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JWags85

Quote from: wadesworld on October 03, 2022, 09:50:33 AM
He might be!

Meh.  If you're good you're good.  Joe Burrow played behind a porous offensive line to start his career (and continues to do so) and is a stud, even after tearing his ACL.  Kyler Murray played behind a bad offensive line to start his career and is at least a solid quarterback.  Of course it helps to have an awesome offensive line.  But most teams drafting at the top (where most of the best quarterbacks will be drafted) don't have good offensive lines.  If you're a stud, you usually figure it out.

Yes, the Bears offensive line stinks and Fields has to run for his life at times.  But there are also times where he doesn't make his read when he has the opportunity, then tries to scramble, and ends up getting sacked.

Burrow wasn't great that first year.  He made some plays but he also fumbled a ton, got hammered a bunch, etc...  And that was in an offense designed to air it out.  He threw 70 more attempts in the 10 games before getting hurt than Fields has in his entire career to date.  Zac Taylor emphasized him getting comfortable in a way Nagy never did.  He made a huge leap last year, but that also was largely aided by a top 5 superstar WR who also happened to be his college running mate.  He also has 2 other WRs arguably better than anyone Fields is throwing to plus a Pro Bowl caliber RB who is an excellent pass catcher.  Its not a knock on Burrow, I absolutely love him, just that its not like for like.

Kyler Murray also had an offense built around him running around, negating bad OL play, plus DeAndre Hopkins.

Again, its not making excuses for Fields being absolutely terrible at times.  Ive said his reads have been bad and he's clearly getting flustered.  But he's also lacking clear advantages guys like Murray and Burrow had.  The book on him isn't finished.  His OC is still a big question mark too.  We'll see what happens.

MU82

Quote of the day:

"Our team will respond. They always do."

-- Matt Rhule.

The Panthers have won a grand total of 11 games in 2 1/4 seasons under him, and they are 5-18 in games after losses.

That's some response!

BTW, supposedly Rhule's name is being linked with the Madison opening if he gets the heave-ho here. He was a good college coach, and Madison probably could do a lot worse.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 04, 2022, 11:20:37 AM
Quote of the day:

"Our team will respond. They always do."

-- Matt Rhule.

The Panthers have won a grand total of 11 games in 2 1/4 seasons under him, and they are 5-18 in games after losses.

That's some response!

BTW, supposedly Rhule's name is being linked with the Madison opening if he gets the heave-ho here. He was a good college coach, and Madison probably could do a lot worse.


Yeah, I don't think Rhule is coming to Wisconsin.  I would guess the next head coach will be...

70% - Jim Leonhard
15% - Lance Leipold
10% - Dave Aranada (who would likely not be all that interested)
5% - field
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 04, 2022, 11:34:03 AM

Yeah, I don't think Rhule is coming to Wisconsin.  I would guess the next head coach will be...

70% - Jim Leonhard
15% - Lance Leipold
10% - Dave Aranada (who would likely not be all that interested)
5% - field

Just relayed what I read in The Athletic. (Rhule continues to be linked to college openings with The Athletic's Bruce Feldman listing Rhule among possible candidates at Wisconsin. Rhule would not say whether he or his agent had been contacted about any college jobs.) I have neither any knowledge about Madison football, nor do I care about them, but I know others here do.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Sounds like Rhule's agent is going to work on a new landing spot.

The Sultan

Writer doing the writer's thing of linking candidates despite no information whatsoever that either party is interested.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 04, 2022, 11:50:20 AM
Writer doing the writer's thing of linking candidates despite no information whatsoever that either party is interested.

*Agents linking

Feldman links names from sources to help the agent/source drum up interest knowing Rhule's days are numbered
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 04, 2022, 11:50:20 AM
Writer doing the writer's thing of linking candidates despite no information whatsoever that either party is interested.

Writers are pure evil.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 04, 2022, 11:56:57 AM
*Agents linking

Feldman links names from sources to help the agent/source drum up interest knowing Rhule's days are numbered


OK, I can give you that.

Anyway, I think this has been Leonhard's job since he turned down the Packers 18 months ago.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Sultan Sultanberger on October 04, 2022, 12:07:06 PM

OK, I can give you that.

Anyway, I think this has been Leonhard's job since he turned down the Packers 18 months ago.

Yup, agree with that. 
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

I see that the guy who ran onto the field against Denver has filed a police report against Bobby Wagner.

MU82

Baker Mayfield's offense is dead last in total yardage and third-down conversion rate.

But at least Mayfield is #1 in most passes batted down -- 11 in 4 games.

Since entering the league 5 years ago, he is by far the NFL leader in passes batted.

I mean, the guy isn't 5-7, he's 6-1. QBs shorter than him -- Brees, Wilson, Murray, many others -- didn't/don't constantly get their passes batted away. One Mayfield had last week led to a game-deciding INT.

No wonder the Browns were more willing to invest in a serial sexual-assaulter.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2022, 08:30:51 AM
Baker Mayfield's offense is dead last in total yardage and third-down conversion rate.

But at least Mayfield is #1 in most passes batted down -- 11 in 4 games.

Since entering the league 5 years ago, he is by far the NFL leader in passes batted.

I mean, the guy isn't 5-7, he's 6-1. QBs shorter than him -- Brees, Wilson, Murray, many others -- didn't/don't constantly get their passes batted away. One Mayfield had last week led to a game-deciding INT.

No wonder the Browns were more willing to invest in a serial sexual-assaulter.

He still has about 50% more passing yards than Justin Fields.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Jockey on October 05, 2022, 08:54:59 PM
I see that the guy who ran onto the field against Denver has filed a police report against Bobby Wagner.

And all sensible people with legitimate interest in animal rights causes hang their heads in shame.

Jockey

Quote from: MUBurrow on October 06, 2022, 08:58:47 AM
And all sensible people with legitimate interest in animal rights causes hang their heads in shame.

Yup. I am an animal rights guy and these people embarrass the cause.

Dish

Both these teams tonight are terrible.

MUBBau


MUBurrow

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 06, 2022, 08:01:39 PM
Both these teams tonight are terrible.

They're both that completely dull version of crappy too. There's at least 4-5 teams who will probably end up with fewer wins than these two but that I'd much rather watch.

Dish

Quote from: MUBBau on October 06, 2022, 08:07:17 PM
Next week isn't any better

Difference is both teams tonight should have contended for their respective divisions.


Dish


MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2022, 10:14:51 PM
That's quite a pass with 2:13 left, eh?

What's funny is I posted this a while ago, before even his first awful interception.

MU82

It's like watching two over-the-hill, punch-drunk boxers pawing at each other.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

PGsHeroes32

Russ should be embarrassed.

And the Broncos as a franchise should be disbanded for giving a contract like that to a guy who wasnt due a contract, before he even played a game with you.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MU82

OT. Perfect.

Al Michaels is cracking me up talking about how wonderful this is gonna be.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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