might be rough for the packers Sunday if Doubs and Watson can’t go. OR the loss could be a GREAT RESULT!
Nice.
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Packers Injury Report.Unfortunate that Watson is out.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/breaking-down-packers-final-injury-report-for-week-1-vs-bears/
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Packers Bears Preview. An excellent video.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=enrHPvZvNQ8&si=Yv_LK4sNjMPxevzU
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The Athletic interviewed Greg Olsen, and here's what he said when asked about the Packers:
The No. 1 question being asked by Packers fans: Is Jordan Love the guy? How would you answer that?
The simplest answer is we’re going to find out very soon. I don’t think anyone has had the chance to study Jordan. He’s had such a limited opportunity to play meaningful games. I think anybody that pretends to know, who is not a part of the Packers organization, is just speculating. I try not to speculate, even though I know it’s our job. The answer I would say is the reports coming out both from the team and the people that follow the Packers closely in the media have been very positive.
The Week 1 opener against Chicago, right or wrong, is going to be a very big indictment or a very big indication of how his career is going to go. Whether that’s fair or not fair, it is the way the media and the fans are going to react. So if he has a great day, the Packers have their third Hall of Fame quarterback in a row. If he struggles a little bit, he’s been a bust in the waiting. I think, unfortunately, those are the two scenarios that we have coming our way.
But if I had to put my guess and speculation — which again, I don’t love doing — I think he’s going to be good. The problem is the shadow of historically great that the Packers are used to for the last 25 years. That’s going to be a high bar to be judged against, but that is the situation that he’s coming into.
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Doesn't seem like there is a lot of smoke there...probably Irsay drumming up interest. The asking price according to reports is absurd if they thought they could get Waddle from the Dolphins.
If he leaves in FA, Colts get a 3rd or 4th in 2025. Give them a similar pick in 2024 instead
Yep. Looking to get Waddle or Watson for a RB you then still have to pay is “you are not serious people” absurdity.
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Beautiful Day at Soldier. Looking for some solid Packer defense today.
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Excellent first drive for Packers.
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Not even remotely a late hit
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Clean.
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The Bears are beyond undisciplined. Inexcusable.
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And their play calling hasn't changed at all under Eberfluus. Dink and dunk b-crap.
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Van Ness showing some speed , excellent play by the Rookie.
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Over/Under on how many games before Fields gets hurt?
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Over/Under on how many games before Fields gets hurt?
Bears line is not good
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The Bears are still 10 years away.
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Love needs to relax a bit. Seems to be putting a lot of pressure on himself and has led to a couple loss of focus mistakes (e.g. time management at the end).
But has shown some flashes of being a high caliber QB.
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Excellent 52 yard FG. Had plenty of distance and right down the middle .
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Both these teams stink. Packers are showing no faith in Love at all.
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Creative play design.
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Imagine using Aaron Jones
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Packers d-line is manhandling the Bears o-line
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Packers just owning the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Manhandling the Bears.
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Me no likey that
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How many 15 yarders are you allowed in one game?
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Obviously haven’t reached the limit
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How many 15 yarders are you allowed in one game?
Yeah too many dumb penalties by the packers today
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Yeah too many dumb penalties by the packers today
Need a long drive here. Quadzilla has been a garbage can
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Need a long drive here. Quadzilla has been a garbage can
He just looks really slow.
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He just looks really slow.
Indeed. That screen had room for him to accelerate into a bigger play.
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Great drive by Love.
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Love 7-9, 129 yards on 3rd or 4th down, perfect passer rating.
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Nice bounce back game for Quay from his last game ;D
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Weren't the Bears favored to win this game?
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Obviously haven’t reached the limit
Still going
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Fields is a helluva running back. Maybe they can turn him into Deebo Samuels.
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Packers O line getting the job done . Love has time to operate .
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Wow Quay Walker . Love this kids talent .
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Rogers was 6-10 his first year as the starting QB.
After today I might take the over with Love in regards to more wins than Rodgers in their first year at the helm. Before today, I would have taken the under. They need to get (Watson), and keep (Jones) their playmakers healthy. That is especially true along the O- and D-lines, which dominated today.
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Rogers was 6-10 his first year as the starting QB.
After today I might take the over with Love in regards to more wins than Rodgers in their first year at the helm. Before today, I would have taken the under. They need to get (Watson), and keep (Jones) their playmakers healthy. That is especially true along the O- and D-lines, which dominated today.
Bears might really suck. But a division road win to start the season is a great start any way you look at it
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Classy move by Fields to get better seats for Loves mom.
Delighted with todays win. Beating your arch rival on the road in a home opener is always excellent
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Happy for Anders Carlson.
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Happy for Anders Carlson.
He was a big and very pleasant surprise. Hope he can be consistent. No question kid has an NFL leg.
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Wow Quay Walker . Love this kids talent .
Hopefully he’s matured. No question he has all the skills to be really good. That was about as impressive an INT return I recall from any linebacker.
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Hopefully he’s matured. No question he has all the skills to be really good. That was about as impressive an INT return I recall from any linebacker.
Sounds like he’s done a lot in the offseason to help control his emotions.
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Sounds like he’s done a lot in the offseason to help control his emotions.
I saw that too. I give him credit because he was accountable for his mistakes last year and made no excuses for them.
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Joe Barry Carroll actually thought Dean Lowery gave GB a better chance to win last year than Wyatt or Slayton.
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Joe Barry Carroll actually thought Dean Lowery gave GB a better chance to win last year than Wyatt or Slayton.
I’m no fan or apologist for Barry, but Wyatt was just a rookie. A year makes a huge difference for many. And while Lowry is limited athletically, he would always make a few plays because he’s always working.
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Sounds like he’s done a lot in the offseason to help control his emotions.
Ayahuasca??
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Postgame Interview
https://www.foxsports.com/watch/play-6a1e6f37300102c
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Hope Quay Walker is not concussed
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/10/highlight-packers-lb-quay-walker-daggers-bears-with-interception-return-td/
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The Bears still suck. Just wonder how bad they suck this year or are the Packers decent?
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I’m no fan or apologist for Barry, but Wyatt was just a rookie. A year makes a huge difference for many. And while Lowry is limited athletically, he would always make a few plays because he’s always working.
A very few plays. Packers run defense was among the worst every year he played.
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The Bears still suck. Just wonder how bad they suck this year or are the Packers decent?
I think their line play will keep them in a lot of games. We will see if their skill players are consistent enough.
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Joe Barry Carroll actually thought Dean Lowery gave GB a better chance to win last year than Wyatt or Slayton.
Why do you keep calling him the name of a former NBA all star who had a decent 10-year career in the league? If it’s meant to be a dig, it’s a pretty poor one.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/7-standouts-from-packers-38-20-win-over-bears/
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Why do you keep calling him the name of a former NBA all star who had a decent 10-year career in the league? If it’s meant to be a dig, it’s a pretty poor one.
Never know what sets you off or why. Always fun to witness, though.
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Ayahuasca??
Actually he started meditating before games and practices with the help of Jaire Alexander. Pretty neat
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Quay Walker in concussion protocol.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/11/packers-lb-quay-walker-suffered-concussion-vs-bears/
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Honestly have high hopes for Quay. Dude has all the physical tools. If he can get his head right he's got a sky high ceiling. Granted, that's a big if. But if he does get his head right that's probably best for him off the field too.
Hope the concussion is a minor one.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/11/packers-qb-jordan-love-attacks-and-finds-success-over-the-middle-of-the-field-vs-bears/
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The Bears still suck. Just wonder how bad they suck this year or are the Packers decent?
Will know more about the Packers after this week's game in Atlanta.
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The scariest part for the Bears?
The Packers were better than Chicago with every single position group. QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, LB, DB. Plus coaching.
ST might have been a push.
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Will know more about the Packers after this week's game in Atlanta.
Given the Packers youth, I think they’ll be pretty inconsistent this year. Need the TE’s to grow up fast. If one of them can become a security blanket for the QB, that would be a plus and take the burden off Aaron Jones as well. Need to get 14-15 weeks out of him
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Packers strong offensive line is a great thing to have with a young quarterback. Gives him time to make the proper reads.
Defensive strength leading to good field position also helps the cause as well.
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The scariest part for the Bears?
The Packers were better than Chicago with every single position group. QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, LB, DB. Plus coaching.
ST might have been a push.
You’re forgetting about AJ Dillon there
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You’re forgetting about AJ Dillon there
Dillon is nothing special. Jones is.
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Will know more about the Packers after this week's game in Atlanta.
The Panthers just lost at Atlanta, so I've seen 60 minutes of Falcons football.
I was quite unimpressed.
Ridder isn't very good, the receivers did little against a decent but hardly studly Carolina defensive backfield, and the Panthers were able to pressure Ridder. Atlanta's two backs are real good, so contain them and the offense is ordinary at best.
They didn't put much pressure on Young; he just threw some dopey rookie passes and missed some receivers, including two who were open deep for what would have been long TD plays (including a 99-yarder). Carolina backs had some big holes to run through.
As with most games, it was decided by turnovers. My team had 3 of them, gifting the Falcons 17 of their 24 points. Avoid those, and I like the Packers' chances a lot.
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The scariest part for the Bears?
The Packers were better than Chicago with every single position group. QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, DL, LB, DB. Plus coaching.
ST might have been a push.
5/5 on extra points, 1/1 on field goals with it being from 52 yards, Nixon had 2 returns and averaged 27.5 yards per kickoff return and Reed had 3 punt returns and averaged 18 yards per return. The Bears averaged 21 yards per return on kickoffs and 8 yards per return on punts. Both kickers had 1 punt inside the 20, while the Bears averaged 53 yards on punts and the Packers averaged 49.8. The Packers had a good day on Special Teams.
Dillon is nothing special. Jones is.
Dillon is just bad.
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5/5 on extra points, 1/1 on field goals with it being from 52 yards, Nixon had 2 returns and averaged 27.5 yards per kickoff return and Reed had 3 punt returns and averaged 18 yards per return. The Bears averaged 21 yards per return on kickoffs and 8 yards per return on punts. Both kickers had 1 punt inside the 20, while the Bears averaged 53 yards on punts and the Packers averaged 49.8. The Packers had a good day on Special Teams.
You’re not wrong. But I think over the course of the season, STs will be pretty close.
The only other positions where the Bears have a chance of being as good over the course of the season are WR and, possibly TE. But, that being sad, I would not trade a single position group on GB for its counterpart on the Bears.
And I think GB will only be a .500 type team. 9-8 or 8-9.
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You’re not wrong. But I think over the course of the season, STs will be pretty close.
The only other positions where the Bears have a chance of being as good over the course of the season are WR and, possibly TE. But, that being sad, I would not trade a single position group on GB for its counterpart on the Bears.
And I think GB will only be a .500 type team. 9-8 or 8-9.
A .500 type team would be an impressive showing for Love.
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A .500 type team would be an impressive showing for Love.
It would.
But my thinking is that finally we will have a solid ‘D’.
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A .500 type team would be an impressive showing for Love.
No one predicted MU would have a BB season like they did last year.
So, just have to let the season unfold and maybe it will be a pleasant surprise.
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No one predicted MU would have a BB season like they did last year.
So, just have to let the season unfold and maybe it will be a pleasant surprise.
Exactly and a few surprise teams every NFL season. Much will depend how good, not good, or in between Love is.
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No one predicted MU would have a BB season like they did last year.
So, just have to let the season unfold and maybe it will be a pleasant surprise.
I have not expectations for this team. Just going to enjoy the season like every other.
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A .500 type team would be an impressive showing for Love.
Disagree. The defense is pretty good and the OL is top notch. The only real question marks are QB and WR.
I think .500 is the floor.
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Rashan Gary had 7 pressures in 10 snaps against the rookie right tackle on pass plays. Two of the pressures helped cause the lost fumble and Walker’s Pick 6.
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Disagree. The defense is pretty good and the OL is top notch. The only real question marks are QB and WR.
I think .500 is the floor.
It was essentially the same D and OL last year (injuries always happen, and will happen again this year), and GB finished 8-9.
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It was essentially the same D and OL last year (injuries always happen, and will happen again this year), and GB finished 8-9.
QB was checked out
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It was essentially the same D and OL last year (injuries always happen, and will happen again this year), and GB finished 8-9.
hopefully another year of experience will improve the defense, it should have been much better last season
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/breaking-down-packers-final-injury-report-of-week-2-vs-falcons/
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Quay Walker clears concussion protocol.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/16/packers-lb-quay-walker-clears-concussion-protocol-will-play-vs-falcons/
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Aaron Jones and Christian Watson are out today
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Falcons secondary is talented . Good Time for young Packer receivers to step up.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/16/falcons-secondary-could-present-huge-challenge-for-packers-young-wrs/
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Bahktiari out today as well
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Ucked fayed, aina?
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Love’s work is definitely cut out for them.
Did the packers intentionally the take the delay of game so they could punt? I don’t understand that at all
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Love’s work is definitely cut out for them.
Did the packers intentionally the take the delay of game so they could punt? I don’t understand that at all
LT for GB just blew two plays in a row for big losses.
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Lol did these announcers really think they were trying to draw the packers offside on the 1 yard line?
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Lol did these announcers really think they were trying to draw the packers offside on the 1 yard line?
Hey that half-yard FG advance could make the difference…
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Bijan Robinson is very shifty.
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LaFleur has been doing a great job as a playcaller keeping Love on schedule.
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LaFleur has been doing a great job as a playcaller keeping Love on schedule.
After a rough first few minutes, he has been outstanding.
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LaFleur has been doing a great job as a playcaller keeping Love on schedule.
Nice having a QB run the offense called and schemed for
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Robinson is special.
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Heckuva QB, 10 is aina?
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Packers young wide receivers having an outstanding game.
Love needs to have a nice long drive now.
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Packers young wide receivers having an outstanding game.
Love needs to have a nice long drive now.
It’s where they miss Aaron. Aaron Jones
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Bad drive by LaFleur. Dillon is washed
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Bad drive by LaFleur. Dillon is washed
Pretty easy to see why they inquired about Taylor.
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Need to come out of the kickoff guns blazing
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Bad loss. No first downs on the last three possessions.
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Bad loss. No first downs on the last three possessions.
Need to move on from Dillon
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Luckily entire division lost this week…could only do so much when your 3 best offensive players are out
Dillon ain’t the guy though.
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Unfortunate game. Snatched defeat from Jaws of Victory . Need to regroup against the Saints.
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Bad loss. No first downs on the last three possessions.
It’s easy to blame the offense, but one again Joe Barry Carroll’s defense had an utter collapse.
450 yards to to Desmond Ritter - led team? The bad offense gave the packers a 12 point lead and the defense buckled completely in tThe 4th.
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Luckily entire division lost this week…could only do so much when your 3 best offensive players are out
Dillon ain’t the guy though.
Arguably 4 best. Bahktiari, Jenkins, Jones, and Watson.
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Jaire is gonna have to play a helluva lot better to back up how much he talks.
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I think #69 Did not want to play on Turf to protect Knee.
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It’s easy to blame the offense, but one again Joe Barry Carroll’s defense had an utter collapse.
450 yards to to Desmond Ritter - led team? The bad offense gave the packers a 12 point lead and the defense buckled completely in tThe 4th.
I think the defense would have performed better had the offense allowed them to rest more. You simply have to at least run time off the clock.
After the Packers scored their final TD in the third quarter, they ran 10 plays for seven yards, zero first downs and ran 3:19 off the clock.
Can’t just blame the defense today.
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So offensive 4th quarter flops are not just a Rodgers thing apparently.
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I think the defense would have performed better had the offense allowed them to rest more. You simply have to at least run time off the clock.
After the Packers scored their final TD in the third quarter, they ran 10 plays for seven yards, zero first downs and ran 3:19 off the clock.
Can’t just blame the defense today.
There were two big misses by Love. 1) He missed Doubs on a wide open crossing route. Through to the other receiver crossing, who wasn't open. 2) On the last possession, Doubs was open deep. There seemed to be miscommunication, but if the ball was thrown to the right spot, they had a TD.
But Dillon has to be able to pick up the 3rd and 1.
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#10 needs experience in the art of closing out games . That will take some time.
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I think the defense would have performed better had the offense allowed them to rest more. You simply have to at least run time off the clock.
After the Packers scored their final TD in the third quarter, they ran 10 plays for seven yards, zero first downs and ran 3:19 off the clock.
Can’t just blame the defense today.
I agree that the offense was terrible in the 4th. But the defense was helpless against the pass and the run.
I put the blame on the coach. Atlanta’s RB, WR, TE combo is as good as any in the NFL. You have to put pressure on the QB. He isn’t as good as GB let him be today.
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Did they ever say why we chose to punt instead of letting the play clock expire on a 51 yard attempt and not try a 56 yard attempt?
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#10 owning up. Good to see him taking responsibility versus throwing someone under the bus .
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/17/packers-qb-jordan-love-takes-blame-for-botched-qb-sneak-during-loss-to-falcons/
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Heckuva QB, 10 is aina?
Peddle his ass for a used, sweaty Bike, hey?
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Peddle his ass for a used, sweaty Bike, hey?
More genitalia-related posting. Sorry he’s played well. At least you have the crime reports
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Schtick.
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Schtick.
🐗🐗
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But my thinking is that finally we will have a solid ‘D’.
I was hoping/thinking that too. Today's game suggested otherwise.
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I was hoping/thinking that too. Today's game suggested otherwise.
Yeah. I was really on the mark with that prediction. :(
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Elgin sprained MCL not helping The Packers Cause
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/17/packers-elgton-jenkins-injury-update-knee-mcl-falcons-week-2-2023/
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Elgin sprained MCL not helping The Packers Cause
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/17/packers-elgton-jenkins-injury-update-knee-mcl-falcons-week-2-2023/
Why you always draft linemen
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Appears Jenkins got hurt by Quadzilla
https://x.com/zachheilprin/status/1703475850404876648?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Also, if Bakhtiari won’t play on turf, they have a serious problem
https://x.com/jumosq/status/1703524783408001463?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Yesterday's Packers/Atlanta game is what happens when you have an inexperienced NFL quarterback playing in a "chips on the table" moment. He'll learn from his mistakes and be better next time.
That penalty on the 51 yard FG attempt may have cost Green Bay the game.
I actually feel good about Green Bay. There are mistakes that need to be fixed but this team is young, energetic and learning.
Thank God they're not the Chicago Bears -- the worst team and possibly the worst organization in the NFL.
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Yesterday's Packers/Atlanta game is what happens when you have an inexperienced NFL quarterback playing in a "chips on the table" moment. He'll learn from his mistakes and be better next time.
That penalty on the 51 yard FG attempt may have cost Green Bay the game.
I actually feel good about Green Bay. There are mistakes that need to be fixed but this team is young, energetic and learning.
Thank God they're not the Chicago Bears -- the worst team and possibly the worst organization in the NFL.
I’m not sure I totally agree. Ridder doesn’t have much more experience. There were some head scratching coaching mistakes, the delay of game on the field goal being a big one.
The big difference was the Falcons could run the ball at will and keep the chains moving. The Packers offense didn’t help their defense by not getting a first down in the fourth.
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Also, if Bakhtiari won’t play on turf, they have a serious problem
https://x.com/jumosq/status/1703524783408001463?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Peddle his ass. They suck anyway, hey?
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Also, if Bakhtiari won’t play on turf, they have a serious problem
https://x.com/jumosq/status/1703524783408001463?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I think he's angling for a departure.
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Peddle his ass. They suck anyway, hey?
The more you say they suck, the more confident Packers should be they’re pretty good
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I think he's angling for a departure.
Packers should jump on that chance if that's the case.
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Packers should jump on that chance if that's the case.
I think he wants to get cut outright - not traded.
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I think he's angling for a departure.
I wish, he's due about $40M next year.
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I think he wants to get cut outright - not traded.
Send to Jets in return Jets second round for 2024 in trade for #12 becomes a first rounder in 2024
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Bakhtiari’s $40M dead cap hit (which would be prorated down) makes him nearly untradeable.
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Where does this fall on the spectrum of future NFL players not playing in meaningless bowl games or college basketball players not playing in the NIT?
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Bakhtiari’s $40M dead cap hit (which would be prorated down) makes him nearly untradeable.
Thanks for that detail.
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Dontayvion was a solid late round pick for The Packers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/20/skys-the-limit-for-packers-rookie-wr-dontayvion-wicks/
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Injury Report
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/breaking-down-packers-final-injury-report-of-week-3-vs-saints/
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NFL.Com Packers Saints Preview
https://youtu.be/IGPm7iNZU5k?si=VTC0K3CZReOuIcYk
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Pack without Jones, Watson, Back and Jaire today. Woof
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Pack without Jones, Watson, Back and Jaire today. Woof
Brutal, giving Love no help. Concerned about putting all the chips on Watson. He’s missed a ton of games so early in his career.
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Packers might need to look at replacing their conditioning coaches. What in the absolute hell
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Great 4th-down play call but the RB completely effed it up.
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Campbell now out too
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Maybe the bears were just really really bad
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Maybe the bears were just really really bad
Yes. And clearly this division is bad.
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Packers have room for improvement
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
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Winston will always give the opposing team a chance.
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Needed to kick the FG on the first possession of the 4Q instead of going on 4th-and-2. It would be 17-6 now, and plenty of time to get a TD, 2pt and FG. Instead, they need two TDs.
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Why?
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Even when it works, I hate the call.
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Packers probably win now.
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Fortunately for the Packers, Jameis Winston is still Jameis Winston.
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
I’m enjoying watching your favorite QB perform superbly down the stretch.
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Ho - Hum.
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Love really stepped up when needed.
Pack probably should be 2-1, just reversing week 2 and 3’s results.
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A wins a win
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
Streak of accurate statements.continues unabated.
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
This was when I knew they’d win
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Packers have room for improvement
Nice improvement 😎
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Skol!!
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Aaron who?
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Aaron who?
Up and down day for Jordan, but he battled and didn’t lose his composure.
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This was when I knew they’d win
Carr going out was an incredible break for the Packers.
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Carr going out was an incredible break for for the Packers.
Winston was ok. Defense only gave up 10 in the first half. And the Saints first TD drive was 56 yards after the botched 4th down.
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Carr BREAKING DOWN was an incredible break for the Packers.
Fify
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This was when I knew they’d win
Well, as Yogi famously said: It ain't over if the dentist says it's over.
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Utterly amazing to beat a probable playoff team when your best offensive player is Zach Tom.
(I don’t know where to rank Love yet.)
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(I don’t know where to rank Love yet.)
Just behind a nice mutton, lettuce, and tomato sandwich.
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Jordan slinging the ball was reminiscent of Farve.
Great game Pack!
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Pack sucks major ass, hey?
that was miserable, figured a good time to go visit dad when we were down 17-0 starting the 4th qtr. get to his place and he's jumpin up and down(in his head) like the lombardi days. i'm thinkin he's on different meds and they changed his stool softener...until i saw the score on his tv!?!
he wants to watch the 4th qtr again-anyone know where to look online for that?
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Wish they could have dumped Bakthari in the rodgers trade. Dude is $40M of useless cap space.
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Utterly amazing to beat a probable playoff team when your best offensive player is Zach Tom.
(I don’t know where to rank Love yet.)
I like Zach Tom too, but come on…
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Brutal, giving Love no help. Concerned about putting all the chips on Watson. He’s missed a ton of games so early in his career.
Watson’s durability is a major concern.
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I like Zach Tom too, but come on…
What starter today is better?
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Extended Highlights in case anyone missed the game
https://youtu.be/do6I3xL5jWQ?si=JuHgkkvHHSJd_gD6
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Jordan Love Press Conference Post Saints Win.
https://youtu.be/ps4JIhJAG3Y?si=Kv7OdSdm2CGR56OS
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Even when it works, I hate the call.
Was this after the 2 pt conversion?
Just came here to say good on LaFleur for playing the numbers, haha. Watching live, it felt like a dubious choice, which makes it all the more impressive he just listened to the math.
I completely understand that the first 50 mins or so of yesterday's game left a lot to be desired, but the more Packers I watch in real time, the more I like LaFleur as a coach independent of Rodgers.
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Was this after the 2 pt conversion?
Just came here to say good on LaFleur for playing the numbers, haha. Watching live, it felt like a dubious choice, which makes it all the more impressive he just listened to the math.
I completely understand that the first 50 mins or so of yesterday's game left a lot to be desired, but the more Packers I watch in real time, the more I like LaFleur as a coach independent of Rodgers.
Article on the analytics involved with going for two.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28100383/going-2-8-points-why-nfl-teams-keep-doing-why-analytics-backs-up
My thoughts about the Packers after three games:
**Love is clearly "good." Hopefully he can evolve with more experience and getting his top receiver back.
**Without Watson, the receiving corps isn't great. Reed looks like he has potential and Doubs is decent, but the rest of them are pretty meh.
**Aaron Jones is special. The rest of the running backs are replacement level.
**Still not all that excited about the defense. But Rashan Gary is going to get paid. He has been incredible all season.
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And so it is decreed, aina?
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Was this after the 2 pt conversion?
Just came here to say good on LaFleur for playing the numbers, haha. Watching live, it felt like a dubious choice, which makes it all the more impressive he just listened to the math.
I completely understand that the first 50 mins or so of yesterday's game left a lot to be desired, but the more Packers I watch in real time, the more I like LaFleur as a coach independent of Rodgers.
Yes.
I understand that the odds favor it. My issue is doing it with a young, inexperienced, QB.
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Article on the analytics involved with going for two.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28100383/going-2-8-points-why-nfl-teams-keep-doing-why-analytics-backs-up
My thoughts about the Packers after three games:
**Love is clearly "good." Hopefully he can evolve with more experience and getting his top receiver back.
**Without Watson, the receiving corps isn't great. Reed looks like he has potential and Doubs is decent, but the rest of them are pretty meh.
**Aaron Jones is special. The rest of the running backs are replacement level.
**Still not all that excited about the defense. But Rashan Gary is going to get paid. He has been incredible all season.
Love needs to improve accuracy. Musgrave is going to be the Packers best TE since Finley. If those two can work on timing, he’ll be a weapon by the end of the season
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Love needs to improve accuracy. Musgrave is going to be the Packers best TE since Finley. If those two can work on timing, he’ll be a weapon by the end of the season
Not saying he doesn’t need to work on accuracy, which he definitely does. However, I don’t think all the errant throws to Musgrave are accuracy issues. I think some of it is they are reading the defense a little differently and Love is throwing it where he expects Musgrave to be.
Kind of similar to the 4th down throw to Taylor.
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Love needs to improve accuracy. Musgrave is going to be the Packers best TE since Finley. If those two can work on timing, he’ll be a weapon by the end of the season
Agreed on Love, but also agree with Sultan that he's good. His pocket presence looks great - he goes through his progressions and has good sense when to take off. His footwork seems good. With Lattimore on Doubs much of the day, Musgrave was the only player able to create any meaningful mismatches yesterday - so I imagine that chemistry will evolve more and more as the season goes on.
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Not saying he doesn’t need to work on accuracy, which he definitely does. However, I don’t think all the errant throws to Musgrave are accuracy issues. I think some of it is they are reading the defense a little differently and Love is throwing it where he expects Musgrave to be.
Yeah the big miss to Musgrave looked like Love was expecting him to turn upfield - and he didn't. Not sure whose "fault" that is.
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Yeah the big miss to Musgrave looked like Love was expecting him to turn upfield - and he didn't. Not sure whose "fault" that is.
Timing and experience issue. Need game reps between the two.
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He's missing some throws he ought to make. He's making great throws too. He's making mostly good decisions and reads. Only one INT. Showed guts in the 4th quarter against NO after fading against ATL. Missing weapons and still making things happen. I'm certainly not going to crown him, nor am I going to excuse the misses. But I think if you're being honest and not either a fanboy or a GB hater, the assessment of Love after 3 weeks is that he looks like he could be pretty good and seems unlikely to be terrible.
