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pbiflyer

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 19, 2022, 07:51:34 PM
The good news is Ukrainians selling US/NATO arms to the highest bidder. Always love to see it

Cite?

JWags85



jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on July 19, 2022, 09:18:51 PM
(waits for incoming Youtube video)

Keep crushing that faux-centrism, wags

JWags85

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 19, 2022, 09:59:39 PM
Keep crushing that faux-centrism, wags

Faux?  Come on man.  Take a joke.  Sorry I don't reside in a snarky democratic socialism wet dream.

jesmu84

Quote from: JWags85 on July 19, 2022, 10:16:04 PM
Faux?  Come on man.  Take a joke.  Sorry I don't reside in a snarky democratic socialism wet dream.

You should. It's warm here.

brewcity77

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 19, 2022, 10:18:17 PM
You should. It's warm here.

It's warm everywhere. Climate change, aina?

MU82

'A beacon of hope': Ukraine, Russia sign grain export deal

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-middle-east-global-trade-a2c89d94a0f8473b40a1fcde5710bda8

ISTANBUL (AP) — Russia and Ukraine signed separate agreements Friday with Turkey and the United Nations clearing the way for exporting millions of tons of desperately needed Ukrainian grain — as well as Russian grain and fertilizer — ending a wartime standoff that had threatened food security around the globe.

The deal will enable Ukraine — one of the world's key breadbaskets — to export 22 million tons of grain and other agricultural products that have been stuck in Black Sea ports due to Russia's invasion. U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres called it "a beacon of hope" for millions of hungry people who have faced huge increases in food costs.

"A deal that allows grain to leave Black Sea ports is nothing short of lifesaving for people across the world who are struggling to feed their families," said Red Cross Director-General Robert Mardini, who noted that over the past six months prices for food staples have risen 187% in Sudan, 86% in Syria, 60% in Yemen and 54% in Ethiopia.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Ukrainian Infrastructure Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov signed separate, identical deals with Guterres and Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar at a ceremony in Istanbul that was witnessed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

"Today, there is a beacon on the Black Sea," Guterres said. "A beacon of hope, a beacon of possibility, a beacon of relief in a world that needs it more than ever."

"You have overcome obstacles and put aside differences to pave the way for an initiative that will serve the common interests of all," he told the Russian and Ukrainian envoys.

Guterres described the deal as an unprecedented agreement between two parties engaged in a bloody conflict. Erdogan said he hoped the initiative would be "a new turning point that will revive hopes for peace."
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TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.


MuggsyB

So now we're "considering" sending fighter jets to Ukraine?  Hmmmmm.....the administration is no longer concerned this will start a nuclear war?

Spaniel with a Short Tail

The head of Russia's second largest oil company, who publicly disagreed with the war, dies after falling out of a hospital window. Yeah, that's plausible.

Some things just don't change.

wadesworld

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 01, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
The head of Russia's second largest oil company, who publicly disagreed with the war, dies after falling out of a hospital window. Yeah, that's plausible.

Some things just don't change.

"He may have slipped from a balcony while smoking.  No CCTV was available because cameras had been turned off for repairs."

Uh huh...

Pakuni

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 01, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
The head of Russia's second largest oil company, who publicly disagreed with the war, dies after falling out of a hospital window. Yeah, that's plausible.

Some things just don't change.

A lot of Russian oil execs dying under unusual circumstances lately.
Weird.

Maganov's sudden death comes just a few months after Alexander Subbotin, a former top Lukoil executive, was found dead in May. An investigation into his death is said to be ongoing, though Russian state media put out a number of bizarre details at the time, citing sources who said Subbotin had been found dead in a shaman's home where "voodoo rituals" were performed and that he'd been severely intoxicated.
Just a month earlier, Vladislav Avayev, the former vice president of Gazprombank, a privately-owned subsidiary of Gazprom, was found dead of a gunshot wound in Moscow, along with his wife and daughter. Investigators said they suspected a murder-suicide.
A day after Avayev's body was found, Sergei Protosenya, the former deputy chairman of gas company Novatek, was found hanging in a villa in Spain, with his wife and daughter also found dead on the premises with stab wounds. Just as in the case of Avayev, local police said their preliminary theory was murder-suicide.
In February, Gazprom executive Alexander Tyulyakov was found hanged in his St. Petersburg garage, with police saying they'd discovered a suicide note near his body. His death came just a few weeks after Gazprom Invest exec Leonid Shulman was found dead at a cottage in the Leningrad region, with law enforcement sources also describing his death as a suicide.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-russian-oil-exec-ravil-maganov-dies-in-fall-out-of-hospital-window?ref=home

Lennys Tap

Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2022, 12:48:40 PM
"He may have slipped from a balcony while smoking.  No CCTV was available because cameras had been turned off for repairs."

Uh huh...

Smoking on the balcony after being allegedly admitted for a heart attack? LOL

tower912

Smoker smoking after a heart attack?   I absolutely believe that.   I watch smokers smoke while on oxygen.   The rest is crap.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2022, 12:48:40 PM
"He may have slipped from a balcony while smoking.  No CCTV was available because cameras had been turned off for repairs."

Uh huh...

Must've been cops running the cameras.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on September 01, 2022, 01:33:07 PM
A lot of Russian oil execs dying under unusual circumstances lately.
Weird.



Just a guess, but I bet at least one (maybe more) of these guys was a US intel source.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on September 01, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
The head of Russia's second largest oil company, who publicly disagreed with the war, dies after falling out of a hospital window. Yeah, that's plausible.

Some things just don't change.
And yet you have certain people--scions of frozen dinner companies, perhaps--openly advocating that the U.S. should side with Russia.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Jockey on September 01, 2022, 06:14:30 PM
Just a guess, but I bet at least one (maybe more) of these guys was a US intel source.
Discovered in much the same way, I'm sure, as MBS knew which Saudis to round up.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

forgetful

Quote from: Jockey on September 01, 2022, 06:14:30 PM
Just a guess, but I bet at least one (maybe more) of these guys was a US intel source.

Apparently there are a decent number of US intel sources that have wound up dead lately. Covers blown. Other sources have had their identities compromised.

Lots of intel apparently not being held close to the vest.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: forgetful on September 01, 2022, 09:51:44 PM
Apparently there are a decent number of US intel sources that have wound up dead lately. Covers blown. Other sources have had their identities compromised.

Lots of intel apparently not being held close to the vest.

Captured, Killed or Compromised: C.I.A. Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants
Counterintelligence officials said in a top secret cable to all stations and bases around the world that too many of the people it recruits from other countries to spy for the U.S. are being lost.

Published Oct. 5, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/politics/cia-informants-killed-captured.html#:~:text=Captured%2C%20Killed%20or%20Compromised%3A%20C.I.A.%20Admits%20to%20Losing,the%20U.S.%20are%20being%20lost.%20Give%20this%20article
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

JWags85

Quote from: TSmith34 on September 01, 2022, 09:28:44 PM
And yet you have certain people--scions of frozen dinner companies, perhaps--openly advocating that the U.S. should side with Russia.

Marie Callender should shut her damn mouth

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