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Author Topic: The War in Ukraine  (Read 49029 times)

ZiggysFryBoy

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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #550 on: October 07, 2022, 05:16:41 PM »
Quote from: JWags85 on October 07, 2022, 11:21:19 AM

Cheering for the death of a justly and fairly elected foreign leader of a sovereign nation?  How despicable.

That's getting to being close to Rico's schtick.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #551 on: October 07, 2022, 07:20:34 PM »
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on October 07, 2022, 05:16:41 PM
That's getting to being close to Rico's schtick.

Nah. I'm fine with Putin being sent to Siberia. Not calling for his assassination, but honestly- that would not bother me one bit. My "surprise" birthday comment can be interpreted any way one chooses. I just want him gowne.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #552 on: October 08, 2022, 08:35:27 AM »
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #553 on: October 08, 2022, 09:12:15 AM »
Kerch Bridge to Crimea is down.  Russian main supply route to most of occupied Ukraine
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #554 on: October 08, 2022, 09:28:43 AM »
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 08, 2022, 09:12:15 AM
Kerch Bridge to Crimea is down.  Russian main supply route to most of occupied Ukraine

Looks like the damage will be fixed quickly but that’s a big psychological blow. 
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #555 on: October 08, 2022, 01:41:40 PM »

Intelligence announces numerous arrests of military personnel in Moscow

https://news.yahoo.com/intelligence-announces-numerous-arrests-military-144705319.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZmx5ZXJ0YWxrLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGkqB_yom8Z9Ramy21ScmVyBjiL5u8SHwbeul1a59zlIkPIOWjeqzUzMY3QkFXDHrMfeFywUKpm6EQlnFTPEoyNAIKbHSdd9YgULWaTDNpC4cYuCU-9_-ueidVXQsV0jLc5fAIVRWs4lGo8q07e2i1orS25hBDKn384y4eebjXc8

Units of the Dzerzhinsky operational division – the elite of the Russian Guard – are reported to have entered the city. They are allegedly moving towards the centre together with police units.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #556 on: October 08, 2022, 09:36:51 PM »
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #557 on: October 09, 2022, 10:25:08 AM »
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 08, 2022, 09:36:51 PM
Some quality birthday trolling.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11294211/Happy-birthday-Mr-President-Zelensky-aide-mocks-Vladimir-Putin-Marilyn-Monroe-rendition.html

That is hysterically funny!  ;D Thanks for posting.  I'm glad that I finished my coffee before seeing it or I would be soaked.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #558 on: October 10, 2022, 07:44:06 AM »
So we're cool with US taxpayer money being used to carry out ISIS style terror bombings that kill innocent civilians?
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #559 on: October 10, 2022, 07:50:00 AM »
Putin is the bad guy here.  Always has been.   Everything that is happening now is a result of his crime against the world.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #560 on: October 10, 2022, 07:52:02 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 07:44:06 AM
So we're cool with US taxpayer money being used to carry out ISIS style terror bombings that kill innocent civilians?

Yes
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #561 on: October 10, 2022, 07:56:41 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on October 10, 2022, 07:50:00 AM
Putin is the bad guy here.  Always has been.
Your childlike understanding of good and evil makes you quite easy to propagandize.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #562 on: October 10, 2022, 07:58:05 AM »
You believing Putin is the good guy shows you have already given up rational thought for the cult.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #563 on: October 10, 2022, 08:00:15 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 07:44:06 AM
So we're cool with US taxpayer money being used to carry out ISIS style terror bombings that kill innocent civilians?

I didn’t realize we were funding Putin.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #564 on: October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on October 10, 2022, 07:58:05 AM
You believing Putin is the good guy shows you have already given up rational thought for the cult.

I don't think there is a good guy in this war.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #565 on: October 10, 2022, 08:16:52 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

Which one is a greater threat to the world?
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #566 on: October 10, 2022, 08:17:52 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.


There is one that is significantly less good. And his country invaded another sovereign country.

I am interested to hear what you think we should be doing here.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #567 on: October 10, 2022, 08:19:26 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

You don't think Putin is the "bad guy"?
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #568 on: October 10, 2022, 08:26:17 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

Whoa.

Are there good guys in any war?
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #569 on: October 10, 2022, 08:41:33 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

Well, months ago one prominent American said that Putin was a "genius" and "savvy" to start this war by positioning himself to take a large chunk of the country, so there's that.

Maybe you have a point, provided that we ignore that only one of the two leaders has nukes and is threatening to use them. Oh, the fact that one is defending his country and the other is trying to add it to his country? Irrelevant!

You win. Let's go with your equivalency.



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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #570 on: October 10, 2022, 09:05:38 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

Its possible to be isolationist without steering into moral relativity oblivion. My unsolicited advice is to put your energies into exploring that.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #571 on: October 10, 2022, 09:30:05 AM »
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on October 10, 2022, 08:14:23 AM
I don't think there is a good guy in this war.

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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #572 on: October 10, 2022, 09:58:30 AM »
Quote from: MUBurrow on October 10, 2022, 09:05:38 AM
Its possible to be isolationist without steering into moral relativity oblivion. My unsolicited advice is to put your energies into exploring that.

And my unsolicited advice to you is to put your energies into exploring 20th century history, of which you are either woefully ignorant or totally dismissive of. How did isolationism work in stopping Hitler? Keep your head in the sand if that makes you happy.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #573 on: October 10, 2022, 10:37:53 AM »
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 10, 2022, 09:58:30 AM
And my unsolicited advice to you is to put your energies into exploring 20th century history, of which you are either woefully ignorant or totally dismissive of. How did isolationism work in stopping Hitler? Keep your head in the sand if that makes you happy.

Woof. Just highlighting to our friend Boozeman that a person can take the position that we should be doing less in Ukraine without also having to believe that Ukraine is just as bad as Putin's Russia.  That's not actually my personal opinion, but its one that I can engage with.  But hey, I appreciate a kneejerk proof of Godwin's law as much as the next guy, so thanks for that.
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Re: The War in Ukraine
« Reply #574 on: October 10, 2022, 11:04:46 AM »
Quote from: MUBurrow on October 10, 2022, 10:37:53 AM
Woof. Just highlighting to our friend Boozeman that a person can take the position that we should be doing less in Ukraine without also having to believe that Ukraine is just as bad as Putin's Russia.  That's not actually my personal opinion, but its one that I can engage with.  But hey, I appreciate a kneejerk proof of Godwin's law as much as the next guy, so thanks for that.

Nice try. but no cigar.
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