I think he grows into better chemistry with his skill position players, calms down/slows down and makes some of the throws he's missed so far and ends up being somewhere in the "pretty good" tier of quarterbacks. We'll see.
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He never gets that panic look that guys like Fields and Zach Wilson get in the pocket.
My thought before the season was that his ceiling was somewhere in the Ryan Tannyhill area. I'm still there, but I see the possibility that if he improves his accuracy, he could surpass that.
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And so it is decreed, aina?
Much better to decree that he is garbage and his azz needs to be traded for a box of Cheerios.
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Nah, a used, sweaty Bike, hey?
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Much better to decree that he is garbage and his azz needs to be traded for a box of Cheerios.
I put some cash on Love pro bowl after reading Doc’s posts. Feeling good about it
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/lists/packers-teammates-discuss-jordan-loves-performance-in-comeback-win-over-saints/
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I put some cash on Love pro bowl after reading Doc’s posts. Feeling good about it
We'd really have been bazillionaires if we had bet on the Bucks to win the 2021 NBA title after Doc started saying they should trade Giannis' azz and fire everybody.
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Thursday night game versus Lions
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/26/packers-struggling-run-game-faces-very-disruptive-lions-run-defense/
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Sounds like Jones will play and decent shot for Watson
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Good news for Packers Offense
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/28/packers-aaron-jones-christian-watson-both-expected-to-play-vs-lions/
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Will GB go the entire quarter without running the ball?
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Will GB go the entire quarter without running the ball?
After that first series, Packers defense has regressed badly
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8 first round picks on that defense, huh?
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Shades of Randy Moss dancing all over Lambeau on a Monday night in 1998
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This is a typical Joe Barry Carroll defense. He was terrible before GB and he’s been beyond terrible in GB.
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An earlier bedtime isn’t necessarily the worst thing in the world.
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This is a typical Joe Barry Carroll defense. He was terrible before GB and he’s been beyond terrible in GB.
Seriously not sure what the game plan is on either side of the ball. Mismatch between staffs thus far
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Pretty sure the Lions will hang 70+ on MLF's ass, hey?
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Pretty sure the Lions will hang 70+ on MLF's ass, hey?
70? Might be 80
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Aaron Jones hasn’t touched the ball once.
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Things are not going particularly well for the team in Green Bay.
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The corpse of Bobby Layne could have gotten into end zone on that play
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The corpse of Bobby Layne could have gotten into end zone on that play
Both of his touchdowns would’ve been untouched had Montgomery not run right into his lineman.
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Both of his touchdowns would’ve been untouched had Montgomery not run right into his lineman.
Terrible gap control and just manhandled
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Jones touched it! Happy now, hey?
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Imagine how bad you must be if you are the Chicago Bears.
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Horrible blocking, no separation for receivers, and Love’s been bad.
But at least the GB defense sucks, too.
Plus, the Lions have some nice talent.
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Another terrible play calling sequence. Option play? And that was flat out bad decision by Love to try getting that to Watson. Nothing there
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There’s nothing dumber than watch 5 dudes try to pick a free football off the ground.
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Dumb chits nearly gave the ball away on a punt that never should have been fielded, hey?
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FIRST DOWN!
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If Mahomes made that play to avoid the safety it’d be the greatest play of all time.
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What an ass kicking, lol
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The balance of power in the NFC North has officially shifted, hey?
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Yeah. I’d be good with Gutes never getting to draft another player for the Packers.
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The balance of power in the NFC North has officially shifted, hey?
Tower just shuddered in fear
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Luckily the crowd is all lions fans so Gute won’t know how they feel
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.8 yards/play ain't gonna get it, hey?
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Why would the Lions pass the ball again tonight?
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.8 yards/play ain't gonna get it, hey?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/197310280det.htm
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Just ta rub da Pack's faces in dung, hey?
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Probably one of the most pathetic halves in packers history.
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Probably one of the most pathetic halves in packers history.
Honestly, trying a 70-yard fg was a better option. No way the line could protect for a Hail Mary
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O line is embarrassing.
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Horrible blocking, no separation for receivers, and Love’s been bad.
But at least the GB defense sucks, too.
Plus, the Lions have some nice talent.
Can't really judge him. No one is remotely open, and he is being hit before he can even finish a 3-step drop right now.
Can't win games when you lose in the trenches, and the packers are being manhandled in the trenches right now.
Embarrassing. Losing in every component of the game, offense, defense, special teams, coaching, the Packers might be even have a worse ball boy, and fans in this one.
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Can't really judge him. No one is remotely open, and he is being hit before he can even finish a 3-step drop right now.
Can't win games when you lose in the trenches, and the packers are being manhandled in the trenches right now.
Embarrassing. Losing in every component of the game, offense, defense, special teams, coaching, the Packers might be even have a worse ball boy, and fans in this one.
They haven’t screwed up a snap yet
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20 yds in the half. Shockin' the score izant worse, hey?
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Whatever happened to Eric Stokes?
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Whatever happened to Eric Stokes?
Still out injured from last November. Eligible to be back next week
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They haven’t screwed up a snap yet
There is always the 2nd half for that.
Seriously, some individuals on the coaching staff need to be fired.
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Also, let’s stop with the mystique of Lambeau nonsense. That ship sailed A LONG time ago
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I'd be ok with never seeing Dillon run the football again for the Packers. It is weird how much slower and less powerful he looks this year.
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Huh
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If only there was some type of noise mechanism the NFL could find and utilize when a clock hits zero. Maybe something crazy like a horn or buzzer. Someday technology will get there…someday.
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And Quay Walker, Quay Walkers
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Drive home safely, y’all.
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Packers QB and WRs need more reps together. Too many key times where they are not on the same page. It'll come with time.
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Can't really judge him. No one is remotely open, and he is being hit before he can even finish a 3-step drop right now.
Can't win games when you lose in the trenches, and the packers are being manhandled in the trenches right now.
Embarrassing. Losing in every component of the game, offense, defense, special teams, coaching, the Packers might be even have a worse ball boy, and fans in this one.
4-5 years to judge Aina?
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Packers have room for improvement.
Got some time before next game to figure things out
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Also, let’s stop with the mystique of Lambeau nonsense. That ship sailed A LONG time ago
Who’s talking about it? Haven’t heard that in years literally.
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Packers QB and WRs need more reps together. Too many key times where they are not on the same page. It'll come with time.
Doubs bailing on that route that turned into an easy pick for Detroit was one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. Herbstreit made a lame ass excuse about that’s what happens when your qb is a threat to run. Love wasn’t even close to taking off on that play.
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LaFleur was really bad tonight. I don’t know why they bothered making Jones or Watson active if they were barely going to be involved in the offense. No help for a banged up offensive line that was getting killed. He didn’t bother any max protections, running backs to chip rushers, tight ends staying in to help in pass pro. It was just abysmal and a lot of it on LaFleur. Campbell made him look bad and embarrassed him.
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I feel like LaFleur is so hot and cold. So many times we come out flat and just look out coaches. Then other times he’s super innovative. It would be nice if he’d cut his losses on DC’s sooner.
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I feel like LaFleur is so hot and cold. So many times we come out flat and just look out coaches. Then other times he’s super innovative. It would be nice if he’d cut his losses on DC’s sooner.
JBC needs to go...
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Aaron Jones hasn’t touched the ball once.
The crux of the problem. He sets the table for the entire offense. Packers can't pay a RB to be the focal point of the offense and then not use him.
Sure, he's been hurt, but he looked fine out there for the snaps he played.
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LaFleur was really bad tonight. I don’t know why they bothered making Jones or Watson active if they were barely going to be involved in the offense. No help for a banged up offensive line that was getting killed. He didn’t bother any max protections, running backs to chip rushers, tight ends staying in to help in pass pro. It was just abysmal and a lot of it on LaFleur. Campbell made him look bad and embarrassed him.
Yep
I feel like LaFleur is so hot and cold. So many times we come out flat and just look out coaches. Then other times he’s super innovative. It would be nice if he’d cut his losses on DC’s sooner.
Yep
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Who’s talking about it? Haven’t heard that in years literally.
Announcers
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Also, let’s stop with the mystique of Lambeau nonsense. That ship sailed A LONG time ago
Michael Vick ended that.
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Michael Vick ended that.
Yup. Playoff losses in ‘07, ‘11, ‘13, ‘20 and ‘21 on top of that.
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This is all a MLF problem. He’s not up to the task. This is supposed to be an offense that minimizes the QB and instead we’re calling plays like it’s 12 back there.
It’s coaching.
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It’s coaching you say?
https://x.com/andyhermannfl/status/1707635068296925599?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Woof
https://x.com/byryanwood/status/1707613488456118576?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Woof
https://x.com/byryanwood/status/1707613488456118576?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
I'm not saying coaching isn't a problem, but stuff like that happens every game.
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Woof
https://x.com/byryanwood/status/1707613488456118576?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
What I like about Rasul, is that he is willing to tell that story.
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LeFleur isn't the best coach in the NFL, but he's far from the worst.
The problem is you've spent 8 first round picks on the defense, 5 of them on the front 7, and it nets you a bottom 5 run defense every single year.
And not really addressing LT when it's been clear for 2 years that Bakh is done is a major problem.
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LeFleur isn't the best coach in the NFL, but he's far from the worst.
The problem is you've spent 8 first round picks on the defense, 5 of them on the front 7, and it nets you a bottom 5 run defense every single year.
And not really addressing LT when it's been clear for 2 years that Bakh is done is a major problem.
Bingo on the LT. Going into the season expecting 17 games out of him was a poor choice
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The Lions are a well coached, disciplined team.
The Packers are well, coached by a flower.
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https://x.com/mattschneidman/status/1707601394226590061?s=46&t=5gmJcY2pC14Wd2RTie2Wtw (https://x.com/mattschneidman/status/1707601394226590061?s=46&t=5gmJcY2pC14Wd2RTie2Wtw)
Tough talk from the little flower again but nothing ever changes
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Bingo on the LT. Going into the season expecting 17 games out of him was a poor choice
I assume they expected more than 1? Crazy….
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I assume they expected more than 1? Crazy….
They probably shouldn't have expected more than 1. His knee is toast. This isn't a situation where he tore the ACL, fully recovered, then broke his leg or had some other unrelated injury. He's never going to be reliable, and it's possibly the most important position in football. To not even address that is insane.
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The Lions are a well coached, disciplined team.
The Packers are well, coached by a flower.
What?
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Complete lack of toughness on defense. They can't man up and stop the run.
For being a star, Kenny Clark gets pushed all over the field by the opposing team's OL.
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What?
Lafleur > La fleur > french for the flower
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Lafleur > La fleur > french for the flower
https://youtu.be/ikVthmetNH8?si=p1u8ynVT7xE7Cf4m
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Lafleur > La fleur > french for the flower
Ah…. Thanks.
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I was invited to the Packers Raiders game , kind of rethinking if I should make the treck out to Vegas .
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Flying on the Packers jet with the Gary family would be a fun experience. You should take them up on it.
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Flying on the Packers jet with the Gary family would be a fun experience. You should take them up on it.
I do it for all road games. It gets old after awhile, tbh
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https://youtu.be/ikVthmetNH8?si=p1u8ynVT7xE7Cf4m
Second City TV, the McKenzie Brothers. Priceless.
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They probably shouldn't have expected more than 1. His knee is toast. This isn't a situation where he tore the ACL, fully recovered, then broke his leg or had some other unrelated injury. He's never going to be reliable, and it's possibly the most important position in football. To not even address that is insane.
Bakhtiari probably needs to join Rodgers in the dolphin humping audio therapy sessions...
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New kicker has been solid
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/03/packers-rookie-k-anders-carlson-executing-when-it-matters-most/
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Anyone on Scoop going to The Packers game?
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38585985/packers-bakhtiari-needs-another-knee-surgery-done-season
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Jenkins back should help Packer Cause
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/07/packers-ol-elgton-jenkins-to-return-vs-raiders-after-missing-only-2-games/
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No Aaron Jones tonight so another fun day of watching AJ Dillon run into brick walls, assuming he doesn’t trip over himself.
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No Aaron Jones tonight so another fun day of watching AJ Dillon run into brick walls, assuming he doesn’t trip over himself.
Peddle his azz
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At the game . Over half the place Packer fans
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At the game . Over half the place Packer fans
So about as many as the packers last home game
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Any Taylor Swift sightin', hey?
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Maybe U2 or Adele.
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Packers need a WR bad. And a defense
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Zach Tom with a solid Brad Davison impression.
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Packers defensive coverage schemes…are something
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So about as many as the packers last home game
Unbelievably loud when Packers do something . This is like a Packer home game . Raiders QB just got sacked and place exploded
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This offensive scheme is such garbage
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This offensive scheme is such garbage
It is. Obvious Musgrave is in the dog house
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So many fond memories of the Packers defense getting gashed while Garappolo does nothing in particular
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That was Love’s worst throw of his career. Just awful. And sounds like plenty of Raiders fans there
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That was the first really brutal read and throw by Love that I’ve seen. No idea what he thought would happen throwing into triple coverage blanketed over the receiver there.
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That was the first really brutal read and throw by Love that I’ve seen. No idea what he thought would happen throwing into triple coverage blanketed over the receiver there.
Play calling has been atrocious. Too cute because they can’t control the LOS
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There is zero creativity on offense or defense right now.
We are letting them complete easy wide open throws, and we can't get a guy open, nonetheless provide protection for more than 2 seconds.
At some point, with all the talent GB has, it has to be a coaching issue.
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I really don’t think there’s a lot of talent though. Who is their best player?
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I really don’t think there’s a lot of talent though. Who is their best player?
On defense there better be, otherwise they have done a crap job drafting.
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I really don’t think there’s a lot of talent though. Who is their best player?
I don’t see any on offense. They just had two guys standing next to each other at the LOS along the sideline on that drop back.
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On defense there better be, otherwise they have done a crap job drafting.
I think they have done just that. Seriously is their best player Gary? Jones?
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Wow does this team suck. And Love shows zero. Tank and get the pick for a QB. They might not have to actually worry about tanking, they are bad.
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Or..... it is the youngest team in the league and is in unofficial rebuild mode.
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Bad all around. Clearly a team built around Aaron Jones doing a lot of different things
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Or..... it is the youngest team in the league and is in unofficial rebuild mode.
A bunch of young guys who haven’t shown anything promise of making that next step.
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lol MLF with a McCarthy-esque timeout
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I think they have done just that. Seriously is their best player Gary? Jones?
Honestly, I don't know. But watching this team play is pretty disgusting right now.
Something has to change.
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Daniel Carlson bails out MLF
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In the NFL, it seems like the system is very important. Players like Purdy, and Puca Nacua, aren't better than the players on GB, but the coaches scheme things properly for the guys they have.
The GB offense and defense just seems so old-fashioned and predictable.
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They suck
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In the NFL, it seems like the system is very important. Players like Purdy, and Puca Nacua, aren't better than the players on GB, but the coaches scheme things properly for the guys they have.
The GB offense and defense just seems so old-fashioned and predictable.
Purdy is surrounded by Pro Bowl talent up and down that offense. There's not much of a comparison when it comes to proven performance. The Packers are completely reliant on guys developing that A) aren't developing B) need good coaching or veteran mentorship, and C) are not getting either of B and thus not doing much of A.
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I really don’t think there’s a lot of talent though. Who is their best player?
Carlson, aina?
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Dillon told us off
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Dillon told us off
Yeah that’s the best he’s looked all year.
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Dillon told us off
I've been harsh on him, and he has sucked. But in this game it is clear he does better when he can get a full head of steam (Love under center) before getting the ball.
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High school offense, aina?
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#9 probably concussed on dat tackle, aina?
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Josh McDaniels is a bad football coach
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Dillon told us off
Take it back
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I've been harsh on him, and he has sucked. But in this game it is clear he does better when he can get a full head of steam (Love under center) before getting the ball.
And then two shotgun handoffs for no gain
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Gutey sucks. Even if he killed it with his drafting and roster construction, you can’t trade up to get a QB that led the NCAA in INTs while playing in a mid (generously) major conference, while also having a top 5 QB of all time on the roster, coming off of a 13-3 season. You just punted your first round pick. It was nothing like Rodgers, who many thought was the number 1 pick just falling into your lap in the mid 20s. And it’s not like this is just a first year rookie who is struggling with the speed of the game. It’s a 4th year player whose accuracy is absolutely horrible.
Gutey pays and uses draft capital on (and tries to trade for) RBs and ILBs while ignoring the OL and, up until last year, pass catchers. He’s in over his head and until he’s not the GM nothing else will matter.
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Wow, quite da bitch slap, aina?
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Take it back
They handed it off out of the shotgun those two plays
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Preston Smith on Davante Adams is a choice
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Need to out tank the Bears, imo
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Terrible decision to kick the FG there.
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McDaniels just wants to go back to NE, man
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At least we have the better Carlson
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Gain a yard, win the game.
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Josh McDaniels sucks
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Matt LaFleur sucks
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Snatched defeat from the Jaws of Victory
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That was initially a good idea, but a poorly thrown ball.
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Everyone in this organization sucks
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They suck
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Every one of Love's Interceptions were just panic throws and bad reads.
Offensive line can't be that bad, but an NFL QB can't make those kind of reads and panic throws.
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Love was really bad tonight.
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Love was really bad tonight.
Yes he was.
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Packers suck. Love sucks. JBC sucks. little Flower sucks. You lost to one of the crappiest teams in the league. Congrats.
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Watson didn’t do Love any favors on the last 2 picks.
Growing pains. Pack were 6-10 in Rodgers’ first year.
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Watson didn’t do Love any favors on the last 2 picks.
Growing pains. Pack were 6-10 in Rodgers’ first year.
Those were bad throws
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Love has had a habit of letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Need to throw that as soon as Watson had him beat
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Watson didn’t do Love any favors on the last 2 picks.
Growing pains. Pack were 6-10 in Rodgers’ first year.
I’m not sure what you wanted Watson to do on those? He was well covered on the first int and 2nd int was a late and way under thrown ball.
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A good quarterback would have lit up the Raiders tonight with that patchwork secondary. They had one big pass play all night and Raiders tripled their int total they had coming in. Awful and no excuse.
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Watson didn’t do Love any favors on the last 2 picks.
Growing pains. Pack were 6-10 in Rodgers’ first year.
I agree with you, especially on the last one. He slows down and his momentum is behind him, but he has 5-6 inches on Robertson, and he honestly should have fought for the ball to draw PI if nothing else. Watson does nothing.
That said, that ball has to be thrown to the back of the end zone. Can’t under throw that especially on 3rd down.
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A good quarterback would have lit up the Raiders tonight with that patchwork secondary. They had one big pass play all night and Raiders tripled their int total they had coming in. Awful and no excuse.
Agree. Start Clifford
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Love sucks. But Gutey has done nothing to help him. Letting the talent drip for the last few years and ignoring the offensive line. A combination of Love staring, a crappy offensive line, and young pass catchers was not a great plan.
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Agree. Start Clifford
(https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/78595005_10157786640462505_6235656205797163008_n.png?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=NO5fa-Rss8EAX9oEmB3&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AfBLCceAGEN515ZlTGfGQ7LlxaF1cThPhu9jcgwvJhfoAg&oe=654C310D)
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Packers fans very forgiving of their team.
When I was walking back in the crowds to the hotel , many Packers Fans were expressing sentiment that tonights loss was a function of growing pains and better days are ahead.
The coaching staff and players have room for improvement
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Those were bad throws
I agree. The INT’s are still on Love. Just looked like Watson could have come back to the ball more to at least try and break up the pass. He seemed to let the ball try to get to him.
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Even with a ridiculously soft schedule, the Packers will be lucky to win 3 more games this year.
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Welp. Kiss of death for the near future
https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1711796763554685199?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Welp. Kiss of death for the near future
https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1711796763554685199?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
His “Mr. Pfizer” thing with Kelce is pretty wild.
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His “Mr. Pfizer” thing with Kelce is pretty wild.
Kelce's gotta be Public Enemy #1 - spokesperson for science, took a knee to support civil rights, spooning with Taylor Swift.
Also winner of multiple Super Bowls.
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Think about this for a moment.
Green Bay has a new quarterback, new wide receivers, porous (except for last night) defense and a coaching staff that's adapting to the new reality.
Love made stupid mistakes. But for heaven sakes, if Brett Favre was written off when he made stupid mistakes (of which there were P-L-E-N-T-Y!!!!), where would the Packers have gone?
Love is learning. He doesn't have Donald Driver or Greg Jennings to throw too, yet. So give him a chance!
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Think about this for a moment.
Green Bay has a new quarterback, new wide receivers, porous (except for last night) defense and a coaching staff that's adapting to the new reality.
Love made stupid mistakes. But for heaven sakes, if Brett Favre was written off when he made stupid mistakes (of which there were P-L-E-N-T-Y!!!!), where would the Packers have gone?
Love is learning. He doesn't have Donald Driver or Greg Jennings to throw too, yet. So give him a chance!
I don't think this is a bad post at all. Favre caught fire about halfway through his first season as a starter. Hopefully Love will learn and adjust.
Favre also had Sterling Sharpe to throw to - a sure hire HoFer had he didn't have the neck issue. And he threw to him a lot to bail him out when he didn't fully understand what the defense was showing. Love certainly doesn't have that.
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Flashed the graphic early that the Packers are the youngest team in the league. Packer fans haven't been in rebuild mode for a long, long time.
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I don't think this is a bad post at all. Favre caught fire about halfway through his first season as a starter. Hopefully Love will learn and adjust.
Favre also had Sterling Sharpe to throw to - a sure hire HoFer had he didn't have the neck issue. And he threw to him a lot to bail him out when he didn't fully understand what the defense was showing. Love certainly doesn't have that.
I don’t disagree per se, but it’s a different era of QB evolution, fair or not
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I don’t disagree per se, but it’s a different era of QB evolution, fair or not
Don't disagree. And of course Favre meeting success after initial failure is very much not the norm in the history of the NFL.
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Don't disagree. And of course Favre meeting success after initial failure is very much not the norm in the history of the NFL.
And that failure was relative.
Packers had a losing record what, 7 of 8 years before Holmgren and Favre arrived in 92? Even if Favre made a lot of mistakes and struggled at times, that was still not just an above .500 team each year, it was markedly better than what the Packers had been doing.
QB era or not, the leash Love or Mac Jones is gonna get is gonna be much shorter than someone like early Josh Allen or Trevor Lawrence, due to recent organizational expectations, IMO.
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And that failure was relative.
Packers had a losing record what, 7 of 8 years before Holmgren and Favre arrived in 92? Even if Favre made a lot of mistakes and struggled at times, that was still not just an above .500 team each year, it was markedly better than what the Packers had been doing.
QB era or not, the leash Love or Mac Jones is gonna get is gonna be much shorter than someone like early Josh Allen or Trevor Lawrence, due to recent organizational expectations, IMO.
Organizational expectations and Love is in his 4th year.
I think Love is showing promise. Too early to make any meaningful judgments.
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And that failure was relative.
Packers had a losing record what, 7 of 8 years before Holmgren and Favre arrived in 92? Even if Favre made a lot of mistakes and struggled at times, that was still not just an above .500 team each year, it was markedly better than what the Packers had been doing.
QB era or not, the leash Love or Mac Jones is gonna get is gonna be much shorter than someone like early Josh Allen or Trevor Lawrence, due to recent organizational expectations, IMO.
The questions about Favre actually came more in 1993, his second season.
In '92, the Packers won 6 straight in Nov./Dec. and finished with a 9-7 record. A significant improvement over the '91 team that went 4-12 and their play and Favre's play was a bit of a surprise.
In '93, expectations were higher, especially after signing Reggie White. However, Favre's play declined. He lead the league in inceptions. His completion percentage and QB rating fell as well. However, the team still went 9-7 and made the playoffs. The GB was improving rapidly, but there were real questions on whether Favre was the right guy at QB. However, Holmgren struck with Favre.
Looking back at it, the playoff win in Detroit was a huge moment for him. The win cemented his status as the Packers QB. From there, Favre's career took off.
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The questions about Favre actually came more in 1993, his second season.
In '92, the Packers won 6 straight in Nov./Dec. and finished with a 9-7 record. A significant improvement over the '91 team that went 4-12 and their play and Favre's play was a bit of a surprise.
In '93, expectations were higher, especially after signing Reggie White. However, Favre's play declined. He lead the league in inceptions. His completion percentage and QB rating fell as well. However, the team still went 9-7 and made the playoffs. The GB was improving rapidly, but there were real questions on whether Favre was the right guy at QB. However, Holmgren struck with Favre.
Looking back at it, the playoff win in Detroit was a huge moment for him. The win cemented his status as the Packers QB. From there, Favre's career took off.
Kind of. The turning point for him was the Thursday night loss in ‘94 at Minnesota. He got hurt in that game and had a terrible interception. The story goes, Holmgren wanted to bench him and go with Brunell. Up to that point in the season, he had 9 tds, 7 picks and one game with a QB rating over 90. He was bad. That’s through 7 games
After that, 24 tds and 7 picks and only one game with a QB rating under 90, not counting the Monday night rain and wind disaster in Chicago. So, a completely different player the final 8 games. The difference was stark.
This is an article that references the Holmgren story
https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1997/01/27/warmed-up-after-getting-off-to-a-chilly-start-packers-coach-mike-holmgren-and-quarterback-brett-favre-have-found-their-comfort-zone
Edit: lots of pieces of information about Holmgren and the staff discussing the idea of benching him and Holmgren sticking with him
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Question for Packer fans: would you trade Love for Justin Fields?
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Kind of. The turning point for him was the Thursday night loss in ‘94 at Minnesota. He got hurt in that game and had a terrible interception. The story goes, Holmgren wanted to bench him and go with Brunell. Up to that point in the season, he had 9 tds, 7 picks and one game with a QB rating over 90. He was bad. That’s through 7 games
After that, 24 tds and 7 picks and only one game with a QB rating under 90, not counting the Monday night rain and wind disaster in Chicago. So, a completely different player the final 8 games. The difference was stark.
This is an article that references the Holmgren story
https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1997/01/27/warmed-up-after-getting-off-to-a-chilly-start-packers-coach-mike-holmgren-and-quarterback-brett-favre-have-found-their-comfort-zone
Edit: lots of pieces of information about Holmgren and the staff discussing the idea of benching him and Holmgren sticking with him
Thanks for the additional context. I knew Holmgren had serious discussions on benching Favre, but I thought it was in 93, not 94.
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Question for Packer fans: would you trade Love for Justin Fields?
Is maybe an acceptable answer? I’m not convinced Fields gets a best chance for success in Green Bay at the moment given the line and youth.
I’d like to see Love have a DJ Moore.
If Love isn’t the guy, I’d like to see a new coach with a draftee QB to develop, whether that’s a Caleb Williams or a Drake Maye or JJ McCarthy-type
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Kind of. The turning point for him was the Thursday night loss in ‘94 at Minnesota. He got hurt in that game and had a terrible interception. The story goes, Holmgren wanted to bench him and go with Brunell. Up to that point in the season, he had 9 tds, 7 picks and one game with a QB rating over 90. He was bad. That’s through 7 games
After that, 24 tds and 7 picks and only one game with a QB rating under 90, not counting the Monday night rain and wind disaster in Chicago. So, a completely different player the final 8 games. The difference was stark.
This is an article that references the Holmgren story
https://vault.si.com/.amp/vault/1997/01/27/warmed-up-after-getting-off-to-a-chilly-start-packers-coach-mike-holmgren-and-quarterback-brett-favre-have-found-their-comfort-zone
Edit: lots of pieces of information about Holmgren and the staff discussing the idea of benching him and Holmgren sticking with him
No social media. Easy decision for the coach.
Not really, but it was a different time.
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No social media. Easy decision for the coach.
Not really, but it was a different time.
Though the Packers lost that game, this was a cool play
https://youtu.be/RNfvoGI9DQ0?si=_0Y_IPLIuN6DmLKM
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Though the Packers lost that game, this was a cool play
https://youtu.be/RNfvoGI9DQ0?si=_0Y_IPLIuN6DmLKM
Having a WR block Reggie White is nearly as bad as having a LB cover Davante Adams
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Question for Packer fans: would you trade Love for Justin Fields?
