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warriorchick

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 20, 2022, 11:18:10 AM
Scoop loses its crap over most things.  It's not really an indicator of rational behavior.

This. If our standard for appropriate coach behavior is the way Scoopers act, then God help us all.
Have some patience, FFS.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Elonsmusk on June 20, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
End of the day if MU finished the season as Texas A&M did, Scoop would have been in complete and total meltdown over not being selected.  It's odd that an end of season tournament to decide the National Champion discounts and no longer factors how a team finishes the year, yet assings value to who/how they schedule during non-con at the beginning of the year. 

Scoopers whined about the end of season meltdowns under Wojo, and how we limped to the finish last year - all of which led to getting blown out in Round1 of the NCAA.  Imagine how Scoop would feel if we went on an end of season run like A&M did and you see a team like Rutgers limp in losing 4 of their last 6 and having losses against 103, 323, and 185 teams during Non-Con.

Elon,  I understand where you are coming from.  Many here would argue inclusion like Buzz but would still be mostly wrong. 

I think that it was a way over the top impassioned plea for being one of the last teams in the tournament and that's what makes it laughable.  Especially when he or his team could have done something more about it over the rest of the 95% of the season.

Again, I like Buzz and can see the argument his way but wow he looked stupid for writing that dissertation in many peoples eyes.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Elonsmusk on June 20, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
End of the day if MU finished the season as Texas A&M did, Scoop would have been in complete and total meltdown over not being selected.  It's odd that an end of season tournament to decide the National Champion discounts and no longer factors how a team finishes the year, yet assings value to who/how they schedule during non-con at the beginning of the year. 

Scoopers whined about the end of season meltdowns under Wojo, and how we limped to the finish last year - all of which led to getting blown out in Round1 of the NCAA.  Imagine how Scoop would feel if we went on an end of season run like A&M did and you see a team like Rutgers limp in losing 4 of their last 6 and having losses against 103, 323, and 185 teams during Non-Con.

While I have always found it odd that the selection committee doesn't weight conference tournaments as heavily as the rest of the season, it is something they have been consistent on for years.

I would have been upset but my wrath would have gone towards us for scheduling a charmin soft non-con and not winning more during the regular season. I also would have found Buzz' whining to be cringeworthy.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Elonsmusk on June 20, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
End of the day if MU finished the season as Texas A&M did, Scoop would have been in complete and total meltdown over not being selected.  It's odd that an end of season tournament to decide the National Champion discounts and no longer factors how a team finishes the year, yet assings value to who/how they schedule during non-con at the beginning of the year. 

Scoopers whined about the end of season meltdowns under Wojo, and how we limped to the finish last year - all of which led to getting blown out in Round1 of the NCAA.  Imagine how Scoop would feel if we went on an end of season run like A&M did and you see a team like Rutgers limp in losing 4 of their last 6 and having losses against 103, 323, and 185 teams during Non-Con.

I've explained it in the past, but the "last 10 games" metric is dumb and should not be included. It doesn't matter how you finish because you cannot fairly measure that against everyone else. It is not and should not be part of the discussion. The Selection Committee gets that part right.

And how Scoop feels is irrelevant. We're biased fans. I was biased in Buzz's favor when he was here. Now that I've seen him roll out the same schtick and charade elsewhere, it gets a bit tiring. And this is the height of tiring.

Regardless, this isn't about personal opinions of Buzz, this isn't about if Rutgers deserved to be in ahead of TAMU (they didn't, but SMU should've been in ahead of both of them), and it isn't about the selection criteria. It's about Buzz being a whiner. It's about him not understanding the process or criteria of NCAA selection (probably not a good quality for a NCAA head coach).

Buzz came up short because his team wasn't good enough in conference play (8 game losing streak) to overcome his piss-poor scheduling (8 buy games) in non-conference play. And rather than own up to his responsibility for that (it is 100% his fault, he's been doing this same BS scheduling for years) he tries to pawn it off on someone else.

Compare A&M's non-con schedule to our own:

  • Texas A&M: 13 games, 5 high major, , 3 top-100 NET, 8 buy games
  • Marquette: 11 games, 6 high major, 6 top-100 NET, 4 buy games
We played more high-majors and more top teams despite playing fewer overall games. Maybe instead of 8 buy games, he should've called other high-majors, or even reached out to a Loyola-Chicago, SMU, or San Francisco, all of whom would fall all over themselves to get a neutral or home-and-home with TAMU. But Buzz doesn't schedule like that. He has always scheduled like a coward. I don't know why, but I do know that the reason his team was in position to be left out is not because of what they did do, but because of what they didn't do, both on the phones in April and on the court from November through February.

