2022-2023 NFL Season

[Lennys Tap]

I guess if you tighten the definition enough, you will eventually be right.

But if you Google "best running quarterbacks in NFL history," Steve Young is on that list.

Steve Young was a really good runner, as his 5.9 yards per carry, 4,239 career rushing yards and 43 rushing TDs attest. But he ran infrequently and only averaged 25.1 rushing yards per game.

Conclusion: so great runner, even better passer. In his era, he was certainly a "running QB". By today's standards? He's not.

[The Sultan]

Steve Young was a really good runner, as his 5.9 yards per carry, 4,239 career rushing yards and 43 rushing TDs attest. But he ran infrequently and only averaged 25.1 rushing yards per game.

Conclusion: so great runner, even better passer. In his era, he was certainly a "running QB". By today's standards? He's not.

Well then if we are only going by "today's standards," it makes Jockey's statement rather meaningless.

[Dish]

Man, this is a rough scene in Cincy. Prayers up for Hamlin, damn.

[tower912]

No bueno.

[CreightonWarrior]

CPR was applied. The reactions from players was surreal.

[Uncle Rico]

I don't know how anyone on that field can be asked to continue after witnessing that.  Those poor players and coaches

[Goose]

A heartbreaking moment in sports. At a loss of words.

[Dish]

Yeah, exactly what Rico said. How the hell do you keep playing?

[MuggsyB]

Wow....just turned it on.  Did he just collapse?  Awful.

[tower912]

Last time I saw CPR on the field was Reggie Brown  for the Lions in 1997.   I saw it on a basketball court during a G league game about 4 years ago.   Done it a couple hundred times.

Rapid CPR and application of an AED is his best hope.

[Dish]

A real concern is with the loss of focus/emotion, someone else gets hurt.

[wadesworld]

Last time I saw CPR on the field was Reggie Brown  for the Lions in 1997.   I saw it on a basketball court during a G league game about 4 years ago.   Done it a couple hundred times.

Rapid CPR and application of an AED is his best hope.

Someone collapsed in a group I was playing pickup basketball with maybe 4 or so years ago now. Got the AED hooked up, did compressions, came to after the 2nd shock. Didn't know why he had people standing over him. Ended up having multiple bypass surgery. Was back playing a year later. One of the most traumatic things I've ever witnessed. We obviously stopped playing for the rest of that night. Don't think I got any sleep.

[MuggsyB]

I can't imagine they'll play this game tonight. 

[Dish]

Just call it a tie.

[Uncle Rico]

Last time I saw CPR on the field was Reggie Brown  for the Lions in 1997.   I saw it on a basketball court during a G league game about 4 years ago.   Done it a couple hundred times.

Rapid CPR and application of an AED is his best hope.

That was an impactful blow to the chest he took.  The collapse was so scary.  Think the NFL has to officially cancel the game and am sure they will shortly

[MuggsyB]

That was an impactful blow to the chest he took.  The collapse was so scary.  Think the NFL has to officially cancel the game and am sure they will shortly

Wow.  That was truly terrifying.  Horrible. 

[tower912]

The fact that it was a blow to the chest (we think), along with his youth and conditioning, is the best reason for hope.   

Prayers up.

[fjm]

Impactful blow to the chest like that.

As a multi-year Emergency medical professional. My first concern with how he went down, and seeing similar events... I'm really worried about his aorta and carotid arteries. Ie: rupture, dissection.

A sudden stop of blood flow to the brain heart and lungs will knock you out like that.

[tower912]

Yes, the ruptured aorta is the big fear.

[wadesworld]

Twitter reporting he "has a pulse but is not breathing on his own."

[Dish]

Read on Twitter, he has a pulse, but not breathing on his own, for what it's worth.

[nyg]

Impactful blow to the chest like that.

As a multi-year Emergency medical professional. My first concern with how he went down, and seeing similar events... I'm really worried about his aorta and carotid arteries. Ie: rupture, dissection.

A sudden stop of blood flow to the brain heart and lungs will knock you out like that.

Agree. Hopefully not aortic in nature, he would probably not make it.

CPR and shocking not good, especially that length of time without transport.

CPR and shocking in front of teammates is just a mental issue that will last forever in their memories.
No way this game goes on.

[tower912]

Friends, don't get hung up on twitter,  please.    An ounce of patience for something official.

[Dish]

Friends, don't get hung up on twitter,  please.    An ounce of patience for something official.

I mean, it's all over the place on that platform.

[Uncle Rico]

Friends, don't get hung up on twitter,  please.    An ounce of patience for something official.

Correct.  Like all situations, misinformation flows quickly on social media