If I can get Maye or Williams in the Draft, yes. Then I have an elite RB with a promising QB.
If I need to use either as a QB, no.
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If I can get Maye or Williams in the Draft, yes. Then I have an elite RB with a promising QB.
If I need to use either as a QB, no.
You think Fields is an elite RB? What leads you to that conclusion? Did he play RB at all in college? He's never taken a snap at RB for the Bears
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You think Fields is an elite RB? What leads you to that conclusion? Did he play RB at all in college? He's never taken a snap at RB for the Bears
It’s just his ongoing lame joke about Fields being an RB not a QB. It’s biweekly
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/12/packers-ol-goes-from-perceived-strength-to-an-unknown-entering-bye/
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https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/troy-aikmans-girlfriend-haley-clark-accused-of-scamming-nordstrom/
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https://nypost.com/2023/10/17/troy-aikmans-girlfriend-haley-clark-accused-of-scamming-nordstrom/
Posted in the wrong thread?
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Posted in the wrong thread?
Aikman hates the Packers.
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The questions about Favre actually came more in 1993, his second season.
In '93, expectations were higher, especially after signing Reggie White. However, Favre's play declined. He lead the league in inceptions. His completion percentage and QB rating fell as well. However, the team still went 9-7 and made the playoffs. The GB was improving rapidly, but there were real questions on whether Favre was the right guy at QB. However, Holmgren struck with Favre.
Looking back at it, the playoff win in Detroit was a huge moment for him. The win cemented his status as the Packers QB. From there, Favre's career took off.
You may want to look at the history of Bart Starr as well. Mr. Starr was a 17th round draft choice in 1956 and either backed up or split time with another quarterback until 1960. Coach Lombardi saw something in Mr. Starr and made him the full-time quarterback. 1961 was the first season Mr. Starr was the full-time, permanent quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Absent periods of injury, Mr. Starr stayed as the starting quarterback until 1970.
People mature at different rates. I'm still very optimistic Jordan Love is the guy.
I know Aaron Rodgers fans may disagree, but Mr. Starr was the best ever for the Green Bay Packers. Proof: Five (5) rings!
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You may want to look at the history of Bart Starr as well. Mr. Starr was a 17th round draft choice in 1956 and either backed up or split time with another quarterback until 1960. Coach Lombardi saw something in Mr. Starr and made him the full-time quarterback. 1961 was the first season Mr. Starr was the full-time, permanent quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Absent periods of injury, Mr. Starr stayed as the starting quarterback until 1970.
People mature at different rates. I'm still very optimistic Jordan Love is the guy.
I know Aaron Rodgers fans may disagree, but Mr. Starr was the best ever for the Green Bay Packers. Proof: Five (5) rings!
Starr was the best QB in Packers history. 10 post-season games, 15TDs, 3 picks, 104.8 passer rating.
Ran the offense, callled the plays. Wasn’t as talented and didn’t put up video game numbers but given the era, no doubt Starr is the best Packers QB ever
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You may want to look at the history of Bart Starr as well. Mr. Starr was a 17th round draft choice in 1956 and either backed up or split time with another quarterback until 1960. Coach Lombardi saw something in Mr. Starr and made him the full-time quarterback. 1961 was the first season Mr. Starr was the full-time, permanent quarterback for the Green Bay Packers. Absent periods of injury, Mr. Starr stayed as the starting quarterback until 1970.
People mature at different rates. I'm still very optimistic Jordan Love is the guy.
I know Aaron Rodgers fans may disagree, but Mr. Starr was the best ever for the Green Bay Packers. Proof: Five (5) rings!
Why isn't the current Pack QB "Mr." Jordan?
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I'm not very convinced on Love at all. I'd be thrilled to tank for Williams or Maye.
Love led the entire NCAA in interceptions his last year in college football, while playing against Mountain West defenders. I don't care that he lost all his receivers after his sophomore year, if you're an NFL starting QB talent, you shred the Mountain West with Marquette High receivers. His deep balls are so brutally inaccurate that it has, in my opinion, prevented him from more interceptions than he has this year. There are times he's throwing it deep into 3 defenders, but the ball is off the mark by 10 yards so neither defenders nor the one receiver down field can make a play on the ball.
Yes I get that he's a first year starter playing with young receivers. If his only problem was timing/chemistry with his receivers and the game moving too fast then maybe I'd believe he can develop into an above average starter. But he's a 4th year NFL QB who is horribly inaccurate on short and deep throws. He was great on intermediate throws early in the year, but even those are now leading to some turnovers.
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Peddle his ass, hey?
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I'm not very convinced on Love at all. I'd be thrilled to tank for Williams or Maye.
Love led the entire NCAA in interceptions his last year in college football, while playing against Mountain West defenders. I don't care that he lost all his receivers after his sophomore year, if you're an NFL starting QB talent, you shred the Mountain West with Marquette High receivers. His deep balls are so brutally inaccurate that it has, in my opinion, prevented him from more interceptions than he has this year. There are times he's throwing it deep into 3 defenders, but the ball is off the mark by 10 yards so neither defenders nor the one receiver down field can make a play on the ball.
Yes I get that he's a first year starter playing with young receivers. If his only problem was timing/chemistry with his receivers and the game moving too fast then maybe I'd believe he can develop into an above average starter. But he's a 4th year NFL QB who is horribly inaccurate on short and deep throws. He was great on intermediate throws early in the year, but even those are now leading to some turnovers.
Yep, he needs to execute better. Having healthy players helps a lot though. No Aaron Jones, Bakh, Elgton Jenkins, and Watson made the offense very incomplete.
Overall, I think he gets all of this year and then a 'prove it' contract loaded with incentives. If he isn't the guy we will know by the end of next year at the latest. IMO, if we get a spot where there is a QB we like a lot, I'm okay with the Packers chasing a bit of talent. Even if that is trading our 1st and two 2nd to move up.
What probably needs to be addressed ASAP is Gute's tenure. We have a lot of average players on this team without any standing out. Doubt we see a pro bowl selection of note on the team.
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I'm not very convinced on Love at all. I'd be thrilled to tank for Williams or Maye.
It’d be pretty damn easy to give Caleb Williams partial ownership in the Packers!
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Why isn't the current Pack QB "Mr." Jordan?
No second reference. The only one in the post that wasn't full first name was Coach Lombardi.
That's reverence.
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Yep, he needs to execute better. Having healthy players helps a lot though. No Aaron Jones, Bakh, Elgton Jenkins, and Watson made the offense very incomplete.
Overall, I think he gets all of this year and then a 'prove it' contract loaded with incentives. If he isn't the guy we will know by the end of next year at the latest. IMO, if we get a spot where there is a QB we like a lot, I'm okay with the Packers chasing a bit of talent. Even if that is trading our 1st and two 2nd to move up.
What probably needs to be addressed ASAP is Gute's tenure. We have a lot of average players on this team without any standing out. Doubt we see a pro bowl selection of note on the team.
No doubt about it. I don't think the Packers will be doing much winning until Gutey is gone.
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No doubt about it. I don't think the Packers will be doing much winning until Gutey is gone.
It would be better for the franchise if they bomb out and Love is clearly not the answer than a middling season unless Love really balls out over the final half of the season
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Overall, I think he gets all of this year and then a 'prove it' contract loaded with incentives.
Love already has his contract for next season.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36930283/packers-reach-1-year-extension-qb-jordan-love
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/19/packers-cb-jaire-alexander-back-returns-to-the-injury-report-on-thursday/
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An impressive 10 guys on the injury report this week despite the bye week.
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Why do the Packers have so many more injuries than any other team (s oit seems)?
An impressive 10 guys on the injury report this week despite the bye week.
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Good news re: Eric Stokes
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/21/packers-activate-cb-eric-stokes-from-pup-list-ahead-of-matchup-vs-broncos/
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NFL Network Preview of Packers Broncos. Russell Wilson not performing well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAZw0NRCaH0
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Aaron Jones playing today
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/22/packers-rb-aaron-jones-expected-to-play-vs-broncos/
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Love needs to realize this isn't Madden and he can't just launch the ball downfield and his tiny WR will go get it.
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Packers wide receivers suck
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Packers wide receivers suck
They miss Rodgers.
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How many first round picks on this Packers defense?
Send Gutenkust back to Minnesota, eh?
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They miss Rodgers.
Rodgers sucks
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Joe Barry sucks
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How many first round picks on this Packers defense?
Send Gutenkust back to Minnesota, eh?
Murphy has a choice to make after this year. He’s retiring in summer ‘25. Does he clean house and get it in order for his successor? Or does he leave it up to them?
Cause if he doesn’t do it this year, it won’t be for a couple IMO.
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Murphy has a choice to make after this year. He’s retiring in summer ‘25. Does he clean house and get it in order for his successor? Or does he leave it up to them?
Cause if he doesn’t do it this year, it won’t be for a couple IMO.
Do it now. Cap clears up after next year, I believe. They can’t let Gutes make another pick
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Do it now. Cap clears up after next year, I believe. They can’t let Gutes make another pick
I agree. Not sure Murphy does.
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Brutal, brutal offense. Love the plethora of 2 - 5 yard pass attempts.
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Brutal, brutal offense. Love the plethora of 2 - 5 yard pass attempts.
Run the wishbone
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Brutal, brutal offense. Love the plethora of 2 - 5 yard pass attempts.
I don't get it
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Guys, I'm not sure if any of the Packers coaches can
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I don't get it
They don’t have good receivers and don’t have a quarterback who can throw them open.
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Also this sucking by the Packers while playing one of the worst teams in the league. Wait, are the Packers now one of the worst teams in the NFL?
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Guys, I'm not sure if any of the Packers coaches can
Bissachia okay
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Say it with me...
Rebuild mode.
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Bissachia okay
Lol great timing
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Say it with me...
Rebuild mode.
I thought 7-9 wins at start of season. I’m down to 3-5.
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Looked like one of my recent 6 irons.
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I thought 7-9 wins at start of season. I’m down to 3-5.
Time to tank.
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What exactly did the Packers practice during the bye week? It sure wasn't on the offensive side of the ball!
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What exactly did the Packers practice during the bye week? It sure wasn't on the offensive side of the ball!
How were they to know that teams will sell out to stop these 5 yard swing passes
Update: Start Wicks at QB
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What exactly did the Packers practice during the bye week? It sure wasn't on the offensive side of the ball!
how to get even more injured
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Rashan Gary can get to the QB but teams can run just at him
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Is this what rock bottom is like?
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Is this what rock bottom is like?
Lol, nope. Imagine a decade of this... maybe two... maybe three.
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Getting ass kicked by Denver is a low…
Is this what rock bottom is like?
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Love is very lucky Doubs was able to muscle that away, that pass was way short
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Touchdown Seahawks
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Lol, nope. Imagine a decade of this... maybe two... maybe three.
Lions fan waves.
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You'd think after almost $100k in fines a dude would learn.
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two ridiculous bailouts
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Time for Joe Barry’s defense to shut it down
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Brad Davison plays db for the Packers?
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Jordan Love aint the guy
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Love Stinks (J Geils was right). Keep losing and draft a QB.
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I’m not sure there’s anything this team does well.
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Packers have room for improvement. Need to reassess Little Flower
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Love Stinks (J Geils was right). Keep losing and draft a QB.
No GM should have the opportunity to draft the second "quarterback of the future" if the first one is a bust.
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I’m having my knee scoped tomorrow and hoping the surgeon isn’t a die hard Packer fan who has trouble getting over a bad loss!
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Gutey drained the talent QUICKLY. He prioritized RB and ILB and ignored pass catchers and OL. He ran an all time great QB out of town for a guy who led the NCAA in interceptions playing against low major talent. He has to be a bottom 5 GM.
I’d love to keep Love around for 2 more years, draft OLs in the top 5 the next 2 drafts, and then land Arch.
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Is this what rock bottom is like?
Hi
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Brad Davison plays db for the Packers?
Punch'n Jeudy is no longer just an old timey puppet show.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/23/rb-a-j-dillon-provides-bright-spot-for-packers-offense-during-loss-in-denver/
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Eric Stokes puts in 4 plays before going back on IL. Another bust
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/28/packers-lbs-face-difficult-task-of-trying-to-limit-vikings-te-tj-hockenson/
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Good news
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/29/packers-cb-jaire-alexander-active-vs-vikings-in-week-8/
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Skol Vikings
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Can’t wait for the packets to be the only team this season that can’t turnover the Vikings
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1. The Packers offensive line is terrible
2. I have no idea what they do on 3rd down defense but it’s not good
3. I’m sick of the young WR excuses. Jordan Addison looks pretty freaking good
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Pack sucks, aina?
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Pack sucks, aina?
Yes
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#10 sucks, hey?
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1. The Packers offensive line is terrible
2. I have no idea what they do on 3rd down defense but it’s not good
3. I’m sick of the young WR excuses. Jordan Addison looks pretty freaking good
Would’ve liked him on the team vs Van Ness. When’s the last time you’ve even heard his name?
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Another stellar start for GB. 0, nada, bupkis first downs, hey?
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#10 sucks, hey?
WR’s suck
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How long until the Joe Barry experience ends?
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WR’s suck
They all suck
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Packers suck all around - Love, play calling, receivers can’t get open, dumb penalties, run defense, opposing WRs running wide open.
They likely will lose out the rest of the season, which may the low point and the start of a rise with a new QB.
And somehow LaFluer will continue to employ JBC
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Bob and Brian still around? Time to bring back “All My Packers”
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Fire everybody
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Hey, a 1st down!
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Hey, a 1st down!
Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll have a holding call here shortly
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Most promising drive so far and they’re barely past the 50 yard line
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Anders Carlson running away with the team MVP award and it’s not close.
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Bryan Bulaga says Joe Barry is doing a good job
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Anders Carlson running away with the team MVP award and it’s not close.
I agree with this analysis.
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I think Mike needs to call more 2 yard passes. And absolutely do not send Musgrave over the middle.
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I agree with this analysis.
Nice doink
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I’m glad Rasul’s so concerned with the offense
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So happy for Jaire getting his bag
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Gotta remind myself we’re playing a crap team, but back to .500 feels good. SKOL!!!
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So happy for Jaire getting his bag
He sucks
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Packers have room for improvement
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He sucks
Has there been a single player that’s shown improvement?
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Has there been a single player that’s shown improvement?
The punter?
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The punter?
Nah he sucks. Should be way better with how much work he gets.
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Got the PI but a fade route to the smallest WR is certainly a play call.
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Everyone is bad.
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We're all doomed.
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Will Levis>jordan love
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Fire everybody.
Trade Jaire. Trade Gary
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Bakh going to refuse to play at lambeau now after Cousins’ Achilles tear
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Vikings were usually playing with one safety. Oftentimes with none. There is zero reason for opposing defenses to have any respect for this passing game.
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Packers have room for improvement
And the North Pole has room for a warm-up.
The Packers just plain suck.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/10/29/same-self-inflicted-errors-plague-packers-in-loss-to-vikings/
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Do the Packers lead the league in pre-snap penalties? It seems every decent play is followed by losing 5 yards.
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Do the Packers lead the league in pre-snap penalties? It seems every decent play is followed by losing 5 yards.
decent chance they lead in 15 yard penalties.
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Packers give Gary the bag. Not sure about this
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Packers give Gary the bag. Not sure about this
Depends on the guarantees.
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Waste of bread. Tear da whole mess down and start over. Da only playa worth chit is Carlson, aina?
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Depends on the guarantees.
Looks like at least $35 Million guaranteed . Will find out more details over time.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38778681/packers-rashan-gary-agrees-4-year-1075m-extension
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Will Levis>jordan love
Tyson Bagent>Jordan Love
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Tyson Bagent>Jordan Love
He definitely might be. Or might not be. We'll see!
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Tyson Bagent>Jordan Love
Maybe? Seems a little early to make that call.
I gotta admit, it seemed like Tirico and Collinsworth were a little over-the-top yesterday in their praise. He did some good things. But a lot of it wasn't great. And like with a lot of young quarterbacks, your weaknesses will be found out quickly so the key is how you evolve and sustain.
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Maybe? Seems a little early to make that call.
I gotta admit, it seemed like Tirico and Collinsworth were a little over-the-top yesterday in their praise. He did some good things. But a lot of it wasn't great. And like with a lot of young quarterbacks, your weaknesses will be found out quickly so the key is how you evolve and sustain.
This really stuck out to me. And frequently their on-screen narratives come from the teams themselves...
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This really stuck out to me. And frequently their on-screen narratives come from the teams themselves...
IDK if they were just trying to keep people engaged in a really poor game or what, but it was pretty noticeable.
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https://x.com/zachkruse2/status/1719030720830578894?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Gutenkunst can’t evaluate WRs at all
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https://x.com/zachkruse2/status/1719030720830578894?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Gutenkunst can’t evaluate WRs at all
Or QBs.
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Do the Packers lead the league in pre-snap penalties? It seems every decent play is followed by losing 5 yards.
https://x.com/nflrefstats1/status/1719049178381431171?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/nflrefstats1/status/1719049178381431171?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
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Maybe? Seems a little early to make that call.
I gotta admit, it seemed like Tirico and Collinsworth were a little over-the-top yesterday in their praise. He did some good things. But a lot of it wasn't great. And like with a lot of young quarterbacks, your weaknesses will be found out quickly so the key is how you evolve and sustain.
I don’t disagree, still a lot we don’t know about Bagent. But he does have an accurate arm, an essential for a QB that Love struggles with. And it’s fun poking the bear (bias) who made Bagent (a free agent, for godsakes) the poster child for Chicago’s stupidity.
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https://x.com/lukebraunnfl/status/1719078034907754923?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/lukebraunnfl/status/1719078034907754923?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
This is wild
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https://x.com/lukebraunnfl/status/1719078034907754923?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/lukebraunnfl/status/1719078034907754923?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
This is wild
Eh. Looks like a receiver missed an audible. It happens.
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I remember Joey Harrington facing a 4th down and 5-ish to go. All four of his receivers went 3 yards and stopped. He completed the pass, but the receiver was tackled short of the marker. I remember the announcer being stunned that the play called did not have any receiver going anywhere.
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Eh. Looks like a receiver missed an audible. It happens.
Looks like it was supposed to be a screen to the left.
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Looks like it was supposed to be a screen to the left.
And the pass rush just blew it up? Good call.
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Eh. Looks like a receiver missed an audible. It happens.
Yep. And plays like that are why I'm hesitant to give up on Love. Not many guys can make that play. Good recognition by Doubs too.
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Packers trade Rasul Douglas to the Bills, along with a 5th, for a 3rd. Likely wasn't going to be on the team next year with an $11 million cap hit.
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Packers trade Rasul Douglas to the Bills, along with a 5th, for a 3rd. Likely wasn't going to be on the team next year with an $11 million cap hit.
Oh great, another draft pick for Gute to notch.
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Adios and next man up, aina?
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https://x.com/andyhermannfl/status/1718999107379868133?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
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Oh great, another draft pick for Gute to notch.
At least they have Stokes to step in. :-\
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Packers trade Rasul Douglas to the Bills, along with a 5th, for a 3rd. Likely wasn't going to be on the team next year with an $11 million cap hit.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38788389/source-bills-acquire-cb-rasul-douglas-trade-packers
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At least they have Stokes to step in. :-\
Hey now, don't forget about Preston Smith.
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The offer the Bills made for Rasul being “too good to pass up” is certainly a take.
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The offer the Bills made for Rasul being “too good to pass up” is certainly a take.
Eh, it was a cap decision on a CB who will be 29 next year. He's been burned more than a few times this season (as has everyone on the team). Was going to get big money and the team doesn't need to pay a 30 year old CB during a rebuild. Was he probably the leader of the defense, sure... but that defense is a MESS. Take the draft capital, salary cap money, and move on.
It certainly wasn't the worst decision made yesterday.
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Yeah, Rasul was going to be a cap casualty next year anyway.
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Yeah I dunno, of all of the decisions GB has made in the last few years, turning a 5th into a 3rd, saving $9 ($6.5? seen both)M off the cap, and making your team marginally worse in a lost season that only benefits from additional losses for draft position seems like not the place I'd direct my criticism.
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Yeah I dunno, of all of the decisions GB has made in the last few years, turning a 5th into a 3rd, saving $9 ($6.5? seen both)M off the cap, and making your team marginally worse in a lost season that only benefits from additional losses for draft position seems like not the place I'd direct my criticism.
Sounds like Jerry Krause, circa late 1990s!
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At least Gutey kills it with third round draft picks! The players he has drafted in the 3rd round are:
Oren Burks
Jace Sternberger
Josiah Deguara
Amari Rodgers
Sean Rhyan
Tucker Kraft
Looking forward to seeing who he adds in 2024!
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At least Gutey kills it with third round draft picks! The players he has drafted in the 3rd round are:
Oren Burks
Jace Sternberger
Josiah Deguara
Amari Rodgers
Sean Rhyan
Tucker Kraft
Looking forward to seeing who he adds in 2024!
In Gute's defense (just this once) Oren Burks is having a decent post GB career
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Pack won't pay. The rest is just useless blah, blah, blah, hey?
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Yeah, Rasul was going to be a cap casualty next year anyway.
Also, he put up good numbers last year (interceptions) largely by jumping routes and taking gambles. This year, opposing defenses have a lot of tape on him, and know the exact routes he likes to jump and take gambles on. As a result, he gets burned a lot, because they set him up to take the gamble and then expose him.
I think it was Goff on the lions who said they made a specific call knowing that they'd get a TD on Rasul because of the film...they got a TD.
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Gutey feeling the heat re: #10
https://fansided.com/posts/packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-officially-sounds-the-alarms-on-jordan-love-01he69xz40vj
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Gutey feeling the heat re: #10
https://fansided.com/posts/packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-officially-sounds-the-alarms-on-jordan-love-01he69xz40vj
lol, Fansided 😂
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Gutey feeling the heat re: #10
https://fansided.com/posts/packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-officially-sounds-the-alarms-on-jordan-love-01he69xz40vj
Dish is right. No GM should draft two “QBs of the future.”
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Dish is right. No GM should draft two “QBs of the future.”
Regardless of whether he’s drafting a QB or not, Gutey cannot be the GM going into this draft. Highest draft pick in decades, two 2nds, and two 3rds. Just cannot have Gutey being the one making these picks.
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Regardless of whether he’s drafting a QB or not, Gutey cannot be the GM going into this draft. Highest draft pick in decades, two 2nds, and two 3rds. Just cannot have Gutey being the one making these picks.
He will be making those picks. Mark Murphy isn't going to be installing a new GM and coaching staff before he retires in two years.
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Am I missing what was so bad about how Gutey communicated the trade to Douglas?
Seems that Douglas was bummed to leave and that’s more of the frustration.
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Certainly Joe Barry can figure out Brett Rypien today.
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Certainly Joe Barry can figure out Brett Rypien today.
Hopefully Joe Berry gets lost going to the stadium
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/05/packers-inactives-quay-walker-rudy-ford-both-out-vs-rams/
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This team is just so stupid.
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Holy Garo Yepremian moment.
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The elusive first half score!
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The elusive first half score!
The Rams might stink
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The Rams might stink
or are the packers elite???
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or are the packers elite???
I’m confident in my statement
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The Rams might stink
Skills.
Stafford might be better left handed.
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And throws like that are why Jordan love ain’t it.
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The Packers proving not every team can run the Tush Push.
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1 step forward, 3 steps back every possession.
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Another miss from Carlson
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Needed that FG . Tough way to end half.
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Time to bring back “All My Packers”.
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Is the Packers offense the Iowa of the NFL?
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At some point I wonder if this is intentional. Probably the least enjoyable packer team in my memory.
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Aaron Donald is still fun to watch
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It’s official, the Rams suck
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A GB WR finally makes a play.
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A GB WR finally makes a play.
and hurts himself in the process
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Probably partially shock.
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Sucks when you watch two crap teams, and your team is slightly less craptier.
Screwing up a draft pick.
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20-26, 228. Solid
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Sucks when you watch two crap teams, and your team is slightly less craptier.
Screwing up a draft pick.
MLF is so over his head he can't even drive the TANK.
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20-26, 228. Solid
Yeah Love was pretty good in the second half. No complaints.
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Solid win for Packers
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Watson managed to sustain a chest injury, back injury, and a possible concussion on his one catch.
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Watson managed to sustain a chest injury, back injury, and a possible concussion on his one catch.
I really don’t recall any Packer or player before him so incapable of taking a hit and getting right back up. He is so fragile it’s ridiculous.
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Watson managed to sustain a chest injury, back injury, and a possible concussion on his one catch.
Made of glass. Hurt his front back and top on 1 play. Thank god it sounds like his feet are OK.
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Watson managed to sustain a chest injury, back injury, and a possible concussion on his one catch.
3rd round talent who will never amount to anything.
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Watson managed to sustain a chest injury, back injury, and a possible concussion on his one catch.
My chest, my back...
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/09/packers-jaire-alexander-misses-second-practice-cb-depth-to-be-tested-vs-steelers/
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NFL.Com Packers Steelers Preview
https://youtu.be/NSLbjEbHvmA?si=KjjtFbMinKN5G7ug
Hopefully Packers can keep their winning ways from last week
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Packer defensive effort in that 1st drives looks like the Badgers.
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Heckuva drive by 10, eh?
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Steelers hit their avg ppg a little bit into the second quarter
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Steelers hit their avg ppg a little bit into the second quarter
Joe Barry, baby
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Heckuva pass by 10, eh
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Carlson sucks, eh
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Special teams are special again ::).
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The left edge blocker on the blocked XP should be cut by halftime. Zero effort
81. Deguara
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Watson has zero desire to fight for a jump ball
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Watson has zero desire to fight for a jump ball
He’s terrible
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Green Bay just plunged a very sharp knife into the hearts of its fans.
It's Taps time!
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Stupid team
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Great Result!
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Watson has zero desire to fight for a jump ball
And it made him a non option on the last play too
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Great Result!
There’s a couple important games the Great Result crew has coming up for the Pack.
@ Giants
@ Panthers
Bears
I don’t know if they’re bad enough to sneak into the top 5, but they’ve definitely entered the Great Result chat room.
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Peddle all of 'em, 'cept Carlson, aina?
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Funny thing about the GREAT RESULT group is Packers fans have seen a good quarterback in their lifetime and don’t pretend they have a DUDE or the best quarterback in the NFC North (when Aaron Rodgers was still in the division, no doubt). And understand that until there’s a new GM in place, draft position won’t matter one bit.
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Peddle all of 'em, 'cept Carlson, aina?
He sucks
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Der all soft and full of themselves. Throw MLF, Gutty, and start over, hey?
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MLF and Guty have room for improvement
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Packers need a wholesale purge from the top down to JBC.
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Blown call on that backward pass/fumble/ return.
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Don't understand the theory of drafting a QB , who came from a lower level league, who threw a lot of interceptions. Similarly , why draft a receiver from a lower level who dropped lots of passes at collegiate level. It is not like they are going to move up to the NFL, the highest of all leagues, and change their ways.
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Don't understand passin' on T. J. Watt ether, hey?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/15/justin-herbert-chargers-passing-attack-will-present-a-new-challenge-for-packers-defense/
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If he throws like he did against Detroit, buckle up.
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If he throws like he did against Detroit, buckle up.
The Packers have Jaire Island
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Rashan Gary injured in practice
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/17/with-rashan-gary-questionable-kingsley-enagbare-ready-for-potential-larger-role-vs-justin-herbert-chargers/
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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/nfl-news-and-rumors/christian-watsons-father-slams-packers-fans-says-theyre-worse-than-phillys
Worse than Philly fans.
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https://www.si.com/fannation/bringmethesports/nfl-news-and-rumors/christian-watsons-father-slams-packers-fans-says-theyre-worse-than-phillys
Worse than Philly fans.
