2022-2023 NFL Season

[Dish]

I made the comment about Fields and with context at the time I said it, the Bears were in a 5 game stretch where their offense was third in the league for offensive points scored. Fields was the fourth highest rated QB in the NFL during that stretch and clearly at that time progressing. He is/was the youngest and most athletic QB in the division, and I made the comment that I'd remove contract status, but if we're going full throttle here, obviously Fields currently has the best contract. And the rest of the division QB's are...ok? It's funny because the now #1 QB in the division (Goff) is the least likely to be back with his team next year. Not to get lost in this Packers run, but Rodgers statistically is meh, 25th in yards per attempt, interceptions way up, they're winning with him more than because of him. Cousins is Cousins, if you like him over the other 3 QB's, cool?

I still think the Packers will be fine and they'll win the North 😉

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Justin Fields is definitely the best wildcat QB in the NFL.  Can't imagine he'll have a long career given the number of hits he's taking.

[Jockey]

I've said it here before - a running QB has never won a SB.

[WhiteTrash]

Justin Fields is definitely the best wildcat QB in the NFL.

That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee.

It is clear he is making progress. We he continue to do so? I don't think there is reason to believe he will not. I'd feel better moving forward with him as opposed to Jones with the Giants. But I'd feel better with about 10 other QBs than Fields.

[The Sultan]

I've said it here before - a running QB has never won a SB.

And you were wrong before. Steve Young is widely considered one of the best running QBs in NFL history.

[tower912]

Goff will be back.   

[MUBurrow]

I've said it here before - a running QB has never won a SB.

Do you consider Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Lamar Jackson the "running QBs" in this year's playoffs?

[Dish]

Goff will be back.

If I had to guess, I'd guess he'd be back, but by no means financially is it a slam dunk. His restructuring was set up to allow Detroit to walk away fairly cleanly after 2022. They could draft a QB at 4, cut Goff, and net $13.5 million in cap space in 2023 and also frees up $20 million in 2024.

[tower912]

Detroit has plenty of cap space.    5 picks in the top 80.   He is one of the few players on the roster with a lot of playoff experience.    And, when the rest of the offensive skill players have been healthy, he has been very good.    Every one is raving about Ben Johnson as the offensive coordinator.     Goff sat down with him as soon as he got the job and they put together the offense together, based on how Goff sees the game and what he likes to do.   He is no longer seen as the bridge quarterback.    And since, regardless of what happens against GB, Detroit looks to be a threat in 23-24, I cannot see them casting him aside for a rookie.    And I don't think they can do better for less in the FA market.   

He cannot put a team on his back and will them to victory.    And I have my doubts about him in cold weather after the Carolina game.  But compared to the alternatives out there, or sacrificing next season to bring in a rookie, I think Goff returns. 

[Jockey]

And you were wrong before. Steve Young is widely considered one of the best running QBs in NFL history.

Young was not a running QB. He was a passer who ran when he needed to. To put him in the same category as Fields, Jackson, or Vick is just silly. It's like calling Aaron Rodgers. Running QBs.

[tower912]

Semantics.

[Dish]

One thing the Lions can do is really take advantage of the 2024 draft (Williams, Maye). Depending on how things shake out, if the Colts or Panthers wanted to trade up, and you can extract a 2024 1st & 2nd (or 3rd) as part of trading down this year, that's a lot of ammo for what should be a really good top of the 2024 draft.

[The Sultan]

Young was not a running QB. He was a passer who ran when he needed to. To put him in the same category as Fields, Jackson, or Vick is just silly. It's like calling Aaron Rodgers. Running QBs.

I guess if you tighten the definition enough, you will eventually be right.

But if you Google "best running quarterbacks in NFL history," Steve Young is on that list.

[wadesworld]

Packers/Lions game flexed to SNF.

[The Sultan]

Well I was wrong about Packers not being on Sunday night. If I'm Seattle, I am pissed. If they win, Detroit has lost a bunch of motivation.

[WhiteTrash]

Well I was wrong about Packers not being on Sunday night. If I'm Seattle, I am pissed. If they win, Detroit has lost a bunch of motivation.

Money vs competitive fairness? Money wins every time in every sport, pro or college.

[Uncle Rico]

Well I was wrong about Packers not being on Sunday night. If I'm Seattle, I am pissed. If they win, Detroit has lost a bunch of motivation.

Maybe.  Keeping GB out of the playoffs should be a lot of motivation for a team preaching culture

[tower912]

Lions are pushing the 'AR disrespected us' schtick.   

https://www.mlive.com/lions/2023/01/lions-irked-by-aaron-rodgers-smack-talk-heading-into-titanic-finale-vs-packers.html

[The Sultan]

Maybe.  Keeping GB out of the playoffs should be a lot of motivation for a team preaching culture

They'd rather make the playoffs.

[Uncle Rico]

They'd rather make the playoffs.

Gotta win either way.  You could be right.  They could come out flat and dejected, wouldn't be a terrible surprise

[MU82]

In recent seasons the NFL has scheduled games like those two in the same time slot, citing competitive equality. Oh well.

[The Sultan]

I guess the only other option would have been Ravens and Bengals playing for a division title if Cincinnati loses tonight. But I guess that's not as compelling.

[Jockey]

I guess if you tighten the definition enough, you will eventually be right.

But if you Google "best running quarterbacks in NFL history," Steve Young is on that list.

A lot of it is perception. In Young's best years running, I bet he didn't even average 10 yards a game more than Rodgers in his best years.

Young did have a knack for making some nice runs in big games, though, so I understand why he is considered a running QB.

[MUBurrow]

In recent seasons the NFL has scheduled games like those two in the same time slot, citing competitive equality. Oh well.

Do the Saturday night games do decent numbers compared to Sunday night? I was hoping they would have the Packers on Saturday late and the AFC South Championship on SNF. I know that would be less of a draw market wise, but it would be more fair (if the packers win and render the LA-Sea game useless who really cares). Probably more wishful thinking because going to a Saturday night game would have been *chefs kiss*

[Dish]

Jacksonville has a legit gripe with having to play Saturday. Titans will have had extended rest, the least they could have done is give the Jags standard rest.