IrwinFletcher

Buzz now making some changes.  They have scheduled a home-and-home with the DePaul Blue Demons.

jfp61

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on June 20, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Buzz now making some changes.  They have scheduled a home-and-home with the DePaul Blue Demons.

I see no changes   


( wake up in the morning and I ask myself)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on June 20, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Buzz now making some changes.  They have scheduled a home-and-home with the DePaul Blue Demons.
It takes a lot of guts to schedule The Sleeping Giant.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WhiteTrash on June 20, 2022, 07:44:33 PM
It takes a lot of guts to schedule The Sleeping Giant.

They beat us pretty much every year - in the mid to recent past anyway.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 20, 2022, 08:22:20 PM
They beat us pretty much every year - in the mid to recent past anyway.

Thanks for the reality check Lenny. Do you play the role of wet blanket off scoop as well?

The Sultan

Quote from: Lennys Tap on June 20, 2022, 08:22:20 PM
They beat us pretty much every year - in the mid to recent past anyway.


Lol. Leave it to Lenny's to defend Buzz for scheduling DePaul...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on June 20, 2022, 01:38:25 PM
Buzz now making some changes.  They have scheduled a home-and-home with the DePaul Blue Demons.

Buzz hunting those Quad 3 wins.

MU82

Quote from: Elonsmusk on June 20, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
Without protest there is no change.  Buzz was standing up for what he believed in, for what he felt was wrong, for future change.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on June 20, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
End of the day if MU finished the season as Texas A&M did, Scoop would have been in complete and total meltdown over not being selected.  It's odd that an end of season tournament to decide the National Champion discounts and no longer factors how a team finishes the year, yet assings value to who/how they schedule during non-con at the beginning of the year. 

Scoopers whined about the end of season meltdowns under Wojo, and how we limped to the finish last year - all of which led to getting blown out in Round1 of the NCAA.  Imagine how Scoop would feel if we went on an end of season run like A&M did and you see a team like Rutgers limp in losing 4 of their last 6 and having losses against 103, 323, and 185 teams during Non-Con.

I know one Scooper who whined so much about how horrible Buzz was during the 2013-14 season that he received a long Scoopcation.

Not sure why you give 2 shytes about TAMU's program -- and a coach you ripped mercilessly for most of a year ... but it was Buzz's fault, and Buzz's fault alone, that TAMU didn't make the tournament last season.

Win another game or 2 and/or don't schedule like a low-major, and you make the tourney. Period. Stop the effen whining.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on June 20, 2022, 11:54:18 PM
I know one Scooper who whined so much about how horrible Buzz was during the 2013-14 season that he received a long Scoopcation.

Not sure why you give 2 shytes about TAMU's program -- and a coach you ripped mercilessly for most of a year ... but it was Buzz's fault, and Buzz's fault alone, that TAMU didn't make the tournament last season.

Win another game or 2 and/or don't schedule like a low-major, and you make the tourney. Period. Stop the effen whining.
Shouldn't this guy have the final say?
https://kenpom.com/

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jfp61 on June 20, 2022, 02:06:13 PM
I see no changes   


( wake up in the morning and I ask myself)

Is life worth living, should I blast myself?

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"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

WhiteTrash


Viper

Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 08, 2022, 07:04:35 AM
He was a very good to great NBA player. This could be a sneaky good hire. I like it for LIU.
great at DePaul. Not a great nba player, however, but did play in 3 decades for 9 teams averaging 13/7. Should stir the pot in NYC recruiting.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Viper on July 08, 2022, 07:47:53 AM
great at DePaul. Not a great nba player, however, but did play in 3 decades for 9 teams averaging 13/7. Should stir the pot in NYC recruiting.

They'll probably be better than St. John's
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TallTitan34


TallTitan34

Assuming the Texas job opens up, we could have some big changes coming.

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MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Lens

Chris Beard once lit up his walk ons for dunking.  Dude sucks.  Buzz to Texas. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Lennys Tap

Beard is a really, really good coach but he's wound awfully tight. Sounds like a man in serious need of help. Prayers (and maybe an order of protection) for his family.

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