Philly Fans Booed and Threw Snowballs at Santa Claus. That is pretty low.
https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/opinion/bad-santa-and-snowballs-has-become-a-legendary-episode-in-eagles-history
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And legendary. However, Christian Watson's dad, a former NFL player who played in Philly, says Packer fans are worse.
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Philly Fans Booed and Threw Snowballs at Santa Claus. That is pretty low.
https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/opinion/bad-santa-and-snowballs-has-become-a-legendary-episode-in-eagles-history
I saw some Packer fans kick the crap out of Mother Theresa in a bar in Calcutta.
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So much of this could have been avoided by admitting publicly that this is a rebuild.
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And legendary. However, Christian Watson's dad, a former NFL player who played in Philly, says Packer fans are worse.
Maybe his kid can learn how to fight for a football.
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lol of course our fans are bad. I’ve got news for Mr Watson though, fans of every team are, measured collectively, awful.
Some random folks who are smart and kind and generous fans of the packers, bears, eagles etc? Sure. Grab a random 10 outta any stadium and you’re not exactly gonna find a group of fine minds and genteel demeanor.
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the porcelain doll might break fighting for the ball... packers probably now regret not making that trade for Taylor...
Maybe his kid can learn how to fight for a football.
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If there’s a softer, weaker player in the NFL than Watson, I’d like to see him. I’ve never seen a guy so pathetic at taking a hit.
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I saw some Packer fans kick the crap out of Mother Theresa in a bar in Calcutta.
Actually, I heard Mother Theresa scored a 60 yard touchdown run against the Bear defense, then was whistled for unsportsmanlike conduct!
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Actually, I heard Mother Theresa scored a 60 yard touchdown run against the Bear defense, then was whistled for unsportsmanlike conduct!
Careful, someone may actually believe that. :D
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Actually, I heard Mother Theresa scored a 60 yard touchdown run against the Bear defense, then was whistled for unsportsmanlike conduct!
She would part the Packers runs D like the Red Sea.
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Shouldn't have hired Gandhi as defensive coordinator.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/18/packers-rookie-pass-catchers-are-shining-but-need-more-from-second-year-wrs/
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Jonathan Owens is not the athlete in his family.
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Carlson sucks
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Is Watson’s dad going to blame Jordan’s hard count for the false start?
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Is Watson’s dad going to blame Jordan’s hard count for the false start?
My guess is Yes
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Packers running back room getting lonely
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Packers need to make a solid drive here
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Kinda thinking that this is a team with a lot of issues. And quarterback isn’t one of them.
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It’s amazing a 6 minute drive can end at the 50 yard line with a punt
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Kinda thinking that this is a team with a lot of issues. And quarterback isn’t one of them.
cArLsOn Is ThE bEsT pLaYeR oN tHe PaCkErS
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Heckuva drive by 10
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Kinda thinking that this is a team with a lot of issues. And quarterback isn’t one of them.
I'm thinking the same
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Doink. Your Christmas present, GB. That was a TD.
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I feel bad for Herbert
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Excellent win for Packers
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Kinda thinking that this is a team with a lot of issues. And quarterback isn’t one of them.
I think Love has played well the last few games. Not too flashy, but moving the ball. The throws like the miss to Musgrave down the sideline was frustrating.
For me, even if the wins aren't there, if it looks like we have the QB of the future with Love, I will be optimistic about the future. When they showed the 1-4 in close games stat, it reminded me of Rodgers first year starting.
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At this point you look for things on the upswing, and the Packers have that with Love, Musgrave, Reed, Wicks. The OL, RB room and entire defense (per usual) needs a lot of work. Expect OL to be an early target
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At this point you look for things on the upswing, and the Packers have that with Love, Musgrave, Reed, Wicks. The OL, RB room and entire defense (per usual) needs a lot of work. Expect OL to be an early target
LT has to be priority one
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LT has to be priority one
He's way too old - and probably too coked out.
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He's way too old - and probably too coked out.
Well, he’s alive somehow
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Chargers were 32nd in pass defense coming into today. Love can’t throw the ball downfield. That’s a major problem, and not something that’s just an experience issue, or experienced weapon issue. Is he the biggest problem with this team? No. Is he good enough to lead a true contender? Also no, in my opinion.
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Chargers were 32nd in pass defense coming into today. Love can’t throw the ball downfield. That’s a major problem, and not something that’s just an experience issue, or experienced weapon issue. Is he the biggest problem with this team? No. Is he good enough to lead a true contender? Also no, in my opinion.
I want to see Love with a real coach before we pull the plug. MLF is middling at best.
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I would agree with wades that his touch passes downfield aren't great right now. But I have been real impressed with his accuracy in the middle of the field recently. He is decisive and really slings it. I think Tom Clements has had a nice impact on his development.
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I would agree with wades that his touch passes downfield aren't great right now. But I have been real impressed with his accuracy in the middle of the field recently. He is decisive and really slings it. I think Tom Clements has had a nice impact on his development.
His TD pass to Watson was nice yesterday and Doubs made a nice play on the last Td
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I would agree with wades that his touch passes downfield aren't great right now. But I have been real impressed with his accuracy in the middle of the field recently. He is decisive and really slings it. I think Tom Clements has had a nice impact on his development.
He's definitely better than I thought he would be. He's definitely composed. I just think it's hard to be a good offense when the defense has absolutely no worries about you throwing the ball over the top. That threat needs to be there.
His TD pass to Watson was nice yesterday and Doubs made a nice play on the last Td
The Doubs pass was another bad throw to the end zone to me. Doubs had 3 steps on the guy and Love gave the DB a chance to get back into the play. We've seen it consistently at the end of close games that have resulted in a lot of interceptions down there. It was a better throw than past ones, but still needs to be better.
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He's definitely better than I thought he would be. He's definitely composed. I just think it's hard to be a good offense when the defense has absolutely no worries about you throwing the ball over the top. That threat needs to be there.
The Doubs pass was another bad throw to the end zone to me. Doubs had 3 steps on the guy and Love gave the DB a chance to get back into the play. We've seen it consistently at the end of close games that have resulted in a lot of interceptions down there. It was a better throw than past ones, but still needs to be better.
Big difference this time was throwing to Doubs instead of Watson. Loved Doubs going up to get the ball on the play.
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and Watson did not get injured catching the ball...
His TD pass to Watson was nice yesterday and Doubs made a nice play on the last Td
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He's definitely better than I thought he would be. He's definitely composed. I just think it's hard to be a good offense when the defense has absolutely no worries about you throwing the ball over the top. That threat needs to be there.
The Doubs pass was another bad throw to the end zone to me. Doubs had 3 steps on the guy and Love gave the DB a chance to get back into the play. We've seen it consistently at the end of close games that have resulted in a lot of interceptions down there. It was a better throw than past ones, but still needs to be better.
Saw Love live against The Raiders . The athleticism is there . Guys who are expert at reading defenses dont grow on trees. So it will take a lot of blood sweat ane tears for that level to be reached .
A good Coach and GM should be able to make the right assessment over the course of a full season.
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Luke Musgrave was injured Sunday and may be done for the year. He is definitely out Thursday
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Luke Musgrave was injured Sunday and may be done for the year. He is definitely out Thursday
Jones already out and Reed banged up. Probably won’t be thankful for a packers win on thanksgiving
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Luke Musgrave was injured Sunday and may be done for the year. He is definitely out Thursday
Lombardi Style tough kid
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/21/packers-te-luke-musgrave-hospitalized-with-significant-abdomen-injury/
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Luke Musgrave was injured Sunday and may be done for the year. He is definitely out Thursday
Maybe if he listens to some Dolphin porn
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Maybe if he listens to some Dolphin porn
Tua....to Tyreek....touchdown.....
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Half the Packers roster appears to be street free agents today
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I’ve become a big fan of Reed
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Quay Walker is terrible
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Does Joe Barry scheme to not guard TEs?
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Does Joe Barry scheme to not guard TEs?
They haven’t bothered with those guys all year.
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Does Joe Barry scheme to not guard TEs?
I'm not sure what Joe Barry does or doesn't do.
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Does Joe Barry scheme to not guard TEs?
I’m not sure why the middle of the field is so wide open all the time against them. Mix in a zone blitz
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Detroit’s defense has problems
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Jordan Love and the offense starting to put it together.
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Their defense looks horrendous. As bad as Barry’s garbage.
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Their defense looks horrendous. As bad as Barry’s garbage.
Needs another edge to pair with Hutchinson
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Jordan Love and the offense starting to put it together.
Love has looked better. But under pressure, he’s still mostly awful, throws and decisions. They’ve protected very well so far today
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Needs another edge to pair with Hutchinson
It goes deeper than that I think
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It goes deeper than that I think
In the modern nfl, you have to be able to rush the QB and Detroit is in the bottom half. Definitely issues in the secondary, too
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I'm not sure what Joe Barry does or doesn't do.
Good job, cheers. That was the quintessential Joe Barry Carroll comment.
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Carlson sucks but he’s the best player on the team according to some
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Solid first half
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Extend Barry!
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How much $$$ has Goff bet on the Packers?
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Packers have left a lot to be desired on 4th down this season. Potential game changing mess up there.
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How much $$$ has Goff bet on the Packers?
He must’ve seen this tweet:
https://x.com/jaycuda/status/1727431198333706280?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/jaycuda/status/1727431198333706280?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
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Their defense looks horrendous. As bad as Barry’s garbage.
Don't tell JWags.
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Terrible holding call steals TD from Detroit but they score anyway.
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Game is far from over
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Mcduffie is clueless in pass coverage.
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First time I’ve heard Van Ness’ name in weeks is on a penalty call
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Stoopid Love couldn’t catch that pass too.
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Who the heck is Robert Rochelle?
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Packers snuff out a fake special teams play for the first time in franchise history. Need a score here.
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Love flat out balling today
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Who the heck is Robert Rochelle?
who the heck is Christian Watson?
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Love flat out balling today
Lotsa golf yet ta bea played, aina?
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Lotsa golf yet ta bea played, aina?
Great point. He’s been playing great today and what he’s done so far is irrelevant.
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If that is the best play on the sheet, just kick the ball.
Call a pass, but take it out of Jordan’s hands. ::)
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Rashan really wants that Turkey leg
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Live by the Campbell Gamble, die by it sometimes too. Still like his style.
Meanwhile, impressed as heck by Pack D and Love.
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Great point. He’s been playing great today and what he’s done so far is irrelevant.
Der iz know "I" in team, butt der iz "me," hey?
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Two drops on third down
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Two drops on third down
I think that last one was on Love, not Reed
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I think that last one was on Love, not Reed
Just a hair overthrown but Reed mistimed his jump too. Might have been Loves worst throw today
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Heckuva game by 10, aina?
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Man if Love stands in there and takes that hit he could’ve probably got that ball to Watson
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He has no arm strength and that's problematic...but, yes, this is his best game by far overall, hey?
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He has no arm strength and that's problematic...but, yes, this is his best game by far overall, hey?
There is room for lots of criticisms of Jordan Love, but arm strength is not one of them. He simply tried to throw falling of his back foot. No one has a cannon throwing like that.
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There is room for lots of criticisms of Jordan Love, but arm strength is not one of them. He simply tried to throw falling of his back foot. No one has a cannon throwing like that.
27-40, 332, 2TDs last week
22-32, 268, 3TDs this week
No turnovers. Dude is balling
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Watch out - lots of drunken grumpy turkey day dinners in Motown tonight.
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Watch out - lots of drunken grumpy turkey day dinners in Motown tonight.
Meh. It isn't Thanksgiving without cursing the Lions.
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Would love to see a trade up in the draft to get Harrison. Lotsa 2s and3s in the receiver room. A true #1 would set them up for the future.
I doubt they would consider it though since there are bigger needs elsewhere and several very good tackles in the draft.
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27-40, 332, 2TDs last week
22-32, 268, 3TDs this week
No turnovers. Dude is balling
Yes, he's been extremely good lately.
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Would love to see a trade up in the draft to get Harrison. Lotsa 2s and3s in the receiver room. A true #1 would set them up for the future.
I doubt they would consider it though since there are bigger needs elsewhere and several very good tackles in the draft.
It would have to be quite a trade. Every team in the league would love to get Harrison.
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Would love to see a trade up in the draft to get Harrison. Lotsa 2s and3s in the receiver room. A true #1 would set them up for the future.
I doubt they would consider it though since there are bigger needs elsewhere and several very good tackles in the draft.
LT is the biggest need here - if a guy is there you get him. At WR I think Rome is the other X receiver. Incidentally, I'd be a huge proponent of Penix if Love wasn't on this tear
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Love’s arm talent is easily top 10 in the league. First play to Watson was 60 air yards and he didn’t step into the throw.
We’ll see on the consistency but last two weeks have been very impressive. To me it looks like he’s figuring it out quickly.
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How much does Fox suck that the packers were the only winning team that didnt get a turkey? Jordan and Rashan got screwed.
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How much does Fox suck that the packers were the only winning team that didnt get a turkey? Jordan and Rashan got screwed.
Budget took a hit from paying those defamation suits
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From GB Press-Gazette:
Thursday was a continuation of a four-game trend in which Love has put up a 103.1 rating (eight touchdown passes, two interceptions), and the Packers are 3-1.
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From GB Press-Gazette:
Thursday was a continuation of a four-game trend in which Love has put up a 103.1 rating (eight touchdown passes, two interceptions), and the Packers are 3-1.
Looks a lot more confident and decisive. Helped yesterday his wideouts went and made plays on the football, too.
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helluva playa, aina?
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helluva playa, aina?
Not there yet but until we saw a season out of him, judging him seemed silly. He has an opportunity to finish strong and clearly establish himself as the future QB. The schedule is soft outside KC and a trip to Minnysoda. I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs but I also didn’t think a month ago they’d be in consideration
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Not there yet but until we saw a season out of him, judging him seemed silly. He has an opportunity to finish strong and clearly establish himself as the future QB. The schedule is soft outside KC and a trip to Minnysoda. I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs but I also didn’t think a month ago they’d be in consideration
It's hard not to compare his 1st full season to Rodgers. They are performing similarly. Right now record wise, Love is on pace to outperform Rodgers. And if you compare the rosters, the 2008 Packers were a much better roster, especially on offense, with receivers Jennings, Driver, and James Jones, as well as rookie Jordy Nelson.
The current Packer receivers are young, and may grow into starts, but they are all works in progress, where Rodgers had two star level receivers in Jennings and Driver, and one could argue the top 3 receivers for Rodgers were better than the current Packers crew.
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How much does Fox suck that the packers were the only winning team that didnt get a turkey? Jordan and Rashan got screwed.
Just the dumbest controversy ever.
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Green Bay started slow. They have a very young team. They have stayed together and improved. Love is finding his way. Seems like solid coaching to me.
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Green Bay started slow. They have a very young team. They have stayed together and improved. Love is finding his way. Seems like solid coaching to me.
Given half the team is injured, yesterday may have been LaFleur’s best game
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We live in a simulation that needs some more processing power to generate more alternatives.
https://twitter.com/itszacharyj/status/1727819157226303941?t=fXxNqIyWib_Q6XqgQGV-Rg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/itszacharyj/status/1727819157226303941?t=fXxNqIyWib_Q6XqgQGV-Rg&s=19)
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Love is a likeable kid and I hope he continues to make progress the way he has the last few games
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/23/packers-win-over-lions-shows-how-far-jordan-love-and-offense-has-come/
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We live in a simulation that needs some more processing power to generate more alternatives.
https://twitter.com/itszacharyj/status/1727819157226303941?t=fXxNqIyWib_Q6XqgQGV-Rg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/itszacharyj/status/1727819157226303941?t=fXxNqIyWib_Q6XqgQGV-Rg&s=19)
I thought the person had their stats wrong, as they don't both have 21 Passing TDs, but then realized they are including rushing TDs, in which case they do indeed both have 21 total touchdowns.
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Gutey screws up a fair amount on draft choice but have to give him credit for Jaysen Reed
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/30/packers-giving-wr-jayden-reed-more-designed-touches-behind-line-of-scrimmage/
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https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1730250936311034167
"Since the Packers week six bye, Jordan Love is playing like a top-10 QB in the NFL. I look at what the trick shot maestro is doing that makes me think this is sustainable."
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Trade his azz.
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Definitely, heal neva bee worth more than now, hey?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/30/jordan-love-packers-offense-having-more-success-with-explosive-passes/
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Definitely, heal neva bee worth more than now, hey?
How menny duzzun timez did ewe screem too trayd #12's azz in 2008?
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https://www.packers.com/news/packers-qb-jordan-love-ready-for-second-crack-at-chiefs-defense
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I hope tswidt and Brittney mahomes get put in the top row like the chiefs did to Jordan’s mom
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Jaire Alexander out again. Peddle his azz
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Heckuva drive by 10, aina?
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Starting to look like the long term answer. Strong arm, mobile, good system.
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Offense looks completely different than even a couple weeks ago. So many more completions in space.
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Heckuva pass stepping up in the pocket by 10, aina?
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Extend his azz
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Would be great to get something out of this drive to end the half
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Well that was about as poorly as you can handle those last 3 downs.
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Well that was about as poorly as you can handle those last 3 downs.
Penalties are killers
Third down play left something to be desired
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Yeah that false start dismantled everything.
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MLF coached the most pants pissing scared you could be there. Wasting tons of clock, having his RB stay in bounds, and then punting after 1st and 10 from the KC 35. He deserves to lose after that BS.
Penalties are killers
Third down play left something to be desired
Run on 2nd down with a TO in hand if you’re gonna run for yardage for a manageable FG. And don’t run some gimmick inside pitch. Again, loser coaching looking like Nagy
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MLF coached the most pants pissing scared you could be there. Wasting tons of clock, having his RB stay in bounds, and then punting after 1st and 10 from the KC 35. He deserves to lose after that BS.
Run on 2nd down with a TO in hand if you’re gonna run for yardage for a manageable FG. And don’t run some gimmick inside pitch. Again, loser coaching looking like Nagy
Your language is more aggressive than I'd use...but you are not wrong.
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I like the strategy of letting Kelce run free. Very effective.
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Joe Barry, man
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I’d just run every play if I’m KC
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I’d just run every play if I’m KC
I dunno. Quay Walker usually stops them after 5-6 yards
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Joe Barry, man
Keeps calling zone defense even though KC has no game breaker.
Kinda like playing 2 down linemen against the Steelers as they were getting run over.
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I dunno. Quay Walker usually stops them after 5-6 yards
Blake Martinez is his hero.
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Heckuva drive by 10, aina?
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Blake Martinez is his hero.
Grandpa AJ would be proud
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Watson finally got his head out of his ass. Going to get that ball is what we’ve been asking all season.
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Heckuva drive by 10, aina?
That was an impressive 4th down pass. Just dropped it in the bucket.
Also, great TD throw. Very Rodgers/Favre-esque. Just gunned it to a place where only his guy could catch it.
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Barry won’t let them cover ANY tight end.
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On the 3rd and 15. If Reed keeps running the route, that was a TD. For some reason he stopped.
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Must score possession here
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The Packers have given up 19 points through well over 3 quarters to the Chiefs. Why all the crying about the defense?
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The Packers have given up 19 points through well over 3 quarters to the Chiefs. Why all the crying about the defense?
Well, they need a stop now. And only have made them punt once so far.
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The Packers have given up 19 points through well over 3 quarters to the Chiefs. Why all the crying about the defense?
I’ve just been whining about TE coverage. Been an issue all year.
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Also the 6 YPC by their RB
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Huh
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On the 3rd and 15. If Reed keeps running the route, that was a TD. For some reason he stopped.
Yea, he had the guy beat. Only thing I could think is that he saw Love scrambling and started to come back.
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Yea, he had the guy beat. Only thing I could think is that he saw Love scrambling and started to come back.
It was a designed rollout based on blocking
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Oh god he was just starting to get his crap together.
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Why not have that as a roll out, so worst case scenario, he can run for no loss, or something.
edit. Well, at least he still made the kick.
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Heckuva kick, aina?
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Unreal BS
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Not a Packer fan but that was a terrible call.
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Well, likely no fumble. But should be unnecessary roughness by Pacheco, and looked like a punch so might be ejected.
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Wow. Not a good last few plays for the refs.
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Wow. Not a good last few plays for the refs.
They've got just about every play wrong.
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Packers gotta QB
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Collingsworth pretty bummed mahomes couldn’t pull that out
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It was a designed rollout based on blocking
That's true. I thought Love had to scramble a little more, but my memory may be faulty.
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Collingsworth pretty bummed mahomes couldn’t pull that out
That seemed pretty mild for a Hail Mary. I don't think I've seen this much conversation about calls after a game since the Fail Mary.
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That seemed pretty mild for a Hail Mary. I don't think I've seen this much conversation about calls after a game since the Fail Mary.
And they completely ignore the horrendous “late hit” call. Embarrassing broadcast.
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https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
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https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
That's a classic.
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https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg (https://x.com/pftcommenter/status/1731529748491211059?s=46&t=WkEC4PHIg9TrMn0pYh5jAg)
It's funny, cause it's true.
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The refs didn't cover themselves in glory. No guarantee they're in striking distance if they didn't f the Jonathan Owens penalty. Chiefs had plenty of chances where you don't get to blame one call. Mahomes, to his credit, wears that proudly.
Big boy football tonight for GB
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Green Bay is currently the 7th seed. That is no way to tank and get the coach.and GM fired.
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Green Bay is currently the 7th seed. That is no way to tank and get the coach.and GM fired.
Having a good QB covers a lot of sins. Something did click though in the last month with the offensive line being better and the wideouts playing better. There are still deficiencies on the line but it’s been much better.
I’m pretty bullish on Kraft at TE as well. I won’t be surprised if he is better than Musgrave.
I’m not sure they have a bona fide, prototypical 1 at WR but 1-5 have been balling the last few weeks and making plays for their QB. Still a lot of work to do with regards to hot reads and scramble drill.
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Excellent Performance for Packers. In Playoff contention now.
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Having a good QB covers a lot of sins. Something did click though in the last month with the offensive line being better and the wideouts playing better. There are still deficiencies on the line but it’s been much better.
I’m pretty bullish on Kraft at TE as well. I won’t be surprised if he is better than Musgrave.
I’m not sure they have a bona fide, prototypical 1 at WR but 1-5 have been balling the last few weeks and making plays for their QB. Still a lot of work to do with regards to hot reads and scramble drill.
Perhaps a youthful team, through quality coaching, began to find its way.
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Perhaps a youthful team, through quality coaching, began to find its way.
We’ll see. They have a favorable schedule to end the year. NYG, Carolina, Tampa, Vikes & Bears. If they steal a playoff bid, LaFleur will be safe for awhile because after the stinker at home against Minnesota, they looked like a dead man walking. Credit to the staff, for sure
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Unless something completely falls apart, the whole crew is safe regardless.
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Unless something completely falls apart, the whole crew is safe regardless.
Including Barry. Which I'm still conflicted about. We aren't giving up many points, but there's still a lot of frustrating stuff.
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Crazy how much Collingsworth was cheerleading for Mahomes last night.
Collingsworth pretty bummed mahomes couldn’t pull that out
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Crazy how much Collingsworth was cheerleading for Mahomes last night.
He's obnoxious, but as a Packers fan, we've been on the other side of that for a long time.
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Crazy how much Collingsworth was cheerleading for Mahomes last night.
He used to cheerlead for Rogers and Farve and now he hates the Pakcers
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Crazy how much Collingsworth was cheerleading for Mahomes last night.
The league wants to promote its stars. That’s a good thing.
He was also very complimentary of Love and the Packers.
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Including Barry. Which I'm still conflicted about. We aren't giving up many points, but there's still a lot of frustrating stuff.
It's pretty hard to argue with the results yesterday. But I think that's the most frustrating thing about his style. It's a bend-but-not-break, but it can break a lot.
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Having a good QB covers a lot of sins. Something did click though in the last month with the offensive line being better and the wideouts playing better. There are still deficiencies on the line but it’s been much better.
I’m pretty bullish on Kraft at TE as well. I won’t be surprised if he is better than Musgrave.
I’m not sure they have a bona fide, prototypical 1 at WR but 1-5 have been balling the last few weeks and making plays for their QB. Still a lot of work to do with regards to hot reads and scramble drill.
Kraft has some Kittle to his game. Obviously no comparisons at this stage in his career, but he doesn't wow you with athleticism like Musgrave does, but there are a lot of little things that are starting to add up.
As far as receivers, I think Reed, Wicks are your two purest receivers in the long run. Watson is obviously the most talented, but TBD if he can sustain health and grow as a recevier.
Heath has a place on this team too. Doubs might be no better than 4.
With as hot as Watson can get, if this team maintains health and trajectory, they have a really, really bright future.
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True...
He used to cheerlead for Rogers and Farve and now he hates the Pakcers
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If Doubs is a #4, that’s a really great receiving core.
Kraft has some Kittle to his game. Obviously no comparisons at this stage in his career, but he doesn't wow you with athleticism like Musgrave does, but there are a lot of little things that are starting to add up.
As far as receivers, I think Reed, Wicks are your two purest receivers in the long run. Watson is obviously the most talented, but TBD if he can sustain health and grow as a recevier.
Heath has a place on this team too. Doubs might be no better than 4.
With as hot as Watson can get, if this team maintains health and trajectory, they have a really, really bright future.
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If Doubs is a #4, that’s a really great receiving core.
First time in a while that finding a receiver in the draft won't be important.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/06/packers-film-room-jordan-love-breaks-down-improbable-fourth-down-completion-to-romeo-doubs-vs-chiefs/
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Christian Watson out ; Hamstring.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/09/packers-will-be-without-wr-christian-watson-vs-giants/
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Win tonight. Make the next few weeks fascinating.
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Win tonight. Make the next few weeks fascinating.
DeVito probably throws for 400 yards tonight making him a NYC legend for a week or so. A week after beating KC, followed up by a loss to this Giants team is sort of how the NFL is playing out this year
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Aaron Jones out (Knee).
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/category/latest-packers-news/
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DeVito probably throws for 400 yards tonight making him a NYC legend for a week or so. A week after beating KC, followed up by a loss to this Giants team is sort of how the NFL is playing out this year
I've been wrong plenty but I really think GB wins by two scores tonight. Seems like the staff, Love, and some of the other young guys have figured some things out.
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Will be interesting to see how the wind speed affects the game.
If passing is too hazardous, not having Aaron Jones may be greatly missed.
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JaIRe Alexander and Quay Walker out again
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Why did they blow that play dead on the offsides?
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That PI call was interesting
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Not suspicious at all
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Ah, the dumbest team in football is back tonight
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4ever is playing?
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We’ve been the recipient of a lot of bad calls favoring us this year. More than makes up for those against us.
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Just got another one.
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1. Why didn’t the Giants challenge that spot?
2. What the hell was Kayvon doing for the Giants on that TD run?
The dumb has transferred
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Each team got a phantom first down tonight. Packers just did something with theirs.
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1. Why didn’t the Giants challenge that spot?
2. What the hell was Kayvon doing for the Giants on that TD run?
The dumb has transferred
My guess is that the league did a quick review so I don’t think the Giants could.
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Not very sharp night for Love
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Not very sharp night for Love
Downgraded to bad tonight
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Bad Jordan Love tonight. Can’t make that throw in the wind
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Education for a young QB. Playing in Green Bay, going to have to learn to adjust to a cold wind.
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1. Why didn’t the Giants challenge that spot?
2. What the hell was Kayvon doing for the Giants on that TD run?
The dumb has transferred
Booth reviewed. All turnovers.
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Booth reviewed. All turnovers.
Didn’t realize that on 4th downs
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I’m pretty sure the third down play before field goal would’ve been intercepted I had it not got tipped at the line.
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I’m pretty sure the third down play before field goal would’ve been intercepted I had it not got tipped at the line.
Sure looked like it
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🤦🏻♂️
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Pathetic
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Young team coming off a couple big wins decides they just have to show up.
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Back to a love shiit show, unmotivated team, specialty team mistakes.
And Aikman loves it.
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Is Kenny Clark active tonight?
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Love Stinks…
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Love Stinks…
Yeah yeah
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So much stupidity in this game.
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So much stupidity in this game.
Was a lot of dumb/bad football yesterday, too.
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Are punt return guys the stupidest guys on any football field??
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What the hell was Reed doing? That’s a corner route, lol
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What the hell was Reed doing? That’s a corner route, lol
Love finally makes a good throw,…
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Devito sacked a ton the last two games. Tonight he looks like Fran Fuccking Tarkenton. Thanks JBC.
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Devito sacked a ton the last two games. Tonight he looks like Fran Fuccking Tarkenton. Thanks JBC.
They’re rushing without lane discipline. That’s not Carrol’s fault.
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Yup, one of those nights
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Campbell on Robinson in coverage is a choice.
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Lafluer getting jobbed by Daboll two years in a row. And with a scrub QB.
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Campbell on Robinson in coverage is a choice.
DC having a bad half.
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Kicker sucks again, too
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Carlson had to make sure to throw his hat in the (circus) ring
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Actually embarrassed for the Packers tonight. Wont have to worry about making the playoffs.
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DC having a bad half.
He’ll be cut this off-season. Him and Bahk will open some cap room.
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He’ll be cut this off-season. Him and Bahk will open some cap room.
Could anders Carlson join them?
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Imagine that dude with a playoff game on the line
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Imagine that dude with a playoff game on the line
Some people think he’s the best player on the team
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Ok, that’s a big boy kick
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This game is blackout drunk
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Ok, that’s a big boy kick
It was a good kick. But he is also a slight breeze from being 1/4 on the night.
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This game is blackout drunk
It’s amazing that ratings are up when half the games are clown shows like this.
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Absolutely comical that the ref took 20 minutes to get up and then has to make the call. Unreal catch by Heath
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I’m screaming at the TV “don’t run it”.
Oh well. Go to the play that has been blown up about 5 yards in a row.
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Fire Joe Barry Carroll NOW!
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Packers defense is a joke. Fire JBC
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Keisan Nixon going to have a long flight home
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Prevent defense with no pressure on the QB with the game on the line.
A joke.
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All 3 facets of the game were a coaching malfeasance
Special teams penalties and the fumbled punt
Too cute play calling
Defensive chicken shnizzle the second half
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MLF is like me finding a play I like in Madden with the Reed running plays.
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Matty is just mad he can't call another jet sweep tonight
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Boy are we finding out that Nixon was a fart in the wind.
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Embarrassing loss. Giants suck. Time to move on from Love, LaFluer, and JBC
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Pretty piss poor effort tonight.
A young team finding out they can’t just show up and get a win.
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Embarrassing loss. Giants suck. Time to move on from Love, LaFluer, and JBC
Cmon. They’re not moving on from Love and LeFleur.
Barry? I hope but doubtful.
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Cmon. They’re not moving on from Love and LeFleur.
Barry? I hope but doubtful.
Last place schedule still in play if they play their cards right
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Keisan Nixon going to have a long flight home
His ass should be cut. Move on. He hasn’t covered all year. His only value is if he’s making big returns, which he hasn’t done all year.
We’re finding out why he was an unwanted, minimum salary FA in ‘22 that even the crappy Raiders didn’t want anymore.
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You lost to Tommy fuccking Devito on his third start, really?
Cmon. They’re not moving on from Love and LeFleur.
Barry? I hope but doubtful.
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They just never keep other teams running slightly under control with Barry. Every blessed week they just get gashed defending the run. That points to one guy.
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You lost to Tommy fuccking Devito on his third start, really?
It’s like you’ve never watched a young football team before. I remember Aaron Rodgers losing to a truly awful Jags team quarterbacked by David Garrard. This is what happens.
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I will give Love some credit. As awful as he was all night with accuracy, decisions, etc., he didn’t let it shake his confidence to make a couple of really nice throws to Heath that were not easy.
A bright spot for him in an otherwise terrible performance. But successful qb’s have to have that bounce back ability regardless what’s happened in the game.
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So we should celebrate that our QB got to learn 3 years under Rodgers and play 13 games and lose to a QB who was not drafted and amazing in his 3rd start.
EMBARRASING
It’s like you’ve never watched a young football team before. I remember Aaron Rodgers losing to a truly awful Jags team quarterbacked by David Garrard. This is what happens.
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Matty is just mad he can't call another jet sweep tonight
The two pt conversion attempt the Giants knew that was coming. Terrible play call there.
Not to mention, just plain difficult for that to work at the goal line even if the opponent is fooled by the call.
LaFleur was as awful as everyone else was tonight.
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Packers have room for improvement.
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EMBARRSING LOSS, almost little Marq’s effort against Bucky.
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EMBARRSING LOSS, almost little Marq’s effort against Bucky.
I hate em with every fiber, but on a relative basis Bucky is a LOT better than the New York football Giants, especially one being QBed by a walk on.
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So we should celebrate that our QB got to learn 3 years under Rodgers and play 13 games and lose to a QB who was not drafted and amazing in his 3rd start.
EMBARRASING
I agree, Love had terrible coverage on the final drive - put a real damper on his GW drive.
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So we should celebrate that our QB got to learn 3 years under Rodgers and play 13 games and lose to a QB who was not drafted and amazing in his 3rd start.
EMBARRASING
Good lord. Where did I say they should “celebrate” anything?
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LaFleur just called another WR sweep...
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Looks like Reed had space there
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Middle of the field always wide open against the Packers
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Middle of the field always wide open against the Packers
Every pass play has been to an uncovered receiver except for the screen pass.
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Every pass play has been to an uncovered receiver except for the screen pass.
Hard to guard the high octane Buccs offense
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The Nixon era coming to a close soon.
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Security should walk Joe Barry Carroll out of the stadium now while a win is still in reach.
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The Nixon era coming to a close soon.
Yup. After LT, cornerback and safety are the biggest needs in the draft.
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What can you do? Baker Mayfield is a magician
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Heckuva drive by 10, aina? Sadly, the defense has to come back out
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Reed has been an excellent draft choice for The Packers.
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Packers D is a joke. Way to many wide open receivers.
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Absolutely laughable seeing Campbell get matched up with Godwin in the slot. If I’m Tampa I’m just running slot seams all game.
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Baker Mayfield 20-26, 318, 3TDs
If Bryce Young is ever going to have a breakout game, it’s next week
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JBC needs to go.
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Absolutely laughable seeing Campbell get matched up with Godwin in the slot. If I’m Tampa I’m just running slot seams all game.
The defensive genius in the booth thought he could trick the Bucs by making it look too easy.
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Dear lord another wide open throw down the middle where it’s only Quay and Campbell
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Absolutely pathetic
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JBC tricked ‘em again.
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The linebackers are so bad. Quay Walker is terrible.
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Baker Mayfield has a perfect QB rating and has thrown for 381 yards and 4 TDs. Bake freaking Mayfield
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Just like he did with the Panthers.
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Fun couple weeks against the lions and chiefs
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With the game on the line, Bowles blitzes. JBC rushes 3 and drops to a zone with no one in the middle.
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Fun couple weeks against the lions and chiefs
The good news is, they can still get that last place schedule and a better draft pick on which Gutes will pick the worst possible player from Georgia
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Just like he did with the Panthers.
Young should have a career game next week.
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Baker Mayfield did not have room for improvement
Packers have room for improvement
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Just embarrassing effort on D.
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With the game on the line, Bowles blitzes. JBC rushes 3 and drops to a zone with no one in the middle.
Yep. How many times was Tampa in a 3rd and 4 about today and finding the Packers in a soft zone playing well off the receivers. Even Mayfield is going to pick that apart.
Barry is terrible and LaFleur a clown for keeping him. This is his staff. Just like he wouldn’t fire Drayton.
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And LB's continue to cover WR's...
Yep. How many times was Tampa in a 3rd and 4 about today and finding the Packers in a soft zone playing well off the receivers. Even Mayfield is going to pick that apart.
Barry is terrible and LaFleur a clown for keeping him. This is his staff. Just like he wouldn’t fire Drayton.
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Offenses use motion and scheme to get those match ups. Much like in basketball where the pick and roll is used to get mismatches.
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I’ve been whining about Joe Barry Carroll calling zone defenses all year. According to Next Gen Stats, Mayfield went 20-of-24 for 361 yards and three touchdowns against zone coverage.
And JBC stuck with it. Coaching genius!
He had a proven record as a bad coordinator before coming to GB. he has built on that legacy.
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Security should walk Joe Barry Carroll out of the stadium now while a win is still in reach.
Did I miss something? What's the Carroll? An homage to notable Packers disappointment Ahmad Carroll?
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Purdue Center and NBA player of the 80s and 90s.
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Is joe barry the wojo of the packers?
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Is joe barry the wojo of the packers?
I think it's just part of being the DC of the Packers.
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Did I miss something? What's the Carroll? An homage to notable Packers disappointment Ahmad Carroll?
Joe Barry Carroll was a very good college and NBA center (20 ppg and 8.5 rb in his first 6 NBA seasons).
But he was always considered a disappointment because of his high skill level - people thought he should dominate. Often criticized for his effort. Nicknames included “Joe Barely Cares” or “Just Barely Carroll.”
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Feel like if Barry was getting canned it would’ve happened today.
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Feel like if Barry was getting canned it would’ve happened today.
I'm expecting MLF to keep him through the end of the year. That seems to be the way he does things. Also, I think Barry's contract is up after this year. May be easy for all parties to have a clean break.
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Yeah he just said in his press conference he’s not going to fire him.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/19/miscommunication-at-root-of-packers-defensive-issues-starts-with-coaching/
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Defense was the primary cause of the TB loss.
But credit Baker Mayfield. He put the ball where it had to be.
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Little Flower backing up JBC and blaming players, then he can go too..
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/19/miscommunication-at-root-of-packers-defensive-issues-starts-with-coaching/
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Little Flower backing up JBC and blaming players, then he can go too..
I read it was mostly blaming the coaching staff for not setting the players up for success by having poor communication.
I chuckled when MLF mentioned the soft zones on 3rd and 3/4. Like those aren't half the reason people want Barry gone and are all too common.
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Defense was the primary cause of the TB loss.
But credit Baker Mayfield. He put the ball where it had to be.
Every NFL QB ( and backup) can hit wide open receivers. I read that the AVERAGE distance of the nearest GB defender on pass plays was 4.7 yards.
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I read it was mostly blaming the coaching staff for not setting the players up for success by having poor communication.
I chuckled when MLF mentioned the soft zones on 3rd and 3/4. Like those aren't half the reason people want Barry gone and are all too common.
I see a different reason why he didn’t fire JBC, and it is rather ominous.
He would have to be replaced by someone already on the defensive staff and maybe Matt didn’t think any of the assistants were up to the task. I would certainly concur with that especially watching how bad the communication was and how many times that guys were completely out of position.
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Jaire and De’vondre spicing things up
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Lotsa speculation on JBC's job security, but knot sure MLF's return iz a given, aina?
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Every NFL QB ( and backup) can hit wide open receivers. I read that the AVERAGE distance of the nearest GB defender on pass plays was 4.7 yards.
So every QB that’s played against GB this year has had a perfect QB rating? That has to be a record, a’ina?
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Lotsa speculation on JBC's job security, but knot sure MLF's return iz a given, aina?
Not sure about that, but I'd be fine with it.
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Not sure about that, but I'd be fine with it.
I think he gets another year. Although, if he tries to bring Barry back, he probably should be gone.
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I think he gets another year. Although, if he tries to bring Barry back, he probably should be gone.
Yeah this is where I am.
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Some quality players should be playing versus Panthers
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/22/packers-expecting-to-have-both-aaron-jones-and-a-j-dillon-vs-panthers/
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/22/packers-hopeful-cb-jaire-alexander-will-play-vs-panthers/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/23/packers-panthers-preview-defense-chuba-hubbard-tj-slaton-joe-barry/
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Movable object against the Resistible Force
Packers defense against the Panthers offense with a side of a terrible Packers special teams
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I think it's in Kraft's contract to attempt a hurdle on every catch.
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I think it's in Kraft's contract to attempt a hurdle on every catch.
lol came here to post the same thing.
Shocked that young found a wide open TE down the middle of the field for a big gain.
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One quarter = 3 major STs mistakes.
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And giving up easy third and longs to a rookie QB. Hmmm….
Zero sacks against the QB who has been sacked the most in the league. Hmmm
JBC blows.
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I read JBC’s lips when they showed him. I swear he said, “leave the middle open”.
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You can’t expect to slow down the Panthers all game with the collection of playmakers they have
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Color guy is 1 for2 with his musical references.
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And giving up easy third and longs to a rookie QB. Hmmm….
Zero sacks against the QB who has been sacked the most in the league. Hmmm
JBC blows.
I thought we had a sack on the first drive.
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I thought we had a sack on the first drive.
They did. Young missed some throws on that drive that were open.
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Packers have to make decision on Jordan Love fifth year shortly after the NFL draft .
I hope they can find another team willing to trade for him .
There are plenty of proven quarterbacks out there
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/07/jordan-loves-fifth-year-option-worth-20-27-million-in-2024/
Lol
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I really like Love, but worried he's getting a little lucky with balls across the middle. He is lucky some of his WRs aren't getting laid out.
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Plus he ain't no kolekin' good, hey?
lol
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This is shaping up to be Joe Barry's Mona Lisa.
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This is shaping up to be Joe Barry's Mona Lisa.
Refused to rush more than 4.
Drop into a zone.
But this is 100% on MLF. He looked at the collapse of his defense and said let’s keep doing what we’re doing.
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Trade Jaire for a bag of donuts
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Excellent game winner for Carlson
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This is shaping up to be Joe Barry's Mona Lisa.
Season high points for the panthers
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Excellent game winner for Carlson
Thanks to the QB you wanted traded
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Joe Barry Carroll tried to choke again. Rush 3 and play zone to give Carolina a chance.
As bad as JBC was the last 2 weeks, this was worse.
Would have been the #1 all time GB choke.
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The rush on the second to last play made the Pro Bowl look intense.
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DeVito.
Mayberry.
Young.
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I assume the GB realtors are like buzzards waiting to get listing for JBC's house in GB...
Joe Barry Carroll tried to choke again. Rush 3 and play zone to give Carolina a chance.
As bad as JBC was the last 2 weeks, this was worse.
Would have been the #1 all time GB choke.
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Based on his resume, I bet he rents rather than buys.
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In the final 2 games, Love needs 413 yards and 3 TDs for a 4,000 yard, 30 TD season.
The Bears have never had either.
Love will have done this with the youngest receiver group in NFL history
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In the final 2 games, Love needs 413 yards and 3 TDs for a 4,000 yard, 30 TD season.
The Bears have never had either.
Love will have done this with the youngest receiver group in NFL history
Love has great harmony with his receiver core . Hopefully Watson and Reed are back foe the next two games .
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In the final 2 games, Love needs 413 yards and 3 TDs for a 4,000 yard, 30 TD season.
The Bears have never had either.
Love will have done this with the youngest receiver group in NFL history
Do you think the Packers should trade him?
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Do you think the Packers should trade him?
For a used jockstrap.
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For a used jockstrap.
Let me ask some ball knowers
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Do you think the Packers should trade him?
For Fields
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For Fields
Or Mullens. Or Dobbs. Or Zach Wilson. Maybe Arod wants to come back. Mac Jones?
Love was healthy all year. In his first year as a starter. Continued to improve and put up some excellent numbers. Like it or not, the number of available upgrades are few. Get some o-line help and some defensive playmakers.
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Or Mullens. Or Dobbs. Or Zach Wilson. Maybe Arod wants to come back. Mac Jones?
Love was healthy all year. In his first year as a starter. Continued to improve and put up some excellent numbers. Like it or not, the number of available upgrades are few. Get some o-line help and some defensive playmakers.
Completely agree. At the start of the year, I thought he would be a bust. But I think he will be starting in GB for years to come.
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Was traveling all day so missed this game. Looks like Bryce Young had his career day, so thanks to the Packers for that. But the Panthers are still the Panthers, so you're welcome to all Packer backers.
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Aaron Rodgers looking to bring talent to Jets
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39164677/aaron-rodgers-new-york-jets-recruit-davante-adams-2024
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39179654/packers-get-dude-aaron-jones-back-just
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As I said, I didn't see the game, but the Panthers are whining about getting hosed by the refs all day, especially on a couple of key calls at the end.
True, or just a bunch of whiny losers sounding like whiny losers?
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Was traveling all day so missed this game. Looks like Bryce Young had his career day, so thanks to the Packers for that. But the Panthers are still the Panthers, so you're welcome to all Packer backers.
I didn’t see one play either, but thank you that your Panthers drove either another or maybe the final nail in the coffin of Joe Barry’s awful tenure as our d-coordinator. Not trying to sound like an a-hole but your Panthers offensive struggles are well documented so a bright spot yesterday for them I am very pleased with.
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As I said, I didn't see the game, but the Panthers are whining about getting hosed by the refs all day, especially on a couple of key calls at the end.
True, or just a bunch of whiny losers sounding like whiny losers?
Couple marginal calls. No more than usual.
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I didn’t see one play either, but thank you that your Panthers drove either another or maybe the final nail in the coffin of Joe Barry’s awful tenure as our d-coordinator. Not trying to sound like an a-hole but your Panthers offensive struggles are well documented so a bright spot yesterday for them I am very pleased with.
Calling the Panthers' offense "struggling" is not an insult to me or even them. It's just a fact!
I'm sure they're glad to help you get a new DC.
Couple marginal calls. No more than usual.
You know me ... I don't think refs calls decide outcomes 99.99% of the time. I mean, how about don't fall behind by 2 touchdowns and have to go into desperation mode?
Just saying that folks here are talking about bad calls. Since writing that first email, I watched a couple of key plays on replay. The catch on 3rd-and-4 on the winning drive ... looked like a possible blown call but not sure how reviews could overturn call on the field. The spike at the end ... maybe there was a second left and maybe not, maybe the Packers held Thielen to prevent him from handing the ball to the umpire a second quicker but that happens all the time.
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I mean it’s the Carolina Panthers. They have like five fans. Who really cares.
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I mean it’s the Carolina Panthers. They have like five fans. Who really cares.
As 20% of the fanbase, I do! (Actually, even I don't really care that much these days.)
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Normal calls for a game predominantly attended by packer fans.
Dez caught it.
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maybe the Packers held Thielen to prevent him from handing the ball to the umpire a second quicker but that happens all the time.
This is why I want the clock to stop until the ball is set on first downs with 2 minutes left.
This kind of crap happens all the time. A game should not be won or lost because dudes are on the ground holding the ball, or the refs take a second to long to set the ball.
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What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.
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What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/packers-suspend-jaire-alexander-coin-toss-debacle
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What a sad shell of himself Jaire has become.
I mean, Rasul, DeVondre, and now Jaire have all had problems with the coaches this year.
Should tell you plenty.
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I mean, Rasul, DeVondre, and now Jaire have all had problems with the coaches this year.
Should tell you plenty.
Every team has its loose cannons when you’re carrying over 60 guys between the 53 and practice squad. But I agree it may well be something bigger than just that going on with the Packers. If LaFleur had a strong handle over the locker room, I don’t think Alexander pulls what he did.
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Which is weird because he has the reputation of actually being very good in the locker room. The fact that all of these conflicts are with members of the defense, and his failure to deal with that on a coaching level last year, is his biggest issue IMO. Continuously playing this passive style and getting roasted both on the field and in the media can't feel great as a player.
I can't see anyway that Joe Barry is back next year. I wouldn't mind taking a look at Al Harris down in Dallas even though he hasn't been coaching for a long time. Their backfield has been sensational with him as their DB coach and that Quinn type of defense is I think more what the Packers should be playing anyway.
And this is what I don't understand about the Barry hire. The job was originally offered to Jim Leonhard, who clearly comes from the Rex Ryan philosophy, yet Barry's is completely different. It felt like the organization wasn't on the same page regarding what they wanted on the defensive side of the ball and this type of chaos is what resulted.
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https://twitter.com/IKE_Packers/status/1740131390501355843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1740131390501355843%7Ctwgr%5E18df20fabc32f416fb45554763b61dc1b70e1df7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsonline.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fnfl%2Fpackers%2F2023%2F12%2F27%2Fgreen-bay-packers-suspend-jaire-alexander-pat-mcafee-show-jj-watt-aj-hawk-nfl-world-react%2F72041118007%2F
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Which is weird because he has the reputation of actually being very good in the locker room. The fact that all of these conflicts are with members of the defense, and his failure to deal with that on a coaching level last year, is his biggest issue IMO. Continuously playing this passive style and getting roasted both on the field and in the media can't feel great as a player.
I can't see anyway that Joe Barry is back next year. I wouldn't mind taking a look at Al Harris down in Dallas even though he hasn't been coaching for a long time. Their backfield has been sensational with him as their DB coach and that Quinn type of defense is I think more what the Packers should be playing anyway.
And this is what I don't understand about the Barry hire. The job was originally offered to Jim Leonhard, who clearly comes from the Rex Ryan philosophy, yet Barry's is completely different. It felt like the organization wasn't on the same page regarding what they wanted on the defensive side of the ball and this type of chaos is what resulted.
Not only does it not feel good, it will end up affecting them financially. Two Pro Bowl players have looked pretty bad because the scheme is... outdated and also terrible.
Barry should have never been hired after he helped coach a team that went 0-16. I screamed about it when they hired him. Barry's results speak for themselves, and now he has unruly players.
I GET not firing him, but if there isn't accountability for for performance from staff... it's hard to punish players and look like a serious front office.
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Not only does it not feel good, it will end up affecting them financially. Two Pro Bowl players have looked pretty bad because the scheme is... outdated and also terrible.
Barry should have never been hired after he helped coach a team that went 0-16. I screamed about it when they hired him. Barry's results speak for themselves, and now he has unruly players.
I GET not firing him, but if there isn't accountability for for performance from staff... it's hard to punish players and look like a serious front office.
What do you get? Defensive players are in rebellion and you don't understand why he should be fired..., yesterday?
As I said earlier, MLF is a great OC as a head coach. He is not a CEO.
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I think he means he gets why MLF shouldn't be fired. And I don't think he should.
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What do you get? Defensive players are in rebellion and you don't understand why he should be fired..., yesterday?
As I said earlier, MLF is a great OC as a head coach. He is not a CEO.
Joe Barry should have been fired into the sun last year. They're not firing him for the rest of year because the scheme would be the same and no one on the defensive side will likely be back next year. Also, I don't disagree with you. I think NOT firing Joe Barry sends a bad message to the players and the fans.
MLF is in charge of his coordinators, that isn't a Mark Murphy or Brian Gutekunst decision. It's Matt's. He needs to be smarter in the future because he isn't looking like a head coach or leader right now.
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I think he means he gets why MLF shouldn't be fired. And I don't think he should.
Aaah. I thought he meant JBC.
I agree. I would not fire MLF. But, I think Gutey does need to sit him down this offseason and work on the leadership aspect of being a HC.
This is a very important off-season. Some vets need to go and the draft should be a bonanza (1st, two 2nds, two 3rds, two 4ths). More youth next year. The HC needs to establish a team wide culture - something that he hasn't done a lot of, IMO.
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Joe Barry should have been fired into the sun last year. They're not firing him for the rest of year because the scheme would be the same and no one on the defensive side will likely be back next year. Also, I don't disagree with you. I think NOT firing Joe Barry sends a bad message to the players and the fans.
MLF is in charge of his coordinators, that isn't a Mark Murphy or Brian Gutekunst decision. It's Matt's. He needs to be smarter in the future because he isn't looking like a head coach or leader right now.
I agree with all of your post.
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I think the optics of a head coaching change would be bad around the league, but I'm not opposed.
Outsider's view and all... But I think having 12 hanging over every decision, often changing plays, etc. has limited the amount of authority MLF has been able to enact. He was often too deferential to the quarterback and I'm not sure he's found his footing again. Which with such a young group makes me nervous.
Then there's the issue of hiring his buddies and not being quick enough to make a change when they suck as coordinators...
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The only "buddy" I see remaining is Tom Clements, who I think has been instrumental to the growth of Jordan Love.
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Chit can MLF and hire T-Cube's BIL, hey?
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The only "buddy" I see remaining is Tom Clements, who I think has been instrumental to the growth of Jordan Love.
I think he meant MLF's buddies. I'm not sure how many of his hires have been objectively bad hires at the time, but he coached with them before other than Barry.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/31/vikings-kick-and-punt-return-units-present-tall-task-for-packers-special-teams/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/31/vikings-kick-and-punt-return-units-present-tall-task-for-packers-special-teams/
What drivel!
Every team presents a big challenge for GBs Special Teams.
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Panthers are into the 4th and have 26 net passing yards. Feels like that should be an indictment of something
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Panthers are into the 4th and have 26 net passing yards. Feels like that should be an indictment of something
And Devito is benched.
Defense has quit playing for JBC completely. Hopefully they clean house on the defensive side of the ball. Half the starters should be gone.
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Mason misses two huge kicks that would have let the Packers control (piss away) their own destiny.
Telling myself it's all worth it when Barry is banished to a Russian high rise.
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Packers could finish last in the division. Finish third and the Jets come to town next year. 😬😬😬
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Packers could finish last in the division. Finish third and the Jets come to town next year. 😬😬😬
1. Want them to win tonight. Make next week matter is good for them experience wise
2. But, if they lose, and end up in last, last place schedule next year is nice
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Panthers score zero today after scoring 30 on the Packers. Hopefully little flower can fire his buddy JBC.
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Packers need this win tonight . Otherwise the final game with Bears becomes the Toilet Bowl
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Remember that time Christian Watson was active for a game?
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Remember the last time Christian Watson actually started a game but pulled a hammy in the game?
Porcelain doll…
Remember that time Christian Watson was active for a game?
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Of course Crosby misses a FG for NYG that would have given the Packers control of their playoff destiny.
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Of course Crosby misses a FG for NYG that would have given the Packers control of their playoff destiny.
Thanks to the Steelers, I think we do now.
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The Packers control their destiny. Impressive for a team with a terrible coach, terrible defensive coordinator, terrible quarterback, and terrible players.
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The Packers control their destiny. Impressive for a team with a terrible coach, terrible defensive coordinator, terrible quarterback, and terrible players.
The DC is definitely terrible
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Reed is a fun player to watch. Excellent draft choice .
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That Vikings FG would have been good from 64
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Old enough to remember people saying the kicker was the best player on the Packers.
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Beautiful Catch and run by Reed
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Love looks so much more comfortable the second half of the season. It's been fun to watch him develop. Although, it would have been nice to have that 4th down throw back.
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Love looks so much more comfortable the second half of the season. It's been fun to watch him develop. Although, it would have been nice to have that 4th down throw back.
Hard to believe Herm wanted to trade him.
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QB is set in Green Bay for awhile
Anyone want to pull receipts?
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Win and in against Chicago at Lambeau. Good for Green Bay.
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Love looks so much more comfortable the second half of the season. It's been fun to watch him develop. Although, it would have been nice to have that 4th down throw back.
Game has slowed down for Love. Teammates have confidence in him.
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Game has slowed down for Love. Teammates have confidence in him.
Remember when you said they should trade him?
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Great defensive effort today. I’d give Joe Barry some more run.
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QB is set in Green Bay for awhile
Anyone want to pull receipts?
It’s been fun to watch things start to click for him.
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It’s been fun to watch things start to click for him.
Yeah, he’s been so much better since the end of October. Not sure what changed.
I’ll say this, the o-line has been as good as Love since November 1st and that helps a lot. Luke Butkus and Adam Stenavich have done some work
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That Jack Links ad was crazy on Peacock
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Who else had Bo Melton as the first Packers WR to hit the 100 yard mark in a game this season
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Who else had Bo Melton as the first Packers WR to hit the 100 yard mark in a game this season
This more than anything is why Love's work seems sustainable. It's not like he had his entire supporting cast the last half of the year.
He was arguably without his 2 best WRs, his 3rd went out with injury, plus his starting TE. This stretch has seen him without his RB1, throwing to 1st and 2nd year UDFAs.
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If the Packers win, they are in. Assuming that...
Rams beat SF, GB is the seven seed.
Rams lose, GB is the 6 seed.
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Why this years Packers Win and Get in game could be different than last years
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39222413/why-packers-win-get-game-different-jordan-love-chicago-bears-playoffs
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/02/matt-lafleur-facing-bears-in-season-finale-will-be-tremendous-challenge-for-packers/
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From The Athletic:
When the Packers played the Vikings in Week 8, Brian Flores and his unique blitzing defense had Love flummoxed. Love completed less than 60 percent of his passes, threw an interception and was sacked four times. The Packers only scored 10 points.
This week, Love completed 72 percent of his passes and threw three touchdown passes, he wasn’t intercepted or sacked once, and the Packers scored 33 points. The game showcased how much Love has progressed this season but LaFleur aided his young quarterback with an excellent gameplan that attacked areas that they weren’t able to take advantage of in their first matchup. For example, they were highly efficient on rhythm throws to outside breaking routes.
Love also took advantage of the Vikings’ defense by standing strong in the pocket while quickly getting through his progressions on vertical concepts.
On several plays in this game, Love threw deep off his back foot. The Packers likely knew that they could pop some receivers wide open if they could buy some time. Love trusted the game plan and executed at a high level. He’s made some massive strives throughout the season.
Stoopid Packers. Shoulda traded this garbage QB for a box o' rox when they had the chance.
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This is reason number one why I don't think the Packers should (or will) move on from MLF. In fact the notion is very silly regardless of what happens Sunday. Love has developed significantly under him (and Tom Clements, who I hope sticks around forever) and they have developed game plans against both Detroit and Minnesota to take advantage of what gave them trouble before.
Yeah I think they need a new defensive coordinator. Pretty sure that won't happen if they finish 9-8 though.
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This is reason number one why I don't think the Packers should (or will) move on from MLF. In fact the notion is very silly regardless of what happens Sunday. Love has developed significantly under him (and Tom Clements, who I hope sticks around forever) and they have developed game plans against both Detroit and Minnesota to take advantage of what gave them trouble before.
Yeah I think they need a new defensive coordinator. Pretty sure that won't happen if they finish 9-8 though.
MLF is going nowhere, as you say.
But Barry is gone. MLF is just a year too late - as he was with ST
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MLF is going nowhere, as you say.
But Barry is gone. MLF is just a year too late - as he was with ST
IMHO they should conduct a thorough top to bottom review of the defensive coaching staff and special teams as well. Unless they catch lightning in a bottle and with the superbowl (they will not), then I would be in favor of moving on from Barry and potentially letting his replacement clean house down staff. Similarly, I'm not convinced the efforts taken to date to fix ST have borne fruit, and I wouldn't be averse to moving in a different direction there as well.
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From The Athletic:
When the Packers played the Vikings in Week 8, Brian Flores and his unique blitzing defense had Love flummoxed. Love completed less than 60 percent of his passes, threw an interception and was sacked four times. The Packers only scored 10 points.
This week, Love completed 72 percent of his passes and threw three touchdown passes, he wasn’t intercepted or sacked once, and the Packers scored 33 points. The game showcased how much Love has progressed this season but LaFleur aided his young quarterback with an excellent gameplan that attacked areas that they weren’t able to take advantage of in their first matchup. For example, they were highly efficient on rhythm throws to outside breaking routes.
Love also took advantage of the Vikings’ defense by standing strong in the pocket while quickly getting through his progressions on vertical concepts.
On several plays in this game, Love threw deep off his back foot. The Packers likely knew that they could pop some receivers wide open if they could buy some time. Love trusted the game plan and executed at a high level. He’s made some massive strives throughout the season.
Stoopid Packers. Shoulda traded this garbage QB for a box o' rox when they had the chance.
Anyone still think Adrian Griffin is tits, hey?
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Anyone still think Adrian Griffin is tits, hey?
When did the Packers hire him, hey?
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Anyone still think Adrian Griffin is tits, hey?
1. Who said that?
2. You were screaming non-stop for the Bucks to trade Giannis not long before they won the NBA title.
3. This is the Packers' thread.
4. Why won't Ackman call for his plagiarist wife to resign?
Hey?
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1. Who said that?
2. You were screaming non-stop for the Bucks to trade Giannis not long before they won the NBA title.
3. This is the Packers' thread.
4. Why won't Ackman call for his plagiarist wife to resign?
Hey?
4ever hates all the Wisconsin teams -Bucks, Brewers, MU, etc.
Don’t know why he is even on Scoop other than to troll.
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Bucks aren't goin' anywhere with #0, #34, #22, and this coach, aina?
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4ever hates all the Wisconsin teams -Bucks, Brewers, MU, etc.
Don’t know why he is even on Scoop other than to troll.
There is a special breed of sports fans that are happiest when their teams lose so they can complain and be right.
I have a friend I regularly attend Bucks and Brewers games with and he’s the same way. It’s exhausting to be around that kind of negativity. I mean, look at 4elder’s activity on the main board. As soon as Marquette has a rough patch, there he is telling everyone this team can’t or won’t. Take up bingo
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What kind of contract extension will Love get this off-season?
My guess is 4 years (give or take) and $35 - $45 Mil. I lean towards the higher figure.
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What kind of contract extension will Love get this off-season?
My guess is 4 years (give or take) and $35 - $45 Mil. I lean towards the higher figure.
He's played well, and doesn't have a lot around him. I think even your high end is very low.
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He's played well, and doesn't have a lot around him. I think even your high end is very low.
It could be a bit low. Daniel Jones set the bar at $40 mil for a middling QB.
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My guess is he gets Daniel Jones or better AAV over about 5 years without a lot of guarantees, with a lot of escalators for performance, and with at least one or two "off ramp" type moments where the team could move on without devastating cap hits or conversely extend and increase guarantees/up front signing $ if warranted.
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It could be a bit low. Daniel Jones set the bar at $40 mil for a middling QB.
Love is significantly better than Daniel Jones.
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There is a special breed of sports fans that are happiest when their teams lose so they can complain and be right.
I have a friend I regularly attend Bucks and Brewers games with and he’s the same way. It’s exhausting to be around that kind of negativity. I mean, look at 4elder’s activity on the main board. As soon as Marquette has a rough patch, there he is telling everyone this team can’t or won’t. Take up bingo
The minute I started becoming jaded about sports I took a break until I could enjoy them again. Does watching with hope and optimism result in more disappointment? Of course. But it is no way to live.
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The minute I started becoming jaded about sports I took a break until I could enjoy them again. Does watching with hope and optimism result in more disappointment? Of course. But it is no way to live.
Expecting a return greater than the investment you put into your sports fandom is a recipe for disappointment.
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Bucks aren't goin' anywhere with #0, #34, #22, and this coach, aina?
Packers thread.
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My guess is he gets Daniel Jones or better AAV over about 5 years without a lot of guarantees, with a lot of escalators for performance, and with at least one or two "off ramp" type moments where the team could move on without devastating cap hits or conversely extend and increase guarantees/up front signing $ if warranted.
Yep, agree
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Packers thread.
Throw #11 into da dumper too with the other guys. Terrible roster construction, aina?
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The minute I started becoming jaded about sports I took a break until I could enjoy them again. Does watching with hope and optimism result in more disappointment? Of course. But it is no way to live.
One of my all time favorite tweets...
https://twitter.com/TylerIAm/status/1173680782281510912?lang=en
Some people call it fair weather, but I agree. One of the healthiest things Ive done is lessen my viewing/investment when a team is in a hopeless stretch. I rarely watched the last 2 years of the John Fox Bears tenure, and I was living in Chicago at the time. I went to every Wojo home game I was in Wisconsin for, but watched less and less road games after 2019. My love of the teams didn't change, but the return was just worth getting annoyed or upset about.
I think those times are what made Shaka's first year, and to a lesser extend the Bears last year, so fun. Reset expectations to just enjoying watching your team and finding positives and being hopeful for fun/good results.
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Yeah if you aren't getting joy out of sports, what exactly is the point?
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For some it’s the misery that’s appealing
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Yeah if you aren't getting joy out of sports, what exactly is the point?
New here?
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/06/packers-activate-rookie-te-luke-musgrave-from-ir-before-playing-bears/
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Sure seemed like Christian Watson was tending towards playing…alas he simply can’t be considered remotely close to an impact player until he can prove he can actually get on the field.
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Panthers scored 30 against GB. In 7 quarters since, they have scored 0.
Does anyone trust Joe Barry Carroll with the season on the line?
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Panthers scored 30 against GB. In 7 quarters since, they have scored 0.
Does anyone trust Joe Barry Carroll with the season on the line?
Absolutely not
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Packers best player is the kicker
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Packers best player is the kicker
if he doesn't cost them the game today he's definitely going to blow it in the playoffs.
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if he doesn't cost them the game today he's definitely going to blow it in the playoffs.
Right now, the bears look more like the team that wants to win.
In big games you can't drop passes in the end zone, and miss FGs.
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Decision to cut Crosby may be biggest factor if they miss playoffs. What makes it worse is that he wasn’t beaten out for the job.
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Decision to cut Crosby may be biggest factor if they miss playoffs. What makes it worse is that he wasn’t beaten out for the job.
I was told on Scoop that Carlson was the only player worth not trading for a used bike
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I have no idea how this game is going to turn out.
But this offense is going to be good for awhile and Love is going to be a perennial pro bowler
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I was told on Scoop that Carlson was the only player worth not trading for a used bike
dude could only get it down to the 10 yard line on the last kickoff.
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I’d cover DJ Moore on 3rd and 4
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Impressed by the passive zone on 3rd down out near the 50.
JBC’s calling card.
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Impressed by the passive zone on 3rd down out near the 50.
JBC’s calling card.
I dunno. Watching the MLB trail a wide open WR has been working all year
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I dunno. Watching the MLB trail a wide open WR has been working all year
That’s what Blake Martinez - I mean Quay Walter - does.
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That’s what Blake Martinez - I mean Quay Walter - does.
It was a good play call by Chicago getting Moore lost in the wash but he’s like, you know, the Bears best offensive weapon
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Just kick the field goal.
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Just kick the field goal.
Yup. Too many things can go wrong.
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That’s what happens when you can’t trust the kicker
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Good response after the end of the first half. Pushed the Bears around on that drive. Pick-6 time, imo
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Smart play on STs.
Did I really say that. Good Possibility of lucky rather than smart.
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Really bad turnover there.
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Bad timing for that one.
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Really bad turnover there.
That’s how the Bears have won when they win for the last 75 years. Mediocre offense and the other team misses fgs and turnovers
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It could be 20-6 going down for another score. Instead, it is 14-6 with the Bear's having a shot to go down and score.
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That pass to Reed on the crossing pattern and the reversed touchdown pass were absolute rockets
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Absolute dimes from 10 on that drive.
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Cobgratulations to the worst team in NFL history for making the playoffs.
Impressive for a team with a bad coach, bad quarterback, bad line, bad receivers, a bad d coordinator, bad d line, bad linebackers and a bad secondary.
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That’s how the Bears have won when they win for the last 75 years. Mediocre offense and the other team misses fgs and turnovers
Yeah, those 85 and 86 Bears only won when the other team missed FGs.
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Yeah, those 85 and 86 Bears only won when the other team missed FGs.
Congrats on that 1-year
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Happy for J Love. Watching his improvement throughout the season has been a lot of fun
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Jordan Love is a dude.
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Priority for me besides winning was Love’s response to being in his 1st big game.
Sadly his rating was only 127.
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Jordan Love is very likable. The receivers are growing with him . Happy for his outstanding performance the second half of season and in the clutch today.
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The only non-rookie to catch a pass today?
Aaron Jones.
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Jordan Love is very likable.
Give him time. Favre and Rodgers were likable once, too.
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Cobgratulations to the worst team in NFL history for making the playoffs.
Impressive for a team with a bad coach, bad quarterback, bad line, bad receivers, a bad d coordinator, bad d line, bad linebackers and a bad secondary.
Rather be the worst team in NFL history making the playoffs versus the best team ever to not make the playoffs.
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Give him time. Favre and Rodgers were likable once, too.
Relationships seem to go south when the team drafts your future replacement.
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Would be hilarious if the Packers beat the cowboys and McCarthy got canned.
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Relationships seem to go south when the team drafts your future replacement.
Eh, Rodgers likability began tanking before that
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Rather be the worst team in NFL history making the playoffs versus the best team ever to not make the playoffs.
Your sarcasm detector is failing you. Green Bay has had a great run.
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Jesus, the Packers have a lot of young weapons. At this point, I'd say Wicks, Reed and Kraft are better than Watson, Doubs, Musgrave. And they should have a lot of hopes for the latter 3.
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Their skill positions look solid.
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Their skill positions look solid.
Time to spend all of their draft capital on defense again
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Jesus, the Packers have a lot of young weapons. At this point, I'd say Wicks, Reed and Kraft are better than Watson, Doubs, Musgrave. And they should have a lot of hopes for the latter 3.
Walker has gotten better as the season went on at LT.
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Jordon Love has 32 passing TD’s this year and only one was to a player with more than 2 years experience. That was to Aaron Jones the first game of the season.
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Pack/Pokes 4:30 Sunday.
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Eh, Rodgers likability began tanking before that
When did you start hating him?
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Pack/Pokes 4:30 Sunday.
ET
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Love Brisker as a player but he's caught a bad case of little brother syndrome
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ET
Phone home
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When did you start hating him?
Post-Seahawks loss in ‘14. Lot went wrong in that game but the defense forced 5 turnovers. He played like crap and should have shouldered some of the blame. Always a lot of excuses for him after that blaming everyone but 12.
No showed the ‘19 NFC title game, ‘21 divisional game. Couldn’t beat Brady at home despite Brady tossing 3 picks. Never took any of the blame.
Hards said it elsewhere, iced wideouts out after one mistake. Refused to work with them in the off-season. Watch a lot of QBs figure out how to work with average wideouts without complaint.
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Post-Seahawks loss in ‘14. Lot went wrong in that game but the defense forced 5 turnovers. He played like crap and should have shouldered some of the blame. Always a lot of excuses for him after that blaming everyone but 12.
No showed the ‘19 NFC title game, ‘21 divisional game. Couldn’t beat Brady at home despite Brady tossing 3 picks. Never took any of the blame.
Hards said it elsewhere, iced wideouts out after one mistake. Refused to work with them in the off-season. Watch a lot of QBs figure out how to work with average wideouts without complaint.
Never mind the fact that while they did not use first round capital on WRs they did draft...
Greg Jennings, 2nd Round
James Jones, 3rd Round
Jordy Nelson, 2nd Round
Randall Cobb, 2nd Round
Jermichael Finely, 3rd Round
Davante Adams, 2nd Round
He acted like he played with bums. For his first 10 years the only late round WR he was throwing to was Donald Driver.
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Love's not signing an extension til he gets a 1st round receiver to throw to
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Post-Seahawks loss in ‘14. Lot went wrong in that game but the defense forced 5 turnovers. He played like crap and should have shouldered some of the blame. Always a lot of excuses for him after that blaming everyone but 12.
No showed the ‘19 NFC title game, ‘21 divisional game. Couldn’t beat Brady at home despite Brady tossing 3 picks. Never took any of the blame.
Hards said it elsewhere, iced wideouts out after one mistake. Refused to work with them in the off-season. Watch a lot of QBs figure out how to work with average wideouts without complaint.
The difference between Love and Rodgers on your last point has been eye opening to me. Not that Love really had a choice if he wanted to succeed, but watching both Love and the young wideouts become dedicated to building something with each other was a welcome change.
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Just saw something interesting. The entire Packer receiving corps made just $7.5 million this year which is $4.5 million less than Allen Lazard earned after joining the Jets.
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Just saw something interesting. The entire Packer receiving corps made just $7.5 million this year which is $4.5 million less than Allen Lazard earned after joining the Jets.
And I’d literally take any of the current group over Lazard. A very deep and sky’s the limit group. Watson’s durability is a major concern, but lots of talent.
Lazard is a nice player, but nowhere near worth what he got. And he’s plateaued as a player. No surprise he’s not playing up to his contract.
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Nice first drive so far
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Great drive by Jones and the o-line
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Surgical
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Ceedee not welcome on Quay Island
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Ceedee not welcome on Quay Island
Dodge a bullet there. How teams get wideouts isolated against Packer linebackers is something else
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Dodge a bullet there. How teams get wideouts isolated against Packer linebackers is something else
That could have been bad. The 3 man rush on 3rd and 3 and giving up a long run was another Barry special.
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My goodness, Love’s poise to convert that 3rd and long is impressive.
He’s done plenty of things that would air as a highlight reel for Mahomes.
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My goodness, Love’s poise to convert that 3rd and long is impressive.
He’s done plenty of things that would air as a highlight reel for Mahomes.
4elder in shambles
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I think a lot of us had Doubs as just a #3b or #4 receiver with the emergence of the young guys.
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Dallas looks like they're in meltdown mode.
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After todays Packers win, Harbaugh to Dallas…… 8-)
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Did Ceedee host a boat cruise we don’t know about?
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Game over. Love sealed it with that roll left dart pass.
Once in awhile I know what I'm talking about.
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Game over. Love sealed it with that roll lrfrt dart pass.
Relax.
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I don't know how, but somehow that XP will cost us
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Can’t bring Carlson back next year.
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lol, remember when people said Carlson was the best player on the team and they should trade Love for a used Bike?
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I don't know how, but somehow that XP will cost us
Way too many missed XPs.
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No lead is safe with our defense. Especially since we went from no pressure to now being expected to win.
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No lead is safe with our defense. Especially since we went from no pressure to now being expected to win.
Be nice to hold them to no more than a FG here. Blitzes not getting home on this drive. Keep them in front of you
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No lead is safe with our defense. Especially since we went from no pressure to now being expected to win.
I'm sorry Joe.
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I'm sorry Joe.
Aka thank you Dak.
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Huh
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I was about to say an INT would be huge. Then pick 6. Crazy!
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I blacked out for the last 5 seconds of that play
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Is McCarthy still the coach at the start of the second half?
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Was going to bleep on Quay but that’s a bad call
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Was going to bleep on Quay but that’s a bad call
Why didn't the NFL correct that
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Way too many missed XPs.
Has a hard time getting it to the end zone, too.
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Why didn't the NFL correct that
They can’t overrule a penalty.
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They can’t overrule a penalty.
They can't overturn but they can get in the refs ear
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Does Dak have the Pack at -30?
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Pack can run the table all the way to Super Bowl
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Absolutely killer call on Quay. But gotta keep viewership up for 2nd half
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Absolutely killer call on Quay. But gotta keep viewership up for 2nd half
Devondre’s dropped INT was rough too.
End of the game can’t come soon enough. Have to think cowboys will come out firing.
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Devondre’s dropped INT was rough too.
End of the game can’t come soon enough. Have to think cowboys will come out firing.
Weirdly, thought the Packers defense was fine on that drive. Made them earn every yard to score. Going to need to figure out a way to pressure Dak. He’ll throw some to the Packers if they do
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Devondre’s dropped INT was rough too.
End of the game can’t come soon enough. Have to think cowboys will come out firing.
Agreed. I think the Packers need 40 pts to win. Cowboys will be slinging it, and got to believe Lamb will get out of his funk.
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I’ll take under 32.5 points by the Cowboys in the second half.
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Weirdly, thought the Packers defense was fine on that drive. Made them earn every yard to score. Going to need to figure out a way to pressure Dak. He’ll throw some to the Packers if they do
Yeah don’t disagree. Just would’ve liked the pick and a 4 score lead vs 3 score lead. Packers have had too many heart breaking playoffs so elevated heart rate until 0 seconds on the scoreboard
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Yeah don’t disagree. Just would’ve liked the pick and a 4 score lead vs 3 score lead. Packers have had too many heart breaking playoffs so elevated heart rate until 0 seconds on the scoreboard
For sure. Defense has been in pretty good position for the most part today. Just gotta keep rattling Dak
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Agreed. I think the Packers need 40 pts to win. Cowboys will be slinging it, and got to believe Lamb will get out of his funk.
I told my wife they have to score at least 10 in the 2nd half to win.
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I hate how nervous I am for this 2nd half
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I hate how nervous I am for this 2nd half
Same
And then they open with Mcduffie and quay on Ceedee
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Really don’t need to give them extra 15 yards for free.
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This is why Joe Barry won't be here on 24
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This is why Joe Barry won't be here on 24
Been avoiding dumb penalties this past 6 weeks. That one was dumb
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6 mins to score 3 points works for me. Need a good drive by the offense.
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This thread is a slightly more modest MU game thread.
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6 mins to score 3 points works for me. Need a good drive by the offense.
Yup. Good job by the defense to respond after Clark penalty. Get a couple first downs
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Helmet to helmet by parsons not called.
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That shot of Jones and MLF. Dusty in here.
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That’ll do as a response.
Not sure how Seattle can hire Dan Quinn if Dallas don’t come back
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NOW Barry can call shells
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What’s so impressive about this particular Packers team is it’s not necessarily star driven. That’s not a back handed compliment either, Love is right there for being a dude, and the receivers are all more than solid and everyone is bought in. Aaron Jones is just a pro’s pro, I’d have him on my team any day.
The football fan in me respects the heck out of what Green Bay has put together. They’re going to be a hell of a tough out.
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Well, that’s no bueno
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About time the Packers get a call
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Has a hard time getting it to the end zone, too.
That’s by design. They think they can keep them short of the 25 more often than not.
Carlson will likely get next year but will need to show big improvements to get a third year
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That’s by design. They think they can keep them short of the 25 more often than not.
Carlson will likely get next year but will need to show big improvements to get a third year
I don’t think so. Risk is not worth the reward for an extra couple yards.
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I don’t think so. Risk is not worth the reward for an extra couple yards.
Kick it out of the end zone
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I don’t think so. Risk is not worth the reward for an extra couple yards.
I agree the strategy is questionable. But leg strength isn’t an issue. He can bomb the ball. It’s accuracy that’s the problem.
I watched him kick the ball out of the end zone a ton at training camp. And I think they employed the strategy even in games where Crosby didn’t handle kickoffs last year.
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This is unbelievably amazing
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This is unbelievably amazing
4 score game now
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Why challenge that?
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Has a hard time getting it to the end zone, too.
Isn't it by design to not kick into the end zone anymore?
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Dak looks like he is in shock.
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Just dominant. Got 40, but won’t need it. Playoff Dak is a real thing. And Big Mac gonna Big Mac.
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Dak looks like he is in shock.
He's literal definition of seeing ghosts right now
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https://twitter.com/linzsports/status/1746668746586878163?t=TbxjzbW3nkNVyBWZwe_-Mw&s=19 (https://twitter.com/linzsports/status/1746668746586878163?t=TbxjzbW3nkNVyBWZwe_-Mw&s=19)
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Put in the walk-ons!!
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I'd be able to live with my kicker going 6/7 on PATs every week.
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Just think how good the Packers would be doing today if they had dumped Jordan Love, like they should’ve.
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Carlson took steroids at half I guess.
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Dallas = 7 Pro bowlers.
GB = 0 Pro bowlers.
Yeah, right. Guess that will be their SB.
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If you had told me that Love would throw for almost 300 yards, and 3 TDs. AND Jones would run for over 100 yards with 3 TDs, I'd of called you a liar.
Crazy.
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Alright let's give up an onside and another touchdown so we can fire Rich and Joe yet
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Sean Clifford is playing
Incredible
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One big thing reminds me of early Rodgers. Every receiver is a target. Love doesn't lock onto any particular guy, he throws it everywhere. Rodgers used to do that, but in recent years locked into a single guy.
A team is dangerous when there isn't really the one guy you have to shut down, but rather cover the entire field.
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Packers doing their best ole defense now though. Barry doing his best to remind GB fans of how he's been the entire year.
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Surprising that a TE is having a big day against JBC.
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With all due respect, this isn't the game to criticize Carroll.
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With all due respect, this isn't the game to criticize Carroll.
No, not at all. His defense did a great job today
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If the Packers were actually worried, Zayne Anderson would not be playing safety
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No, not at all. His defense did a great job today
Yea. Most of the damage happened against backups.
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I am glad though that they went for it on 4th and 2 to make it 48 points.
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With all due respect, this isn't the game to criticize Carroll.
Exactly. This is an MU game day thread.
This has all been a big formality since GB scored a TD after the Boys FG to open the second half.
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First 7 seed to win a playoff game. That was awesome!
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With all due respect, this isn't the game to criticize Carroll.
I actually agree, despite my comment. Just would have liked to see them at least slow them down at the end.
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Bears Twitter congratulating the Pack for their chance to get blown out by the Boys after last week’s game is funny.
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BTW in retrospect, they clearly handled the Jaire Alexander situation well.
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Packers/Niners will almost certainly be the Saturday night game next weekend. It’s definitely a Saturday game, whoever the Texans play will be the Saturday afternoon game.
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Packers/Niners will almost certainly be the Saturday night game next weekend. It’s definitely a Saturday game, whoever the Texans play will be the Saturday afternoon game.
IOW the designated AFC South time slot.
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IOW the designated AFC South time slot.
Indeed.
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Bears Twitter congratulating the Pack for their chance to get blown out by the Boys after last week’s game is funny.
Bears are always funny. I’ve been laughing at them for decades.
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Playoffs setting up well for Packers.
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Saturday night game. It kind of had to be that. It would be difficult having teams playing Monday and then Saturday.
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Saturday night game. It kind of had to be that. It would be difficult having teams playing Monday and then Saturday.
Yeah if the Bills had been postponed another day, the NFL would have the winner play next Monday night.
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Saturday night game. It kind of had to be that. It would be difficult having teams playing Monday and then Saturday.
Great opportunity for the Packers to continue developing the young talent on the roster
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The O-Line has been very good and at times, outstanding.
Jenkins and Tom are playing at Pro Bowl level. The only guy they lose is probably Runyan and he was probably the weakest link. Rian should have no problem replacing him next year and there should be a couple high draft picks as well.
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Some interesting questions on the horizon:
1. What kind of contract does Love get?
2. You have to assume Baktiari is cut or retires, which should leave the Packers with some decent salary cap room. Do the Packers go after anyone in FA, if so, what positions?
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Some interesting questions on the horizon:
1. What kind of contract does Love get?
2. You have to assume Baktiari is cut or retires, which should leave the Packers with some decent salary cap room. Do the Packers go after anyone in FA, if so, what positions?
1. Last week I said $35-$40 mil for 4 years. Now I think $45 mil for 5 years.
2. Maybe an inside linebacker (I think they cut Campbell).
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Some interesting questions on the horizon:
1. What kind of contract does Love get?
2. You have to assume Baktiari is cut or retires, which should leave the Packers with some decent salary cap room. Do the Packers go after anyone in FA, if so, what positions?
Bakhtiari carries a $19M dead cap number if he’s cut or retires before the 2024 season.
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Right but that's better than the cap hit that they would take if they keep him. They would actually free up about $2 million when compared to this year if they cut him.
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LaFleur masterclass yesterday. Might cost Dan Quinn a head coaching job
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-playoffs-masterclass-from-packers-matt-lafleur-was-foundation-for-green-bay-dismantling-cowboys/
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1. Last week I said $35-$40 mil for 4 years. Now I think $45 mil for 5 years.
2. Maybe an inside linebacker (I think they cut Campbell).
There is no universe that Love gets anything less than Hurts (5 yr, $255M). May be a 4 yesr extension since he has one year left, but the AAV is going to he there. He took a discount last year as a bet on himself and won. Thems the breaks if you're the Packers and you gladly pay it.
Rodgers was the 8th highest paid when he signed his midyear extension, in a world where a number of those were rookies pre rookie wage scale. For what it's worth, 8th in AAV in 2024 would be Mahomes at 45, and the bar has been raised from his (relative) sweetheart deal.
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Bakhtiari carries a $19M dead cap number if he’s cut or retires before the 2024 season.
I might not be understanding the cap situation. But right now, I thought Bakhtiari carries a cap number of $40,583,017. My understanding is that if he is cut before June 1, the Packers take an ~$19M dead cap hit, but still save over $21.5M in their cap.
So you have to assume he is gone, and they recoup that $21.5M
1. Last week I said $35-$40 mil for 4 years. Now I think $45 mil for 5 years.
2. Maybe an inside linebacker (I think they cut Campbell).
I agree on both. I figure some of the cap money is going to be eaten up in the Love extension.
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I mean I guess you can say “saved” $20M, but regardless, the restructuring of Bakhtiari’s contract over the years catches up this offseason. He’s not playing at $40M, that’s for sure. He can’t be a post June 1st cut, so the time has come to pay the piper.
His injury designation definitely makes things tougher. If he fails his physical, I’m guessing he’ll file an injury grievance (if he’s cut), and his dead money will go up a bit.
They may get $14M - $18M to play with after the injury settlement, but Bakhtiari will undoubtedly be the highest counting Packer against the cap in 2024 whether he’s on the roster or not.
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Bakhtiari isn't retiring; he's contractually obligated to play for the Jets next year. He has as much professional freedom as Cobb has, which is to say, none.
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Bakhtiari isn't retiring; he's contractually obligated to play for the Jets next year. He has as much professional freedom as Cobb has, which is to say, none.
Rodgers already put him in contract with a house in NJ.
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Rodgers already put him in contract with a house in NJ.
Why does Aaron Rodgers hate his friends
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Packers have a tough game at SF. If they can somehow how win it, I think they have a good shot at running the table.
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Packers have a tough game at SF. If they can somehow how win it, I think they have a good shot at running the table.
Hopefully Jordan Love doesn’t have a Rodgers-like performance against the 49ers
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All house money at this point
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All house money at this point
Agree. Great experience for the roster and QB
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Nick Bosa saying what anyone with a brain knows
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2024/1/17/24041358/green-bay-packers-san-francsico-49ers-nick-bosa-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers-difference-comparison
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Nick Bosa saying what anyone with a brain knows
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2024/1/17/24041358/green-bay-packers-san-francsico-49ers-nick-bosa-jordan-love-aaron-rodgers-difference-comparison
The rare double slight
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Stay classy, Mark Chmura.
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Stay classy, Mark Chmura.
https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2024/01/18/fmark-chmura-brock-purdy-49ers-packers/
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https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2024/01/18/fmark-chmura-brock-purdy-49ers-packers/
Wait, you're telling me that a sports radio host said something that was designed to draw outrage-based attention? No. Surely you jest.
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Stay classy, Mark Chmura.
Didn’t know Hot Tub Mark was still on the radio.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-made-bold-move-in-going-from-aaron-rodgers-to-jordan-love--and-they-were-right-140047579.html
The decision to jettison 12 and move onto Love was the correct one.
Cap space will be freeing up. Five picks in the top-100. Team has a chance to set itself for success for the near future.
Whether Gutekunst gets it right is another story but the way the Packers moved this past off-season may end up being remembered as one of the best off-seasons in recent memory.
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This Article is spot on
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/19/football-aside-jordan-love-was-the-right-person-to-lead-the-2023-packers/
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This Article is spot on
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/19/football-aside-jordan-love-was-the-right-person-to-lead-the-2023-packers/
Probably one of my favorite things about Jordan is how chill he seems to be.
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Packer injury report has punter Whelan as Questionable with Illness.
Will Whelan play?
If not, who will punt and are they any good at punting?
Hate to lose, but especially so by special teams.
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Packer injury report has punter Whelan as Questionable with Illness.
Will Whelan play?
If not, who will punt and are they any good at punting?
Hate to lose, but especially so by special teams.
He’s playing. LaFleur wasn’t worried about it
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/matt-lafleur-quietly-proves-hes-one-of-the-best-coaches-in-the-nfl
Interesting take
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Must not read scoop
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Must not read scoop
Through 8 games, I’d have agreee he wasn’t doing a good job. Dumb team, bad mistakes and not good in any facet. I’d have been wrong.
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He’s playing. LaFleur wasn’t worried about it
Packers won't need to punt anyway
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With the crummy weather at Santa Clara, have to like Aaron Jones over 15.5 rush attempts.
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https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10105904-packers-jonathan-owens-reveals-advice-from-simone-biles-that-led-to-improved-play.amp.html
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I thought Gronk was a real meathead at the start of the year, but he has turned into a pretty solid guy in the pre-game.
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Rain game.
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Hope Jordan has a big game today. Will be a big payiff for tram and in his contract extension
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/20/ian-rapoport-packers-and-jordan-love-expected-to-do-massive-contract-extension-this-spring/
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Go Pack Go. It’s awesome playing divisional round weekend. Very pleasant surprise. Whatever happens tonight, much to look forward to.
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That's a good drive but FGs aren't going to do it
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8 minute drive to open the game but only 3 points. Good, not great. O-line looked solid.
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Would’ve liked to get some yards on 3rd and make a manageable 4th down. We’ll see how D does here.
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Brutal drop by savage
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Opportunity squandered.
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Brutal drop by savage
Yes, but glad to see him attacking the ball. Wonder if they’ll let him play Rat all night like last Sunday.
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Brutal drop by savage
Db hands
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Deebo in concussion protocol
He’s been cleared to return
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Yes, but glad to see him attacking the ball. Wonder if they’ll let him play Rat all night like last Sunday.
Obviously not the outcome but if it gets Purdy thinking...
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That’s a trash spot
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Another opportunity lost.
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All the things MLF challenges and he doesn’t challenge that?
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The spot on the sneak is whatever, but Jones was half a yard short
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All the things MLF challenges and he doesn’t challenge that?
Automatically reviewed on the turnover I think.
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I hate the sneak when the entire D is waiting for it.
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Another opportunity lost.
Hate when they go hurry up on that. Take your time and trust 33
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Automatically reviewed on the turnover I think.
I don’t think turnover on downs is?
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Coming out of those first two long possessions with only 3 points is less than ideal.
Good news is Niners offense has no rhythm.
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Did we get rid of intentional grounding?
Update: touchdown zebras
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Did we get rid of intentional grounding?
Update: touchdown zebras
Wyatt got tackled on that TD pass
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Kittle wide open
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MLF shoulda kicked the fg, hey?
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Wyatt got tackled on that TD pass
Thought I saw it too.
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MLF shoulda kicked the fg, hey?
Nope
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MLF shoulda kicked the fg, hey?
No, 3-7 or 6-7 makes no difference to me
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I think my heart be skipped a beat when Reed bobbled that.
AJ has been so good tonight
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I think my heart be skipped a beat when Reed bobbled that.
AJ has been so good tonight
Is he there best RB post-Lombardi?
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Yeah, Niners defense is too good.
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MLF shoulda kicked the fg, hey?
Yep..take all the guaranteeed points you can get when a 10 point dog - but if you do go for it there - the playcall to rush Love into a sneak with Aaron Jones available? Not his best call.
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Is he there best RB post-Lombardi?
Yes only because Ty Montgomery is technically a WR
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Is he there best RB post-Lombardi?
Yes until we drop a 2nd for fields
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Need to hold them to 3 at most
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Need to hold them to 3 at most
Linebackers can’t cover or tackle. My kingdom for a Fred Warner or Dre Greenlaw
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Linebackers can’t cover or tackle. My kingdom for a Fred Warner or Dre Greenlaw
This team could use a Desmond Bishop
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This team could use a Desmond Bishop
Niners are hard to defend, maybe the hardest team to defend in the league. Being too critical of the LBs is hard but they’re a liability
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Really poor clock management by Shanahan
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Desmond Bishop is not what this team needs. Rico's right - it's Wagner. They shot their shot with Quay and missed
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https://twitter.com/theotherRobin19/status/1748892399508611211?t=lbIi-Ycspp0rjue-M5ntXg&s=19
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Flip to UConn and Nova at halftime. Helluva game.
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Desmond Bishop is not what this team needs. Rico's right - it's Wagner. They shot their shot with Quay and missed
He’s just not it. A step slow at all times
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Great half - except in the red zone
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That clock management by SF was…interesting.
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Excellent FG block
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That clock management by SF was…interesting.
No kidding. Three timeouts and played for the FG
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Didn’t love the red zone play calls. Knowing they’ll only be down one score after the first possession of the second half is big. Love looking calm and poised. Still house money whatever happened the second half.
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Packers feel like they're hanging on for dear life. They needed that Savage play.
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Get off the field on the first drive of the 2nd half and go from there.
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3 more Packer points at this point would look pretty good right now, hey?
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Didn’t love the red zone play calls. Knowing they’ll only be down one score after the first possession of the second half is big. Love looking calm and poised. Still house money whatever happened the second half.
With just a bit of luck, this could be a 20-7 game.
But still glad to be where we’re at.
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3 more Packer points at this point would look pretty good right now, hey?
So would a pick-6 that was dropped. Or a missed intentional grounding
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Get off the field on the first drive of the 2nd half and go from there.
Done.
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Purdy ain’t it
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I'm going to be sick. This is right there for them to take
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This game is more than there for the taking for the Packers.
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Some of these spots…yikes.
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absolutely unnatural carnal knowledgeng BS spot again. Stupidest unnatural carnal knowledgeng league
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Some of these spots…yikes.
Put a chip in the ball!
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Some of these spots…yikes.
Make$ you wonder
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Make$ you wonder
Kyle $hanahan
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Team should be charged a challenge if it takes that quick to fix.
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Big East refs
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Another heart beat skipped. LFG
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What a play design. I know the DB slipped to help, but that was wide open either way.
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Another heart beat skipped. LFG
Ecstasy or heartbreak? We’ll know in an hour.
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Beautiful footwork by Melton
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Did we get rid of delay of game penalties?
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🤦🏼♂️
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Second brutal play by Savage.
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If only there was a mechanism to alert everyone when the play clock strikes zero. Maybe one day technology will catch up where some type of audible noise could alert all.
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My kingdom for a linebacker
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If only there was a mechanism to alert everyone when the play clock strikes zero. Maybe one day technology will catch up where some type of audible noise could alert all.
Maybe a horn or some other mechanism. Or a full time officiating staff. Who's to say
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Maybe a horn or some other mechanism. Or a full time officiating staff. Who's to say
It’s ridiculous that they don’t have a horn go off or some type of light on the sideline go on when the play clock hits zero. So absurd.
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That recovery was unbelievable. Running full speed, ball bouncing around and wet, that bounces off the recovering player 99% of the time there. And it was all 9ers around otherwise.
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That recovery was unbelievable. Running full speed, ball bouncing around and wet, that bounces off the recovering player 99% of the time there. And it was all 9ers around otherwise.
I yelled a lot of things during that play
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Somebody FedEx me some Zanix.
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Kenny Clark covers so many deficiencies
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19 minute drive?
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End them
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19 minute drive?
Niners fans in full PUCKER mode
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With the crummy weather at Santa Clara, have to like Aaron Jones over 15.5 rush attempts.
I was surprised how low this number was, hopefully some people made some cash here.
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Bad pass, and they pay for it. Gotta earn this one the long way round
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🤦🏼♂️
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That throw was really poor.
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Don’t like that
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That throw was really poor.
Yup. Hit him in stride and it’s a first down.
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There was room to keep running.
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Man…too really bad 3rd downs for Love that were there to keep the clock running
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Man…too really bad 3rd downs for Love that were there to keep the clock running
Yeah. Niners defense has been mixing coverages and pressures. Take the easy throws and make them
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Please please please get some points
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What an odd 3rd & 10 play call by Shanahan. Kittle was lined up in the backfield, and a really poor play concept. Could be a key play to a GB win. Pick up 6-7 yards there, probably a FG attempt.
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We may be seeing a lot more GB - SF matchups over the next decade.
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Wow AJ…half expected him to fumble there
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Wow AJ…half expected him to fumble there
Heady play by Jones, he switches the ball into his right arm as he’s about to get caught. Very smart play.
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Jones going to be in the ring of honor
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Is this a choke job by San Fran?
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Is this a choke job by San Fran?
Choke job? Green Bay has outplayed them most of the night.
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Just a reminder 4qver said Carlson was the best player on the Packers
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Easiest money maker of the night is betting against Carlson when we need him most.
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Chase Young is losing a lot of future money this evening.
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Easiest money maker of the night is betting against Carlson when we need him most.
We’ve said all year that he was going to cost us. Crosby should have been brought back 2 months ago.
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Shocking that a guy who struggles with extra points can’t be counted in for a big FG.
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Blitz blitz blitz blitz
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Had a great junior year at Auburn. His 4 other years he was 67% in college.
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Definitely stupid not calling a timeout there.
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No, 3-7 or 6-7 makes no difference to me
Hmmm…
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Take Anders Carlson and throw him in the Pacific
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Hmmm…
The K sucks
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And this is exactly why you take the 30 yard FG attempt in first quarter when up 3-0. Never know when you'll need those 3 points.
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And this is exactly why you take the 30 yard FG attempt in first quarter when up 3-0. Never know when you'll need those 3 points.
It’s 50/50 they make the Fg
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What a horrendous decision and throw, my lord.
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Throwing across your body late over the middle. Huh.
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🤦🏼♂️
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And this is exactly why you take the 30 yard FG attempt in first quarter when up 3-0. Never know when you'll need those 3 points.
And in the 2014 game in Seattle people said that’s why you go for TDs when you have a chance after the Packers kicked two short FGs and ended up losing in OT.
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Throwing across your body late over the middle. Huh.
Yeah. That was bad.
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And this is exactly why you take the 30 yard FG attempt in first quarter when up 3-0. Never know when you'll need those 3 points.
Not really how football works.
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A really bad 4th Q for Love but a successful fact finding mission this season.
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Whoops.
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It’s 50/50 they make the Fg
Except its a zero pressure kick in Q1 from 30 yards - probably a 98% chance he makes it. And Green Bay continues to just choke sans the Dallas game in a Divisional or NFC Championship.
SF had no business winning that game.
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Just a reminder 4qver said Carlson was the best player on the Packers
Has he ever been correct?
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What a horrendous decision and throw, my lord.
Agreed. But awful play design as well. There was no option other than a TE in the opposite flat that was less than 30 yards downfield.
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A really bad 4th Q for Love but a successful fact finding mission this season.
Yep. Learn and grow.
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House money. Impressive run. Unfortunate ending.
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Except its a zero pressure kick in Q1 from 30 yards - probably a 98% chance he makes it. And Green Bay continues to just choke sans the Dallas game in a Divisional or NFC Championship.
SF had no business winning that game.
Carlson sucks
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You absolutely go for 4th and 1 in the red zone in the first quarter of the game. Especially when you’re double digit underdogs.
The problem is drafting a dude who missed 31 FGs and 3 extra points (from the 2 yard line) in college.
Love had a bad fourth quarter.
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You take the timeout near the goal line to help avoid disasters like that. 100 seconds to go 45 yards (or for a TD) is a way better use of your time. Can’t take those timeouts into the offseason with you.
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This hurts, but the future is bright.
Carlson had no business even being on the team. Making decisions that don’t involve play calling is MLF’s weakness.
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House money. Future is bright. That SF team is supposedly the best in the nfc? Not impressed, didn't come close to covering
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Kind of reminds me of losing to the Cardinals in a heartbreaker. The future is bright for GB.
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House money and also a huge raise to the guy that takes out Joe Barry
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House money and also a huge raise to the guy that takes out Joe Barry
Need an edge rusher bad. Draft or FA.
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Not really how football works.
Maybe not in this day and age of analytics that generally always say go for it on 4th and short - I just think when you're a 10 point dog on the road, take sure points when you can get them.
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Absolute chokejob.
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My money would be on the Lions to go to the Super Bowl.
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My money would be on the Lions to go to the Super Bowl.
I’ll be cheering for them. Niners defense is the real deal, though. Tackle well and are physical. Would kill to have their LBs in GB
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On the bright side we won’t have to see Lamar Jackson run for 10,000 yards against us in the Super Bowl
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Slit Joe Barry's throat or slit Joe Barry's dogs throat. Don't give a crap if the Packers get a win
I'm not a Barry fan but thought he did ok today. We just didn't make that one play to seal it.
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House money and also a huge raise to the guy that takes out Joe Barry
Not sure Barry was the problem tonight. As Rico said they need another edge rusher and a ILB.
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Entire city of Detroit can go unnatural carnal knowledge itself. Another 50 years of ineptitude will serve it right
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Not sure Barry was the problem tonight. As Rico said they need another edge rusher and a ILB.
Quibble with him not sending the house at Purdy on that last drive when Purdy is aching to throw a pick. I dunno. I’d move on but the LBs are so bad. Can’t tackle. Can’t rush the QB. Can’t cover. The front 4 is inconsistent with pressure. Rashan Gary was terrible the last month and the defense somehow held up the last 4 weeks. They gave up 24 tonight to a heavy favorite. The stretch with DeVito-Mayfield-Young was horrible. Need more dudes
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Quibble with him not sending the house at Purdy on that last drive when Purdy is aching to throw a pick. I dunno. I’d move on but the LBs are so bad. Can’t tackle. Can’t rush the QB. Can’t cover. The front 4 is inconsistent with pressure. Rashan Gary was terrible the last month and the defense somehow held up the last 4 weeks. They gave up 24 tonight to a heavy favorite. The stretch with DeVito-Mayfield-Young was horrible. Need more dudes
When they blitzed it never really worked. But yeah they definitely need dudes.
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When they blitzed it never really worked. But yeah they definitely need dudes.
If Purdy beats the blitz, tip the cap and move on. Too many weapons just to let them move down the field.
It’s on the kicker and the decision to stick with him. Love needed to be better, too.
Frustrating loss in a game they should have won.
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Enjoyed the last couple months of strong play. Looking forward to whqt is in store for the Packers .
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Morning after clarity:
1. Team was a year ahead of itself. Hurts because you don't know when those chances come again.
2. Love is the guy. He's earned his money.
3. He and Purdy threw one bad pass to the other team. 49ers caught their interception chance.
4. Defense played fine. But body of work matters - they wouldn't be traveling to SF if their defense was good all year. Bye JBC.
5. Speaking of coaches, in my mind, Bisaccia staked his job on Carlson. It didn't work all season, and it cost us this game.
6. Learn, grow, and nail the crap out of defense in this year's draft.
Finally -In a multi-billion dollar league, we're still doing 'eye spots' and it cost the Packers points. Meanwhile, the most blatant intentional grounding doesn't get a second look.
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I'd be surprised if Barry is gone. Pleasantly surprised, but surprised.
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Heck of a second half of the season for the Packers. The way last night's game ended sucked for Packer backers, but fans of lots of teams are jealous of your future.
Y'all have a really good - maybe even great - QB, some nice young weapons, and a lot of other pieces necessary to win for a long time. You're well ahead of where you were at this stage of Rodgers' career.
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I agree with that. Green Bay's incredibly young roster came.together and made a heckuva run led by a first year starting QB. The 4th quarter last night was excruciating. For 3 quarters, both the offense and the defense were on the verge of a second consecutive huge upset. Kudos.
In the depths of your morning after despair, ask yourself this.... how many teams have a brighter future 4-5 years than GB? You have your QB and young receivers. A running back. 5 picks in the first 3 rounds this offseason. Enjoy.
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Heck of a second half of the season for the Packers. The way last night's game ended sucked for Packer backers, but fans of lots of teams are jealous of your future.
Y'all have a really good - maybe even great - QB, some nice young weapons, and a lot of other pieces necessary to win for a long time. You're well ahead of where you were at this stage of Rodgers' career.
Yeah I don't agree with that. That team had a young core of defenders that would grow into a Super Bowl winning defense (Collins, Hawk, Tramon, Jenkins) and a future defensive MVP and HOFer (Woodson). This team has a nice DL, but significant issues up the middle at ILB and safety.
And while they are good, these receivers have a lot to do to grow to the level of a Jennings or Jordy.
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Was able to see the Packers play two extra games no one was expecting.
Would have loved to see them win.
Oh well, next season.
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Anders freaking Carlson
Knew it when they drafted him. He sucks.
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Was able to see the Packers play two extra games no one was expecting.
Would have loved to see them win.
Oh well, next season.
They’re setup very well- much cap relief to pursue free agents and extra 2nd and 3rd round picks this draft.
Love has got to keep improving and get a new defensive coordinator top the internal to do list. It’s fool’s gold to think defense got fixed after the Panthers game and games that immediately preceded that one. Barry must go or they’re asking for more problems.
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Anders freaking Carlson
Knew it when they drafted him. He sucks.
Big concern with him. He’s almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they’re talking so they better be right. Total commitment to him is a big gamble.
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Big concern with him. He’s almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they’re talking so they better be right. Total commitment to him is a big gamble.
We'll see. IMO they bring in someone to compete with him, and he has a small cap number so cutting him wouldn't be out of the question.
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Has he ever been correct?
Right now...you suck, hey?
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Nope. Streak continues.
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In the depths of your morning after despair, ask yourself this.... how many teams have a brighter future 4-5 years than GB? You have your QB and young receivers. A running back. 5 picks in the first 3 rounds this offseason. Enjoy.
I love Aaron Jones because he is an absolute game changer. When healthy he takes so much pressure off the QB. As we saw this year, he's at that age where he gets nicked up and misses games more frequently, and GB doesn't have a reliable back up. I think they move on from Quadzilla and will need to find someone in the middle rounds of the draft.
Relatively not a big deal assuming Aaron has a few more highly productive years in him and they have higher priorities on defense and probably kicker but if he misses significant time the offense looks really different.
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Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly. My point stands.
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Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly. My point stands.
Correct. Jones is great but the wall is real. Wouldn’t invest heavily in the position early in the draft, though. Safety and edge have to be priorities 1A, 1B
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Big concern with him. He’s almost certainly going to be their kicker next year the way they’re talking so they better be right. Total commitment to him is a big gamble.
they have to say that-
6th round pick...for a kicker??
for his confidence
the dude does have a strong leg and comes from good lineage
i recall during the preseason, skeptics were keeping track of his performance during practices and it wasn't good at all. so i'm expecting this guy to come out looking like the 2nd coming of jerry kramer or paul hornung
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We'll see. IMO they bring in someone to compete with him, and he has a small cap number so cutting him wouldn't be out of the question.
I have major doubts they’ll bring in any serious competition for him. They’ll have another kicker on the 90 offseason roster, but likely will be just a camp leg. He’s Bisaccia’s guy and he carries a lot of sway.
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they have to say that-
6th round pick...for a kicker??
for his confidence
the dude does have a strong leg and comes from good lineage
i recall during the preseason, skeptics were keeping track of his performance during practices and it wasn't good at all. so i'm expecting this guy to come out looking like the 2nd coming of jerry kramer or paul hornung
See above about Bisaccia. He campaigned to draft him. He’s one of the top paid special teams coaches and they’re going to listen to him.
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I have major doubts they’ll bring in any serious competition for him. They’ll have another kicker on the 90 offseason roster, but likely will be just a camp leg. He’s Bisaccia’s guy and he carries a lot of sway.
If MLF’s quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.
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Correct. Jones is great but the wall is real. Wouldn’t invest heavily in the position early in the draft, though. Safety and edge have to be priorities 1A, 1B
I’d put corner after safety. Alexander is perpetually injured and Stokes has almost two full lost seasons to injuries. Valentine looks like a player. After that, there’s little depth. Ballentine might be fine. Nixon tackles well but doesn’t cover well and shouldn’t be counted on again as the primary nickel. His value is a returner.
Very thin at one of the most important positions in the game. Need find a couple guys who can play a lot.
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If MLF’s quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.
Ok, haven’t read his comments yet. But I still think they’re going to listen to Bisaccia. So unless he’s cooled on Carlson too…
Plus LaFleur talks a tough game on many things but doesn’t act, see Joe Barry still employed by them.
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If MLF’s quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.
Carlson won’t be the kicker next year. Book it.
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Running backs have a short shelf life and teams should plan accordingly. My point stands.
Absolutely agree. Just saying they have zero backups at that position, and Jones is 2nd only to Love in importance to offense.
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I’d put corner after safety. Alexander is perpetually injured and Stokes has almost two full lost seasons to injuries. Valentine looks like a player. After that, there’s little depth. Ballentine might be fine. Nixon tackles well but doesn’t cover well and shouldn’t be counted on again as the primary nickel. His value is a returner.
Very thin at one of the most important positions in the game. Need find a couple guys who can play a lot.
I won’t be surprised if 3 of the top 5 picks are in the secondary.
They need to improve their tackling across the board. The difference in tackling between them and the Niners was stark
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Outlook for Packers is promising. #10 on the job learning panned out second half of season. Love his potential for further growth. Also, even though he can run , he is focused on being a pocket passer. I think that will keep him healthy. Sime of these planned run QBs are really getting banged up
Solid young receivers and offensive line , in another year or two both groups could become excellent .
NFC North may end up as toughest divison in league next year .
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If MLF’s quote is true they could bring in stiff competition.
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Yeah, a couple of young studs, hey?
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Outlook for Packers is promising. #10 on the job learning panned out second half of season. Love his potential for further growth. Also, even though he can run , he is focused on being a pocket passer. I think that will keep him healthy. Sime of these planned run QBs are really getting banged up
Solid young receivers and offensive line , in another year or two both groups could become excellent .
NFC North may end up as toughest divison in league next year .
And get rid of the kicker you think is good
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I won’t be surprised if 3 of the top 5 picks are in the secondary.
They need to improve their tackling across the board. The difference in tackling between them and the Niners was stark
Also 2 picks in the 4th round. Depending on free agency, I think 4 of the 7 could be linebacker and secondary.
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Lots of draft capital and it should be mostly on defense save for a middle round RB and an OL, where you can never have enough. I could see like our response to Randy Moss, where our first 3 picks were secondary (only Mike McKenzie was any good)
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Lots of draft capital and it should be mostly on defense save for a middle round RB and an OL, where you can never have enough. I could see like our response to Randy Moss, where our first 3 picks were secondary (only Mike McKenzie was any good)
The OL was the 2nd best unit in the NFL in allowing the fewest QB pressures. Jenkins and Tom are playing at pro bowl level, but I still think they use a 2nd to get another one. And as we saw with 5 consecutive 100 yard games by AJ, the run blocking was nothing to sneer at.
But we just saw a team with ZERO Pro Bowlers show that they were better than the top 2 seeds with a combined 16 of them.
Fire JBC and get a guy who coaches a more aggressive style. Then get rid of Carlson and get ready for a wide open window.
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The OL was the 2nd best unit in the NFL in allowing the fewest QB pressures. Jenkins and Tom are playing at pro bowl level, but I still think they use a 2nd to get another one. And as we saw with 5 consecutive 100 yard games by AJ, the run blocking was nothing to sneer at.
But we just saw a team with ZERO Pro Bowlers show that they were better than the top 2 seeds with a combined 16 of them.
Fire JBC and get a guy who coaches a more aggressive style. Then get rid of Carlson and get ready for a wide open window.
The tell tale sign with Carlson is the 6 missed extra points. Bring in a lot of kickers and have a competition.
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I won’t be surprised if 3 of the top 5 picks are in the secondary.
They need to improve their tackling across the board. The difference in tackling between them and the Niners was stark
I have no idea how the free agency market is shaping up for guys in the secondary, but the Packers will have the cap room to pursue expensive guys if they choose. I hope they make a splash or two. Drafting is so iffy whether they can play right away or ever. And Packers have immediate needs everywhere in the secondary. Don’t be Ted Thompson and think the draft alone will solve it.
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Outlook for Packers is promising. #10 on the job learning panned out second half of season. Love his potential for further growth. Also, even though he can run , he is focused on being a pocket passer. I think that will keep him healthy. Sime of these planned run QBs are really getting banged up
Solid young receivers and offensive line , in another year or two both groups could become excellent .
NFC North may end up as toughest divison in league next year .
Could be. Packers and Lions are playoff teams with young difference makers on both sides of the ball. The Bears are loaded with high draft capital and improved a lot the 2nd half. Looks like Minnesota is in for a rebuild, but division is getting better no question.
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Could be. Packers and Lions are playoff teams with young difference makers on both sides of the ball. The Bears are loaded with high draft capital and improved a lot the 2nd half. Looks like Minnesota is in for a rebuild, but division is getting better no question.
Antoine Winfield, L’Jarius Sneed, Kendall Fuller, Kyle Dugger and Kam Curl top secondary FA’s.
Lot of edge rushers available depending on franchise tags
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Joe Barry dumped
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Truly surprised.
The philosophical direction is going to be interesting to see where they go. Wonder if they will take another look at Jim Leonhard? That will be a different style.
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Truly surprised.
The philosophical direction is going to be interesting to see where they go. Wonder if they will take another look at Jim Leonhard? That will be a different style.
No, I’d rather hire a DC that hasn’t cut his teeth playing the Big Ten West
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No, I’d rather hire a DC that hasn’t cut his teeth playing the Big Ten West
That's exactly what I said to my friend. And while he had some great defenses in the past, his more recent defenses weren't nearly as dominant.
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That's exactly what I said to my friend. And while he had some great defenses in the past, his more recent defenses weren't nearly as dominant.
The Wisconsin meathead association lead by the sports talk maroons will undoubtedly push him as a candidate but I sure hope it’s not him.
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The time to hire Leonhard was at his peak when buzz was high and people thought he could get the UW job...not when he spent the last season as an analyst for Bielema.
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How about Ejiro Evero, assuming he doesn't get the Panthers head job? He's only been a defensive coordinator for two years, but one was Denver's in 2022 which was T-10, and last year the Panthers were 4th in the league in yards against (4th worst in points against, but that's what happens when you have a -9 TO margin). He has some experience in Green Bay under Dom Capers, and coached the Super Bowl Rams' secondary. He's only 43 and would seem to fit in well with the young staff age-wise.
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That's exactly what I said to my friend. And while he had some great defenses in the past, his more recent defenses weren't nearly as dominant.
Oh I agree. I was just wondering if that would happen. The other name the locals will push is Al Harris.
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How about Ejiro Evero, assuming he doesn't get the Panthers head job? He's only been a defensive coordinator for two years, but one was Denver's in 2022 which was T-10, and last year the Panthers were 4th in the league in yards against (4th worst in points against, but that's what happens when you have a -9 TO margin). He has some experience in Green Bay under Dom Capers, and coached the Super Bowl Rams' secondary. He's only 43 and would seem to fit in well with the young staff age-wise.
Choice number 1 for me. Can be talked into Marquand Manuel
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Oh I agree. I was just wondering if that would happen. The other name the locals will push is Al Harris.
Yup. And I hope they pass on him too.
Wink Martindale is probably my top choice. Evero wouldn't be bad either. Staley was very good as a DC, but not HC.
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Yup. And I hope they pass on him too.
Wink Martindale is probably my top choice. Evero wouldn't be bad either. Staley was very good as a DC, but not HC.
If they want a college guy, hire Jesse Minter from Michigan over Leonhard
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If they want a college guy, hire Jesse Minter from Michigan over Leonhard
I worry about him because Michigan has more NFL players on their roster (IMO) than any team in the NCAA. was it talent or was it coaching?
I would be good with Evero, Martindale, or even Ryan.
My big complaint was lack of aggressiveness under JBC and I think these guys would bring that.
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https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-fire-defensive-coordinator-joe-barry-a-look-at-four-potential-replacements-green-bay-should-target/amp/
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I worry about him because Michigan has more NFL players on their roster (IMO) than any team in the NCAA. was it talent or was it coaching?
I would be good with Evero, Martindale, or even Ryan.
My big complaint was lack of aggressiveness under JBC and I think these guys would bring that.
He wouldn’t be in my top choices but if they went that route, he’s the first call.
I want an NFL guy
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Choice number 1 for me. Can be talked into Marquand Manuel
There's a throwback name. I just checked his wikipedia and he's one of 19(!!!) children. Wowza.
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Yup. And I hope they pass on him too.
Wink Martindale is probably my top choice. Evero wouldn't be bad either. Staley was very good as a DC, but not HC.
Was Staley a good DC, or did he just take over a fantastic system and personnel group assembled by Wade Phillips and manage to not f--- it up for a year?
His Charger defenses - of which he was the playcaller - were consistently bad despite being loaded with talent.
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I worry about him because Michigan has more NFL players on their roster (IMO) than any team in the NCAA. was it talent or was it coaching?
I would be good with Evero, Martindale, or even Ryan.
My big complaint was lack of aggressiveness under JBC and I think these guys would bring that.
Evero would cost a crap ton of money and would be a risk to leave for a HC position every year. That's of course a good problem to have.
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Yup. And I hope they pass on him too.
Wink Martindale is probably my top choice. Evero wouldn't be bad either. Staley was very good as a DC, but not HC.
A little old (90) but if he can recapture the magic of Tic-Tac-Dough he would be special.
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Evero would cost a crap ton of money and would be a risk to leave for a HC position every year. That's of course a good problem to have.
To a high revenue team like GB, this is where you should create separation from peers. No salary cap for coaches. The Packers should be an SEC school --- a lot of millionaires on staff.
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Packers have plenty of money.
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Not sure Barry was the problem tonight. As Rico said they need another edge rusher and a ILB.
LVN as a second year player and Rashan Gary aren't going to cut it? Need a first round DB, OL, and LB... RB anywhere. Team is pretty solid everywhere else.
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LVN as a second year player and Rashan Gary aren't going to cut it? Need a first round DB, OL, and LB... RB anywhere. Team is pretty solid everywhere else.
I always want to add secondary for depth at a minimum.
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I also think the Packers need to look at an interior DL. While he hasn't fallen off yet, Kenny Clark is 29 next year.
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Every spot on defense should be in play but the focus should be right down the middle. NT, off-ball LB, S. CB definitely a need but start there
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MLF checking off all the boxes...
Fired the DC
Fired S&C
Packers signed another K already
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MLF checking off all the boxes...
Fired the DC
Fired S&C
Packers signed another K already
I’d like to see more mid-range jump shots
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Every spot on defense should be in play but the focus should be right down the middle. NT, off-ball LB, S. CB definitely a need but start there
Definitely back seven.
There are only 2 safeties under contract, so we know that position will have big changes.
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I’d like to see more mid-range jump shots
and slaps of five
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and slaps of five
In that same vein with an honest thought, better tackling would be nice to see
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MLF checking off all the boxes...
Fired the DC
Fired S&C
Packers signed another K already
Fire Bisaccia
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MLF checking off all the boxes...
Fired the DC
Fired S&C
Packers signed another K already
Yeah, another kicker who stunk from beyond 40 in college. 12/23. Great!
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/aaron-jones-sees-special-future-for-packers-will-he-be-part-of-it
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https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2024/1/27/24052968/green-bay-packers-christian-parker-defensive-coordinator-news-rumors-resume-coaching-history-broncos
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https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2024/1/27/24052968/green-bay-packers-christian-parker-defensive-coordinator-news-rumors-resume-coaching-history-broncos
Please, no.
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Please, no.
Why? Not saying good or bad. He gets rave reviews and the Broncos secondary had two pro bowlers and their defense went from hot trash to good by the end of the year.
But I get the hesitation
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Why? Not saying good or bad. He gets rave reviews and the Broncos secondary had two pro bowlers and their defense went from hot trash to good by the end of the year.
But I get the hesitation
His resume is incredibly thin. Surtain was the 9th overall pick, so hardly magic him becoming pro bowl level. Simmons was pro bowl in ‘20 prior to Parker’s arrival.
The Broncos were 29th overall defense, 22nd passing defense, and 27th scoring defense this past season. The Patriots are the only other team who’s given him an interview.
There are so many better qualified candidates than a guy who was our quality control coach 4 years ago.
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Myth of Denver defensive improvement late season too. Lit up by Detroit for 42 Dec 16 and followed up by allowing Bailey Zappe a 117 rating a week later.
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Honestly I’m more worried about style and scheme than the length of the resume here.
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His resume is incredibly thin. Surtain was the 9th overall pick, so hardly magic him becoming pro bowl level. Simmons was pro bowl in ‘20 prior to Parker’s arrival.
The Broncos were 29th overall defense, 22nd passing defense, and 27th scoring defense this past season. The Patriots are the only other team who’s given him an interview.
There are so many better qualified candidates than a guy who was our quality control coach 4 years ago.
Who are your candidates? Not saying you’re wrong about Parker. He could be a great DC, he could be a bust.
I think coordinator hires are going to younger and younger guys across the board. My first choice would still be Ejiro Evero, though I’m not sure he’ll be an option
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Ejiro is far and away my first choice among those that have been DCs before. Really don't want a retread former head coach.
I'd love to see them look at the assistants who can prove to be adaptable. There are some former Packer players who might be in that mold - Marquand Manuel & Al Harris. Harris gets knocked down because of the playoff game, but the reality is that the Packers have had the answers for Dan Quinns system. How Harris differentiates would be key. Hewitt from Baltimores staff is another.
I would have also gone after Umich DC Minter, but reality is he was probably always tied to Harbaugh
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Ejiro is far and away my first choice among those that have been DCs before. Really don't want a retread former head coach.
I'd love to see them look at the assistants who can prove to be adaptable. There are some former Packer players who might be in that mold - Marquand Manuel & Al Harris. Harris gets knocked down because of the playoff game, but the reality is that the Packers have had the answers for Dan Quinns system. How Harris differentiates would be key. Hewitt from Baltimores staff is another.
I would have also gone after Umich DC Minter, but reality is he was probably always tied to Harbaugh
Agree on Hewitt
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Who are your candidates? Not saying you’re wrong about Parker. He could be a great DC, he could be a bust.
I think coordinator hires are going to younger and younger guys across the board. My first choice would still be Ejiro Evero, though I’m not sure he’ll be an option
Martindale would be my top choice, but concern with him is he hasn’t left his last two jobs on very good terms. Seems like he’s difficult to manage. But he can coach aggressive defenses.
The Buffalo assistant they interviewed seems intriguing. Buffalo had a lot of injuries this year on that side of the ball and were still very competitive. McDermott isn’t a great head coach, but is a solid defensive coach that he’s learned from.
Evero would probably be fine too.
Not saying Parker can’t do it but why take such a big gamble when they’re going to be serious contenders next year? It’s time they get this hire right finally.
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Martindale would be my top choice, but concern with him is he hasn’t left his last two jobs on very good terms. Seems like he’s difficult to manage. But he can coach aggressive defenses.
The Buffalo assistant they interviewed seems intriguing. Buffalo had a lot of injuries this year on that side of the ball and were still very competitive. McDermott isn’t a great head coach, but is a solid defensive coach that he’s learned from.
Evero would probably be fine too.
Not saying Parker can’t do it but why take such a big gamble when they’re going to be serious contenders next year? It’s time they get this hire right finally.
Evero said no I believe. BB from Buffalo would be my first pick, but everyone raves about Christian Parker as well. Watch an interview or two with the guy and I think you're mind might be changed.
As for Wink? Nah, no thanks.
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Packers need serious help at the interior line positions, and can afford to dump some expensive guys. Bahk is 100% gone, and I wouldn't be surprised if they move on from Devondre and Preston Smith.
Based on some of these grades the Packers are actually kinda loaded at the edge.
Also, it should come as a surprise to no one that Aaron Jones is the Packers best player. When he was out the offense sputtered and they lost games. With him, they're a much more dynamic team.
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Evero said no I believe. BB from Buffalo would be my first pick, but everyone raves about Christian Parker as well. Watch an interview or two with the guy and I think you're mind might be changed.
As for Wink? Nah, no thanks.
I really have no interest in who’s “raving” about him. Especially publicly. Save it. Plenty raved about Adrian Griffin.
If Parker is so great, why has only one other team given him an interview?
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I really have no interest in who’s “raving” about him. Especially publicly. Save it. Plenty raved about Adrian Griffin.
If Parker is so great, why has only one other team given him an interview?
So what are you basing your evaluation of Christian Parker on? Your feelings? His age?
If his peers say he is the real deal and his players love playing for him... what's the issue?
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I really have no interest in who’s “raving” about him. Especially publicly. Save it. Plenty raved about Adrian Griffin.
If Parker is so great, why has only one other team given him an interview?
Age.
Also, people weren't raving about Griffin. He had numerous interviews over the years and no one else hired him.
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Evero said no I believe.
The Panthers are not letting Evero interview for other DC jobs. They have that right, because those are considered lateral moves.
They have let him interview for a couple of head-coach openings, and interviewed him for their own opening before hiring Canales.
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jim leonard
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jim leonard
Yeah, need to get the guy who cut his teeth dominating the high-powered offenses of the Big Ten West
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Yeah it looks like there is no interest by the Packers. Leonhard has his opportunity and turned it down.
And maybe he’s not interested either.
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The Panthers are not letting Evero interview for other DC jobs. They have that right, because those are considered lateral moves.
They have let him interview for a couple of head-coach openings, and interviewed him for their own opening before hiring Canales.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/29/ejiro-evero-could-still-be-in-play-for-packers-as-defensive-coordinator-candidate/?taid=65b82dfbde625d00014abcef&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/29/ejiro-evero-could-still-be-in-play-for-packers-as-defensive-coordinator-candidate/?taid=65b82dfbde625d00014abcef&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
Not a single word in the article says that he is available.
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Jeff Hafley it is. Huh
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Jeff Hafley it is. Huh
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(https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/media/larry-david-confused-gif.101047/full)
Out of left field hire. Likes to play press coverage, so, I’m sure that’ll make plenty of people happy
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Looks like he was DB coach when Saleh was DC in SF. That's intriguing at least.
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Looks like he was DB coach when Saleh was DC in SF. That's intriguing at least.
Bruce Feldman is raving about him which means he gives Feldman insider info. Did write an article about how he improved the tackling practices at Ohio State and lord knows the Packers sucked at tackling
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Out of left field hire. Likes to play press coverage, so, I’m sure that’ll make plenty of people happy
He also never went 0-16 so that’s promising.
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I mean who knows if this is a good hire. Will wait and see.
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I mean who knows if this is a good hire. Will wait and see.
I think he should be fired
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I think he should be fired
Don't wait to jump on the bandwagon. I can respect that.
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Don't hate it...isn't a nepotism hire so i guess that's good
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Impressed he was retained by Shanahan when he got the Niners job. Also, two years under Saleh and co- defensive coordinator at tOSU. It looks like he’s been part of successful defenses wherever he’s been. A lot of NFL and high level college experience. He looks ready for this step up and that he’s earned his chance.
Also will be completely schematically different than Barry. Loves playing man coverage. No more DB’s playing 7 yards off on 3rd and 4.
He seems like a winner. I think LaFleur did well. Choice is surprising only because I think literally no one had him as a potential candidate, no one apparently knew he was interviewing, etc.
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He also never went 0-16 so that’s promising.
;D
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Don't hate it...isn't a nepotism hire so i guess that's good
We sure about that? Per ESPN:
"[Hafley's] a longtime friend of LaFleur's and longtime admirer of the Packers franchise...While LaFleur and Hafley have never directly worked together, they have some mutual connections. Hafley was the Browns' defensive backs coach in 2014-15 under then-head coach Mike Pettine, who was LaFleur's first defensive coordinator in Green Bay (2019-20). Hafley also worked for 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, one of LaFleur's mentors."
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429573/sources-packers-hire-boston-college-jeff-hafley-dc
Compatibility isn't necessarily a bad thing. But we heard plenty about how LaFleur and Barry were good buddies. You just hope he's not prioritizing personality over scheme in his hiring process.
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We sure about that? Per ESPN:
"[Hafley's] a longtime friend of LaFleur's and longtime admirer of the Packers franchise...While LaFleur and Hafley have never directly worked together, they have some mutual connections. Hafley was the Browns' defensive backs coach in 2014-15 under then-head coach Mike Pettine, who was LaFleur's first defensive coordinator in Green Bay (2019-20). Hafley also worked for 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan, one of LaFleur's mentors."
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429573/sources-packers-hire-boston-college-jeff-hafley-dc
Compatibility isn't necessarily a bad thing. But we heard plenty about how LaFleur and Barry were good buddies. You just hope he's not prioritizing personality over scheme in his hiring process.
Yea, I think it's fair to say Lafleur does not cast a very wide net.
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Do most coaches?
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brian-gutekunst-were-really-excited-to-build-around-jordan-love
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Packers hire Anthony Campanile as new LBs coach. Was in Miami prior. Campanile interviewed for the Giants DC job this off-season
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Congrats to Julius Peppers. Well earned Hall of Fame
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/09/former-packers-edge-rusher-julius-peppers-elected-to-pro-football-hall-of-fame-on-first-ballot/
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It will be interesting to see how moving to a four man defensive line will affect the Packers draft. IMO, I don’t think it will affect things like it did when Capers was hired and they drafted Raji and traded up for Clay in the 1st round.
I think the bodies are in place for a 4-3 or 4-2(when in nickel).
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It will be interesting to see how moving to a four man defensive line will affect the Packers draft. IMO, I don’t think it will affect things like it did when Capers was hired and they drafted Raji and traded up for Clay in the 1st round.
I think the bodies are in place for a 4-3 or 4-2(when in nickel).
The line looms better than it has in a long time. I think Wyatt and Brooks work better in a single gap scheme, and Wooden isn't as much a tweener.
The profile of player you're looking for at linebacker changes but it was a big need regardless of coordinator and scheme
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Congrats to Julius Peppers. Well earned Hall of Fame
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/09/former-packers-edge-rusher-julius-peppers-elected-to-pro-football-hall-of-fame-on-first-ballot/
He was such a freak athlete. Missed like 6 games his entire career. Great player and was still very good on the Pack. Well deserved for him.
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He was such a freak athlete. Missed like 6 games his entire career. Great player and was still very good on the Pack. Well deserved for him.
Solid basketball player, too.
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Solid basketball player, too.
Mediocre TE
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Nm
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/19/packers-hiring-49ers-aaron-hill-as-new-strength-and-conditioning-coach/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/22/pff-names-wr-dontayvion-wicks-as-packers-secret-superstar/?taid=65d7ee1b3648f2000153af5f&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/01/packers-not-expected-to-re-sign-free-agent-rb-a-j-dillon/
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/01/packers-not-expected-to-re-sign-free-agent-rb-a-j-dillon/
Nor should they. He had a great opportunity last year and did nothing with it. Move on and find an upgrade.
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Nor should they. He had a great opportunity last year and did nothing with it. Move on and find an upgrade.
Eh, if they can get him real cheap they should. Knows the offense, blocks his ass off, etc. There is a glut of RBs available so the amount he'll be able to command should be small.
So, for the right price I'm fine with him being RB3
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Eh, if they can get him real cheap they should. Knows the offense, blocks his ass off, etc. There is a glut of RBs available so the amount he'll be able to command should be small.
So, for the right price I'm fine with him being RB3
He's going to have a chance to be RB2 or 1B. Let him walk - there are plenty of guys that fit his mold in the draft that you get in the 4th or later.
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He's going to have a chance to be RB2 or 1B. Let him walk - there are plenty of guys that fit his mold in the draft that you get in the 4th or later.
He will not be a RB1 anywhere. His legs are behind him, and there are many other available backs on the FA market.
Honestly, wouldn't be surprised to see him get a vet min
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Eh, if they can get him real cheap they should. Knows the offense, blocks his ass off, etc. There is a glut of RBs available so the amount he'll be able to command should be small.
So, for the right price I'm fine with him being RB3
Rb3 means sometimes not even active on game day and when active, role is almost entirely on special teams. He’s not going to settle for that role, nor is there a “right price” he and team would anywhere near agree to. The price of that role is about league minimum and little to no signing bonus. That’s a role for a rookie or very young player who’s either a special teams dynamo and/or a guy you think can develop into an expanded role as RB.
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He will not be a RB1 anywhere. His legs are behind him, and there are many other available backs on the FA market.
Honestly, wouldn't be surprised to see him get a vet min
Still wouldn't do it if I'm GB. Get 4 years of a rookie like Allen or Estime in the middle rounds
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Crazy day for Packers
Release Aaron Jones
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-announce-release-of-rb-aaron-jones-today-is-a-tough-day-for-the-packers/
Sign Josh Jacobs
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-expected-to-sign-ex-raiders-rb-josh-jacobs
As expected release Bakhtiari
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-announce-release-of-lt-david-bakhtiari-one-of-the-best-linemen-in-the-history-of-the-packers/
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Crazy day for Packers
Release Aaron Jones
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-announce-release-of-rb-aaron-jones-today-is-a-tough-day-for-the-packers/
Sign Josh Jacobs
https://www.nfl.com/news/packers-expected-to-sign-ex-raiders-rb-josh-jacobs
As expected release Bakhtiari
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-announce-release-of-lt-david-bakhtiari-one-of-the-best-linemen-in-the-history-of-the-packers/
Everyone knows all of this. Maybe try having an original thought instead of just being a copy boy for AP.
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Everyone knows all of this. Maybe try having an original thought instead of just being a copy boy for AP.
And he’s missing they signed Xavier McKinney
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Huh, hey?
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Wow, without Aaron Jones, no way they are in the playoffs last season.
As dumb as releasing Davante Adams?
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Definitely fills a need for The Packers.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-to-sign-safety-xavier-mckinney-to-4-year-68m-deal/
Still doesn't make up for release Aaron Jones . Heart and Soul of the team.
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Wow, without Aaron Jones, no way they are in the playoffs last season.
As dumb as releasing Davante Adams?
They didn’t release Davante Adams
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Definitely fills a need for The Packers.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-to-sign-safety-xavier-mckinney-to-4-year-68m-deal/
Still doesn't make up for release Aaron Jones . Heart and Soul of the team.
Remember when you said they should trade Love and Carlson was the best player on the team?
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Wow, without Aaron Jones, no way they are in the playoffs last season.
As dumb as releasing Davante Adams?
lol
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Definitely fills a need for The Packers.
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/packers-to-sign-safety-xavier-mckinney-to-4-year-68m-deal/
Still doesn't make up for release Aaron Jones . Heart and Soul of the team.
If a 30 year old RB is the heart and soul of your team, you won't be good for very long.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/11/aaron-jones-declined-significant-pay-cut-from-packers-before-being-released/?taid=65f05fff26cd00000160703e&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter
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Everyone knows all of this. Maybe try having an original thought instead of just being a copy boy for AP.
Yo man, have a drink or something.
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Yo man, have a drink or something.
I appreciate your opinion of my post. Doesn’t matter if you agree or disagree with me. Opinion - not press releases - is the backbone of an Internet forum.
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Excellent move by The Packers. Nixon=Difference Maker
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/12/packers-re-signing-cb-kr-keisean-nixon-on-3-year-deal/
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Wow first Aaron Jones now De’Vondre
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/13/packers-announce-release-of-lb-devondre-campbell-tremendous-leader-and-true-pro/
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Wow first Aaron Jones now De’Vondre
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/13/packers-announce-release-of-lb-devondre-campbell-tremendous-leader-and-true-pro/
He was terrible last year. Then again, you wanted to trade Jordan Love and thought Anders Carlson was the best player on the team, so your judgment on these matters is worse than your judgment on college basketball
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Wow first Aaron Jones now De’Vondre
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/13/packers-announce-release-of-lb-devondre-campbell-tremendous-leader-and-true-pro/
This was expected. He is old and washed.
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Low risk deal with Dillon
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/15/re-signing-aj-dillon-doesnt-alter-packers-plans-at-rb-in-draft/
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Sounds like the Packers are adding a third kicker. Greg Joseph might be signing a deal.
Weird move since Herm told us Carlson was the best player on the team.
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Sounds like the Packers are adding a third kicker. Greg Joseph might be signing a deal.
Weird move since Herm told us Carlson was the best player on the team.
Maybe he's being signed as a specialist for extra points and the gimme kicks within 40 yards
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City of Green Bay versus the Packers is certainly interesting from both perspectives. I can see where the Mayor/city government feels like Lambeau is tapped out on revenue and it has to be used for more than just Packer football, and I can certainly understand the Packers side of things.
Still 9 years on the lease, but will be interesting to see what type of posturing the Packers do.
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City of Green Bay versus the Packers is certainly interesting from both perspectives. I can see where the Mayor/city government feels like Lambeau is tapped out on revenue and it has to be used for more than just Packer football, and I can certainly understand the Packers side of things.
Still 9 years on the lease, but will be interesting to see what type of posturing the Packers do.
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/26/green-bay-packers-lambeau-field-lease#:~:text=go%20until%202043.%E2%80%9D-,The%20Packers%20paid%20%241.157M%20to%20the%20city%20for%20use,GAZETTE%2C%203%2F26).
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City of Green Bay versus the Packers is certainly interesting from both perspectives. I can see where the Mayor/city government feels like Lambeau is tapped out on revenue and it has to be used for more than just Packer football, and I can certainly understand the Packers side of things.
Still 9 years on the lease, but will be interesting to see what type of posturing the Packers do.
Honestly, the problem I have with the situation is the Packers decided to make all this public. Mark probably should have shut up. He has a year left on his deal and could have let the new guy deal with the situation.
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Honestly, the problem I have with the situation is the Packers decided to make all this public. Mark probably should have shut up. He has a year left on his deal and could have let the new guy deal with the situation.
And I really don't blame the City here. The line that the City has one of the best lease deals in sports is obviously misleading because those deals are always weighted in favor of the team.
Furthermore, all of the investment the Packers have been making in the local neighborhoods hasn't been in Green Bay. The Titletown District is in Ashwaubenon. As is the Hutson Center and the Resch Center. Obviously the City benefits from the Packers in many ways, but that doesn't mean it has to accept a terrible lease.
And the Packers cancelling $80 million worth of off-seasons projects just looks so petty.
One thing that goes unsaid here is that I know both sides are concerned about the long-term viability of the seating bowl portion of the stadium. It eventually is going to need some significant maintenance, but I don't know how you do that given schedules and the fact its an ADA nightmare.
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My pure guess is Murphy went public to put whatever public pressure he/the team can start to levy out there. I agree that I think this was a dumb play, unless the Packers long term plan is to move.
I’d be curious what the STH % is for Brown County (I have no idea). I’d be lying if I said I knew the Packers charter in and out. I would assume if the Packers wanted to move to Milwaukee, the Board of Directors would put it to a vote, and then conduct a stock sale to fund a new stadium (?).
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I agree that it was a ploy to put leverage on the City, but that's not going to work...at least for now.
But the Packers are for sure going to stay in Green Bay. Not a chance they move. The Board of Directors is mostly made up of people from the Green Bay area. And furthermore, there is zero reason for the leadership of the team to go through that nightmare. There is no owner to enrich here.
What you are seeing here is a (rightfully IMO) annoyed City of Green Bay being asked to accept less money while the team is investing heavily in projects located in the Village of Ashwaubenon. Outside of ancillary economic benefits, Green Bay gets nothing from what happens in the new Titletown District. And I would argue that Titletown is taking away weekend activity that used to occur elsewhere in the area too.
IMO they will eventually sort this out. They will figure out some compromise position, and the Packers will announce some sort of project in the City at the same time or shortly after.
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Packers thinking about drafting another QB to add to reserve pool
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/27/packers-may-add-qb-in-draft-but-remain-excited-about-sean-clifford/
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Packers Have serious Draft Capital this year
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/packers-have-11-picks-2024-nfl-draft#:~:text=GREEN%20BAY%2C%20Wis.,in%20the%20first%20three%20rounds.
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https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/13/zach-toms-future-at-rt-or-c-dictates-how-packers-approach-nfl-draft/
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Guty Press Conference Highlights
https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/22/highlights-from-brian-gutekunsts-pre-draft-press-conference/